What does the West wish and what does it tolerate?

by DoDo
Fri May 16th, 2008 at 06:29:43 AM EST

A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of neoliberalism. "Reforms", "markets", "deregulation", "privatisation" are the buzzwords everywhere. ET focuses on the exposure of the creation, repeat-ad-nauseam, and internal contradictions of this narrative by economists and the business press (especially from Britain), and how it is pushed on the EU.

But, at the other end of the line, all this "reforming" of labour laws back into the 19th century and deregulation into a bubble and the crash following it, is perceived as policy recommendation - from the EU, from the WTO/IMF, from "the West".

Below a recent example, some quotes in which I find a rather concise summary of how the reformists perceive it in my region.


The three quotes come from a politologist's recent analysis of Hungary's hopelessly stuck domestic political situation, with focus on personalities and personalisation, thus it's not direct 'reforms' advocacy.

László Lengyel (left on a photo from 168óra) is one of the best politologists of Hungary on the 'left-liberal' side. (To underline his own dual roots, he was an economist in the eighties, who was kicked out from the Party for liberalism in 1988, but offered membership again a year later.) He is independent enough to contend that politics is ever more about the leaders of the two camps only (PM Ferenc Gyurcsány of the now minority-governing Socialists and PM-ante Viktor Orbán of the right-populist Fidesz), who are quasi-kings, support for whom became a personal cult; and that both are unfit to govern.

But, seeing how Orbán sought and won popularity in opposition with referenda against Gyurcsány's "reforms" (an inversion of the US/West European sense of economic left/right my long-time readers should be accustomed to), in an excerpt from his new book, he criticises the right-wing leader thusly:

A halál kilovagolt Magyarországról [M$ Word!]Death Rode Out of Hungary
Egész Európa liberális reformokkal kínlódik, ő ezek ellen szónokol és népszavaztat. Mondhatja Sarkozynek, Merkelnek, Topolaneknek, de még a Kaczyński testvéreknek is: mindaz, amit ti tesztek esztelen liberalizmus, nem hagyom privatizálni az egészségügyet, nem engedem a vizitdíjat és a tandíjat, nem támogatom a nyugdíjrendszer egyensúlyba hozását, a gazdaság kifehérítését. Elítélem az általatok kívánt konvergenciát, helyette a kiterjedt állami rendszer, tőke-, vállalkozó-, és polgár-ellenes fellépés a célom. Csoda-e, ha Sarkozy nyolc percet ad neki, ha Merkel merev arccal hallgatja, ahogy egy jobboldali pártvezér előadja a német újbaloldal álláspontját, védi a szociális vívmányokat? Egy olyan konzervatívot, aki Európát népszavazza le.The whole of Europe labours with liberal reforms, he [Orbán] is peechifying and referending against these. He can say to Sarkozy, Merkel, Topolánek, but even the Kaczyński brothers: "All what you do is senseless liberalism, I won't let healthcare be privatised, I won't allow doctor visit and tuition fees, I won't support the rebalancing of the retirement system, the whitening of the economy [= belief that lower taxes end tax evasion]. I condemn the convergence you wish, instead, my goal is Big Government, and acting against capital, entrepreneurs, the bourgeois." Is it a miralce that Sarkozy gives him [only] eight minutes, and if Merkel listens to him with a frozen face as a right-wing party leader presents the standpoint of the German New Left, protects the social accomplishments? A conservative, who is referending on Europe [untranslateable word-play on "shitting on sth." -DoDo].

While lately, Sarko and Merkel are under constant barrage from the business media for "abandoning the reforms", here, they are held up as standard to abide by in going towards one direction only. There is some irony in a nominal leftist talking about the right-wing thing to do. But, more to the point, he seems unaware of all the brotherly help EPP members gave to each other, however adventurous their rhetoric - including to Orbán.

At the end, going against "reforms" is equated with being anti-EU. Later in the same article, a little more explicit:

Magyarország csendes, újra csendes. Csak tátognak, történelmi értelemben hallgatnak politikusai, gazdasági és szellemi emberei. Európa hangos. Berlin és London a világ vérének kerengetői, Párizs, Milánó, Stockholm, Helsinki nem alábbvalók. A magyar autó, amely 1998 óta szorgalmasan szembement a forgalommal, egy éve döcög egy irányba vele. Lélektanilag megrendítő, ha valaki mellett nemcsak a gazdasági növekedés kelet-közép-európai kisautói húznak el, hanem a lassú óriások reformjaikkal lesodornak a padkára. A finn, a spanyol, az ír kiegyezések régen voltak, másik világban. A német, a francia, a brit próbálkozások itt és most vannak. A konfliktusos politizálást fölváltotta a konszenzusos. Az európai politikai, gazdasági, szellemi elit, különböző nemzetekből, társadalmi csoportokból, nemzedékekből, meggyőzte magát, hogy van még remény új gondolatra, lehet még egymással tárgyalni, kiegyezni. Van hová illeszkednünk. Van miből reményt merítenünk.Hungary is silent, silent again [play on a post-1848-revolutions poem -DoDo]. Its politicians, economists and intellectuals are only gawping, they are silent in a historical sense. Berlin and London are the circulators of the world's blood, Paris, Milan, Stockholm, Helsinki aren't any lower. The Hungarian car, which from 1998 went busily against the traffic, is bumping in its direction for a year now. It is psychologically shocking if someone is overtaken not just by the Eastern-Central European mini cars of economic growth, but the slow giants are pushing them off to the kerbs with their reforms. The Finnish, the Spanish, the Irish compromises were done long ago. The German, the French, the British attempts are happening here and now. Conflict politics were supplanted by consensus politics. The European politicial, economic and intellectual elite, from different nations, social groups, generations, convinced itself that there is still hope for new thought, one can still negotiate with each other, one can still compromise. There is a place where we can fit in. We can place our hope in something.

Look how in this narrative, the European consensus ideal and the neoliberal reform ideal are seamlessly interwinded.

One could point out how evidence-free the causative association of (unspecified) reforms and growth is; that the distribution of that growth (e.g. wealth capture by the rich) isn't mentioned. Or that Lengyel forgets about other Eastern-Central European countries where dissatisfaction with the results of prior 'reforms' gave birth to degenerated political landscapes full of extremists and populists (say Slovakia and Poland), which kind of destroys the whole argument.

One could observe the unconscious Freudian slip in how he speaks about elite opinion, not democratic will; and how he comes close to spelling out the collective self-delusion (when conviction is not the result of independent analysis - but the internal dynamics of a group).

One could also laugh about Lengyel's illusions about consensus politics - seeing a consensus in an Ireland engulfed by the Lisbon Treaty referendum debate, in France just because serial provocateur and bully Sarkozy got himself a centrist image by giving fat jobs to some defectors from the centre-left, in Germany just because Merkel is backed by a Grand Coalition, never mind the ever more shrill fight between its two members.

But this is what comes across - in the mainstream media, in international conferences, even in EU bodies. And this is the common sense inspiring most pro-Europeans in Central Europe to advocate being, and if in office, to be good students of the EU by being the leading students in neoliberalism.

What I also note with sadness is the uninspired, unoriginal, intellectually servile attitude of orientation - of making out where the West heads and head in the same direction, instead of thinking for oneself. (This theme and its origin among the seventies-eighties dissident intellectuals will be featured in my upcoming magnum opus on Central Europe, should I manage to finish it.)

I find the final, concise summary of the above themes in a part paraphrased by the reporter in an interview in the last issue of liberal weekly 168 Óra (in which, again, the focus is on domestic politics, yet the liberal common sense on economics plays a role):

Lengyel: „Orbán a szociális populizmusért ejtette a Himnusz-Trianon vonalat”Lengyel: "Orbán ditched the National-Anthem - Trianon[*] line for social populism"
Azt írja: a Nyugat elviseli, ha valaki nem reformer, és nem is nacionalista, elbírja, ha nacionalista, de reformokat csinál, de hogy antireformer legyen és bezárkózó, azt nem fogadja el.You write that the West can tolerate if someone is no reformer and also no nationalist, it endures if someone is nationalist but implements reforms, but to be anti-reformist and reclusive, it won't accept that.
Ez Orbán. Képzeljük el, amikor a fotó megjelenik a New York Timesban, ahogy fogóval bontja az alumíniumkorlátot a téren. A másik oldalon Gyurcsány, és a kép alá odaírják: „Hazudtunk éjjel, hazudtunk nappal...” Ilyen értelemben a könyv rideg. Én kiléptem a klubból. Elfogadom, kellemetlen látni, hogy körülötted a buliban mindenki jól érzi magát, a szocialisták most isszák a tizenkettedik sörüket. A Fidesz-szobában boroznak, ott is mindenki jól mulat. És akkor beállít valaki, aki egy ásványvizet kér, és nem érti, hogy mitől boldogok ezek a csőd legközepén.This is Orbán. Let's imagine that a photo appears in the New York Times, showing how he dismantles the aluminium barriers on [Parliament] square[+]. On the opposing page, Gyurcsány, and they write below the picture: "We lied by night, we lied by day..." In this sense, this book is austere. I left the club [of Gyurcsány-fan left-liberal intellectuals -DoDo]. I accept that it is discomforting to see that everyone has a good time in the party around you, the Socialists are dringing their twelfth beer. In the Fidesz room, they are dringing wine, everyone has a good time there too. And then someone enters who asks for mineral water, and doesn't understand why these guys are happy in the middle of a bankrupcy.
[*] Palace in Paris where the post-WWI border changes were ratified
[+] Barriers were erected after the riots, dismantling them was a civic disobedience stunt. I lower my head over both the cynism of the action and the law-and-orderist reaction by "left-liberals".

Of course, while I dislike Orbán with a passion, it's not for bucking the (supposed) Western line, and while I too feel like that mineral water drinker, it's not because what passes for economic policy here lacks (the proper amount of) "reforms". But that paraphrase in the question is the perfect summary of the mindset here.

If only, at least, the Western EU would present and loudly advocate a new guideline to follow.

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Just the other day, I had a discussion with a colleague over the EU-pushed rail liberalisation - the colleague took it as a given, and thought France is a blocker on passenger transport deregulation because the German Railways would block it anyway from new markets to the East.

Of course, even at the level of bare self-interest, the truth is that while the former monopolist German Railways stands to gain on foreign markets (the same way French EDF happily expands on liberalised electricity markets elsewhere), it is not at all happy about losing market share at home; and it's only that similar sentiments from SNCF get more traction with politicians in France.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 06:31:49 AM EST
I strongly suspect that this "market liberalization" is being pushed by American "conservatives" who I also strongly suspect are working night and day to push "American conservative" ideology off on the Europeans.

This ideology includes bigotry of minorities (which Europeans appear to be susceptible to) and the notion that some human beings are without human value. This includes the pushing of "law and order" strategies that are most degrading to human dignity. Notice the way the Roma are treated in Italy and the policies pushed by Sarkozy.

This ilk is out to undermine the noble and decent society that Europeans are trying to build for their continent. These people despise European welfare states and the social market they regard at "socialism." They have already undermine Christian Democratic parties, which appear to be adapting American "conservative values" over traditional Christian Democracy, which places value and worth on all people.

Along side of that, you can hear this being cheered on by American national talk radio hosts, push off gross misunderstandings and falsehoods about the situation in Europe. Even going so far as to state that Europe "is becoming like the Soviet Union." You can then notice this same mentality in the publication The Brussels Journal, the American conservative voice in Europe. The American conservative onslaught against European values appears to have anti-European, British nationalists as its staging point.

The American conservatives find the Lisbon Treaty the most dangerous, and view it as undermining the outdated "Euro-Atlantic Alliance." The same ilk that is cheering for the Sarkozys and Merkels of Europe actually despise European independence from the United States. The new European foreign policy instruments of the Lisbon Treaty means a shift away from the "transatlantic alliance," and the transatlantic alliance is the chain that hold Europe in bondage to America.

by euamerican on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 07:20:43 AM EST
I think you give Europeans too much credit when you say we are trying to build a decent society for the continent and it is the American conservatives who hinder us. The neoliberal rot has already spread to the core of our institutions. The Barroso commission's deregulation schemes are hardly caused by American arm-twisting. When Austria's finance minister announces plans to privatize the railways and build a social security fund with the proceeds he doesn't get his orders from the American embassy. And even the worst of our politicians have an indigenous power base, be it the Mafia or the Catholic Church.

On the other hand the US has meddled extensively in our political and media landscape. As Tim Weiner writes in Legacy of Ashes 5% of Marshall plan funds were made available to the CIA for bribing politicians media outreach and whatever else it cooked up. And the Gladio-network was active at least until 1990 and maybe still is.


The plural of anecdote is bullshit.

by generic on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 05:02:41 PM EST
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When Austria's finance minister announces plans to privatize the railways and build a social security fund with the proceeds...
Ah, Austria too? The Greek PM said words to the same effect (not limited to the railways). They're on a selling spree which they aim to portray as a way to keep the SS system out of trouble (they're meeting unexpected resistance too, but that's a diary of its own). Do EU governments have the same political advisors or what?

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 07:44:46 PM EST
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Maybe the EPP had a meeting.

The plural of anecdote is bullshit.
by generic on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 08:15:07 AM EST
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BTW, I'd be very much interested in a diary on these current plans, if you have the time.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 12:50:05 PM EST
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I'll see what I can find.

The plural of anecdote is bullshit.
by generic on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 06:27:36 PM EST
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I can not understand why the overwhelming majority of Europeans would buy this bilge given that they can see how well it's worked for the overwhelming majority of Americans.  We have no health care, no pensions, no job protection.  Environmental, safety, and health regulations have been gutted, to the extent they existed in the first place.  Capital and credit structures are chaos.  Transportation infrastructure has been decaying for years and has effectively no capacity to address increasing fuel prices.  In spite of our agricultural capacity, we are a net food importer.  Decent education is available only if you can afford to live in the right place.  We have a regressive tax structure.  And we may have the most economically rigid society in the industrialized West; the only economic mobility is down.

If this sounds like a system you would like to emulate, by all means buy a ticket and get on board.

by rifek on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 08:38:16 PM EST
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rifek:
I can not understand why the overwhelming majority of Europeans would buy this bilge given that they can see how well it's worked for the overwhelming majority of Americans.
But they can't. Can we have more americans coming to Europe and telling us that, no, the grass is not greener?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 08:54:47 AM EST
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We can't afford to go to Europe, which ought to say a lot.
by rifek on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 10:49:01 AM EST
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1) as Migeru said; 2) I am not at all sure that even a simple majoriuty of Europeans still dreams the American Dream - but, unfortunately, the majority of our political (and economic, and military, and media) elites do.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 12:44:19 PM EST
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There's a clear sense in which the Barroso-commission EU is economic-liberal. But to make some kind of monolith of "the West", and furthermore to see Britain, France, and Germany as engaged in the same process, is pretty tendentious. Britain went back to its free-market roots with Thatcher, continued by Blair. Germany did some liberalising under Schroeder, but it's not exactly the current flavour of the month. Sarkozy is certainly making plenty of noise about "reform", but how much will get done is a fair question.

But isn't "the West", in the Hungarian discourse, serving the same purpose as the Anglo world in neo-lib discourse in Western continental Europe? The place where everyone agrees that liberalisation is just the evident, natural thing to do, and look at the wonderful results?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 07:26:41 AM EST
In the Hungarian 'left-liberal' discourse, as well as the dominant variant of Hungarian pro-EU discourse, yes, the West plays a similar role. Only it is wider, it's not just the economic reforms, but a package involving consensus-seeking, minority rights and such positives, too.

Regarding Britain, France and Germany, the governments of all three are using liberalising rhetoric (Merkel too, she won an election back when she made it the centerpiece, but she uses it even today, while using opposed rhetoric too), while all three go against it in practice with a routine. Lengyel's mistaken view is tendentious, but above all a rather typical superficial reading based on the (perhaps selective reading of) liberalising rhetoric - and its enhancement in media.

It's sad, really.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 11:54:03 AM EST
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The question is of course as well, what is the current frame of Hugary e.g. wrt maximum income tax, state quote, enterprise taxation... may be factors.

For Germany e.g.
maximum income tax: 47.5%, after Schroeder went down from 56% under Kohl to 44.3%, the Merkel gov increased it again
state quote: about 43% estimated for 2008 by BFM (after 46.8% in 2005)
less but close to 30% enterprise taxation


by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:22:19 PM EST
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I'm disturbed by the ease with which the plutocrats (and their lackeys) have co-opted the term "liberal". I don't think we should allow them to get away with this without a fight.

There is nothing liberal in "neo-liberalism". What the movements wants is a rollback in the rights of workers and citizens in general and a replacement by autocratic (and business friendly) policies. The conservative propagandists in the US learned this trick several decades ago and have been using the misuse of language as a tool ever since.

A perfect example is the substitution of "death tax" for estate tax. George Lakoff started a minor sub-discipline in his analysis of "framing" of issues. "Liberalization" and "flexibility" in labor relations are euphemisms for union busting.

What's needed is a counter term that the left adopts which describes this movement more accurately. Of course there is something different about politics outside the US where even the party names have little connection to the policies that they promote. Democrat and Republican have lost all meaning and could just as easily be called blue and red, but exactly what do the Canadian "Progressive Conservatives" stand for? How about "Christian Democrats"? Do they think  non-Christians should have rights or participate in politics?

I'm a bit short of ideas this morning so I'll leave it to others to come up with nominations for a term to replace "neo-liberal".
 

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 08:58:08 AM EST
Well, the literal meaning of liberalism being "freedom-ism", its impose-reforms-from-above maxim indeed makes neoliberalism an oxymoron.

However, neoliberalism is not that much different from old British Whig liberalism and the ideas of Manchester Capitalism, not to mention South American liberalism. While many of the saints of the US libertarian/Friedmanite neolib movements, e.g. Austrian School, came definitely from Central European liberalism.

So I suggest an acceptance of "liberalism" as the name of a big ideological family tree, whose regional branches evolved into rather different ideologies, with US equal-opportunity social liberalism being just one of those, and with neoliberalism as a cancerous growth.

Where the for me sad part is that what remains of the formerly rich and varied Central European liberalism (including a good chung of social liberalism) are a bunch of converts to the neolib; and a similar disease affected most Western European liberal parties, too - witness the name of the European liberal meta-party: European Liberal Democrat and Reform Party.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:07:08 PM EST
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Neoliberalism was coined in Germany and means different from liberalism, the assumption that the society has to care for those who are not able to live from what they can earn when they give their best.

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:25:39 PM EST
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As with all "neo"-s, there are successive applications. The anti-laissez-faire, post-Great-Depression German Neoliberalismus you refer to was one earlier application. I also read that the liberals supporting FDR's New Deal and supporting a strong presidency for that reason were called Neoliberals, too.

As far as I could ascertain, the origin of the modern sense of Neoliberalism is South American (Pinochet's time), and was also used by some American originators of nineties Third Wayism early as 1983 (see A Neoliberal's Manifesto [pdf!]), though it is primarily NOT self-applied.

On a further nuance, the English Wiki has this to say:

Neoliberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Strictly in the context of English-language usage the term is a syllabic abbreviation of "neoclassical liberalism", since in other languages "liberalism", minus any modifier such as "social" (as in social liberalism), has more or less retained its classical meaning.


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 02:35:58 PM EST
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In my mind "liberal" is associated with those who want to see equality for all. How this is achieved is a matter of implementation.

The converse is privilege for some. Sometimes it is simple plutocracy, but other times there is a hint of the "philosopher king" or wise ruler model.

The genius of the American model was, that for the first time, rulers operated with "the consent of the governed". If the people make bad decisions at least they are their own.

I think I see too much of the top down model of governance in the various versions of "liberalism" for comfort. I think this blurring of the fundamental axiom of democracy is deliberate.

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 03:30:43 PM EST
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In my mind "liberal" is associated with those who want to see equality for all.

As I said, that's the US sense of it. Liberal means 'literally' freedom for all. Though, liberals being the ideology of the Enlightment, all three of "liberty, equality, fraternity" were present, even if with changing weights.

The converse is privilege for some. Sometimes it is simple plutocracy, but other times there is a hint of the "philosopher king" or wise ruler model.

And sometimes it is a delusion of meritocracy, as in the case of many 18th-19th century British and not just British liberals.

I think I see too much of the top down model of governance in the various versions of "liberalism" for comfort. I think this blurring of the fundamental axiom of democracy is deliberate.

It definitely discomforts me, too, but it's easy from my position :-) However, I suggest that the same top-down attitude is reflected in the US Founding Fathers' fears of direct democracy, ideas about the Senate and the electoral college, and the lack of universal suffrage they had initially in most (all?) states.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 12:58:41 PM EST
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There are worrying signs in Finland too, in the light of the latest political scandal.

A group of well-heeled businessmen control 'an association for developing communities in Finland'. That association gave 10s of thousands € to various candidates in the last General Election. The PM, for instance, got 10k. The 'donations' went to leading figures in the Centre Party, The National Coalition and the Social Democrats. All of these since-elected politicians now claim to have known nothing about the people behind the association.

All this came to light because another elected MP, and secretary of the Centre Party, 'forgot' to declare the origin of his donations from this association.

Apparently one of the key movers/funders behind the association is a Mr Sugary (not his real name, but close to it) - a man who made billions selling crappy cheap furniture all over Finland, by  using crappy TV ads that featured, for example, buxom scantily dressed bimbos playing phalluses with electric drills. The man is a monster of bad taste, so it is little wonder that he was literally stabbed in the back, round Christmas, by one of his business partners, after a heavy boozing session at his dacha.

They were not even bright enough to claim that the catastrophic collapse of one of their dining chairs (rustic table and 6 chairs, 109€), caused the business partner to tip violently against his host at the dinner while holding a steak knife, while the host was turned to his wife on the other side, worried that she was in difficulties as her face had slumped into a large tureen of Koskenkorva.

No, they didn't claim that.

Anyway, the recent flight of kitsch fancy that our entrepreneur cooked up is a super mall with outdoors indoors (if you see what I mean) and specially built olde worlde nests of alleyways hired out to crafts people. It's the idea of an 'experience' shopping centre. They also planned to have a system, run by the Finnish Post Office, such that your purchased goods were whisked away to be collected at the exit to the car park. Thus, in theory, happy shoppers would shop on, undeterred by the mounting physical evidence of their consumerism that they would have to push round all the wonderful 'experiences'.

This is called an IdeaPark. It professes green values, responsibiity to the community and to existing local shopkeepers - professes, but ignores, and the principle idea in this park is an advanced method of parting people from their money. I have some knowledge of all these things because I was peripherally involved in the project at its earliest stages, before Mr Phallic&Decker came in with elusive spondulex. At which point I and several other consultants left. I admit with shame to getting involved, but the guy who came up with the concept was a nice guy and his green/caring spiel was believable.

So here's the twist. Mr IdeaPark wants to build another of these countryside-wrecking monsters (and I can now see that they are) in Vihti - very close to an old wooden house I once lived in. It is a beautiful area.

Many politicians are against the project and the Environment Minister has consistently refused to give planning permission. However just before the scandal broke, the PM came out in favour of the Vihti IdeaPark, saying that it would bring much-needed service jobs to the area.

Wel, well, well. He gets 10k for his election campaign from an association funded by Mr IdeaPark, and then involves himself, unusually for a PM, in a planning application.

There's the facts, work it out for yourselves.

Its worrying.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 09:39:32 AM EST
Apparently one of the key movers/funders behind the association is a Mr Sugary (not his real name, but close to it) - a man who made billions selling crappy cheap furniture all over Finland, by  using crappy TV ads that featured, for example, buxom scantily dressed bimbos playing phalluses with electric drills.

Finland? Sounds like Italy! :D

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 03:17:41 AM EST
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To you, too: this is diary material!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 12:50:51 PM EST
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What I also note with sadness is the uninspired, unoriginal, intellectually servile attitude of orientation - of making out where the West heads and head in the same direction, instead of thinking for oneself. (This theme and its origin among the seventies-eighties dissident intellectuals will be featured in my upcoming magnum opus on Central Europe, should I manage to finish it.)

In what other Central (or is it Eastern? Central-Eastern?) European countries does this attitude/posture/meme stream vis-a-vis "The West" dominate?

A language is a dialect with an army and navy.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 11:30:12 AM EST
Basically, all. But only on the pro-European part of the elites. Significant resistance usually comes on a nationalist platform.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:15:04 PM EST
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I cant help but think there is more than one type of reform.

Nations change, the economy changes, technology changes. The EU is the prime example of change. All the members have undertaken 'reforms'. THe entire concept of the EU requires a re-evaluation of what has taken place before from a governmental and regulatory perspective.

However, the 'normal' process of governing is getting conflated, hijacked, with another type of reform, one which can be identified as neo-liberal, though to be fair its more like flogging the family silver.

Its ends up not being about reform but about values. What matters to us, solidarity, social welfare and cohesion.

Its not about economics, it never was.

Im rambling, i have a migraine!  

by EvilEuropean (evileuropean@googlemail.com) on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 12:13:12 PM EST
Superclass by David Rothkopf, explains why "the west" has to go the way of the dinosaurs just as "Communist" Russia did.  Yeah I have to express old paradigm Orwellian terms enclosed in quotes.
It is after all a for profit entity is it not?
by Lasthorseman (Lasthorseman@comcast.net) on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 11:30:02 PM EST


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