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European Championships 2008 - Predictions

by Helen
Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:07:47 AM EST

Okay, the European Football Championship start tomorrow so I guess that we should have a thread that's separate from the OTs so that it can hang around for a while.

Group games 7 - 18 June

Quarter finals 19 - 22 June

Semi-finals 25 - 26 June

Final 29th June

Predictions required for group qualifiers & winner.

Group A
Czech Republic
Portugal
Switzerland
Turkey

Group B
Austria
Croatia
Germany
Poland

Group C
France
Italy
Netherlands
Romania

Group D
Greece
Russia
Spain
Sweden

Betting odds in the UK, Germany are the favourites at 4/1, Spain are the narrow second favourites at best odds of 6/1, whilst Italy, Portugal and France are all available at odds of between 7/1 and 8/1.

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European Championships 2008 - Predictions | 56 comments (56 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Okay, I get to go first, so everyone can laugh

Group A : Portugal Turkey
Group B : Germany, Croatia
Group C : France, Italy
Group D : Spain, Russia

Winners, germany .

Fancied outsider : Croatia

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:10:16 AM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

if Croatia wins, does that mean that England weren't actually that bad and the press had it all wrong?

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:17:57 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

Oh no, England are bad. Really bad, truly terrible beyond belief. Clueless and predictable

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:31:25 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

hmmmm bash the clueless football team or the equally clueless media, decisions, decisions.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:00:02 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

In 1994 France failed to qualify to the world cup, beaten by Bulgaria and Sweden, which didn't seem that good at the time. They ended up playing the little final, ranked 3rd and 4th...

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 06:49:04 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

It wasn't the loss to Bulgaria in the final second, aux parc des princes...but the loss before it to israel, after leading at half-time 2-0, again at parc des princes, which showed yet another papin/cantona team unworthy of international play.

france had that group locked up. home loss to israel was nothing short of shameful.

good players on that team...as long as they played for money.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 08:00:08 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

"They laughed when I told them I wanted to be a comedian. They're not laughing now" (Bob Monkhouse)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:50:20 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

replace Holand for France.. and that's my bet

except for the winner.. I still do not know

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 08:10:51 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Holland? Where?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 09:04:32 AM EST
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It's the Netherlands (none / 1)

{snigger} nanne and nomad will be after you

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 09:51:45 AM EST
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To be fair... (none / 1)

Even for the most persistent linguist, it becomes impossible when the Netherlands enter the football pitch and all fans starts chanting "Hup Holland Hup". I might have slipped myself once. Or twice. Half the orange attributes carry "Holland" as slogan as well. No wonder people are still confused after 400 years.

Best to let this one slide...

The core of evil is a lack of empathy

by Nomad on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 01:20:09 PM EST
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Re: To be fair... (none / 0)

Sorry...

in spanish is Holanda.. so.. fast translation...

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 07:31:04 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

A)
Czech Republic
Portugal
B)
Croatia
Germany
C)
Italy
Netherlands
D)
Russia
Spain

I'll go for Spain (this time they are finally going to come good in amajor championship)

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:16:21 AM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Group A: Czech Republic, Portugal.
Group B: Germany, Croatia.
Group C: France, Italy.
Group D: Spain, Russia.

I don't see Spain making it past the quarter-finals against France or Italy.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:18:21 AM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Winner? Czech Republic.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:19:09 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 3)

Of course, marital harmony had nothing to do with this selection ;-)))

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:32:58 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Of course it didn't. Barbara couldn't care less about football. She should have arranged a get-together with her friends to watch the opening game, but I don't think that's happening.

How about we watch the game in my living room? Bring your own booze, of course.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:37:22 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Thanks for the offer, but I've already accepted a friends invitation in W London

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:55:56 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

I guess this means:

Quarter-finals:
Czech Republic to beat Croatia
Portugal to beat Germany
Russia to beat France
Italy to beat Spain

Semi-finals:
Czech Republic to beat Portugal
Russia to beat italy

Final:
Czech Republic to beat Russia

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:30:41 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

I am all for:

and have to admit, I have no idea about footbal. :-D

And you never know - miracles might happen.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:30:29 AM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Is Switzerland so bad, that you guys are not even giving it a chance in the first round?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 09:53:33 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

Don't tempt them, Fran. It'll only end in tears ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:52:18 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 3)

Switzerland began quite strongly against an apparently at-sleep Czech team. And Frei was dangerous. Then came the unlucky close encounter with Grygera...

Then the replacements of both Koller (Svěrkoš, who shot a nice goal with the outside of his right foot when the ball got back forward after a crappy corner shot) and Frei (Hakan Yakın, who had some good shots) were good ones, resulting in a much better second half - I am sorry for the Swiss side, their play would have deserved a 1:1, especially in that situation when first Barnetta shot into Čech, from whom the ball got to Vonlanthen, whose shot almost broke the crossbar...

Look forward to tonight's "South American" match!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 02:33:37 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 3)

The Czech Republic got lucky - they scored in the confusion when a corner kick got cleared. Other than that, they were more in control but had no reach. And the Swiss had an excellent start to both halves.

The way the second half started I though the Swiss were trying to "show them" for sending off Frei injured, and it almost worked.

Cech is awesome.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 02:40:03 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Greece will win again.

Too many players and fans are so concerned about playing "beautifully" and much less concerned about winning.

This is what I can never understand about soccer.

If you ask me, the Italian mentality is the best one.

by Upstate NY on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:37:40 AM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Well that might be a basic difference between US and Europe ;-)
If it were true.

What I think IS true though, is that the most appreciated football matches are those that are closely fought, that the players exhibit bravery as well as skill, and that there are dramatic twists in the match that add to the excitement.

These factors are not 'beautiful', but they can be aesthetic, in the dictionary definition of the word.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:48:01 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 3)

I'm tempted to troll-rate you - especially the last sentence :-)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 02:11:49 PM EST
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Mine comes in 2 versions (4.00 / 5)

Why 2 versions? Becomes it's more fun.

Blatantly Clockwork-Orange-going-to-beat-everyone-mode:
Group A:
Portugal
Switzerland
Group B:
Croatia
Germany
Group C
Netherlands
France
Group D
Sweden
Greece
Final: Netherlands vs Germany (of course)
Winner: Netherlands!!!!

The realistic one:
Group A
Portugal
Czech Republic
Group B
Germany
Croatia
Group C
Italy
Netherlands (typical scraping by victory)
Group D
Greece
Spain
Final: Italy vs Portugal
Winner: Italy

The core of evil is a lack of empathy

by Nomad on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 01:36:35 PM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Copying Nomad, two versions:

1) Judgement of chances, probably tainted by some wishful thinking:

Group A
Portugal
Czech Republic

Group B
Germany
Croatia

Group C
France
Netherlands

Group D
Russia
Spain

Final winner: Portugal

2) Cruel version:

Group A
Portugal
Switzerland (good defense)

Group B
Poland
Croatia
(Germany implodes due to team troubles)

Group C
Italy
Netherlands
(pre-tournament match really shows that France is again impotent at scoring)

Group D
Greece
Sweden

Final winner: Greece against Switzerland

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 02:21:18 PM EST

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Oh. And should Germany end up in Switzerland (which they will if they reach the semifinals, or already in the quarterfinals if they are runners-up in Group B), they should get the punishment for West Germany's referee-helped 1954 win...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 02:34:32 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

On a final note, I think no team can be truly written off except Austria. Of the 'small' teams, I think Romania (lots of good players and a good record) and Russia (UEFA win, Hiddink factor, keeping Croatia at bay) are the hottest. (I'm somehow sceptical about Croatia this time: too many old players, will be tired, and they had trouble on some recent matches.) However, poor Romania is in the Group of Death...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 07:11:28 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

High Expectations: Bookmakers Favor Germany to Win EURO 2008 - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

The German national football team wants to end a dismal 12-year run without a win when the EURO 2008 football championships start this weekend. Bookmakers have every confidence they will, making them favorites to clinch a fourth European title.
The bookmakers' favorite: Will Germany triumph at Euro 2008? You have to go back 12 long years since Germany last won a game at the European championships: Oliver Bierhoff's extra-time goal in the final of EURO 1996 in England against the Czech Republic sealed the victory for Germany and the country's third European championship title.
Since then, Germany has lost three matches and drawn three during its last two campaigns to win at Europe's biggest sporting event. Despite this dismal run, Germany is now the favorite with bookmakers to win the competition this year.
The high expectations of a German victory are in large part down to the luck of the draw -- the team will be playing against a weak lineup of countries during early matches, gifting the side a seemingly easy run to the quarterfinal. In the group stage the three-time champions take on Poland (more...), a team they have never lost to in 16 games, followed by Croatia who only beat them once in seven meetings and then co-hosts Austria whose last victory against Germany goes back to 1986.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 03:30:07 PM EST

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The Fight for European Soccer Supremacy Set to Begin | Sports | Deutsche Welle | 06.06.2008

The fight for the Henri Delaunay trophy begins on the field Saturday, June 7 when Euro co-hosts Switzerland kick off Euro 2008 against the Czech Republic at the St Jakob-Park stadium in Basle.
But some individual battles have already been fought and lost without a ball being kicked as teams try to gain a mental edge on opponents and the specter of a tournament-ruining injury plays heavily on the minds of Europe's top footballers ahead of the main event.
Misfortune has certainly struck world champions Italy, who have to do without captain Fabio Cannavaro after the defender suffered ankle ligament damage in training while Dutch winger Ryan Babel succumbed to a similar injury.
Cannavaro has decided to stay on in Austria and Switzerland to support his teammates during the June 7-29 tournament, starting for Italy with a mouthwatering Group C encounter against the Netherlands on Monday in Berne.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 04:48:44 PM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Prelims:
Portugal A1
Turkey A2
Germany B1
Croatia B2
France C1
Netherlands C2
Spain D1
Sweden D2

Quarters:
Portugal, Germany, France, Spain

Semis:
Portugal, France

Finals
France.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 06:10:24 PM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Hat tip to Uffe Ellemann-Jensen's comment, upon Denmark's defeat of Germany in the Euro Final 1992, all the while seeing Danish voters voting against Maastricht:

If you can't join them, beat them

I won a lot of money on the Euro 1992, being the only person in my office pool to pick Denmark, who only qualified when 1st place in group Serbia were banned for warcrimes and their place given to 2nd place Denmark.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 06:13:35 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 3)

All the games are on live in the US - schedule here for anyone interested. Going to be tough for me to see many of them.

No predictions here - I just want Italy to lose after watching the US v. Italy match in the 2006 world cup. It's been a long time since a sporting match resulted in a personal desire to commit violence.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 11:13:52 PM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 4)

It's been a long time since a sporting match resulted in a personal desire to commit violence.

Who said Americans can't understand football ;-)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 07:14:33 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

Hmm, I had forgotten that

Then there was a crucial turning point in the character of the game. Daniele De Rossi rose for a midfield challenge and hit Brian McBride under the left eye with what looked like an elbow.

But there is a precedent:

Humor and life's small ironies are probably lost on Mauro Tassotti right now. But as the Italian defender sits out the last days of the World Cup, banned for eight matches for elbowing Spain's Luis Enrique in the face, it might occur to him that he lists Ernest Hemingway's "A Farewell to Arms" as his preferred reading matter.

No love lost on Italy. They play ugly and dirty.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 07:22:10 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

They really know how to wage psychological warfare on the pitch, too...

BBC: Materazzi breaks Zidane silence (5 September 2006)

Marco Materazzi has finally explained what he said to Zinedine Zidane before he was headbutted by the Frenchman during Italy's World Cup final victory.
Zidane was sent off for the attack and later claimed he was provoked after Materazzi had insulted his mother.
But Materazzi told Gazzetta dello Sport that Zidane's sister was the subject.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 07:28:44 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

That elbow attack was just the most spectacular on a match better described as gladiator battle, overseen by a helpless referee.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 10:33:04 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

The level of thuggery and flopping was stunning.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 11:42:07 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Meh, I don't get ESPN Classic, so no soccer for me today, I guess. Have to wait for the ESPN2 games tomorrow.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 11:10:28 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

if you're on the right telco (evil, yes, support Net Neutrality) you can watch on espn360.com

I also recommend the TVU player, google it. channel 65264

by paving on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 06:15:52 PM EST
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I know how you feel (4.00 / 2)

Ha, ha. You, too?

You have no idea how happy I was to see that Italy lost to the Netherlands yesterday. I didn't care that it was the Netherlands (sorry, Nomad!), I was just happy that Italy lost.

ALL I wanted in 2006, after the group play was over, was to see Italy get eliminated, and so -- well, you know how THAT turned out.

"C'est bien vrai, n'est-ce pas, que les moutons mangent les arbustes?" — Le Petit Prince, Antoine de Saint Exupéry

by dconrad (dai {point} conrad {arobase} gmail {point} com) on Tue Jun 10th, 2008 at 04:49:47 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Okay, I'll bite on this...but since all the "experts" are picking Germany, I'll go another way too...

Group A

Portugal
Switzerland (have to support the home team!)

Group B

Germany
Poland

Group C

Italy
Netherlands

Group D

Greece
Spain

2nd round:
Germany defeats Switzerland
Portugal defeats Poland
Italy Defeats Spain
Greece defeats Netherlands

Semi-finals
Portugal defeats Germany
Italy defeats Greece

Final:
Portugal defeats Italy
(although a Italy vs Germany final would be fun to watch)

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by whataboutbob on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 06:36:32 AM EST

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It is said that a Germany-Italy final would bring most money (e.g. most people with money in the pockets would be interested). Of the group stage matches, of course Italy-France leads. (That's the match I HAVE to watch, will be hard as I will likely be travelling)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 07:18:56 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

GROUP STAGE

Group A
Czech Republic
Portugal

Group B
Croatia
Germany

Group C
Italy
Netherlands

Group D
Spain
Russia

QUARTER FINALS

Czech Republic beats Germany
Croatia beats Portugal
Russia beats Italy
Netherlands beats Spain

SEMI-FINALS

Czech Republic beats Croatia
Russia beats Netherlands

FINAL

Russia beats Czech Republic

(If there's a 3rd place consolation match, Netherlands loses to Croatia)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 09:26:24 AM EST

Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

Amazing prediction, nanne. All four favorites lose in the quarterfinals, and France doesn't even get through.

Personally, i think Gilles Villeneuve will return from the Great Beyond to nip Hamilton and Raikkönnen for the pole. (so you know where i'll be focused during the second half of Switzerland - Czech Republic.)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 10:07:14 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

No 3rd place match in Euro championships.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 10:52:25 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Are you holding Hiddink in this high regard?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 10:52:52 AM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

He's the best coach there. But he's also got good players.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 01:57:35 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 1)

Who come up as playmakers?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 02:24:32 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (4.00 / 2)

I don't know if there's a need for playmakers. Hiddink's teams often manage to play ball as a unit (a very fast unit) without revolving around one or two pivots. At least that's how I saw South Korea's play. But Zyrianov will probably be the closest thing.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 04:06:43 PM EST
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Re: Euopean Championships 2008 - Predictions (none / 0)

Hiddink's teams often manage to play ball as a unit (a very fast unit) without revolving around one or two pivots.

But they never won a tournament.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 04:55:38 PM EST
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ok, I'll try (none / 1)

Group A
Czech Republic
Portugal

Group B
Germany
Poland

Group C
France
Netherlands

Group D
Greece
Russia

Quarters
Czech Republic
Germany
France
Netherlands

Semis
France
Netherlands

Final
Netherlands

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 11:22:24 AM EST

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Don't get sucked into it - how to control people: "bread and circuses" - modern equivalent - fast food and football. This evening cafes in Nice's Cours Saleya ruined by having large screen TVs - even on the terraces ! Goodbye to chance for a quiet drink in late sun.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 06:25:07 PM EST

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