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For many, tomorrow starts a long holiday weekend. Are you one of them?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:06:35 PM EST
UK only has monday, but as long term unemployed it's not my concern.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:14:25 PM EST
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Why Monday? is it a different holiday in the UK than in the rest of Europe. Tomorrow there is the unusual situation that there are two holidays - first of May is "Tag der Arbeit" (Labour day?) and Ascension, which is usually later in the year.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:18:30 PM EST
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all of our public holidays are set to be "first monday after" apart from Christmas new year and good Friday so they turn into long weekends

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:37:28 PM EST
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The Ascension Day/Whit holiday is also moved to the last Monday in May,  regardless of when it actually falls.
by Sassafras on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:27:49 PM EST
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Umm centering has occured, here and on the front page

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:13:29 PM EST
It works fine for me. maybe somebody fixed it already.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:19:40 PM EST
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When you leave the "/" out of the second "<center>", it makes the entire front page centered.  Which looks funny.  

I just fixed it.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:24:52 PM EST
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I believe this is an error Firefox corrects automatically, so Fran may not have seen it even before your correction.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:05:33 PM EST
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Maybe, because I was spending a few minutes to figure out the problem - as the / was there, and that was the first thing I was looking for.

Firefox seems to play up anyway - it often crashes or it is difficult to watch you tube. And IT guy told me it is because they are adding on a lot of beta stuff.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:09:41 PM EST
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Firefox seems to play up anyway

No, what I meant is the opposite: Firefox is so good that it displays correctly even if the HTML is bad (and you only see the error in IE or other browsers).

it often crashes or it is difficult to watch you tube

Do you have Firefox 3.0 already? That's the version with lots of beta stuff. I still use 2.0 (2.0.0.14 to be precise), it's very stable, and the only problem is YouTube not playing when a lot of videos are embedded -- but that's a combination problem of Firefox and the new version of the Flash video applets (there is a milder problem in IE, too, but page reload solves it).

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:16:15 PM EST
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DoDo:
I still use 2.0 (2.0.0.14 to be precise),
Thats the one I have too. But there are often upgrades! And I will try you tube on IE.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:19:51 PM EST
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The Firefox 2.0.0.xx upgrades are security upgrades, they shouldn't cause crashes (or if yes, I' think they would cause ones for me too). Do you have Firefox extensions (beyond someone's TribExt)?

Also, do you have YouTube viewing problems when watching it on YouTube itself, when watching any embed, or only when a lots of videos are embedded like in rg's music diaries? And wen do you have the othger crashes? (And what is your OS and basic computer parameters? ;-) )

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:34:15 PM EST
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When I go to you tube it works most of the times better. Well, firefox crashes almost every day, often more than once.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:36:43 PM EST
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What's Firefox 3 ? Why doesn't Firefox 2 offer to install it?

Because I confirm that Firefox 2 has problems with Youtube. I simply opened rg's diary this morning and it immediately crashed Firefox.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:57:18 PM EST
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Ouch!  I'm still getting the 00:02 problem intermittently--I use IE as a backup if Firefox keeps not working after closing and re-opening, though maybe there are other free browsers that could do the job?

(It could also be that Firefox is reacting particularly to the World Domination Enterprises video--if I'd found "Message for you People" it might have blown up some local sheep)

Ah!  If you click the following link you'll hear Message for you People, my favourite song by WDE--I saw them once in Southampton and--this will only make sense if you have a listen to the song--they came on stage started up, played for a minute then the guitarist stopped the band.

"Sorry," he said, twiddling his tuning keys.  "We were in Belgium last night and I think my guitar's gone out of tune."

Boom boom!

What a great song!

(Ar urgh, though, modern technology, if you don't hear Message for you People--it's a myspace page so you have to go the right-hand side and click on Message for you People--then....ah!)

I would say that this is a marmite of a song.

Message for you people

(I spent ages trying to find that track--and suddenly there it was!)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:45:29 PM EST
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That wasn't a complaint about your sound diaries, btw. I'd have recommended more of them if I'd been able to keep Firefox steady while checking them out. I know, I could open them with IE, but... so why don't I try?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:51:00 PM EST
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I'm going to try downloading the latest version via someone's link, I'll update next week's diary with my progress.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:03:30 PM EST
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It is a Firefox problem, sure. IE opens the diary without a hitch.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:55:13 PM EST
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For me, the diary opens in Firefox, too. Only the videos don't play. In IE, I can play 3-4 videos at a time, then the rest will say "We are sorry, video no more available", but if I reload the page, it works.

So it's a combination problem, maybe with a third element that makes it crash for you.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:18:24 PM EST
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It's the next version of Firefox. It is still in beta, but the last release seems quite stable. When finally released Firefox will likely prompt you to install it. In the meantime, you can get it here if you'd like. It does seem to fix some problems of Firefox 2.xxxxx, videos work well for me (no probs. with rg's diaries as far as I can tell), and it doesn't suffer memoryleaks to the same horrible extent as earlier versions.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:46:49 PM EST
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I started getting problems with adobe pdf reader after the last update. Don't know if it was the pdf update or the firefox update, though. Youtube is also still a problem (but a problem anyway on my slow laptop with its intel 'incinerator oven' celeron processor).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:22:44 PM EST
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I don't know what this is, but I am sure I have put the / in on past occasions when it didn't centre properly for other browsers. Firefox does correct for the missing /, but my feeling is that the / is not really missing.

You know, it's not a lot to believe that people can sometimes miss out a /, but I find it a lot to believe this happens so often with the same command in the same circumstances.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:54:17 PM EST
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When I go to fix a centering problem, the missing "" is always the culprit.  Maybe she has a sticky "" key? :)  It's no big deal, we all commit typo's here.  Judge not lest...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:59:56 PM EST
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It happens to other people too. Twice to me. I find that odd (not that it should happen to me, but that it should happen to different users, repeatedly).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:53:57 PM EST
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am sure I have put the / in on past occasions when it didn't centre properly for other browsers

Maybe you looked after someone else corrected. This happened once a month or two ago when I did the correction for you. (And it was just then that I checked the page's look both on Firefox and IE.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:00:00 PM EST
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Maybe there are real gnomes who live in the site and magically fix these things...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:03:59 PM EST
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Computer gnomes - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
Power-users are encouraged to sew little hats, shoes, and jerkins for them and post them through the floppy drive. Given that within the computer gnome society, it is the women who give the orders, other people have suggested leaving out tiny dildos for the gnome women to pleasure themselves with. Another recommendation has been the supplement of viagra, which would keep both the male and female gnomes otherwise occupied.

Good gracious.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:21:21 PM EST
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Worth repeating...

within the computer gnome society, it is the women who give the orders

;p

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:34:08 PM EST
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Oh, that was why I said good gracious.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:37:45 PM EST
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Well, no, I mean I look before I post...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:20:24 PM EST
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As you said back then, yet I most certainly inserted a lacking / .

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:28:43 PM EST
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As a demonstration, with apologies to Fran, I removed the / from the closing centring tag in this morning's Salon, compare appearance in Firefox and in IE.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:45:58 PM EST
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Apology accepted :-) I just compared firefox and IE and IE actually looks messed up after the Salon, whereas on firefox it looks almost okay, except for the tag line.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 10:16:49 PM EST
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I now reverted it back to normal.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 12:39:23 PM EST
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May 1968 - a watershed in French life - International Herald Tribune

NANTERRE, France: Forty years ago, students in neckties and bobby sox threw cobblestones at the police and demanded that France's sclerotic postwar system change. Today, students worried about finding jobs and losing state benefits are marching through the streets demanding that nothing change at all.

May 1968 was a watershed in French life, a holy moment of liberation for many, when youth coalesced, the workers listened and the semi-royal French government of President Charles de Gaulle took fright.

But for others, like the current president, Nicolas Sarkozy, only 13 years old at the time, May '68 represents anarchy and moral relativism, a destruction of social and patriotic values that, he has said in harsh terms, "must be liquidated."

The fierce debate about what happened 40 years ago is very French. There is even a fight about labels - the right calls May '68 "the events," while the left calls it "the movement."

While a youth revolt became general in the West - from anti-Vietnam protests in the United States to the Rolling Stones in swinging London and finally the Baader-Meinhof gang in Germany - France was where the protests of the baby-boom generation came closest to a real political revolution, with 10 million workers on strike and not just a revulsion against stifling social rules of class, education and sexual behavior.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:20:11 PM EST
The fierce debate about what happened 40 years ago is very French.

Heh. I believe our Swedish and German conservatives would disagree...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:09:09 PM EST
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Very French, no doubt because there actually is discussion, and people have points of view. In the infantilising world of the IHT's discourse, that must seem quaint.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:03:01 PM EST
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If I am a little more charitable, I think the IHT article author knows only the US and France, thus doesn't know other countries where 1968 has relevance.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:02:34 PM EST
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That's even less charitable ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:23:17 PM EST
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They did not wear bobby sox. French students do not wear bobby sox. I was there so I know. Socks, maybe, but definitely not bobbied.

Blaugustine
by Augustinatalie (endapressNOTblueyonderNOTcoNOTuk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 08:02:59 PM EST
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The genius..expecting somethinga bout the anglo-Us disease with GDP above zero but feeling more awful for the middle class, I find this gem

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/fruits-of-globalization/

"In fact, the combination of things that made the widespread consumption of bananas in America possible — railroads, steamships, refrigeration, and, not least, regime change often backed by American military might — where do you think banana republics came from? — makes containerization and the Washington Consensus look low-key by comparison."

And he is in Princeton.. my god, what a kick int he balls of the WC.... this is the kind of new look at things I love in physics and physicist.. and I find an economists doing it...Our economic narrative is living good times indeed.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:28:04 PM EST
yummy dinner: osso bucco over polenta, followed by some of the marrow on good toasted bread accompanied by a dandelion and arugula with lemon juice, olive oil and shaved parmesan.  The wine was a bit rough - would have been good for grilled or pan roasted red meat but for a braise I would have preferred something mellower.  Polenta evoked its standard reaction in me - yum, but what a pain to make; though unlike risotto, the other arm workout Italian dish it always takes less time to cook than the recipes indicate, rather than more.

Before the summer heat comes along I'll need to do my annual lasagna verde from scratch. So good, so much cooking.

by MarekNYC on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:35:33 PM EST
Here in Funland we are about to enter the twilight zone called May Day Eve.

The entire Finnish population will be kaylied in a few hours. Here just north of Helsinki, we are enjoying some red wine, wasabe peas and getting ready to fire up the embarrassingly Battleship Galactica new gas-fired barbecue. I'd never have bought it, but my vote didn't count.

Dammit - now I have a call to make the salad dressing. Byeeee!

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:43:05 PM EST
Gas barbecue's aren't really proper barbecues are they ?

Charcoal is definitely the way to go. Smoky roasted veggies on a barbie could turn me away from being a dyed-in-the-wool carnivore.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:59:44 PM EST
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that said, my sister has just donated a gas one to my parents. We'll try it, but are already thinking of converting it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:02:42 PM EST
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I offered to build a brick grill by the patio - but no. We have to go space age. Ugggh

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:06:34 PM EST
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The man who grew a finger

...It wasn't a transplant. Mr Spievak re-grew his finger tip. He used a powder - or pixie dust as he sometimes refers to it while telling his story.

Mr Speivak's brother Alan - who was working in the field of regenerative medicine - sent him the powder.

For ten days Mr Spievak put a little on his finger.

"The second time I put it on I already could see growth. Each day it was up further. Finally it closed up and was a finger.

"It took about four weeks before it was sealed."

Now he says he has "complete feeling, complete movement."

The "pixie dust" comes from the University of Pittsburgh, though in the lab Dr Stephen Badylak prefers to call it extra cellular matrix.



You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:56:25 PM EST
Now, this makes me wonder how the pixie dust affects the brain, so that it can grow back the finger?! :-D
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:16:20 PM EST
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No brain needed - entirely autonomous and self-organizing ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:35:22 PM EST
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The pixie dust? :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:08:34 PM EST
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The effects of the pixie dust in stimulating latent regeneration activity and the suppression of scar making (termination/protective) activity.

Kinda symbolic about what we need to be doing generally ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:21:03 PM EST
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I expect to hear about this soon in one of those emails signed lolabella lusciousova that worry about my length issues.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:10:20 PM EST
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Ah Veggie mock duck with mushrooms, egg fried rice and vegetable spring rolls for me tonight.

Gourmet chinese Take away urge has hit West Wales.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 12:58:23 PM EST
You have a takeaway near you ???

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:00:46 PM EST
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amazingly we have two, plus two Indians. Being a university town  we do have quite a quantity of pubs and places that do meals as students apppear averse to cooking.

I'll try and find the photo I have somewhere of the Vegetable Biriani that one provided once. possibly the most wind inducing meal of all time, the majority vegetable of choice was Sprouts. Sprout curry is not the most freindly of meals ever created.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:06:04 PM EST
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Schwartz have started doing a biryani mix which I thoroughly recommend. I used it to make a quick veggie meal for a friend and it was delicious.  I haven't seen it in Tesco or Somerfield, but it is in Sainsburys (have they dried your out yet ?)

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:32:37 PM EST
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Well our co-op never quite floods, although its carpark is a frequent boating lake. If I want Sainsburys I have to head to Swansea.  

I'll have to try that mix, as handmade ones are one place where ingredient creep does tend to get to me.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:35:51 PM EST
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For chrissake don't tell LEP!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:36:22 PM EST
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I decided not to bother with a spoon for chilli powder earlier.  I don't need one. Because I can just tip up the jar and get the right amount...

Half a jar of powder into the saucepan later, I decided not to scoop it out because it was only Sainsbury's and therefore never very hot anyway.

Diluted by two extra cans of beans and one of tomatoes, dinner is about edible.

On the plus side, I guess I've cooked for tomorrow.  And for a couple of days after that...

by Sassafras on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:59:43 PM EST
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My hair stands on end when I've eaten large ammounts of chile, i'd have loved that meal.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:26:24 PM EST
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Sounds delicious. Does all come as take away!

I am going for the first white aspargus tonight!

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:13:56 PM EST
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yes, A local businessman started the one I'm using tonight as an addition to  a firm he created that makes organic soups, pasta sauces, salads and sandwiches from local ingredients. He saw a gap in the market when a lot of chinese students arrived in town, so he found a couple of chinese chefs and employs the students as waiting staff etc. The resulting food is a cut above most chinese restaurants i've tried.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:25:18 PM EST
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Wagamama's opened in Cardiff this week. OMG!!  I can't wait to go there. I went to one in London recently, awesome food. Defininely meets the reputation.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:02:00 PM EST
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Letter from Berlin: Defusing Germany's Demographic Timebomb - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Germany's population is shrinking, with serious consequences for the country's economy and pension system. Can Family Minister Ursula von der Leyen persuade Germans to breed?

 Can Ursula von der Leyen stop Germany's population from shrinking? Pandas are famously bad at sex. In fact, they are so unwilling to breed that zoo keepers have to resort to all kinds of tricks to get them to procreate, including showing them pornographic movies to get them in the mood.

Ursula von der Leyen must feel a certain sympathy with the panda keepers. One of her main tasks as Germany's family minister is to coax reluctant Germans into having children, so that the shrinking of the country's population can be slowed or even reversed.

At the moment she has plenty of reasons to celebrate: Preliminary birth statistics for 2007 appear to show that her policies are having the desired effect.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:10:49 PM EST
I thought the Muslims and immigrants were overrunning the place. How can its population be dropping??
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:14:50 PM EST
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You're mixing it up with France.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:13:44 PM EST
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OMG-have we hit peak immigrants as well????
by Sassafras on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:38:54 PM EST
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We arer shrinking, we are shrinking, uaaargh!!!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:10:40 PM EST
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It's hard to isolate Von der Leyen's policies from the general development in Germany, which has been positive for most in the last two years. The policies themselves are not all bad, though.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:29:36 PM EST
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I feel guilty, because i rely on recreational sex, as opposed to the propagational kind.  Being 60, not sure it matters.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:50:38 PM EST
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Crazy Horse:
 Being 60, not sure it matters.

Hey, according to Ayurveda the life expectancy should be a 120 years. This would mean you are in you mid-life and prime time of your life. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:05:51 PM EST
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Strangely, i do feel exactly in mid life, it's why i accepted the hip joint most likely to last long, and why i've spent so much extra effort rebuilding my musculature, which this type of joint demands.

It's probably not in the literature, but i find having sex often to be better than anything from rehab, except perhaps the first week or two in the pool (but at that time there was no chance of having sex because of how long it took to move.)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:21:28 PM EST
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Is it safe to come out?  (looks around...)  Ok.

Hi everyone.  You might think that with all the drama in my life I don't have time for relaxing activities.  Au contraire.  

I am finally reading Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism".  Wow.  I can't put this down.  A while back we were talking about the simultaneously exciting and annoying feeling you get when you find someone has thought your brilliant thought before you (affirming you are have a great mind, but ensuring you don't get any credit for it...) like Marx, the ancient Greeks or Sartre.  I have that same feeling reading this book.  READ IT.  It's bloody brilliant.  Er.  Unfortunately, it is also making it a bit difficult to go to work these days. ((cough))  Oh well.  Like Pinochet, I too have to eat...

Last night I saw "Ia Liubliu Tebia".  Yay!  It was a movie I suspected I would love.  And I did.  That just doesn't happen enough.  It's a pretty light-hearted fim.  You could even call it a romantic comedy.  Nothing groundbreaking, artistically speaking.  But (and I didn't actually realize this) it was the first film made in Russia about homosexuality.  I'm hesitant to label it like that, because it's really just about people and love.  But still, it is an achievement they even got it made.  It's a funny and charming movie.  Reminds me of those French or Spanish romantic comedies.  

I am working on a Shoe Blog.  

And have developed a small obsession with cabbits.  I understand they do not actually exist.  They say.  But for years I've been under the impression that I am the only one who finds their cat distinctly rabbity in both appearance and behavior.  (My step-father, a gourmand, calls the poor beast "hasenpfeffer.")  Apparently not.  There are sites all over the internet.  So it must be a real phenomenon.  ;)  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:19:32 PM EST
poemless:
someone has thought your brilliant thought before you

I've not read the book, but am interested in what may be the "brilliant thought" or insight you perceive?

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:24:56 PM EST
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Pure capitalism is pure evil?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:09:58 PM EST
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I wouldn't argue against that statement.

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:31:08 PM EST
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Also the theory that a lot of suffering isn't an unfortunate side effect of an otherwise noble economic system, but that it is intentionally built into the system, and that the success of the system explicitly depends on it.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:35:34 PM EST
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I plan to read it in the near future and, hopefully, provide a critical review.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:28:57 PM EST
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Oh, you are reading again!  I am so happy!

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:31:19 PM EST
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I bought the book. I will try to take the time to read it.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:26:44 PM EST
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Hmph.  You're not really going to read it, are you?  I suppose that's not you rockin' out in the windfarm concert pic either, huh?  Neither a real Marxist nor a real Rockstar.  So disappointing...   ;)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:41:05 PM EST
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And have developed a small obsession with cabbits.  I understand they do not actually exist.  They say.  But for years I've been under the impression that I am the only one who finds their cat distinctly rabbity in both appearance and behavior.  (My step-father, a gourmand, calls the poor beast "hasenpfeffer.")  Apparently not.  There are sites all over the internet.  So it must be a real phenomenon.  ;)  
In Spain, in times of food scarcity (most recently in the long post-civil-war "autarchy" lasting into the 1950's), it is said that sometimes people (and inns) would serve cat cooked like rabbit. This was called "giving cat for hare" and the expression dar gato por liebre has passed into the Spanish language meaning "to scam (by substitution)".

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:26:14 PM EST
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My father came back from Nigeria once during a period when it was undergoing an agricultural revolution. the only thing that was coming out of this revolution for the locals was chicken. However some times he was fairly certain that what was served to him as chicken was actually cat, as there seemed to be  too many legs and the bones were too solid.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:36:34 PM EST
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Just to clarify - I'm not advocating for the stewing of my cat!  Or of eating cats at all.  (Though I will eat a rabbit.  yum.)    

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:13:19 PM EST
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I first came across this Parisian menu in one of my high school history books. I was able to google up a source for it on the net, with a bibliographic reference to boot:

In Paris in Its Splendor (1900), Eustace Reynolds-Ball gives the menu of a popular restaurant in the Latin Quarter at the beginning of January 1871, "which gives a good idea of the gastronomic straits to which the light-hearted Parisians were reduced":

  • Consommé de Cheval au millet.

  • Brochettes de foie de Chien à la maître d'hôtel.

  • Emincé de rable de Chat. Sauce mayonnaise.

  • Epaules et filets de Chien braisés. Sauce aux tomates.

  • Civet de Chat aux Champignons.

  • Côtelettes de Chien aux petits pois.

  • Salmis de Rats. Sauce Robert.

  • Gigots de chien flanqués de ratons. Sauce poivrade.

  • Begonias au jus.

  • Plum-pudding au rhum et à la Moelle de Cheval.

This happened during the siege of Paris in the Franco-Prussian war. The novel meat sources are dog (chien), cat (chat), rat (same as in English), rat pups (ratons), and horse (cheval). Begonias, of course, have neither legs nor hair. I don't think I need to translate the rest of the culinary French above. Or do I?

You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.

by Vagulus on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 09:08:19 PM EST
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Yeah, war-time substitution scams... WWII stories of horse meat, dog meat, rat meat, even human flesh. But the funniest (well, at least for me) was not food.

My elementary school afternoon class teacher (who was a real ex-proletarian) told that in the chaos before and after the final days of WWII, she had to buy new clothes, and on the black market in some village, some cheap cloth was peddled to her.

She bought it, went into some house, changed into the new clothes from her rags. Soon after, she felt her skin burn. She walked for a few minutes, but the skin burning would only get worse. Then she examined her clothes more closely: they were made of nettle...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:28:00 PM EST
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Which reminds me of Hans Christian Andersen's tale, The wild swans, where a young girl spins nettle flax to weave coats for her brothers, who have been turned into swans by their wicked step-mother.

As the executioner seized her by the hand, to lift her out of the cart, she hastily threw the eleven coats of mail over the swans, and they immediately became eleven handsome princes; but the youngest had a swan's wing, instead of an arm; for she had not been able to finish the last sleeve of the coat.


You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 09:41:34 PM EST
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Voigtlander Bessa-T 35mm film range-finder fully manual camera (with the luxury of a light meter!) and 40/1.4, 75/2.5 lenses arrived today:

Now to annoy Sam with it ...

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 01:31:34 PM EST
This is becoming borderline obsessive.

"Hello, my name's Colman and I'm a cameraholic..."

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:39:42 PM EST
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What's your obsession?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:43:05 PM EST
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Words

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:46:19 PM EST
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What's yours?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:49:06 PM EST
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Trains of thought...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:56:51 PM EST
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Don't you mean thoughts of trains....

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:05:46 PM EST
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don't ask, If he starts listing them we'll be here all night.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:49:43 PM EST
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No, no, this is a carefully considered, staged acquisition of new tools.

Which is finished for the moment, honest.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:30:20 PM EST
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Yeah, sure! that's what they always say. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:33:37 PM EST
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This is his last camera... so far!

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:44:17 PM EST
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I just realized something.  Giving a cameraholic a new baby is like giving a junkie a lifetime supply of crack cocaine!  No intervention in the world can cure him now...  ;)  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:46:51 PM EST
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you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:45:51 PM EST
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Actually this is Colman (as played by Al Pacino) contemplating a failed attempt to apply talc to a certain wriggling young Irish bottom.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 06:16:33 AM EST
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A likely story....

But I guess you've justified them as an investment. All collectors do, and with a careful eye and knowledge of the market, it is indeed a good investment.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:16:32 PM EST
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Not a collector: there's maybe one lens I've bought recently that might  appreicate in value. Well, the two cameras are out of production now, but they're not rare in any way - the one I got today is brand new.They probably won't lose much value, but I'd be very surprised to get a return on them of any consequence.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:44:20 PM EST
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Sweeeeeet.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:15:31 PM EST
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I knew you'd understand ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:51:59 PM EST
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It looks lovely!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:48:09 PM EST
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It's coming with us this weekend ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:52:41 PM EST
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Charles Bremner - Times Online - WBLG: France celebrates its little old Citroen

Since it's spring in Paris and I'm taking a few days off, let me indulge in some four-wheeled nostalgia. You see it in the picture --  the Citroen Deux Chevaux.

It's 60 years since the rustic, quirky "deudeuche" was offered to an initially unimpressed public and it's 18 years since the last of five million left the assembly line. You don't see many around any more but the intrepid little 2CV is the object of fond memory for anyone lived those decades. If you're one of them and around Paris, it's worth a visit to the show that the Cité des Sciences has just opened in homage to the little car.

In the post-war years, Italy had its Fiat 500, Germany its VW Beetle and Britain, a little later, its Mini. The Gallic motoring icon was la deudeuche, or the deux-pattes (two paws), as the two-horse car was also nicknamed.  The 2CV Expo Show offers a parade of deudeuches through the decades, from the austere, grey-only 1948 model to the retro-chic "Charleston" of the 1980s. 

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:15:09 PM EST
By the way, how did Citroën become "Unmistakeably German (made in France)"?



When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:21:21 PM EST
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Lolol, love it!!
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:24:38 PM EST
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LOL!

I saw commercials with that slogan in German some months ago, which then appeared a marketing ploy aimed to emphasize how well the cars do in German motoring club ADAC's breakdown statistics. Had no idea they are using it elsewhere, too.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:38:25 PM EST
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I should add that no way this commercial be aired in Germany! Has too many elements of Speer aesthetics.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:11:54 PM EST
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Avedon Carol has a bit of a rantat the Sideshow. Go check out Arthur's essay too.

So yesterday I went for a walk, and then I watched a little TV, and when I looked at the web again I discovered, to my disgust, that Obama apparently repudiated Wright some more. I can't pretend I'm happy with the way he has been handling this. Basically, he accepted the right-wing's characterization instead of fighting it and taking the opportunity to make a real show of values. Now that right-wing characterization has solified into "fact", And it doesn't work.

People who have aided and abetted the murder of over a million Iraqis and the destruction of our economy and an American city think they are in a position to condemn Jeremiah Wright. What's that about? How do you let them get away with that? These are people who condemn America all the time, and they think Jeremiah Wright went too far with a few strong (and basically true) words?

Hey, he's not the guy who remorselessly killed hundreds of thousands of Afghanis and Iraqis (and over 4,000 US troops) for no good reason. He's not the guy who shrugged off the danger to New Orleans and then made matters worse as the city was washed away. He's not the guy whose economic policies are breaking the backbone of America's middle class. He's not the guy who ignored the warnings of a coming real terrorist attack on America that blasted a big hole into the New York skyline. Nor is he the guy who has been shredding our Constitution and lawlessly torturing people.

What the Republicans have been doing is anti-American and indefensibly immoral, and the media has helped, and they think Wright needs to be condemned? But apparently, Obama does, too. I guess we just don't kill enough ragheads and fags. Go ahead, tell me how Arthur Silber is wrong




keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:17:50 PM EST
I don't get it Wright is being crucified for saying the same things that people from Chalmers Johnson to Michael Scheuer have been saying about "blowback" since 9/11. I suppose the problem is that Wright is not a white CIA type but a Black preacher. So Wright is being pilloried for being Black, not because of what he said. Like Ward Churchill was crucified for identifying as a Native American.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:30:28 PM EST
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Ward Churchill was crucified for saying that the folks who died in the WTC were 'little Eichmann's' who deserved their fate.  There are serious academic freedom issues with respect to what was done to him, but that does not make his views pretty.  The irony is that on the academic side the person leading the charge against him was Alan Dershowitz who expresses the same views, just towards Arabs rather than Americans. But again, double standards for left and right don't mean that the same views when espoused by the left aren't appalling, just that they're irrelevant (fortunately) and that the right wing versions aren't subject to similar ostracism (unfortunately).
by MarekNYC on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:42:23 PM EST
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Difference: Scheuer is a little white guy from the CIA, about as visually intimidating as a rag doll.  Wright, on the other hand, is the "BIG SCARY NEGRO!  GRAB YOUR KIDS AND FLEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!" guy.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:13:49 PM EST
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People who have aided and abetted the murder of over a million Iraqis and the destruction of our economy and an American city think they are in a position to condemn Jeremiah Wright. What's that about? How do you let them get away with that? These are people who condemn America all the time, and they think Jeremiah Wright went too far  with a few strong (and basically true) words?

First part correct, second part - huh? Yeah, Aids is a US government conspiracy, Farrakhan is one of the greatest thinkers of the twentieth and twenty first century... the guy's a nut.

 What the hell is Obama supposed to do, pretend the double standard on wacko relatively marginal lefties vs. mainstream influential wacko righties doesn't exist? And should one approve of left wing radical nationalist idiocy just because its right wing variant is so accepted?

by MarekNYC on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:36:23 PM EST
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Yea, those were the bits I couldn't go to.

I think Obama was in a heads-they-win, tails-you-lose situation. Nor do I necessarily agree with Arthur's suggestion that Obama's condemnation reveals him to be entirely unprincipled. He's a politician for chrissakes, sometimes you have to kiss some damn ugly babies to get where you're going.

But I think that comment was less about Obama than the partizan nature of the trad med right-wing sycophancy. It isn't even remotely balanced, McCain gets a pass on the stuff Obama (and Clinton) get pasted over. McCain will be the guy you can have a beer with, Obama will be in fawn.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:47:44 PM EST
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I was in "Defend Wright" mode until I read about his comment about Obama's Philly speech.  Sure, Obama didn't embrace Wright's stuff from the videos, even though some of it was true.  Obama, as you said, is a politician.  But Obama hardly threw Wright under the bus that day.  And I do think Wright was showboating a bit in front of the NPC.  The Moyers interview was apparently very good, but Wright flew off the handle at NPC.

Wright did kind of coldcock Obama.

But, personally, my inner conspiracy theorist is still wondering if the whole thing wasn't planned by Wright and Team O as a means to killing the issue once and for all (going along with TBG's "Obama as Uber-Patriot" theme).

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:12:00 PM EST
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my inner conspiracy theorist is still wondering if the whole thing wasn't planned by Wright and Team O as a means to killing the issue once and for all

It occured to me too. But I think Wright has been playing the eyes-rolling scary guy far too madly for it to be a ploy.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:37:44 PM EST
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That's my take on it, too, but it does seem odd to me that the two would have such a bitter and public breakaway so suddenly.

If it was a ploy, it seems to have worked, and it makes them geniuses for manufacturing such an excellent "Sista Souljah" moment.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 06:36:21 PM EST
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Yep. The problem is that "the right-wing version is so accepted". So that the right is always in the bully seat. So easy for them to call the left on "extremism" while they themselves are never called.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:33:07 PM EST
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Even with all that crap, Obama's still polling ahead of McCain, and only about 1/3 of voters give a shit -- far less than those who care about Bush.  (I wonder: Are all of them Republican partisans or just almost all?)  Wright was the GOP's best card.  They played it, and it's turning into overkill.

McCain's getting hurt by that ad in North Carolina, too.  It's getting played as GOP race-baiting.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 07:31:01 PM EST
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The time has come to announce to ET the truth, that I have become an idiot.  Perhaps it's due to the aftereffects of medication, perhaps to the limited diversions available in rehab.  One would hope i'm stronger than to bow to the loneliness effects when one's girlfriend decides to go Tanz in den Mai, and, well...

I'm going to drink Wybarowa vodka and watch Chelsea Liverpool.

Is there a chance i'm not an idiot?

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:44:39 PM EST
No - you've merely become briefly normal. It will pass.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:47:59 PM EST
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Tanz in den mai ???

I doubt you're in any condition to go gallivanting around. Chill, cuddle your scotch and feel smug that you're watching the match, as it's only on Murdoch-vision here so I won't see it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:50:09 PM EST
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You've never seen how funky i can be with a pair of crutches.  ;-)

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:16:11 PM EST
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Luksusowa's the way to go - it's potato rather than grain based and thus has a nice softness and hint of sweetness.  As for your soccer watching, not really my form of mindless mind diversion, but whatever works. I'd probably go for good food - cooked if I'm up for it, cold cuts and cheeses if not, plus either a well written junk SF book or a mindless DVD.
by MarekNYC on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:53:30 PM EST
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Crazy Horse:
Is there a chance i'm not an idiot?

Who wants to be normal anyway? I'd rather be a fool...

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:03:28 PM EST
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being a joyous fool, that's me cup'o tea, and this match is fookin' great!  Best match i've seen in many months. Still null null, but wow.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:14:52 PM EST
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Tor!  Chelsea!

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:23:35 PM EST
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And what a goal! It's told it's Droghba's revenge for something Benitez said of him (something about a video library full of Droghba's dives).

But just a minute ago, the 1:1 was a beauty, too!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:06:14 PM EST
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3:2. But Liverpool could have won, had the stupid referee not denied them that penalty...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:30:18 PM EST
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my girlfriends sisters husband and her father went to the pub together tonight to watch the match. the husband is a fanatical Liverpool supporter, from cheshire. The Father is a waterman from the estend, and lifelong Hammers fan. but in his youth was part of a group that used to go drinking that included Frank Lampard Snr and Harry Redknap. so given the option of a team thats from London and includes a mates son he's probably going to be the only chelsea supporter there.

It's predicted that it will all end in tears, I'll find ourt tomorrow.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:40:48 PM EST
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Liverpool goal!

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:09:00 PM EST
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I went off to look for a Mark Steele quote about sport, from his tv biography of Mohamed Ali which runs along the lines that anyone who dosent like sport is wrong and came across this

BBC/OU Open2.net - Mark Steel Lectures - Interview

the guy who they got to talk to us about Aristotle came up with a brilliant quote - about the rich judging everything by how much it cost; an ancient version of "the price of everything and the value of nothing." It was a brilliant quote to have over shots of Blair meeting the Hinduja brothers, and Richard Desmond and Rupert Murdoch, because that's how they judge everyone - if someone's rich, they're successful; if someone's done some extraordinary thing but haven't much money, therefore they're a failure.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:49:35 PM EST
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and added to this here's the first part of his speach at the LeicesterNUT's strike rally



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 08:53:41 PM EST
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http://thorntonbankwindfarm.eventphotos.be/

(not really explored, still on dialup. Should I be visible on any pic, can anyone point to it, or post it?)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 02:49:49 PM EST
Here ya go.

That's you in the middle, right?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:08:07 PM EST
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Absinthe's Mind-Altering Mystery Solved - Yahoo! News
An analysis of century-old bottles of absinthe - the kind once quaffed by the likes of van Gogh and Picasso to enhance their creativity - may end the controversy over what ingredient caused the green liqueur's supposed mind-altering effects .

The culprit seems plain and simple: The century-old absinthe contained about 70 percent alcohol, giving it a 140-proof kick. In comparison, most gins, vodkas and whiskeys are just 80- to 100-proof.

In recent years, the psychedelic nature of absinthe has been hotly debated. Absinthe was notorious among 19th-century and early 20th-century bohemian artists as "the Green Fairy" that expanded the mind. After it became infamous for madness and toxic side effects among drinkers, it was widely banned.

The modern scientific consensus is that absinthe's reputation could simply be traced back to alcoholism, or perhaps toxic compounds that leaked in during faulty distillation. Still, others have pointed at a chemical named thujone in wormwood, one of the herbs used to prepare absinthe and the one that gives the drink its green color. Thujone was blamed for "absinthe madness" and "absinthism," a collection of symptoms including hallucinations, facial tics, numbness and dementia.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 03:27:08 PM EST
The explanation I've heard is that the active ingredient in wormwood isn't flushed fro mthe body very readily and so accumulates if you drink it on a regular basis. One month of getting drunk on it and your brain melts.

I have no idea if it's true.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:16:02 PM EST
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The wiki entry is full of fascinating material...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:27:03 PM EST
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Having drunk some "real" absinthe (not the fake stuff they sell now), I must say it's not ordinary hooch of the anis kind, for example. It's not the alcohol, it's something else that has a strange effect. Perhaps accumulation might induce a different state of consciousness.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 04:35:48 PM EST
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at underground parties in frisco, there would often be a table where one could buy from the witches some real, wormwood based absinthe.  i'm no scientific sample, but that was sure not an alcohol high.  was it actually absinthe, i have no idea.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 05:19:40 PM EST
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This busker I snapped in Bath seems to have partaken of the wormwoody elixir, wouldn't you say?

My first try at uploading a photo to ET. Here goes.



Blaugustine

by Augustinatalie (endapressNOTblueyonderNOTcoNOTuk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 08:51:25 PM EST
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If you take the hair away, the violinist kind of looks like Ken Livingstone.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 09:12:22 PM EST
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Great photo and you posted your first!  No reason not to find yourself adding to the photoblog tomorrow!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu May 1st, 2008 at 01:30:28 AM EST
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Oh so that's where absenteeism comes from!

Blaugustine
by Augustinatalie (endapressNOTblueyonderNOTcoNOTuk) on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 at 08:14:51 PM EST
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