Hail the Mining Councilors!

by Sven Triloqvist
Tue May 20th, 2008 at 12:06:05 PM EST

In Finland there is an honorary non-hereditary title of `Vuorineuvos', bestowed by the President, that is recommended by a special committee, and is awarded to senior respected industrialists. The origins of the title are in mining (vuori can be hill or mine), but it is almost impossible to translate into English except by the name of the person, followed by `senior industrialist'. The Swedish term bergsråd or the German Bergrat are equivalent.


A sporty future vuorineuvos talking on a mobile - unusually for a Finn

The title is in the news at the moment in Finland because Kyösti Kakkonen (he of the Yellow jersey), the founder of the chain of discount stores Tokmanni, and partner in dodgy political campaign donations with Toivo Sukari and Tapani Yli-Saunamäki (see my diary They Paved Paradise ), is up for the title, to be confirmed by the non-communicative committee who meet next Tuesday.

So here are the interesting dynamics of the case:

  • The committee, headed by PM Matti Vanhanen, never discloses the names of candidates, never reveals its reasoning and never comments upon awards.

  • PM Matti Vanhanen received a 10,000 € campaign donation from the 3 partners above.

  • The candidates for Vuorineuvos were decided at a meeting of the committee last November - long before this scandal broke.

  • The President, to my knowledge, has never refused the advice of the `committee' - but it is no secret that our SD President Tarja Halonen is not entirely enamoured of the current PM, and particularly the drive to remove several powers of the Presidency and give them to the government. But there is always a first time, and she would be loudly applauded by the majority of Finns.

  • It costs nearly 50,000 € in stamp duty to get the honorific. Yes, you read that correctly - 50 Grand. A tidy sum that is usually paid by the organization or company that lobbies on behalf of candidates.

  • Jorma Olilla, former CEO of Nokia refused the title.

I am pretty certain that Kyösti Kakkonen was on the November list to receive the title of Vuorineuvos, and that he will be thus announced next week to great cries of `shame' and `perkele'. The PM will be caught with his testimonials in a vice-like grip. He's screwed however it turns out.

So, how about your country? Do you have honorifics, are they important, how are they awarded?

The only two anyone ever uses in referring to me are `Brittipiiras' or British Pie, after a now defunct exotic Finnish comestible of the Eighties, or another, which I cannot use without revealing my identity.

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How do you know of the upcoming announcement?  (Are you secretly the female President?)

I nominate Mika Hakkinen.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 01:29:07 PM EST
I knew her former Press aide (friend of the ex), but no, I am just guessing. I have a few pals in politics, but I have to get them quite wasted before they tell me anything of interest. Everybody is so discreet these days - unlike myself - which is probably why I never hear anything.

Mika Häkkinen is sweet, but hardly a respected industrialist. But we do have other honorifics that might fit (Don't know what the stamp duty is, though) such as Viihdeneuvos or Entertainment Councilor. but probably not  Opetusneuvos or Education Councilor.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 02:03:04 PM EST
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I guess the neuvos honorific is a Republican version of the gongs handed out by the Queen of the UK such as OBE and MBE.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 02:28:57 PM EST
Around here we call OBE or MBE British Pie.  In amurka, we call it Cow Pie.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 03:04:07 PM EST
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My father told me a rather amusing tale of a man who returned home from a night in a country pub covered in shit. When asked why, he explained that he had tried to ride his bike across the cow field at the back in the dark, fell off the bike, lost his brown beret and must have tried on 17 before he got his own back.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 04:15:21 PM EST
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My favourite is the Civil Service names for the various Orders of St Michael & St George which are only handed out to civil servants and are, in ascending order...

CMG = "Call Me God"

KCMG = "Kindly Call Me God"

GCMG = "God Calls Me God"

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 07:21:17 PM EST
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I'm partial to Japan where outstanding a craftsan or "artist" may be declared a national living monument.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:19:00 PM EST
What does this honour get you or entitle you to ? Money, fame, power, women ? Y'know, the usual thing.

If you're awardred the freedom of the city of london you're entitled to drive a herd of sheep over london bridge into the city. I hear one or two do so (at a queit time) just to ensure such a right doesn't lapse.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 10:59:45 AM EST
What it used to get was respect. Elder statesman status. I have a feeling that the value is about to plummet with the title being bestowed on crooks and liars.

Last week I was in E.R. Wahlman, a funny little shop in a  cobbled narrow street just off the Senate Square. They sell official hats. I was there to get a white hat for my daughter for her graduation ceremony.

109 Euros for this?
It IS real leather, sir, and there's a gold badge.
Gold-plated!
As you wish, sir.
But still...
It will last a lifetime, sir.
Not surprising when it is only used once a year...I'll take it.
Thank you, sir.

And then I noticed there were academic doctor's hats and a whole range of oher hats in purple and black. You could be outfitted for an early Colonial Thanksgiving Day in this shop.

So I suppose the Finns are quite keen on ceremonial headwear.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 12:17:54 PM EST
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In a climate where being without a hat is even more fatal than the apocryphal Ilkely moor, I'd suggest a certain amount of ceremony would accrue to the concept.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu May 22nd, 2008 at 03:04:04 PM EST
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If you're awardred the freedom of the city of london you're entitled to drive a herd of sheep over london bridge into the city. I hear one or two do so (at a queit time) just to ensure such a right doesn't lapse.

How apropos.  Are these traders, customers to be fleeced or are they of the furry, four legged variety?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer (argeezer@yahoo.com) on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 07:49:59 PM EST
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Well, in the USA we have the Presidential Medal of, (what else), Freedom!  

This award was reconstituted and provided with a recommending board with outside members by Kennedy, who awarded about two dozen, mostly to luminaries in industry, such as Edward Land of Polaroid, the arts, such as Pablo Casals, Rudolph Serkin, and Edmund B Wilson, Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter and other public figures of long standing and merit.

Lyndon Johnson added his retainers advisors and cabinet members to the list: Robert MacNamera, Dean Rusk, Walt Rostow, McGeorge Bundy, etc.  His first awards were to John F. Kenned and Pope John XIII.

Regan added like minded leaders from other states, such as Margaret Thatcher, or leaders with which he wanted to be identified, such as Anwar Sadat and economists such as von Hayek and Milton Freedman.  He also awarded more medals than any president before or since.

Clinton awarded Ronald Regan and then apparently gave it a rest.  W is not credited with any awards.  Perhaps the site has not been updated. Presidential Medal of Freedom

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer (argeezer@yahoo.com) on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 09:12:05 PM EST
In an interesting sideline to this discussion, Aki Kaurismäki was awarded the title of Academic on Friday. There are only 8 of them. For the man who danced drunk on the steps of the Cannes Film Festival, and refused an Oscar, the fact that he regarded the honour (presented by the President) as unique and moving, is in itself moving.

But as usual, one can say that there really is a pussycat under the tiger exterior. But only when it recognizes its own.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat May 24th, 2008 at 04:16:18 PM EST


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