LQD: Interesting times in the Spanish People's Party

by Migeru
Tue May 20th, 2008 at 05:51:57 PM EST

I commented after the recent Spanish general election that Rajoy, the PP leader, had won everything except for the election itself: more votes, higher vote percentage, more seats than in 2004. However, the party is planning a Congress for next month, and those faithful to Aznar, the hardliners on nationalism and terrorism, and their allied press, have been questioning Rajoy's leadership and laying the groundwork for a challenge to his leadership by Madrid regional president Esperanza Aguirre. Yesterday, former PM Aznar joined the fray on the side of the hardliners, as expected.

Aznar apoya a los 'duros' del PP frente a un Rajoy que quiere "mover" el partido · ELPAÍS.com[Former Spanish PM] Aznar supports the hardliners of [Spain's] PP against [party leader] Rajoy who wants to "move" the party - ElPais.com
La crisis del Partido PopularThe crisis of the [Spanish] People's Party
[...] El ex presidente reivindica la confianza y los principios del PP, como hizo San Gil - El líder del PP cree que el PSOE no da motivos para criticar su política antiterrorista [...] The former PM defends the PP's self-confidence and principles, as [the leader of the Basque PP, Maria] San Gil did - The PP leader [Rajoy] thinks that the PSOE is not giving reasons to criticise its counter-terrorism policy
Maria San Gil is a prominent Basque politician who takes a very confrontational stance against Basque nationalism, partly motivated by the fact that ETA murdered her mentor gregorio Ordóñez in her (and others') presence years ago.
Hasta ahora, Mariano Rajoy tenía como rival a un creciente y voluntarioso equipo de miembros del sector duro. Desde ayer, todo el PP sabe que el líder tiene enfrente a un miembro de la primera división, un miura casi imposible de controlar: José María Aznar. El ex presidente, que había mantenido un discreto silencio incluso después de la crisis de María San Gil -fue su esposa, Ana Botella, quien defendió a la dirigente vasca-, lo rompió ayer con estruendo: "En la vida política, la confianza y la defensa de los principios es siempre esencial". Palabras casi calcadas a las de San Gil, que ha lanzado un órdago a Rajoy porque, según le dijo a la cara, ya no confía en que él defienda los principios del PP.Up to now, Mariano Rajoy was facing a growing and willful team of hardliners. Since yesterday, the whole PP knows that the leader is facing a top-division opponent, a raging bull difficult to control: Jose Maria Aznar. The former PM, who had maintained a discreet silence even after the crisis involving Maria San Gil - it was his wife, Ana Botella, that defended the Basque leader -, broke it yesterday with a bang: "In political life, self-confidence and the defence of one's principles is always essential". Words almost copied from those of San Gil, who is betting the house against Rajoy because, as she told him to his face, she no longer trust him to defend the PP's principles.
Below the fold, a full commented translation of the El Pais piece.


Aznar entraba así en la guerra interna del PP, colocándose, como se esperaba, del lado de los duros que critican a Rajoy por su "tacticismo", una palabra que utilizó ayer el ex presidente. Y, sobre todo, reivindicaba su forma de hacer política, resumida con una idea que ayer repitió -"sin complejos"- frente a las supuestas dudas de Rajoy.Thus, Aznar entered the PP's internal warfare taking, as expected, a position on the side of the hardliners who criticize Rajoy for his "tacticism", a word that the former PM used yesterday. And, above all, he defended his own way of doing politics, summed up in one idea that he repeated yesterday - "without complexes" - as opposed to Rajoy's doubts.

The hardliners take a position of ideological purity, and accuse Rajoy of triangulating. The fact is that Rajoy didn't triangulate at all before the general election, though it seemed at times that he wasn't fully committed to staying on message as dictated by the PP's allied press, and was weary of four years of confrontation. "Tacticism" (i.e., "triangulation") is shaping to become a codeword for people to place themselves in the hardline faction.

El líder del PP, que sabía que se iba a enfrentar a otro doloroso lunes -además de Aznar se esperaba la gresca en el PP vasco por la convocatoria del congreso interno-, decidió, por una vez, adelantarse.The PP leader, who knew he would face another painful Monday - apart from Aznar [joining the fray], a fight was expected in the Basque PP due to the convening of the internal congress -, decided, for once, to act preemptively.

Here, El Pais revels in Rajoy's string of difficult Mondays, as well as qualifying his pre-emptive strike against Aznar by saying it is out of character for Rajoy to act decisively. Note how the following paragraph starts by suggesting that showing himself and taking questions from the media is unusual for Rajoy.

En contra de lo habitual, Rajoy presentó una conferencia del barón gallego Alberto Núñez Feijóo -uno de sus más fieles apoyos- y aceptó preguntas. A la primera sobre la situación interna, lanzó una parrafada que parecía preparada con un mensaje claro de respuesta a los duros: "Yo soy el que he sido siempre, pero creo que en la vida de cuando en cuando hay que moverse. Lo único que no podemos hacer es no movernos y estar siempre en el mismo sitio, porque eso no lo hace nadie en ninguna faceta de la vida".Against his habits, Rajoy introduced a presentation by the Galician 'Baron' Alberto Núñez Feijóo - one of his most faithful supporters -, and took questions. At the first one on the [party's] internal situation he released a seemingly planned tirade with a clear message in response to the hardliners: "I am the same I have always been, but I think that in life one has to move every so often. The only thing we cannot do is never move and always be in the same position, because nobody does that in any aspect of life".
Frente a quienes le critican el acercamiento al Gobierno en materia antiterrorista -hubo foto unitaria después del último atentado-, Rajoy esgrimió un argumento: "Nadie discute que apoyemos al Gobierno, si es que el Gobierno lógicamente vuelve a los principios del Pacto Antiterrorista. No tengo ningún dato en esta legislatura que me diga que no va a volver a esos principios. La mayoría de los españoles quiere que apoyemos al Gobierno en este tema".Against those who criticize his approach to the Government on counter-terrorism matters - there was a show-of-unity photo taken after the latest [ETA] attack -, Rajoy wielded an argument: "Nobody challenges that we support the government, if the Government is returning to the principles of the Counter-terrorism Pact. I don't have any data in the present [parliamentary] term telling me that [the Government] is not going to return to those principles. The majority of Spaniards want us to support the Government on this matter".

Actually, to show unity with the government is a sea change after four years of acrimonious confrontation and even accusations that ZP was selling Spain cheap to ETA. So these developments are quite significant. Note, however, that the article suggests there has been criticism of this approach from the PP's ranks as this is not "on message".

El líder dejaba claro así que no puede ser duro en el asunto antiterrorista, como le reclaman, porque el Gobierno está haciendo lo que siempre le han pedido: mano dura contra ETA y Batasuna. Sin embargo, los matices en el PP se ven cada vez más claros. El domingo, Esperanza Aguirre, la más clara alternativa a Rajoy, exigía a José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero que no reciba al lehendakari hoy en La Moncloa, como protesta por la aprobación de una moción sobre la tortura en el Parlamento vasco. Rajoy, por el contrario, no le pidió que no lo reciba, sino que le escuche para decirle "no a sus ensoñaciones".Thus the [party] leader made it clear that he cannot be hard [on the Government] on counterterrorism, as is being demanded of him, because the Government is doing what they [the PP] have always demanded: heavy hand against ETA and [its political arm] Batasuna. However, nuances within the PP are becoming ever clearer. On Sunday, [Madrid region president] Esperanza Aguirre, the clearest alternative to Rajoy, demanded from [PM] José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero that he not receive the Basque regional president at [the PM's residence at] La Moncloa, in protest over the approval of a motion on torture in the Basque Parliament. Rajoy, on the contrary, didn't ask [ZP] not to receive him, but to listen to him in order to tell him "no to his daydreaming".

Esperanza Aguirre is clearly out of line here asking the Prime Minister to refuse to receive a regional president, but in fact Rajoy would have been expected to make similar outlandish demands before all through the previous parliamentary term. Note also that Esperanza Aguirre is the presumptive hardline challenger to Rajoy's leadership and so she would be the one chosen to make these statements.

Las dos almas del PP, cada vez más divididas, quedaron en evidencia no sólo por las palabras de Aznar, también por su auditorio. El ex presidente inauguró un curso de FAES, la fundación que preside, para recordar los 10 años de entrada de España en el euro. Y allí no había ningún miembro del equipo de Rajoy. Ni de los habituales de Génova, ni de la actual dirección, como Miguel Arias-Cañete, ni del grupo parlamentario. Sólo Cayetana Álvarez de Toledo, significativamente la única representante del ala dura en la dirección del grupo parlamentario. Tampoco estaban personajes moderados pero distanciados de Rajoy como Juan Costa -que suspendió su anunciada presencia a última hora- y Rodrigo Rato, que a pesar del asunto -el euro- no asistió. Por el contrario, Aznar contó entre su auditorio con Esperanza Aguirre, Ignacio González, la mano derecha de ésta, y varios consejeros de Madrid.The two souls of the PP, increasingly separated, became evident no only because of Aznar's words, but also because of his audience. The former PM opened a course by the FAES, the foundation he presides, to commemorate the 10 years since Spain joined the Euro. And there was not one member of Rajoy's team there. Not even the usual suspects from [the Party HQ at] Genova [St.], nor from the parliamentary group. Only Cayetana Álvarez de Toledo, significant for being the only representative of the hardliners in the directory of the parliamentary group. Absent were also moderate characters estranged from Rajoy such as Juan Costa - who withdrew his pre-announced presence at the last minute - and Rodrigo Rato, who didn't come despite the topic - the Euro - didn't attend. On the contrary, Aznar counted among his audience Esperanza Aguirre, her right-hand mand Ignacio González, and several other members of the Madrid regional cabinet.

It is an open secret that Rodrigo Rato didn't get along with Aznar, and rumour has it that he accepted the position of IMF chair as a way to avoid a damaging contest to succeed Aznar, which Rajoy won by default. When Rato left the IMF early for "personal reasons" last year it was widely assumed he was positioning himself to replace Rajoy but this was on the assumption that Rajoy would have remained loyal to Aznar and on the hardliner camp. With Rajoy taking a moderate stance it is unlikely that Rato will enter the fray. In any case, it is a significant snub though not unexpected that Aznar's finance minister of 8 years would miss an event organized by Aznar to commemorate the Euro.

Hace un par de semanas, cuando se empezó a lanzar la idea en los mentideros del PP de que Aznar estaba muy preocupado y molesto con la gestión de Rajoy, un diputado aznarista señaló a EL PAÍS. "Nadie puede hablar en boca de Aznar. Cuando quiera entrar, lo hará, y será con estruendo". El ex presidente cumplió ayer las previsiones de este parlamentario. En algunos momentos incluso llegó a usar la fórmula del "no me resigno" con la que Esperanza Aguirre hizo temblar a todo el PP en su amago de presentación de candidatura alternativa.A few weeks ago, when the idea started to be thrown around in the PP rumour mills that Aznar was very worried and botherd by Rajoy's management, an Aznarite MP indicated to El Pais "Nobody can put workd in Aznar's mouth. When he feels like entering [the fray] he will, and it will be with a bang". The former PM met this MP's expectations yesterday. At times he even used the expression "I do not resign myself" with which Esperanza Aguirre shook the entire PP in her feint of presenting an alternative candidacy [to the party's leadership].
Aznar no citó en ningún momento a Rajoy, y más bien se refirió a la época de la entrada de España en el euro, pero sus consejos sonaban como cuchilladas contra el líder, porque hurgaban en la herida abierta por las acusaciones de quienes dudan de Rajoy.Aznar never mentioned Rajoy, and referred rather to the period when Spain joined the Euro, but his advice sounded like stabs against the leader, because they dug in the wound open by the accusations of those who doubt Rajoy.

El Pais again enjoys the internal strife in the PP and reads meaning even in what was not said.

El ex presidente aseguró que uno de los criterios que han inspirado su actuación en política es el de "buscar la integración y la suma en torno a objetivos compartidos ya fueran éstos la refundación del PP o, ya desde el Gobierno, la incorporación al euro". Precisamente a Rajoy le acusan, especialmente Jaime Mayor y Francisco Álvarez-Cascos, dos personas con mucho poder en la época de Aznar, de no contar con todo el partido, de refugiarse en los más fieles y dejar fuera a gente de mucho peso.The former PM asserted that one of the criteria that inspired his political actions is that of "seeking integration and adding people around shared goals be it the refoundation of the PP or, once in Government, joining the Euro". Precisely, Rajoy is accused especially by Jaime Mayor and Francisco Álvarez-Cascos, two people with a lot of power in Aznar's time, of not counting on the whole party, of seeking refuge in those most loyal to him, and of leaving out some heavyweights.

Jaime Mayor was Minister of the Interior in Aznar's first cabinet, then bid unsuccessfully for the Basque government (thinking you can win a Basque regional election coming from the Interior Ministry borders on the delusional) and is now an MEP. Alvarez-Cascos comes from Asturias and was Minister of the Interior, Minister of kickbacksInfrastructure and one of Aznar's vicepresidents (Rato being the other one). He's always been a hardliner.

To me, it appears that this is a case of projection. Aznar got rid of older cadres who could have been troublesome (such as Miguel Herrero de Miñón), surrounded himself with loyalists and even alienated people like his first Labour minister Manuel Pimentel as well as cracking down on moderate catalan PP leader Aleix Vidal Quadras (now in exile as an MEP) who was so beaten down that he even replaced the Catalan Aleix with the Madrid-"posh" form Alejo.

Rajoy sólo recibió un ligero respiro cuando, unas horas después, uno de los que siempre están en todas las quinielas para sucederle, Alberto Ruiz-Gallardón, le prometió en público fidelidad, al menos hasta el congreso de junio. Gallardón recordó que Rajoy le dejó fuera de las listas al Congreso, pero insistió en que él es el líder para este momento. Casi todo el partido asume que Rajoy tendrá una reválida en las elecciones gallegas y europeas previstas para 2009.Rajoy only got a break when, a few hours later, one of those who are always in all the bets on who will succeed him, Alberto Ruiz-Gallardón, pledged loyalty in public, at least until the June congress. Gallardón recalled that Rajoy left him out of the party's lists for the recent Parliamentary elections, but insisted that [Rajoy] is the leader for the moment. Almost all the party assumes that Rajoy will have an exam in the Galician and European elections scheduled for 2009.

Rajoy has returned the favour by announcing that Gallardón will be part of his slate in the leadership contest in the upcoming party congress in June. It should be noted that Gallardón is reviled by the hardline faction and the PP's allied press. Being mayor of Madrid, and with the Madrid regional president Esperanza Aguirre being the presumptive hardline candidate for leader, it will come as no surprise to you that there was an extremely virulent confrontation between Gallardón's and Aguirre's factions for the leadership of the Madrid regional party. Also, Gallardón's attempt to get on the party lists for the general election was widely interpreted as an attempt to position himself as a moderate challenger to then-hardline Rajoy in anticipation of an electoral defeat and a leadership contest. Aguirre would have been at a disadvantage as a hardline candidate to replace Rajoy if Gallardón had been in parliament and she not, and so she manoeuvered to prevent Gallardón from getting on the lists. He then threatened with resigning as Mayor after the election, which hasn't happened.

Y mientras, aún retumbaba la cantinela de Aznar. "Nosotros renovamos España sumando a muchos y no prescindiendo de nadie"... En el PP ya se ha instalado la broma de que la nueva canción oficial del partido será I don't like mondays, un éxito de Bob Geldof que fue número uno en Inglaterra en 1979.Meanwhile, Aznar's refrain still resounded. "We renewed Spain by adding people and not doing without anyone"... In the PP they are already joking that the new official song of the party will be I don't like Mondays, a hit by Bob Geldof which was #1 in England in 1979.
So, how is this going to resolve itself? There will probably be a hardline leaderhip challenge to Rajoy with Aguirre as candidate. Right now I will put the odds at 50/50. If Rajoy wins I don't expect the harliners to accept the result and I predict a splinter party forming to the right of the PP with Rajoy leading the moderates to a more centrist position. If Aguirre wins, I doubt the moderates have the spine to form a splinter, though many of them may leave active politics if not the party altogether. Also, a hardline win will mean the PP will no longer try to attract centrist votes and it may all but disappear from the nationalist regions. In any case, the right will win fewer seats in future elections because of either reduced support having taken a more extreme position, or because Spain's electoral system is skewed towards larger parties and splitting the vote loses seats.

But maybe this is all wishful thinking on my part. What is undisputable is that the PP is living interesting times.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 05:53:23 PM EST
<applause for someone AND Migeru>

Just a suggestion: no me resigno should be translated by "I will not resign myself", meaning "I will not give up".

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:14:18 AM EST
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So what I think: "I will not give up." resignarse is "Conform or accept with patience and conformity".

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.
by PerCLupi on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:57:51 AM EST
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Suggestion accepted...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 05:43:05 PM EST
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Dear Migeru,

Let me, please, to be a dissident voice from Basque Country about the fate of PP:

-- First of all, let's not forget that the PP got  more than 10 million votes in last elections (almost half Spain). And they got it after four years of disastrous parliamentary job (they made a chicken coop Madrid parliament). How? Just speaking about terrorism, Catalan estatut and Basque nationalism.

-- Second, Jaime Mayor Oreja was the only one Basque parliamentary from PP (then, Alianza Popular) in Basque Government. As we say, he was the only franquist at that time.

-- Third, some years later, a very sympathetic and clever man called Gregorio Ordoñez was elected councilman of PP in San Sebastian. If ETA hadn't kill him, some years later, he would probably be the Spanish president now a days. He was a right-wing person of PP, but he was a very nice and educated person, not classist at all, and he was arguing with Batasuna people in the street, in the bars or he invited them to a good lunch just to talk and speak about differences. This good man was killed by ETA in a bar of the Old Part of San Sebastian, by two shots to his head.

-- Forth, Gregorio Ordoñez had in the city council a private secretary called Maria San Gil. During his first four years, Ordoñez got to get about 6 parliamentarians more than Oreja. But after his assassination, Maria San Gil became his relieve. And she is not G. Ordoñez. She's a very ambitious woman with some dose of hate and opportunism. In fact, after Ordoñez death, Oreja's brother set up the biggest bodyguard company in Spain.

It's very difficult to live everyday with bodyguards and don't hate the people who changed your life.

The problem is that you can get to hate everything surrounding you...

It's enough of Basque Country.

Going to Madrid, I think that it's not worth speaking about Aznar, but I want to make a digressive comment about Esperanza Aguirre

Aguirre (Agirre in Basque) is a very common Basque surname, as our Lehendakari J. A. Agirre (President) of Republican Basque Government in 1936. But her second surname is Gil de Biedma.

When she was elected as Madrid Community President of PP, I was shocked because I realised that she was a niece of Jaime Gil de Biedma, one of the greatest poets of XX century in Spain, and gay by the way. I suggest to everybody to read "Las persons del verbo" (Seix Barral_Biblioteca Breve).

Some years later I'm ashamed of the barbarians from Madrid. I can't believe it.

But there is a simple explanation: COPE, El Mundo, Tele 5, Antena 3, Diario Vasco, El Correo, etc. etc. Almost all MSM is the very right-wing people.

When I was a child, everybody was franquist. After the so-called transition, everybody was a democrat (And we asked ourselves where are all those franquist?)

Some years later, a little man with a thick moustache came talking about the Basque Movement of National Liberation. He was the man who got to bring all right-wings in one all-together.

Now, he's trying to avoid a split-up, without going to the political center space.

Nothing else.

This is long enough, some more later.

Tkx.

by kukute on Tue May 20th, 2008 at 10:41:13 PM EST
Will there be any effect on perception of the government's line from the arrest in Bordeaux by French and Spanish police of the presumed ETA head "Thierry"?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:11:02 AM EST
That depends. The Spanish-French police action against ETA was not arrested during the so-called "peace process" nor after its failure. However, the government was criticized regardless of police successes.

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.
by PerCLupi on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:38:21 AM EST
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It's interesting to note how losing an election puts pressure on a party, even when they have most of the MSM on their side.

All the same I wouldn't expect a split at this point, because even if the hardliners lose, it seems it will only be by a small margin. That's plenty of incentive to hang around and have another go at taking over the party in a year or so.

My perception (from left of centre) is also that the backers of parties of the right, generally understand the dangers of a split and use their monetary influence to bring people back into line.

Aznar is fascinating as well of course because you can't help but wonder where the line is between his intrinsic beliefs and his new role as Special Ambassador Plenipotentiary of the United States Right-Wing to Europe...

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:28:38 AM EST
Well, now that Maria San Gil is leaving the PP I think the likelihood of a schism is a bit higher.

Maybe there are some parallels here with the case of Rosa Díez, also a prominent Basque female politician, former contender for the Basque Socialist leadership, one of four candidates for PSOE leader in the 2000 Congress where ZP won the contest, and a PSOE MEP until recently when she quit the PSOE over longstanding disagreement with ZP's ETA policy and founded a new party Unity Progress and Democracy which earned her a seat in Parliament from Madrid.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 05:48:05 PM EST
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applause....

Rajoy will stay this year... but what about two years from now....? it all depends on the RW media..

If the media  falls in line, Rajoy will go to the next election.

if the hardliners can keep buying the media he will have a serious fight within two years.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 12:29:35 PM EST
Two good news today: the arrest in Bordeaux of the presumed ETA head "Thierry" with some other etarras and Maria San Gil leaving PP.

The perception of the government's line will be the same. During the "peace process" they pursued hard ETA and Batasuna, but the negotiators. After Barajas bomb, the Audiencia Nacional is pursuing harder the political supporters of ETA. Look to the mayor of Arrasate, she is jail for not condemning Elías Carrasco assassination (they'll use apology of terrorism or whatever thing).

I think that most parties in Spain have hard fights inside the party, and one of the main reasons is precisely ETA. ETA gives fresh air to hard-liners and at the same time doesn't let make policy in the ordinary way to anyone, it perverts the democracy in lots of fronts: MSM, justice system, ordinary life for lots of politicians and judges, hate and fear in military and police, and their families. It distorts the relations between lots of people.

During the "peace process", I think that most Basques expected to see some prisoners of ETA in Basque Country prisons or around before Christmas, but i didn't happen and, as always, hard-liners in ETA won. I think that ZP was too tied by PP opposition and MSM noise, and at the same time Batasuna people was desperating. Barajas bomb broke everything.

The only good is that the fracture of Spain discourse and the police end of ETA, didn't got a victory in elections to PP.

Catalan people rewarded to PSOE the new estatut and Basque people rewarded PSOE the attempt of a peace process.

The problem, anyway, is that the 10-12 percent of Basque society supports ETA indirectly, supporting Batasuna, and its leaders haven't enough courage to leave ETA alone and condemn openly its violence, and want to use leverage in their negotiations.

On the other hand, there are about a thousand prisoners spread out as far as possible from Basque Country, making their families lives harder. A very dubious Tribunal called Audiencia Nacional, a very hard division between judges of all levels...

The only way to win a war against this 10-12 percent people is through more democracy, not with less. But ETA makes it very very hard.

The rest live well enough with this low level intensity violence, and you know, if you are not suffering too much political tactics work for their own interest.

We basques are only a 5 percent of Spain, but distort a lot Spanish political parties' ordinary strategics.

The fights inside PP are interesting, but we'll see if Mariano wins in a couple of years. I doubt it.

Good night!

by kukute on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 04:58:59 PM EST
Whoa, Maria San Gil is leaving the PP?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 21st, 2008 at 05:03:39 PM EST
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Is this good, bad or just plain ugly?

On the one hand, I like the perspective of a right-wing party losing seats because an internal schism reduces their ability to play the electoral game. That seems to have largely been the providence of the left until now.

On the other hand, I cannot help but worry that an extremist wingnut party will drag the Overton window kicking and screaming to the right.

- Jake

Your representatives may not listen to you. But they do read your e-mail.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 08:11:45 AM EST
An extremist wingnut party wouldn't be a new developent, the new development would be a party of the centre-right.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 23rd, 2008 at 06:26:25 PM EST
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