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Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:46:51 PM EST

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:47:32 PM EST
Europeans Mark Democratic Endgame With Yawns and Scorn | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 03.06.2008
European papers largely ignored the final hours of the Democratic primary. Those papers which did cover the campaigning seemed glad it would soon be over, and offered some (almost) final thoughts on the loser.

Maybe it was the summer weather, or the fact that the outcome was nearly certain, but Europeans were hardly riveted by the final round of Obama versus Clinton in Montana and South Dakota.

The daily La Stampa in Turin, Italy seemed to wistfully long for a stop to what it called the "primary carrousel."

"From the perspective of logic and common sense, this has to be the end of the battle between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton -- the battle that has colored American politics since January and gotten harder and nastier every day," wrote that paper's editorialist.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:49:34 PM EST
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It's not so much that it became nastier, more that it looked more and more that it would be settled not by voters, but by lawyers and party grandees. That was the fear, that the Democratic Party Primary process was just as broken as Florida 2000's or Ohio 2004's.

That what had looked like a bruising and testing process would degenrate messily and unsatisfactorily, pleasing nobody and pissing off nearly everybody.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:47:06 PM EST
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Economy Grows More than Expected Despite Inflation Fears | Business | Deutsche Welle | 03.06.2008
Despite signs of slowing global economic growth and resurgent inflation, the European economy grew more than expected during the first quarter, according to data released Tuesday, June 3.

The 15-member euro zone economy grew by 0.8 percent quarter-on-quarter during the first three months of the year, the European Union's statistics office said, with rising investment and inventories resulting in an annual 2.2-percent growth rate in the first quarter.

 

This added to signs that the economy built around the euro has so far managed to withstand the fallout from the world financial market and credit crisis.

 

Despite the strong euro, euro zone exports rose 1.9 percent during the first quarter, with investments growing by 1.6 percent. However, private consumption edged up only a marginal 0.2 percent, the statistics office said.

 

The euro zone grew by 2.6 percent last year. Economists had expected the data would show the Euro zone economy growing by 0.7 percent during the first quarter.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:51:53 PM EST
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IMF raises its growth forecast for eurozone

Eurozone growth has proved unexpectedly brisk in spite of global economic storms, the International Monetary Fund admitted yesterday, as it conceded that its 2008 forecast would have to be revised significantly higher.

Growth across the 15country bloc would average about 1.75 per cent this year, the IMF said in its latest report on the region. After recent "shocks" unwound, growth would rebound in late 2009 "making for a mild slowdown by the standards of recent history". The tone contrasted with its mood just two months ago, when it had expected just 1.4 per cent growth this year.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:48:06 PM EST
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Impertinent Eurozone!

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:53:44 PM EST
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;-)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:15:21 PM EST
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Despite the strong euro, euro zone exports rose 1.9 percent during the first quarter, with investments growing by 1.6 percent.

Maybe europe needs more reform

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:48:28 PM EST
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You know perfectly well that we owe all our achievements to reform.

Even if the Germans are going wimpish, Sarkozy is transforming France at a great pace, which no doubt explains these growth numbers. (At least, that's what Sarko will say tomorrow morning).

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:14:20 PM EST
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I always think of "reform school" when I see that word, the place where they send Juvenile delinquents to punish them for their burgeoning life of crime, and which acts as a sort of finishing school for that life.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 07:34:40 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Europe | Greece sees first gay 'marriage'

The mayor of a Greek island has defied the threat of prosecution to carry out the country's first gay "marriages".

Two men and two women were "married" by Tassos Alfieris in the ceremonies on the eastern Aegean island of Tilos.

Mr Alfieris conducted the proceedings despite Greece's top prosecutor having issued a directive saying that same-sex weddings were outlawed.

One of the women involved, Evangelia Vlami, was bubbling with excitement as she told the BBC she was "so happy".

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:55:48 PM EST
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hooray !! I hope it stays settled, I don't know who these conservatives think they're helping by increasing the sum total of human bigotry.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:49:38 PM EST
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These gay marriages are what is ruining the institution of marriage-it ruined mine, nunc pro tunc, 34 years ago.  Heh.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 07:36:17 PM EST
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What's really bizarre is the mayors from towns on other islands claiming that good families and couples don't want to see homosexual couples while they are on vacation in the Greek Islands. One was a mayor in Rhodes.

Has that guy been to a beach in Rhodes?

I don't think gay couples are a rare thing on Greek islands. In fact, having gay couples may be a change from the gay party set on those islands.

As for good and nice families, ummm, yeah, they are getting baked like red lobsters and singing loud soccer songs on your streets.

by Upstate NY on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 09:39:05 PM EST
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Depends on your definition of "good" and "nice" doesn't it?

One of the ironic things I've noticed working with children is that those from a strictly religious background can be a lot more sexually aware at a younger age.

I think it's because sex is pointed out to them all the time.  This is why we're better than them and so forth.

It always sort of washed over my children.  A same sex couple holding hands was about as interesting as a mixed sex couple holding hands, i.e. not at all.

by Sassafras on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 03:08:03 AM EST
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Do they still have various pornographic items on display in each and every tourist shop in Greece ? They did in the early '90s...

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 04:20:09 AM EST
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Chinese Firms See Eastern Europe as EU Market Springboard | Business | Deutsche Welle | 01.06.2008
A Chinese food company opened its first European plant earlier this week in a Czech village, seeking to turn the sleepy spot into a launching pad for its European and North American expansion.

State-owned Shanghai Maling Food Company plans to bring its Chinese-style fare -- luncheon meat, canned pork, ham and ready-to-eat meals -- to Western countries, where product standards and import restrictions hamper imports coming directly from China.

Helped by Czech tax breaks and using European meat, Maling plans to produce 10,000 tons a year at its 400-million-koruny (16.5 million-euro, $25.4-million) plant, production manager Jiri Vancura said.

"They need to be somewhere in the EU so the plant meets all the standards," he said. "They otherwise can't export to the markets where they want to -- and once used to -- be."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:58:35 PM EST
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Man, that's so ironic

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:50:36 PM EST
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EU standard Chinese Spam.

This is setting off minor fireworks in my frontal lobes. And who invented fireworks?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:18:23 PM EST
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Business as usual, really. What's so different? Why the surprise?
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 07:05:10 PM EST
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Actually the fireworks were set off by the dissonance I perceive between the excellence of Chinese cuisine and the proposed luncheon-meat-associated products (duly stamped EU standard for added fun).

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 01:32:56 AM EST
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Try seeing it from another perspective.  A giant Chinese construction company wanted to diversify into the Chinese windpower market.  They actually took the effort to discover a bankrupt German blade manufacturer with some interesting technology.  The Chinese company wanted a complete technology transfer, and ended up buying the German company.

Two years later the new Chinese blade facility (in China) is turning out high quality rotor blades on a significant scale.  More significantly, the reborn German company, now SINOI, has restarted operations at its facility in the former DDR.  Good for the local economy, and adding diversity to the European wind market.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 07:28:01 PM EST
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Railway Company Deutsche Bahn Accused of Spying | Business | Deutsche Welle | 03.06.2008
The snooping scandal that has rocked Deutsche Telekom threatens to engulf another German concern. Railway company Deutsche Bahn reportedly employed the same firm that spied on journalists and executives for Telekom.

A spokesman for Deutsche Bahn (DB) confirmed that the firm had used the services of security consultants Network Deutschland, business daily Handelsblatt reported.

The managing director of Network Deutschland, Ralph Kuehn, last week admitted analyzing illegally acquired telephone data on behalf of Deutsche Telekom. The telecommunications giant has conceded spying on communications between executives and journalists in 2005 and possibly in 2006. Company CEO Rene Obermann, who denies any knowledge of the activities, has called in prosecutors to investigate the case.

Despite acknowledging the engagement of Network Deutschland by Deutsche Bahn, the DB spokesman stressed that there had been "no illicit surveillance of staff or non-staff." He said that external experts had worked on individual cases as part of the company's strict anti-corruption program. 

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:59:38 PM EST
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German Rail Implicated: Telekom Spies Also Worked for Deutsche Bahn - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

German national railway Deutsche Bahn has been accused of spying on its employees. According to a business daily, the company hired the same detective agency Deutsche Telekom used to spy on journalists.

 Deutsche Bahn may have been caught spying. It looks like telecommunications giant Deutsche Telekom may not have been the only German mega-company to have hired an outside detective agency to spy on its employees. On Tuesday, the financial daily Handelsblatt reported that the German rail company Deutsche Bahn may have done the same -- and used the same agency that Telekom did.

A spokesperson for Deutsche Bahn told the paper that the company had a business relationship with the detective agency Network Deutschland GmbH, one of the companies Telekom had hired to sort through telephone records looking for contacts between journalists and supervisory board members. The Bahn spokesperson, however, said that nothing illegal had taken place.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:03:02 PM EST
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Europeans to face tighter travel rules  - EUobserver

The US is set to further tighten its border security in a move that will see all Europeans - currently enjoying a visa-free regime with Washington - registering online before flying across the Atlantic.

According to the Financial Times, US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff will announce on Tuesday (3 June) the creation of an electronic registration system, designed to collect data on passengers no later than 72 hours before their departure

Washington says that an online registration form will require the same amount of information as is currently provided by all travellers by filling out the I-94 immigration form. The subsequent authorisation to travel should be valid for multiple entries for two years.

"History has shown that it is naive to assume a traveller from a [visa waiver] country automatically constitutes a lesser threat than a visa applicant who has undergone greater scrutiny prior to travel,", an US official was cited as saying by the FT.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:00:34 PM EST
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We've known about this before. What's the point of a visa waiver if the US can refuse you the right to fly within a few hours of your trip? I'd rather apply for a visa. That way, if I don't get it I know well in advance and I don't have to waste my time planning the trip - or my money buying the tickets.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:04:11 PM EST
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It's a lot easier to not go there at all

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:52:03 PM EST
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..and if you can convince the EU to open immigration to Americans all the interesting people over here will come to you
by paving on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:32:54 PM EST
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But being uncertain about your visa waiver is a reason to be refused a visa... ;-)
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 06:03:37 PM EST
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All I know is I'm not going.

By the way, and this is what the Czech Republic got in exchange for hosting the missile shield?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 06:06:43 PM EST
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Election violence threatens Macedonia's EU ambitions  - EUobserver

Gun battles and reports of voting irregularities in Sunday's elections in EU candidate Macedonia may have scuppered the Balkan country's near-term accession hopes, analysts warn.

Slovenia, which currently holds the bloc's six-month rotating presidency, said the EU "deeply deplored that violence and intimidation accompanied elections in parts of the country."
EU enlargement commissioner Olli Rehn called on Macedonian authorities to "to duly investigate all reported incidents and bring the perpetrators to justice."
Free and fair elections are "an essential part of the political criteria of the EU accession process," he said.
The centre-right Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organisation-Democratic Party for Macedonian National Unity (VMRO-DPMNE) of prime minister Nikola Gruevski is claiming it won 48 percent of votes, which would give his coalition a majority in parliament.


by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:01:23 PM EST
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Eurozone buries French fuel tax cut plan - EUobserver

Finance ministers from the 15 eurozone countries in Frankfurt on Monday (2 June) buried France's proposal for Europe-wide fuel tax cuts, despite ongoing strike action across the EU.

"There's no question of putting fiscal measures in place to offset soaring oil prices," the eurogroup chairman, Luxembourg's Jean-Claude Juncker said after the meeting, AFP reports.

The soaring cost of fuel has seen protests across Europe in the past four weeks

German, Dutch and Spanish finance chiefs also put the boot in. "France already has a few problems in its budget ... so cutting taxes will not necessarily make it easier," the Netherlands' Wouter Bos stated.

The ministers predicted oil prices will remain high and said other relief measures may need to be put in place, however. Mr Juncker indicated that Brussels may seek ways to discourage speculative trading on oil.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:02:27 PM EST
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Bad eurozone!

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:05:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Impertinent eurozone!

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:49:17 PM EST
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Pert erotozone!

(No, what am I talking about..?)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:22:00 PM EST
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Do you mean zone eurogène?

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:29:06 AM EST
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Now we're talking!

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:30:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That would be a one-armed bandit you stroke until you get the jackpot?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:53:56 AM EST
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I do not know anything about finances. And the news give me fear. Now I have a dilemma: Do I spending my money on arrangements teeth (and I am without eating) or I spending money on buying food and I am without eating because of my teeth? I am afraid that two things can not be done at once.

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.
by PerCLupi on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 12:43:51 AM EST
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My upper canine root canals were fixed by a Transylvanian dentist.

I no longer pay for food.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:37:41 AM EST
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I'll seek one. In addition, I sleep badly and I often awake at night. That would be fine.

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.
by PerCLupi on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 04:13:51 AM EST
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I do know that Bulgarian dentists cost a fraction of what htye cost in the west. i know a friend who had some work done that would have cost her a considerable amount here and she said that even flying backwards and forwards a couple of times it was very much worth it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 06:53:50 AM EST
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There's a lot of variation even in the west. I needed some emergency work a few years ago in Glauchau (Eastern Germany), and was relieved when I found out how cheap it would be. I mentioned my previous crown, that I had got in NYC (around $2000, when the dollar was still worth something; fortunately I had decent insurance), and still remember the look of awe on the dentists face as he looked at that crown...
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 07:22:21 AM EST
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Were they in awe because of the quality of the crown, or because you had been ripped off?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 07:47:43 AM EST
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At the price, I'm sure. I wasn't being ripped off - maybe my insurance company was, but I'm not sure that paying the going rate counts as being ripped off. I'm not even sure who was doing the ripping off; my dentist probably had to pay rent for his NY office, after all.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 08:52:17 AM EST
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 Wed 04/06/08 14:45 (UPDATE) - Several hundred fishermen, mainly from Southern Europe, are protested in the streets around the European institutions in Brussels today. The fishermen were in Brussels to express their concern about spiralling fuel prices.

deredactie.be - English - Fishermen protest in Brussels

They believe that the European Union has been indifferent to the plight of many fishermen that are unable to cope as a result of the recent sharp rises in the price of diesel.

The police used water cannon as the demonstration threatened to turn violent.

Several windows in buildings occupied by the European Union were broken by the demonstrators.
     
 


The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 09:04:04 AM EST
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Europe's Competitive Advantage: Younger Fleets Boost Non-US Airlines - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

The aging planes of United, American, and Delta guzzle more gas and make the US carriers more vulnerable to soaring oil prices -- and to their global competitors.

 The fleets of many US airlines are several years older than their European counterparts. For a look at one of the biggest headaches facing US airlines, head out to Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport any day and watch the big jets taking off for the US. There goes United Airlines to Chicago, American Airlines to Boston, Delta Air Lines to Atlanta, and Air France to New York's John F. Kennedy airport.

What's the big deal? Many of the US carriers' planes are Boeing 767s, a model that dates from the mid-1980s. Most Air France-KLM planes are at least a decade younger -- and a lot more fuel-efficient. According to US Transportation Dept. data, the Airbus A330 model that Air France flies between Paris and JFK burns an average 12 percent less fuel per passenger than the 767 does on a similar flight.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:03:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
They actually still have DC9s!


Northwest speeds up DC-9 reduction

Northwest plans to ground one quarter of its DC-9 jets this year as part of a fleet downsizing. (...)

By the end of the year, NWA expects to have 68 DC-9s in its fleet, down from the current 92. The airline had already planned to eliminate some DC-9s this year, but the new projection accelerates that effort. "Everybody is evaluating fleet in the face of current oil prices," (...) NWA's "fleet of DC-9s, which had interiors remodeled in the 1990s, average about 35 years old and are less fuel efficient than newer models. As oil prices climb, the carrier is hoping to save some money by grounding them."



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:52:38 PM EST
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The big US carriers use those old junkers for short haul flights (say 600 miles or less). Domestic flights beyond that generally use A319s, A320s, 757-300s (a pretty recent rev), or 737-800s (also pretty recent). The smaller carriers like southwest prefer the 737-800s, and I think southwest uses them exclusively.

I haven't been on a Northwest DC-9, thankfully. They had a nose gear collapse on one a few years ago at MSP while it was taxiing. Ugh.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 06:02:23 PM EST
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Well, if you didn't have chapter 11 support, all the old airlines would have gone bust and been replaced by efficient companies that replaced (and serviced) their aircraft properly.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:58:53 PM EST
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Demonstrations in Paris and London over fuel prices - International Herald Tribune

PARIS: Truckers and taxi drivers slowed traffic around a Paris business district to a crawl Tuesday in a protest over rising fuel prices, and hundreds of fishermen demonstrated in London to demand government help.

Dozens of trucks and taxis in Paris drove slowly toward and around the headquarters of the oil giant Total in La Défense, site of the main financial district on the western edge of the city, to protest a new tax on heavily polluting vehicles.

The authorities said the operation snarled traffic on several highways.

Farmers elsewhere in France blocked ports and oil terminals as part of protests started by fishermen last month demanding government aid to help mitigate high fuel costs.

Fishermen from throughout Britain demonstrated in central London on Tuesday to demand their government's help in coping with soaring fuel prices.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:09:36 PM EST
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One problem with populist politicians who won't tell the public the truth is that when reality bites the public in the bum, the public blame politicians as if they can do something about it.

Lowering taxes won't make any difference. And just bugger up finely tuned public finances

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:01:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | Europe | Moscow Diary: Changing climate

Apart from dismaying fans of winter sports, climate change could alter the whole of Russia's traditional way of life, the BBC's James Rodgers reports. His diary is published fortnightly.

A CHANGE OF OUTLOOK?

"Go out into the street and see!"

Russia's Deputy Economics Minister, Andrei Belousov, was talking to reporters ahead of the St Petersburg International Economic Forum, which begins later this week.

Could Russia's famously fierce winters become a thing of the past?

I had asked why climate change was one of the items topping the agenda - Russia isn't a country where the issue gets much attention in public debate.

Two consecutive warm winters have dismayed Muscovites. Conditions for skiing and skating can no longer be counted on as once they could.

But, on the other hand, Moscow's pavement coffee shops and bars have been opening earlier in the year.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 12:48:16 AM EST
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Rise of Rachida Dati: The minister, the 'virgin bride' and the row that's dividing a nation - Europe, News - The Independent

Two decades ago Rachida Dati, a French daughter of north African immigrants, got married to a man that she barely knew. It was not quite an arranged marriage. It was a marriage "to please her family". She immediately regretted her decision. She persuaded her Algerian husband to agree to an instant annulment.

Rachida Dati was in her early twenties at the time and making her way as a young lawyer and businesswoman in Paris. Through hard work, as a law student and by taking menial jobs, she had already fought her way clear of her impoverished, immigrant family of 11 brothers and sisters just north of Lyons.

Two decades later, Mme Dati is France's first senior minister of north African origin. She is a protégée of President Nicolas Sarkozy. She has been catapulted without previous experience - and her enemies insist without any political skills - into one of the most senior and potentially explosive jobs in French government. As Justice Minister, she has already made several mistakes and many enemies, not least among her own political "allies". She is resented especially by several experienced, male, white, centre-right politicians who think that they have a superior claim to her plum job.

President Sarkozy calls her a "symbol" of his attempts to break down racial and social and gender barriers in France. As a symbol, he has told her several times, she has "no right to fail".

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 12:48:53 AM EST
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Dati is not the first. Just because Sarkozy claims it does not make it true.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:55:32 AM EST
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The article provides a relatively dispassionate examination of the issues invovled in the recent virgin bride divorce case.

M. X, an engineer in his 30s, and recent convert to a strict reading of the Koran, married Mlle Y, a nursing student in her 20s. Before they were married, she promised him that she was a virgin. On their marriage night, M. X stormed out of their bedroom to protest to the wedding party - still in progress - that his wife had lied to him. She was not a virgin.

Under Article 180 of the French civil code, a marriage partner can demand an annulment if his or her spouse fails to fulfil an "essential" part of their pre-wedding agreement.

The court's decision was made public late last week. It was made clear that the crucial point was not the bride's lack of virginity but her lack of truthfulness. She had misled her partner. "Married life began with a lie, which is contrary to the reciprocal confidence between the married parties," the court ruled.

There followed an explosion of outrage and political posturing - partly understandable but partly exaggerated and based on deliberate, or lazy, misrepresentation of the facts of the case.

The Lille court, it was alleged, had decided that virginity was an "essential quality" in a bride. (No it hadn't). In a country rooted in secular principles, this was a dangerous slide towards "sharia law" (No it wasn't).

Fadela Amara, the minister for France's troubled multi-racial suburbs, a courageous campaigner against sexism in immigrant communities, said the court ruling was a "fatwa against the emancipation of women". Dounia Bouzar, an anthropologist and the author of books on Islam in Europe, said: "It's a victory for fundamentalists and a victory for those who look at Islam as an archaic religion that treats women badly... I'm sure the judge wanted to be respectful to Islam. Instead, the decision was respectful to fundamentalists."

The ruling can be read that way. Fundamentalist Islam does not demand virgin bridegrooms, only virgin brides. The judgement is also, however, a fairly logical application of France's existing marriage law. Several devout Catholic spouses have won similar annulments on the grounds that their partner had lied to them and concealed a previous divorce. Devout Catholics have a right, under French law, to demand undivorced spouses. That does not mean that French courts disapprove of divorce.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 06:49:24 AM EST
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La Repubblica | 3.6.08

Venezia, un kit antiminerale Bevete l' acqua di sorgente:
Il kit è spartano: una bottiglietta di plastica vuota e una mappa della città che indica le 122 fontanelle disseminate nei vari sestieri di Venezia. Ma sarà più che sufficiente per garantire, alle migliaia di turisti in transito sotto il solleone, una sorsata d' acqua fresca senza spendere un euro. è l' iniziativa "100x100 pubblica" che lancia il Comune giovedì 5 giugno in occasione della Giornata Mondiale per l' Ambiente. è una campagna contro il consumo dell' acqua minerale che incide in modo pesante sui bilanci familiari. Gli italiani sono infatti i primi consumatori al mondo di acqua in bottiglia.The kit is Spartan: a plastic bottle empty and a city map showing the 122 water stations scattered across sestieri Venice. But it will be more than enough to ensure the thousands of tourists in transit under the sunshine, a sorsata d 'fresh water without spending one euro. is the 'initiative "100x100 public" that runs the Municipality on Thursday June 5 on the occasion of World Day for' Environment. is a campaign against the consumption of 'mineral water which impacts so heavily on family budgets. The Italians are the first consumer in the world of bottled water.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 03:54:26 AM EST
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WORLD
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:48:09 PM EST
Western biofuel policies 'incomprehensible,' says UN - EUobserver

A UN summit in Rome gathering together world leaders and food and agriculture experts has seen a showdown on EU and US biofuels policies and agricultural subsidies.

One UN official called the policies "incomprehensible," while development organisations and the biofuels industry campaigned fiercely to try to influence the meeting's outcome.

In an impassioned speech, Jacques Diouf, the director-general of the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation told some 60 heads of state that it is "incomprehensible...that subsidies worth €7-8 billion ($11-12 billion) in 2006 were used to divert 100 million tonnes of cereals from human consumption mostly to satisfy a thirst for fuels for vehicles."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:51:24 PM EST
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[Murdoch Alert] World food supply must rise 50%, Ban Ki Moon tells Rome summit (June 3, 2008)
A United Nations summit on resolving the world's food crisis opened this morning with a call from Ban Ki-moon, the UN Secretary General, for world farm production to rise by 50 per cent by 2030 to meet growing demand.

He called on leaders to lower export restrictions and import tariffs on food with immediate effect to avoid further hunger and malnutrition, which have caused riots in several Third World countries.

The three day summit, organised by the Rome-based UN Food and Agriculture Organization, follows massive food price rises over the past three years. Analysts blame the diversion of crops to make biofuel, drought and natural disasters, fuel costs, and speculation.

50% by 2030!

Can we make a list of all the international targets we're setting for ourselves?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:53:53 PM EST
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sounds much like the prognoses for oil production - and indeed, it is similarly based on following expected demand growth and supposing that supply will somehow follow.

Maybe we will have to go through the same slow process of shouting that it is an absurd number, being mocked, until they acknowledge reality.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:54:39 PM EST
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Reuters via The Guardian (UK): Food summit blames trade barriers, queries biofuel (June 3 2008)
A United Nations summit on the global food crisis called on Tuesday for reducing trade barriers and the scrapping of food export bans to help stop the spread of hunger that threatens nearly one billion people.

"Nothing is more degrading than hunger, especially when man-made," United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon told the Rome summit, where the United States and Brazil defended biofuel production from charges that it pushes up world food prices.

...

"Some countries have taken action by limiting exports or by imposing draft controls," he said. This "distorts markets and forces prices even higher. I call on nations to resist such measures and to immediately release exports designated for humanitarian purposes".




When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:58:01 PM EST
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Fran:
In an impassioned speech, Jacques Diouf, the director-general of the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation told some 60 heads of state that it is "incomprehensible...that subsidies worth €7-8 billion ($11-12 billion) in 2006 were used to divert 100 million tonnes of cereals from human consumption mostly to satisfy a thirst for fuels for vehicles."

Has anyone told Piebalgs?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 07:32:12 AM EST
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This is what he said in March...

Commissioner Andris PIEBALGS: Biofuels and food - regaining a sense of proportion (March 28, 2008)

... It would be unrealistic to impose sanctions on car producers and users if no alternatives are provided. ...

...

Biofuels, have become a scapegoat for recent commodity price increases that have other causes - poor harvests worldwide and growing food demand generated by increased standards of living in China and India. In Europe, we use less than 2 percent of our cereals production for biofuels, so they do not contribute significantly to higher food prices in the European context. Even if we reach our 10% biofuels target by 2020, the price impact will be small. Our modeling suggests that it will cause a 8 to 10% increase in rape seed prices and 3 to 6% increase in cereal prices. Increase in the price of the latest has very small influence on the cost of bread. It makes up around 4 per cent of the consumer price of a loaf.

Moreover, since biofuels have as a co-product food for animals, you gain both a fuel and feed benefit from the same crop which will help displace land area used to grow dedicated feed crops like soybean, as well as helping produce a reduction in the price of animal feed. Every ton of wheat grown for biofuels produces a third of a ton of bioethanol and a third of a ton of animal feed. ... Over the past 30 years, Europe's farmers have stood accused, through their association with the Common Agricultural Policy, of over-producing and dumping their surpluses with the aid of massive export subsidies on over supplied world markets, therefore depressing market prices and contributing massively to poverty and starvation in poor countries. That criticism has now been reversed. The charge now is that EU biofuel policy will contribute to third world poverty by driving food prices up. My impression from this debate sometimes is that we the Europeans know best what is good for people in developing world. Let them speak for themselves.

Is it worth asking him whether he'd reconsider his famous position
I myself drive an ethanol-powered Saab 9-5 and certainly I would not even think of it if I had the slightest suspicion that I'm contributing in any way to global warming, or, even worse, to an international genocide.
in the light of these remarkf from the FAO conference?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 07:46:38 AM EST
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Did your comment get published?

If 'no' - there's your answer.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:44:29 PM EST
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It did - though I doubt he moderates the comments himself so he may not have read it.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:46:24 PM EST
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Oil prices: George Soros warns that speculators could trigger stock market crash | Business | guardian.co.uk

George Soros, the billionaire hedge fund manager, will warn later today that the oil price has become a bubble that could trigger a stock market crash.

The Financial Times reported today that Soros will tell the US Senate commerce committee that oil was pushed to its recent all-time peak of $135 a barrel by a new wave of speculators.

He believes that the doubling in the price over the last year is partly due to investment institutions, such as pension funds, who are pumping money into indexes that track the cost of crude.

According to the FT, Soros will warn that there could be very serious consequences for global stock markets if the institutions suddenly began betting on a fall in the oil price.

He compares it with the stock market crash of 1987, which was partly caused by a sudden rush of money into portfolio insurance - which institutions used to protect themselves against a fall in share prices.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:53:24 PM EST
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very nice to see Jean-Claude Juncker is already on the case, saying:


The ministers predicted oil prices will remain high and said other relief measures may need to be put in place, however. Mr Juncker indicated that Brussels may seek ways to discourage speculative trading on oil.


Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:20:32 PM EST
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to say indirectly that prices should not really be this high, and will go down soonish, ie that no serious change is needed.

This is not a systemic crisis, move on, etc...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:56:09 PM EST
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I've been meaning to say this: it is inconceivable that speculation is not creating a bubble in oil prices. I just don't believe the system works that way. Now, I think the underlying price is probably something in the $80-$100 range anyway, which is a far cry from a few years ago, but I don't see how if there is an opportunity for speculative profits that there isn't a lot of money going that way.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:02:06 PM EST
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"it is inconceivable to me"
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:02:40 PM EST
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Speculation can accelerate trends, but not cause them. if prices were drivne by speculation, you'd see a lot more storage of oil happening (hoarding, effectively), which it isn't.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:18:18 PM EST
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Which means the oil price is past where it would be without the speculation?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:20:13 PM EST
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Once a trend establishes itself, speculators will decouple it from the fundametals. We've had over two years of solid price growth, so there you have it.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:28:11 PM EST
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The other issue is the extent to which short-term inelasticity is keeping the price higher than its "natural" level.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:21:10 PM EST
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Another thing is, that if only demand elasticity will change the price, the price controls and subsidies, which are in place from Egypt to China enforce all the demand destruction to take place in other countries and these other countries are those, which can in nominal terms pay damn high prices.
If the emerging oil-importing countries choose to stop subsidizing oil consume demand destruction will occur there. And even the oil exporting countries may find, that it is simply smarter to invest some money in efficiency, instead of celling gas at 5 cents.

Lich King/Caribou Barbie 08
Pain brings Katharsis
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 07:13:55 PM EST
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The question is whether $135 is overshooting already or not.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:22:17 PM EST
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It's riding on the installed base but from an energy cost POV, $135 / 87 &euro is a really poor deal.

For comparison sake, a barrel of oil is about 6.12 GJ / 1,700 KWh. At 87 &euro / bbl, that's 0.051 &euro / kWh, pretty much similar to the actual "bulk" cost of electricity in most Western countries for industrial users. So if you buy oil, you pay the same for an unrefined source of energy before including any conversion loss than you would pay for a similar amount of energy under the most versatile form and "low entropy" form there is.

The premium of portability offered by oil is really starting to be stiff.



Facts, selfish little bastards. They don't even care about your feelings.
by Francois in Paris on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:46:05 AM EST
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The premium of portability offered by oil is really starting to be stiff.

As it should be, because portability is a huge advantage.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:49:43 AM EST
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As it should be, because portability is a huge advantage.

No, certainly not.

Not at this price once you factor conversion losses in portable applications, 70% to 80% for oil vs. ~20% for a battery/electrical engine set.

Cost of 1 kWh of portable energy actually delivered, assuming 300 recharges a year and equivalent "stored" in gasoline:

  • Electricity = 1 kWh / (100% - 20%) = 1.25 kWh stored x 300 times =   375 kWh
  • Oil = 1 kWh / (100% - 80%) = 5 kWh stored x 300 times = 1,500 kWh
  • Delta = 1,125 kWh / year @ 0.05 €/kWh* = 56.25 € / year for 1 kWh worth of transportable energy.

(* For reference, night-time electricity in France for individuals is 0.0661 €/kWh, close to the generic "bulk" 0.05€/kWh I'm using)

Assuming a 10 years system lifetime, the cost of storage has to be at 562.5 €/kWh delivered, 450 €/kWh stored (20% losses) to break even. Usual trade-off, pay up-front vs. hurt later.

Except where weight is a very strong limit (planes, duh) or daily recharges are cumbersome (long haul trucks), batteries are getting in that area.

For reference, that sep 2007 article (see last page) gives the following costs:

  • $40 to $50/kWh for lead-acid.
  • $350/kWh for NiMH in small portable appliances.
  • $450/kWh for LiIon in small portable appliances.
  • $700/kWh for the fast cycling NiMH batteries used in current hybrids, which far more are punishing on their low capacity batteries than an EV would be for its much larger batteries.

The first EV LiIon productions will be more expensive because of manufacturing setup and so on, but not intrinsically because of technology. So we can assume $600/kWh / 400€/kWh for EV LiIon in mass production as of today's technology. Double that again because LiIon batteries are actually used at 50% of their rated charge.

That's 800€/kWh stored and available, as of today.

Not there yet but not that far off.

And it's a very rough calculation I used above, bulk industrial pre-tax vs. bulk industrial pre-tax. I'm not factoring the ICE cost for oil, nor efficiency gains from regenerative breaking in EV, nor even transformation and distribution costs and taxes, not to say a word of the geo-strategic costs of buying oil and of the  assorted trade deficit, the health and environmental cost of ICE emissions,  etc. And I'm not even factoring the worth of being able to tell the Saudis to fuck off in hell : priceless.

So, yes, oil has overshot. Badly. It's on its way out and not because we're running out of it.

Facts, selfish little bastards. They don't even care about your feelings.

by Francois in Paris on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 04:36:17 AM EST
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Can I ask you to put these kinds of calculations in a diary some time?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 05:21:08 AM EST
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Francois in Paris:
$40 to $50/kWh for lead-acid.

This seems very cheap for what's really rather a nasty technology.

Is that an installation cost, or a total lifecycle cost including sensible disposal?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:46:44 PM EST
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You don't dispose lead acid batteries! You recycle them!

And yes, it's really cheap for industrial type batteries - submarines, fixed back-up batteries, etc - but it's also very heavy and cumbersome with the liquid electrolyte, etc. It's just there for reference and it's inapplicable to small applications.

It's also very sensitive to lead cost. Assume ~15 kg Pb/kWh. Lead is on a huge ramp right-now from $500/$1000/tonne over the past two decades to nearly $3,000/tonne this year, AFAIK in large part because of demand for electrical mopeds in China.

http://www.ilzsg.org/static/stocksandprices.aspx?from=2


Facts, selfish little bastards. They don't even care about your feelings.

by Francois in Paris on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 03:33:39 PM EST
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when individual electric transport is available on a large scale. Unti lthen, you get to compare private car trips with public transport or other alternatives, and people seem to value one over the other quite a lot.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 02:56:59 AM EST
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If Western governments stick their fingers off their asses rather than "communicate" on greeny gooditude, it can happen in a few years.


Facts, selfish little bastards. They don't even care about your feelings.
by Francois in Paris on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 04:41:44 AM EST
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Well there's gonna be a crash if they don't fall, and now there'll be a crash if they do. Hmmm, what to do.....

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:13:54 PM EST
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It's just a different sector of the real or unreal economy that will crash...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 05:29:37 PM EST
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Leaders Trade Insults and Apportion Blame at Food Summit | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 03.06.2008
There was no shortage of acrimony at the two-day UN conference in Rome on the threats posed by rising food costs. Participants attacked the obese, protectionism, biofuels and two leaders many felt shouldn't attend.

The summit, which kicked off in the Italian capital on Monday, June 2, was called to address fears that rising food prices could leave up to one billion people in danger of malnutrition or starvation.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon attacked trade barriers imposed by India and China to protect their own citizens against the higher costs of rice and other foodstuffs.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 03:55:16 PM EST
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SPIEGEL ONLINE Interview with UN Expert: 'We're Only at the Beginning' of the Food Crisis - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

The UN's Food and Agriculture Organization is holding a summit in Rome this week to discuss the global food crisis. Assistant Director-General Alexander Müller speaks to SPIEGEL ONLINE about the rising oil prices, the risk of biofuels and how agriculture could be transformed to help tackle climate change.

 An orphan waits to receive food aid in Malawi.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: This week governments from across the world are gathering for a special summit in Rome to discuss the global food crisis. Why is the summit only being held now?

Alexander Müller: The 850 million people who have been going hungry for many years, mostly in remote rural areas, never had the power to draw attention to their plight. Now rising food prices are hitting entirely new sections of societies. People in towns are protesting and governments notice this immediately. The pressure is enormous.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: What is the main reason for food production no longer keeping up with demand?

Müller: Various factors, including very significantly the rising oil price. Traditional agriculture is itself very energy intensive: It needs oil for fertilizer, pesticides, tractors and transport. To get away from that, many governments are promoting fuels made from agricultural products. This is turn links the price of bread to the price of oil.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:05:52 PM EST
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UN official holds rich nations accountable for food shortages - International Herald Tribune

ROME: Resolving the global food crisis could cost as much as $30 billion a year, and wealthier nations are doing little to help developing nations face the problem, United Nations officials said here on Tuesday.

Jacques Diouf, director general of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization, convened a three-day summit meeting attended by dozens of world leaders. He sharply criticized wealthy nations who he said were cutting spending on agriculture programs for the world's poor and ignoring the loss of rain forests while spending billions on carbon markets, subsidies for their own farmers and biofuel production.

"The developing countries did, in fact, forge policies, strategies and programs that - if they had received appropriate funding - would have given us world food security," Diouf said, adding that the international community finally mobilized to help after images of food riots and hunger emerged in the media. He said there had been plenty of meetings on the need for anti-hunger programs and agricultural development in poor nations in the last decade, but not enough money to make them a reality.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:06:17 PM EST
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EU food chief: Lift BSE ban to cut grain prices - Times Online

The EU ban on the use of animal remains to feed pigs and chickens should be lifted so that grain can be diverted to millions of starving people, one of Europe's top food safety advisers has told The Times.

Patrick Wall, chairman of the European Food Safety Authority, questioned whether it was "morally or ethically correct" to feed grain to animals in the midst of a global food crisis.

He said that there was no scientific reason to maintain the ban.

More than 40 heads of state meet at an emergency UN food summit today to draw up an action plan over soaring food prices, which have led to riots in Haiti, Egypt, Mexico, Tanzania and Morocco. Prices for staples such as rice, soya and wheat have risen 83 per cent in three years, making them unaffordable in the poorest countries.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 at 04:07:05 PM EST
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The EU ban (due to BSE) on the use of animal remains to feed pigs and chickens should be lifted so that grain can be diverted to millions of starving people, one of Europe's top food safety advisers has told The Times.

I wasn't going to comment on this summit cos it seemed like a load of talking heads avoiding the obvious, but this made my eyes pop.

BSE/CJD came about as a direct result of feeding animal remains to other animals in the food chain. Despite protections which are still too often flouted cos of deregulated (ie dismantled) inspection, the disease is still there and animals that contract it have to be isolated.

If we go down this path again it will be yet another unbelievable act of grasping arrogance by the agro globcorp.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (