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Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 09:54:31 AM EST

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Hope you all had a good start into the new week.

Here it seems to clear up a little, maybe I can have dinner outside. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:02:17 AM EST
Well, for me, today should be a good start into a new year (the 56th)...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:30:35 AM EST
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Happy birthday! When are you in Dublin?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:36:50 AM EST
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We will arrive in Dublin on Friday, July 18 and stay until July 31.

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:12:40 AM EST
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<looks in diary>

So that would be next week or so then!

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:17:01 AM EST
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Yep!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:44:38 AM EST
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and many happy years to come. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:37:16 AM EST
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Thanks, Fran!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:15:57 AM EST
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Shame you were elsewhere, I passed Lyon this morning. Now in Dijon. Off to Cambrai tomorrow.

Typing on a French keyboard is driving me nuts. I thought Qwerty was standard. Mind you, with all my typos on standard, you probably prefer the checking I'm doing.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:41:44 AM EST
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...and very happy birthday.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:42:48 AM EST
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...and thanks!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 09:24:45 PM EST
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Why didn't you let me know before? I was in Lyon and would have enjoyed seeing you.

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:14:06 AM EST
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Happy 56th!
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:44:49 AM EST
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It's my 55th birthday (we usually exclude the very first one from the count), so I'm starting my 56th year...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:08:18 AM EST
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Mon ami, I shall raise a glass of something special to you tonight!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:42:22 AM EST
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Caol Ila, please!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:45:31 AM EST
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its taken 56 attempts to get this year started properly?  ;-)

happy birthday

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:48:39 AM EST
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Well, I don't know yet if this one has started properly...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:42:56 AM EST
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May you find that it has.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 01:55:19 PM EST
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Thanks! With hindsight, it was!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 03:42:12 AM EST
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Happy Birthday!  Many happy returns.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:54:01 AM EST
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Thanks, Drew!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:44:07 AM EST
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Happy Birthday, young man!

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:24:28 AM EST
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Muchas gracias!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:43:40 AM EST
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Aha, me old crab! Were you born in 1789? I suppose not :-)

Still, the national day! Dancing in the streets and fireworks! Some people have all the luck!

(Yes, have all the luck, Melanchthon!)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:53:11 AM EST
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Thanks, me duck!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 12:36:38 PM EST
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Happy Birthday Melanchthon. Fifty five, never would have guessed it!

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 01:24:50 PM EST
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Thanks, my friend!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 01:37:11 PM EST
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Happy birthday Melanchton!

(raises glass)

Hope you have a good start.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 01:46:28 PM EST
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Cheers!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 09:25:23 PM EST
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Why you old ... whatever you are.  Same age as moi.

Welcome to ET, Paul Krugman
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 02:26:10 PM EST
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Same to you!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 09:25:56 PM EST
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A merry day to you Melanchton, and many more to follow.

Have a balloon!!

by Nomad on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 05:20:23 PM EST
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Thanks, Nomad!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 09:26:43 PM EST
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Happy birthday!  (A little bit late... although I think there's still 10 minutes left in the day in Lyon....)
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 05:51:12 PM EST
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Thanks a lot! Do you think I deserve a stormy birthday present?

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 09:28:57 PM EST
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Well, I do have half a bottle of Caol Ila around here somewhere....
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:25:08 AM EST
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Happy 55 and a day birthday !

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 06:12:13 PM EST
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Merci!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 09:29:30 PM EST
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The weather forecast this morning didn't have happy things to say about your area. It was strange in N Italy yesterday. Bologna to Turin the bad weather was to the North, then I drove through cloudy and it looked like it was going to rain, which it was when I reached Chambery in SE France. This morning heading west I went under the tail end.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:47:47 AM EST
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Ananova - Man trades son's name for petrol

A Florida man has traded the right to name his unborn son for £50 worth of petrol.

David Partin's son will be called Dixon and Willoughby Partin when he is born around Christmas.

His unusual first names are after the hosts of a local radio show which offered $100 of free gas to the listener who called in with the most interesting item to trade.

Needless to say, Mr Partin's offer to give up the naming rights for his unborn child was a winner, reports the Orlando Sentinel.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:02:37 AM EST
There is nothing like unqualified people becoming parents and playing with your life before you´re even born....

I hope the child divorces both those parents at the age of 8, sues the radio station and the hosts, before changing his/her name permanently.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:52:52 AM EST
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Criminal record checks could hit over 14 million people | The Register

If we had suggested, ten years ago, that one day soon, the government would draw up a list of prescribed occupations: that they would build a database of millions of people who would need to register for those occupations; and that a committee of Public Safety would be set up with power of absolute veto over every individual on the database; it is just possible that you would have decided that even El Reg had taken leave of its oh-so-cynical senses.

But lo! All of the above is soon to come to pass - and there is a good chance that it will affect a far larger proportion of the population than you might imagine, far more people than the 11.3 million the Government claim it will affect. (14.3 million and rising is our prediction).



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:44:34 AM EST
And some Brits are worried about ID cards ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:49:33 AM EST
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You're not paranoid if people are really kicking you.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:52:03 AM EST
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When I get home I have diary about that.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:59:49 AM EST
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choosing who was playing at this concert?

BBC NEWS | Wales | South East Wales | Rock concert to tackle suicides

A rock concert has been held to help tackle the issues surrounding the apparent suicides of young people in Bridgend county.

Funeral for a Friend staged the gig in their home town after being contacted by staff at a music shop.



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:50:00 AM EST
There's a whole festival worth of bands you couldn't book for such an event.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:59:04 AM EST
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looks like someone didn't get the memo.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 11:25:34 AM EST
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Oct. 1980 Solidarity leaders declaring their intention to  fight back against the Party's attempt to backtrack on the August accords. From left: Lech Walesa, Bronislaw Geremek, Tadeusz Mazowiecki.

Fall 1980 Solidarity leaders at negotiations with the Party. Geremek is the guy with the beard leaning forward on the left. Across from him with the dark hair and funny face is Lech Kaczynski, the current Polish president.

Geremek at Jacek Kuron's Legion of Honor ceremony. From left Kuron (in the denim shirt), Geremek (suit), and Adam Michnik (denim jacket). Kuron, who died two years ago, was the Polish opposition leader I admired the most. One of the reasons for that was the fact that unlike most of his old colleagues from the left wing opposition, he never drank the neo-liberal cool-aid, nor did he buy in to automatic following of the US line (e.g. he vociferously opposed the Iraq war). Together with his friend Karol Modzelewski, Kuron also wrote what remains one of the best Marxist analyses of the mature communist system, the so called 'Open Letter' of 1964.

Funny trivia fact - two of Poland's foreign ministers in the post communist era have been professors of history (Geremek and the recently deceased Stefan Meller). Both specialized in French history, both were of Jewish origin, both got drawn into the opposition by their participation in the so-called 'Flying University', an organization that provided lectures on forbidden subjects in various private apartments and was modeled on a similar institution in the Partition period.

by MarekNYC on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 12:18:51 PM EST
it is worth reposting à l'identique as a diary.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 12:57:17 PM EST
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I'll see what I can do tonight (need to go out soon, and would prefer to expand it a bit if I'm going to make it a diary)
by MarekNYC on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 01:27:12 PM EST
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anyone got a link to a decent avi or animated graphic of a champagne cork popping/similar success themed animation to drop into a powerpoint? (Success tick etc?

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 01:20:14 PM EST
Ruh-Roh.

WaMu, FTW!

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 01:40:38 PM EST
Perhaps this?


If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 02:11:56 PM EST
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Meh, a 35% loss on the day is nothing new for them over the past year.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 03:28:25 PM EST
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I have never seen so many helicopters over Paris, and I have never seen them fly so low. I imagine they were used to ferry heads of States for the UDM summit, but it was quite impressive:

I also got to enjoy a portion of the parade, as the vehicles go by my street to leave from the Champs Elysées. Tanks driving through Paris are a pretty incredible sight - and not just a sight: you feel the vibrations they make a few hundred meters out, and they drwon out every sensation as they drive by. They also seem to enjoy driving insanely close to the parked cars, maybe a few mirros were lost in the process, I have to wonder...

Oh yes, it was a perfect, sunny, not too warm day in Paris (and I spent it reading legal documentation - for wind farms, so it's a good thing right?).

We have the fireworks tonight, I'll try to post a few pics if I can. The neighbors have kindly decided to throw a party for the occasion, and we'll watch the fireworks from there (it's the same neighbors that have loaned their car to my wife so that she could go to the beach with the kids after our own car was broken into yesterday. total socialism, even on a small scale, has its good sides).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 02:36:47 PM EST

Lifted from the front page of some newspaper....

Happy 14 juillet!

"C'est bien vrai, n'est-ce pas, que les moutons mangent les arbustes?" — Le Petit Prince, Antoine de Saint Exupéry

by dconrad (dai {point} conrad {arobase} gmail {point} com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 04:46:46 PM EST
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Seems those helicopters are in retreat....

(ducks)

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 05:10:01 PM EST
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First day for me in many weeks with no allergy problems; so I manicured my garden which was in great need. Here's a progress report photo.



I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 03:15:46 PM EST
Good news ! Do you know which plants exactly cause your allergies ?

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 06:15:26 PM EST
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I seem to be allergic to the Forest of Fontainebleau which is very humid most of the year. June seems to be the worst month with September and December not far behind. To bad I live right in the middle of it.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 10:33:38 PM EST
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Pirate Bay is down. They are apparently under investigation for selling avert space to some drugs, but is that enough to shut it down? Anyone knows more?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 03:18:31 PM EST
by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 03:34:24 PM EST
Does anyone know where to find an online bus timetable for Maastricht?
by Sassafras on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 06:44:03 PM EST
But you can perhaps use 9292ov if you know the names of the streets (or postal code, or train stations, attraction parks and so on)...
by Nomad on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 04:34:51 AM EST
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Thank you-it's for my parents.  I'm sure they'll have the postcode of where they're staying  :)
by Sassafras on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 10:34:44 AM EST
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