European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 21. July

by Fran
Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 11:41:50 AM EST

On this date in history:

1893 - Birth of Hans Fallada, one of the best-known German writers of the 20th Century. He wrote primarily novels of social criticism, and his most famous work is the novel, 'Little Man, What Now?' (d. 1947)

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 02:58:33 PM EST
EU Calls on Germany to Explain East European Job Block | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 19.07.2008
The European Union's employment commissioner on Saturday asked Germany to explain its decision to keep its labor market closed until 2011 to unskilled workers from new EU member states in eastern Europe.

"I am awaiting a concrete and detailed explanation from Germany," Vladimir Spidla told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung daily during a conference in Bonn. "Germany must provide (an explanation), then I will see if the arguments are convincing," the former Czech prime minister added.

Earlier this week, the German government said it would ease rules for highly qualified immigrants from new EU states seeking work to fill yawning gaps in the German job market.

The government also reduced the minimum wage highly-skilled foreigners have to earn to secure a work permit to 63,600 euros ($101,200) per year from 86,400 euros.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:01:23 PM EST
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While in 2006 the decision to lift the ban or not was with the Member States, in 2009 a further (and last) 2-year extension will be decided by the Commission and Germany (and Austria) will have to justify it.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:30:56 AM EST
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EU Bullish on Agriculture as WTO Faces Trade Talk Showdown | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 19.07.2008
The European Union is not prepared to make any more concessions on agriculture at next week's key round of global trade talks in Geneva, the French presidency of the bloc said Friday, July18.

"The EU has exhausted its room for maneuver in agriculture and cannot go any further. So we will not be making any further concessions," said Anne-Marie Idrac, a French government minister in charge of foreign trade.

Idrac was speaking on the sidelines of an extraordinary meeting of EU ministers, convened in Brussels to prepare the groundwork for next week's World Trade Organization (WTO) talks where 30 nations will try to salvage a set of long-floundering trade liberalization negotiations.

Those talks will address the so-called Doha Round, which seek to bring down global trade barriers.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:02:02 PM EST
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Barroso admits he wants to be EU commission president for a second time - EUobserver

European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso has for the first time publicly admitted he wants a second term as head of the EU executive.

In an interview with Dutch daily NRC Handelsblad on Saturday (19 July), he said he feels "honoured and privileged" to serve as commission president.

"If today I had to decide about a second term, my answer would be 'yes'. Provided of course that I have the support of member states and the European Parliament. I have not said that before", he indicated.

"I will see whether the conditions are right to continue. And whether the Europeans want me"

He said however that it is "too early" to take a final decision on his candidacy since the appointment of a new commission president is only scheduled to take place after the June 2009 European Parliament elections.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:02:29 PM EST
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Who else in the EPP is a suitable candidate? Barring a surprise in the 2009 European parliament elections, it will be one of them.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:29:19 AM EST
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Italy to generalise fingerprints - EUobserver
Rome has decided that all Italians' fingerprints will be taken and figure on their ID cards starting from 2010, in order to respond to EU criticism about taking the fingerprints of Roma living in Italy, Le Figaro reports. Additionally, tougher measures against illegal immigrants have been adopted.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:02:49 PM EST
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Hot air that's designed to calm down local opinion after the EU reprimand. It will never go through. Sheer blabber.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:47:17 PM EST
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In what situations are you currently required to show your ID card? Is it like a driver's license, which you're only required to show when stopped for a traffic violation? Or can an official ask for it at any time?
by asdf on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 11:26:20 PM EST
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Probably if you are Roma

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 04:57:02 AM EST
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One of the principal objections to ID cards in the UK is the extent to which it will be a burden on non-whites who will find their freedoms regularly interrupted by the police asking for ID. In a country like the UK with a considerable non-white population that's an awful lot of people to alienate pointlessly.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 05:43:58 AM EST
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The flashy playboys taking over the mafia - Times Online
Sicily's Cosa Nostra is stronger than ever - but its new young bosses are doing `business' differently

On a sun-drenched morning last week in Palermo, the Sicilian capital, a bunker-like courtroom in the Ucciardone prison was the scene of a rare challenge to the mafia. Bosses and low-ranking "soldiers" stared fixedly from their steel cages as seven shopkeepers - hidden by shaded glass - identified those who had allegedly collected extortion money from them for years.

To date, 18 Palermitans - owners of bars and pizzerias, shops and car showrooms, even a street vendor who sells olives - have picked out their tormentors, for whom extortion rackets are the key instrument to control a neighbourhood.

One witness had paid the same mafioso for 22 years; a refusal would have meant a gangster holding a gun to his temple or burning his shop down. At best. One man, the son of an ironmonger, recently refused to pay - and subsequently found a video cassette of the Agatha Christie film A Murder Is Announced on the seat of his scooter.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:06:12 PM EST
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A perfect synchronicity with the discussion of Coppola's filmic Corleone familia on OT last night.


The hut was in a valley a five-minute drive from the dismal town of Corleone. Here the leader of both the mafia and the Corleonese clan, the richest and most powerful crime family in history, had spent his last weeks of freedom in a squalid home that smelt dankly of ricotta cheese.

The godfather looked like a peasant, with his silver hair and weather-beaten face. He had been living off simple food such as boiled chicory; the only hints of his wealth were seven Scottish-made cashmere sweaters and £30,000 in cash. Where, I wondered, were the gangsters of the Godfather films with their beautiful women, luxury villas, limousines and partying?

Call me naive, but i never knew they were so big.


The stakes are staggering: the mafia and its two junior cousins, the Camorra and the 'Ndrangheta, earn £42 billion a year, or 10.5% of Italy's GDP - not including another £35 billion or so from drug trafficking. The roots of such wealth are protection rackets and public works contracts. The mafia ensures that businesses under its control win lucrative contracts to build roads and public buildings such as hospitals or even law courts, or to supply hospitals with medical supplies.

10.5% of Italian GDP, plus a nearly equal amount of drug running.  (No cite given for the numbers.)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:09:05 AM EST
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German Climbers Held by Kurdish Rebels Released From Captivity | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 20.07.2008
Three German climbers kidnapped earlier this month by Kurdish rebels in eastern Turkey have been freed, the CNN-Turk and NTV television channels reported Sunday, July 20.

"(Turkish) Foreign Minister Ali Babacan called his opposite number in Germany, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, to tell him that the three German citizens are now in the hands of Turkish forces and are in good health," said spokesman Burak Ozugergin.

 

The trio -- Helmut Johann, Martin Georpe and Lars Holper Reime -- were seized by separatist rebels from the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) on July 8 during a climbing expedition to Mount Ararat in Agri province.

 

"Because of our heavy operations in the region, the PKK was forced to leave them on a hilltop and flee ... The aim of our operations has been to prevent the terrorists from taking the hostages across the border," said Agri governor Mehmet Cetin.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:07:58 PM EST
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No injuries reported in 3 bombings in northern Spain - International Herald Tribune

LAREDO, Spain: Four bombs exploded in northern Spain on Sunday -- including one outside a bank -- causing damage but no injuries, officials said. A caller earlier warned about the explosives, saying he was speaking on behalf of Basque separatists.

The first detonated without warning around 5 a.m. outside a bank in the northern town of Getxo, damaging a cash dispenser and breaking windows, the regional Interior Ministry said in Bilbao.

Five hours later, a caller warned fire officials in the Basque town of Muskiz that two bombs would explode in Laredo and Noja in the neighboring province of Cantabria, the ministry said.

A bomb exploded in the sand next to Laredo's beach-front promenade at around 12:20 p.m. In Noja, a device detonated at the beach around 1 p.m., and another bomb exploded at a golf course about an hour later, according to Cantabria's regional Interior Ministry in Santander.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:09:05 PM EST
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Gwladys Fouché: Big business can and should make ethical investments | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Norway's Sovereign Wealth Fund has proven that big money can be invested in ethical ways. Others should follow suit

Many people think ethical investments are a worthy but inconsequential sideline away from the business of making big money - an indulgence for do-gooders. But the example of the second largest sovereign wealth fund (SWF) in the world, after Abu Dhabi's, may give them food for thought. Norway's Government Pension Fund, worth a dizzying £203bn, frequently flexes its ethical muscles.

The fund saves up nearly all the income from its oil and gas resources from the North Sea - the Nordic country is the world's fifth largest oil exporter and second biggest gas exporter to Europe. It invests nearly all the money outside its borders, to avoid overheating the domestic economy, taking only 4% of the fund's revenue each year to balance the annual budget. And when it invests its cash, it makes sure it's done ethically.

In 2006, the fund disinvested from US retail giant Wal-Mart because its labour policies, such as blocking employees' attempts to form unions or pressurising staff to work overtime without compensation, amounted to "serious/systematic violations of human rights and labour rights". The year before, it kicked out Britain's largest weapon manufacturer, BAE Systems, citing its involvement in the production of nuclear weapons. The fund does not invest in companies producing "especially inhumane" military equipment, such as nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, as well as anti-personnel landmines or cluster bombs. Neither does it invest in industries that harm the environment on a large scale. In total, about 25 firms have been kicked out.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:10:36 PM EST
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Another MoD laptop stolen | UK news | guardian.co.uk

The Ministry of Defence tonight confirmed another laptop with "sensitive information" on has been stolen while one of their officials checked out of a hotel.

An MoD spokesman said the theft from the Britannia Adelphi hotel in Liverpool city centre on Thursday brought the total of laptops stolen to 659.

On Friday the MoD admitted that 658 of its laptops had been stolen over the past four years - nearly double the figure previously claimed.

The department also said 26 portable memory sticks containing classified information had been either stolen or misplaced since January.

However, the MoD insisted its policies were "generally fit for purpose", and said all data losses were fully investigated.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:16:41 PM EST
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EU rules blamed for Rock regulation failings

European Union rules limited the ability of British financial authorities to cope with the crisis at Northern Rock, according to a pamphlet published today by a leading economist.

The fine print:

Prof Congdon's pamphlet was published today by thinktank Global Vision, which campaigns for a looser British relationship with the EU.

Global Vision director Ruth Lea said: "The health and stability of the financial sector is vital to the well-being of the British economy.

"Tim Congdon's paper shows that it is crucial to renegotiate our membership with the EU so we are free of EU involvement in our banking system."

by det on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 03:39:39 AM EST
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 And Tim Congdon who is referenced wouldnt happen to be the same one who wrote a letter to the Telegraph saying I'll be voting UKIP if Cameron stays.  

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 04:51:53 AM EST
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Ruth Lea is also the ex-spokesperson for the CBI, a CEO body who fired her for being too embarrassingly right-wing.

She is often on the BBC because they consider her absolutely bonkers (quote from a staffer on a BBC current affairs prog) and likely to provoke an argument from her extremism and thus make good telly. nb, not informative, just entertaining - a curious value in current affairs.

The Guardian feature her for the same reason, which I find mystifying. I don't mind reading right wing views so long as they're coherent and evidence based (it's possible - Max Hastings is always worth reading for this very reason), but I object to reading drooling at the mouth absurdity, which is what Lea and Fukuyama serve up.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 05:40:53 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Business | HBOS investors snub share issue

Investors in UK bank HBOS have overwhelmingly declined the chance to buy new shares in the firm.

The top mortgage lender announced that just 8.29% of the new shares offered in its £4bn rights issue were taken up



Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 04:56:24 AM EST
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This is going to kick off a wave of instability in the UK banking system. HBOS will be okay since the underwriters will pony up but the underwriters will be screwed and investors will take note that the banking stocks can only go down.


A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:32:34 AM EST
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RIA Novosti - World - Ukrainian opposition party blocks NATO ships in Crimea

KIEV, July 21 (RIA Novosti) - A Ukrainian opposition party has prevented foreign warships participating in a NATO naval exercise from leaving the Black Sea port of Odessa, the Bratstvo (Brotherhood) press service said on Monday.

Sea Breeze 2008, a NATO military exercise, began last Monday in Ukraine's Odessa, Crimea and Black Sea coastal regions. Two years ago, the Sea Breeze 2006 exercise in the Crimea was also disrupted by protests.

Ukraine and the United States are joined by 15 other countries for this year's exercises, which are due to end on July 26. Fifteen Ukrainian ships, four aircraft, 10 helicopters, and 500 service personnel are involved in the military exercises.

"On the morning of July 21, 10 Brotherhood boats blocked off the exit from the port of Odessa, where foreign warships are deployed, with the aim of preventing them from participating in the NATO Sea Breeze 2008 exercise," the party said.

It added that three boats were later detained, but the others continued the 'blocking operation.'

"The NATO drill in Odessa is being accompanied by numerous protests by local residents. This demonstrates the public mood in Ukraine over the government's course toward early admission to the alliance," it said.



The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 07:15:09 AM EST
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WORLD
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 02:59:14 PM EST
Obama Meets With Afghan President Karzai

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says the situation in Afghanistan is "precarious" and "urgent."

In an interview broadcast Sunday during his first trip to Afghanistan, Obama said the U.S. needs to start planning now to send in more troops. He has called for an additional one to two brigades _ or about 7,000 troops _ to be sent to Afghanistan to help counter a resurgent Taliban and quell rising violence.

Obama told CBS News that Afghanistan has to be the central focus in the fight against terrorists.

He said the Bush administration allowed itself to be distracted by a "war of choice" but now is the time to correct the mistake.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:00:45 PM EST
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In Kabul, Obama calls Afghan front 'central' to war on terror - International Herald Tribune

KABUL: Afghanistan must become "the central front" in the war on terror, Barack Obama said Sunday in the Afghan capital, sharpening his policy clash with John McCain over whether the war in Iraq has been a distraction from that effort.

Obama has pledged to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan and to focus more on terrorist sanctuaries in Pakistan.

"We have to understand that the situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan, and I believe this has to be the central focus, the central front, in the battle against terrorism," Obama said in an interview with CBS News.

In a nearly two-hour lunch with President Hamid Karzai and other top Afghan officials, Obama "conveyed that he is committed to supporting Afghanistan and to continuing the war against terrorism with vigor," said Homayun Hamidzada, a spokesman for Karzai, who did not comment directly on Obama's proposed strategy in Afghanistan.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:14:13 PM EST
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Obama falls victim to propaganda: Before widening war in Afghanistan, there is much to consider | The Smirking Chimp

Barack Obama wants to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq and send them to Afghanistan, which he calls the real front on the "war on terror." He also has repeated threats to attack Pakistan "if necessary."

One understands Obama's need to sound macho. Rival John McCain has been beating his chest, proclaiming, "I know how to win wars." Polls show Americans trust McCain three to one over Obama as a war leader. Unfortunately, recent U.S. presidents seem to require small military conflicts to prove their political virility.

But Obama has long called the U.S.-led occupation of Afghanistan a "good war," a view most Americans and Canadians share. They see Afghanistan -- and now Pakistan -- as hotbeds of al-Qaida and Taliban terrorists that must be eradicated.

It is distressing to see Obama succumb to the blitz of war propaganda over Afghanistan and adopt George W. Bush's faux terminology of terrorism. Before Obama urges widening America's war there, he should consider:

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 12:33:13 AM EST
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Brzezinski wary of repeating Soviet experience

Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former US national security adviser and prominent supporter of Barack Obama, has warned the Democratic presidential candidate that he risks repeating the defeat suffered by the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Mr Obama has called for up to 10,000 more US troops to be deployed in the country, where the USSR once sent tens of thousands of soldiers only to suffer cataclysmic military failure.

But in an interview with the Financial Times Mr Brzezinski warned: "It is important for US policy in general and for Obama more specifically to recognise that simply putting more troops into Afghanistan is not the entire solution . . . We are running the risk of repeating the mistake the Soviet Union made . . . Our strategy is getting in deeper and deeper."

He added that while the Soviets invaded the country thinking there was a communist Afghan elite on which they could rely, "we have to be careful not to overestimate the appeal of the democratic Afghan elite, because we run the risk that our military presence . . . will gradually turn the Afghan population entirely against us".



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 12:06:58 PM EST
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SPIEGEL Interview with Iraq Leader Nouri al-Maliki: 'The Tenure of Coalition Troops in Iraq Should Be Limited' - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

The situation in Iraq seems to be improving. SPIEGEL spoke with Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki about his approval of Barack Obama's withdrawal plans and what he hopes from US President Bush in his last months in office.

SPIEGEL: Mr. Prime Minister, the war and its consequences have cost more than 100,000 lives and caused great suffering in your country. Saddam Hussein and his regime are now part of the past. Was all of this worth the price?

Maliki: The casualties have been and continue to be enormous. But anyone who was familiar with the dictator's nature and his intentions knows what could have been in store for us instead of this war. Saddam waged wars against Iran and Kuwait, and against Iraqis in the north and south of his own country, wars in which hundreds of thousands died. And he was capable of instigating even more wars. Yes, the casualties are great, but I see our struggle as an enormous effort to avoid other such wars in the future.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:03:22 PM EST
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Maliki's Praise for Obama: Iraqi Leader Stirs up US Campaign - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Obama is pleased, but McCain certainly is not. In an interview with SPIEGEL, Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki expressed support for Obama's troop withdrawal plans. Despite a half-hearted retraction, the comments have stirred up the US presidential campaign. SPIEGEL stands by its version of the conversation.

Comments made by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in an interview with SPIEGEL (more...) published on Saturday have stirred up the campaign teams of both Barack Obama and John McCain this weekend. And late on Saturday, Maliki tried to distance himself from the statements, saying his comments were misunderstood.

 Comments by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki seemingly in favor of Barack Obama's plans for troop withdrawal have stirred up the US campaign. In the interview, Maliki expressed support of Obama's plan to withdraw US troops from Iraq within 16 months. "That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of changes."

Maliki was quick to back away from an outright endorsement of Obama, saying "who they choose as their president is the Americans' business." But he then went on to say: "But it's the business of Iraqis to say what they want. And that's where the people and the government are in general agreement: The tenure of the coalition troops in Iraq should be limited."

A Baghdad government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, said in a statement that SPIEGEL had "misunderstood and mistranslated" the Iraqi prime minister, but didn't point to where the misunderstanding or mistranslation might have occurred. Al-Dabbagh said Maliki's comments "should not be understood as support to any US presidential candidates." The statement was sent out by the press desk of the US-led Multinational Force in Iraq.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:04:03 PM EST
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Barack Obama goes offshore for home votes | The Australian

BARACK Obama embarks on a tour of Europe, the Middle East and Afghanistan this weekend - a feverishly anticipated audition on the world stage that includes the unprecedented spectacle of aUS presidential candidate addressing a huge crowd in a foreign city.

Yet for all the adoring throngs that are likely to greet the Democratic contender and the eight foreign leaders he will meet, the trip is aimed at voters back home, where Senator Obama's youth and inexperience have raised significant doubts that he has the gravitas, grit and sure-footedness to be their next commander-in-chief.

The 20,000km whirlwind tour, extraordinary for its timing midway through a general election campaign and the international media frenzy it is attracting, will take Senator Obama to Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordan, Israel, the West Bank, Germany, France and Britain as he seeks to bolster his national security credentials, one of his greatest electoral liabilities.

Should any of his hosts be under the illusion that the trip is not primarily a White House campaign event, Senator Obama, 46, is taking no foreign journalists. He has filled his campaign plane with US reporters, including three television news anchors, who are in discussions to hold prime-time interviews with him on consecutive nights.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:04:46 PM EST
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The Australian:

a feverishly anticipated audition on the world stage that includes the unprecedented spectacle of a US presidential candidate addressing a huge crowd in a foreign city.

So wrong in so many ways.

Fran:

where Senator Obama's youth and inexperience have raised significant doubts that he has the gravitas, grit and sure-footedness to be their next commander-in-chief.

Plenty of sure-footedness, grit, and gravitas on display in McCain's campaign.

He probably keeps them next to the golf accessories and the pink elephant.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:10:05 AM EST
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Jewish guerrillas told British: quit Palestine or die - Times Online

A pamphlet warning Britons to leave the Middle East or face death has come to light in a stash of illicit propaganda.

The document does not hail from Basra or Baghdad, nor was it penned by the Islamists of al-Qaeda or the al-Mahdi Army. It was found in Haifa, about 60 years ago, and it was issued by the underground group led by Menachem Begin - the future Prime Minister of Israel and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

The document, which surfaced at an auction house this week, is addressed to "the soldiers of the occupation army" and aimed at British soldiers serving in Palestine, then under the British Mandate, preceding the establishment of Israel in 1948. The print has faded and the paper has discoloured since it was unearthed from a grove of trees in Haifa in the summer of 1947. Yet the language and the concerns remain current.

Bombings and murders by underground groups, such as Begin's Irgun, hastened the British withdrawal and the United Nations declaration that led to the founding of modern Israel.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:05:09 PM EST
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I think you'll find they were not terrorists at all, but Freedom fighters. It's a very important difference.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:24:15 PM EST
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I think that there should be a mandated 'snark' or 'gauntlet thrown' indicator whenever the doors of this arena are opened.


It's a wonder that people wonder why the aristocracy lose their heads in revolutions.
by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 01:40:19 AM EST
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The Real News Network - Story
In the second part of his interview to Pepe Escobar, investigative historian and military policy analyst Gareth Porter expands on what awaits Senator Barack Obama when he deals with the power of the national security state. Porter also examines what kind of movement and leader would it take to really try to change a very rigid system, and the proposition of Obama as a new Bobby Kennedy.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:08:20 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Americas | Colombia set for mass peace march

Colombia is preparing for what is expected to be one of the biggest demonstrations in its history.

Millions are expected to turn out, not just in Colombia but across the world, to call for an end to kidnapping and for peace.

Ingrid Betancourt, the French-Colombian hostage freed in a daring military rescue earlier this month, will lead protests in Paris.

The question is whether the rebels of the Farc group are going to listen.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:09:31 PM EST
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EU Calls for Balanced Deal at Crunch World Trade Talks | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 20.07.2008
EU Commission Chief Barroso urged trade ministers from more than 30 nations meeting for make-or-break talks in Geneva Monday to reach a balanced deal, warning that emerging economies too had to make a major contribution.

After nearly seven years of unsuccessful haggling, trade ministers from three dozen rich, poor and emerging economies will try to bridge massive  differences on farm subsidies, import tariffs and accessibility of markets at a meeting in Geneva which opens Monday, July 21.

Called the Doha Development Agenda or Doha round, named after the Qatari capital where the world trade talks were first launched with great fanfare and hope in 2001, the negotiations have been jammed for years.

At the heart of the deadlock lie developing nations' demand for lower farm subsidies and agricultural tariffs in the rich world. In return, industrialized countries are pressing that developing countries reduce import duties and make their markets more accessible to imported services and manufactured goods.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:12:22 PM EST
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Replace "massive" with "insurmountable".

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:18:48 PM EST
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British PM: Demands end to Israel settlements - CNN.com

BETHLEHEM (AP) -- British Prime Minister Gordon Brown demanded Sunday that Israel cease settlement construction and promised more money to jump-start the battered Palestinian economy.

Gordon Brown, left, shakes hands with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. 1 of 2

In his first trip to Israel and the Palestinian territories as Britain's leader, Brown repeatedly stressed that economics are key to Mideast peace, and said Israel should ease travel restrictions in the West Bank that have hindered commerce.

But his strongest comments were reserved for the settlements: "I think the whole European Union is very clear on this matter: We want to see a freeze on settlements."

"Settlement expansion has made peace harder to achieve. It erodes trust, it heightens Palestinian suffering, it makes the compromises Israel needs to make for peace more difficult," Brown said at a news conference with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank town of Bethlehem.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:23:41 PM EST
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Gordon Brown to condemn Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - Telegraph
Gordon Brown will pledge "unbreakable" support to Israel while launching his strongest attack yet on Iran.

The Prime Minister will send a tough message to the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday, warning of imminent sanctions on oil and gas if he does not abandon his nuclear ambitions.

In a landmark speech to the Israeli parliament, Mr Brown will say that Mr Ahmadinejad's denial of Israel's right to exist is "totally abhorrent".

The European Union has already said it stands ready to push for a block on foreign investment in new Iranian oil and gas projects along with sanctions on the financial sector if the Gulf state does not comply with requests to suspend its uranium enrichment programme.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:39:56 PM EST
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Idiot suck up. Iran doesn't care and Israel isn't impressed. By choosing sides the UK is rendered irrelevant in any negotiation. Even his plea to the Israelis to stop expanding settlements (nb, not remove the ones they have) will be ignored, yet he pledges fealty, bends the knee in craven fashion.

Even I'm surprised by the extent to which he looks out of his depth.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:50:43 PM EST
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...his plea to the Israelis to stop expanding settlements (nb, not remove the ones they have)

Aye; that's the nub. The entire country is one expanding settlement, but each individual settlement built past the Green Line is (yet another) violation of the Geneva Accord, as is each apartheid road built between them, as is the Wall.

How the Israelis have turned into their own worst nightmares is a study in mankind's ability to justify anything, then doing it repeatedly, escalated and writ large in order to prove to others that the original (and each subsequent) error was well thought out and worthy of validation.

Would that we worked and escalated so intensely to prove how justified our acts of kindness are, but instead we only get to study such behavior in the development of criminal behavior.

How the Israelis will ever make reparations for their century of terror (essentially upon another of their own family line) will be another interesting study. Has anyone started making book on when that will start and how much that will be?

It's a wonder that people wonder why the aristocracy lose their heads in revolutions.

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 02:05:36 AM EST
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The Israelis are doing this because external war prevents them confronting the lethal fault line in their own society. So they will not stop until the US either stops them or abandons them due to its own financial collapse. As the former is unlikely in our lifetime, it will be the absolute Soviet-style financial and military collapse of the United States that brings this about.

So the book should be on when the US falls over, which I don't see happening in the near future but is a reasonable bet 20 -30 years downline.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 05:35:07 AM EST
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You might be entertained by this: Front group associated with Cheney calls for Bush to be dictator... for life...

Larisa Alexandrovna is the key investigative journalist for The Raw Story

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:14:09 AM EST
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Excuse me while I wind my eyelids back from the place they have become lodged on the top of  my head.

Following the links from the comments takes you some even more maniacal ravings.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:58:07 AM EST
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The entire country is one expanding settlement
Now, now, if you renege on the 1947 Partition of Palestine what's left of the UN system?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:23:56 AM EST
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I perked my ears all I could, but there was no mention of bliar at all.  So where is mr. Palestine development on vacation now?  Still AWOL with our pay?  What exactly has he done so far?

_Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena._
by metavision on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:53:03 PM EST
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heh ? He knows better than to interfere with brown messing up as it might deflect the blame.

Besides, doesn't he want to be alone with his money these days ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:56:55 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Coalition 'bombs Afghan police'

At least 13 Afghan police and civilians have died in two incidents involving international forces, officials say.

Four Afghan police and five civilians died in an apparently mistaken air strike by international coalition forces in Farah province.

Separately, the Nato-led Isaf said it had "accidentally" killed at least four civilians in Paktika province.

The incidents are the latest in a series of controversial clashes involving foreign troops.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:55:16 PM EST
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Still winning hearts and minds. But Obama thinks an expanded military, ie more of this, is the solution.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:52:24 PM EST
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RIA Novosti - Russia - Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba - paper

MOSCOW, July 21 (RIA Novosti) - Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba in a bid to counter U.S. plans to deploy a missile shield in Central Europe, a Russian daily reported on Monday.

Moscow has strongly opposed the possible deployment by the U.S. of 10 interceptor missiles in Poland and an accompanying radar in the Czech Republic as a threat to its national security. Washington says the defenses are needed to deter a possible strike from Iran, or other "rogue" states.

"While they are deploying the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, our strategic bombers will already be landing in Cuba," a high-placed military aviation source told the Izvestia newspaper.

Russia's Tu-160 (Blackjack) and Tu-95 (Bear) strategic bombers are both capable of reaching Cuba.

However, while the source admitted that the possibility of Russian bombers being stationed in Cuba was for now just a hypothetical possibility, he also noted that the rumors had not appeared from out of thin air.



The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 05:07:11 AM EST
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Holy shit - a remake of the Cuban Missile Crisis with Poland starring as Turkey.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:27:20 AM EST
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Not quite. It will be a repeat once ballistic missiles are placed in Cuba or anywhere else in Latin America (given the resentment of Anglo-Saxon policies). Analogy to the proposal to host/refuel aircraft near US borders is what any European NATO country will do for the US, i.e. current situation.

 

by blackhawk on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:01:46 AM EST
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Just wait for the American reaction to those planes.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:18:08 AM EST
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If Russians are serious, what they can do? Either shut up or whine. US has ZERO real leverage on Russia, of all countries.
by blackhawk on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:31:46 AM EST
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That's what's dangerous. When you have no real leverage, all you have left is sabre-rattling.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:43:33 AM EST
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No worries, "empty sabre-rattling" that's were it will end up, unless Russian strategic command is messing things up; thanks to Soviets, they still can destroy NATO five times over.

by blackhawk on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:56:34 AM EST
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MOSCOW, July 21 (RIA Novosti) - Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba in a bid to counter U.S. plans to deploy a missile shield in Central Europe, a Russian daily reported on Monday.

[DoDo's European Geography TechnologyTM]

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:01:46 AM EST
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THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 02:59:42 PM EST
Esperanto, Often Given up for Dead, Finding New Popularity | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 18.07.2008
The Internet is helping bring about a resurgence of the planned language Esperanto, long given up by many for dead. In Rotterdam, Esperantists are celebrating the 100th anniversary of the World Esperanto Federation.

The language that was developed in the late 19th century to bring about world peace was hit hard by Stalinist purges and Nazi ideology in the 20th. But its greatest blow was likely from something else:  a general lack of interest, not to mention the emergence of English as the global lingua franca.

 

But as speakers of Esperanto gather on July 19 for the beginning of the World Esperanto Congress in Rotterdam, they will be celebrating a resurgence of interest in the language as well as the fact that their world body has made it to the century mark, battered perhaps, but still kicking.

 

This "auxiliary language" owes its boost to the online world.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:01:41 PM EST
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Still not booked up? Then how about the first $1m holiday? - News & Advice, Travel - The Independent
Week-long luxury package to Abu Dhabi takes travel to new heights - or new depths - of 'trophy tourism'

If you've spent the past few weeks desperately scouring holiday websites or Teletext for a cheap last-minute deal to somewhere sunny, look away now. A luxurious seven-star hotel yesterday unveiled the world's first US$1m (£500,000) holiday.

Abu Dhabi's Emirates Palace Hotel is offering an eye-wateringly expensive seven-day break for two people in what is being billed as the "ultimate holiday experience".

But what does spending so much on a holiday get you? For a start, it brings two first-class flights, a bit of mile-high champers and a booking in the hotel's most glamorous room, the Palace Suite: three decadent gold, silver and marble bedrooms interrupted only by a giant 61in plasma TV screen. It's a "palace within a palace", the hotel claims.

In return for parting with more than £70,000 a day, there's no need to throw a bag into the Teasmade as the round-the-clock dedicated staff will see to the refreshments between meals. Nor will you have to get up early to reserve a sun-lounger with a towel - your private butler will see to it.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:06:37 PM EST
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U.S. agonizes over whether to kill excess mustangs - International Herald Tribune

GERLACH, Nevada: Five mustangs pounded across the high desert recently, their dark manes and tails giving shape to the wind. Pursued by a helicopter, they ran into a corral - unwilling recruits in an emotional debate over whether to thin, through humane means, a captive herd that already numbers 30,000.

The champions of wild mustangs have long portrayed them as the victims of ranchers who preferred cattle on the range, middlemen who wanted to make a buck selling them for horse meat, and misfits who shot them for sport. But the wild horse today is no longer automatically considered deserving of extensive protections.

Some environmentalists and scientists have come to see the mustangs, which run wild from Montana to California, as top-of-the-food-chain bullies, invaders whose hooves and teeth disturb the habitats of endangered tortoises and desert birds.

Even the language has shifted. In a 2006 article in Audubon magazine, wild horses lost their poetry and were reduced to "feral equids."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:09:53 PM EST
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Wasn't this story running 25 years ago?
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:53:49 PM EST
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Well oil prices have dropped somewhat.  The question is will they stay down?

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:13:41 PM EST
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who knows ? There seems to be a disconnect between price and market conditions right now that is hard to judge.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:54:22 PM EST
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the price fall in recent days had simple explanations:
  • Bernanke's bearish comments on the US economy (suggesting lower demand);
  • higher than expected US stocks;
  • talks with Iran reducing the war premium.

It's likely to be temporary.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:26:51 PM EST
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It is hard to see my links but my second link had been to a weather phenomenon in the form of tropical storm Dolly in the Gulf of Mexico which likely will send prices up again.

Sorry!  I'll make it more explicit next time!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 07:14:14 PM EST
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Oh no, I saw that, but I remember the price spike in the US after Katrina had nothing to do with the market whatsoever, but was a temporary speculative frenzy. I expect nothing different this time.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 05:31:05 AM EST
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several refineries were offline for a while, thus creating serious shortages in gas (solved thanks to Europeans sending their strategic reserves, given that the US only has oil strategic reserves, not gas ones). Oil production was also seriously reduced for a while.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 12:05:29 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Climate documentary 'broke rules'

The Great Global Warming Swindle, a controversial Channel 4 film, broke Ofcom rules, the media regulator says.

In a long-awaited judgement, Ofcom says Channel 4 did not fulfil obligations to be impartial and to reflect a range of views on controversial issues.

The film also treated interviewees unfairly, but did not mislead audiences "so as to cause harm or offence".

Plaintiffs say the Ofcom judgement is "inconsistent" and "lets Channel 4 off the hook on a technicality."



Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 11:21:05 AM EST
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KLATSCH
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:00:12 PM EST
Sicilian town surrenders in celebrity coup - Europe, World - The Independent
Sicilian town surrenders in celebrity coup

As an image of local Mediterranean democracy in action, it was hard to beat. Under the deep blue sky of late afternoon, and beneath the solemn gaze of 100 or more local citizens packed into a courtyard shaded by lemon trees, the new mayor and the new town council of the little Sicilian town of Salemi had just been sworn in. Squashed into dark suits and ties, the councillors stood up one after another to give speeches of immaculate boredom.

Yet the national media had flown down from Rome, not something you would expect at such a parochial event. The reason: the new mayor of Salemi (population: 11,254), is Vittorio Sgarbi: one of the oddest and most colourful figures in contemporary Italy. In turn he has been art critic, TV talk-show host, powerful functionary in the Culture Ministry, leader of his own political party, and culture tsar of Milan. Sgarbi has made personal re-invention his trade mark. This is his strangest incarnation to date.

The new mayor has found jobs for some of his famous friends. Pouting quizzically at the crowd at this week's ceremony was Oliviero Toscani, the photographer whose reliably scandalous advertising campaigns for Benetton went round the world. He is Sgarbi's "executive officer for human rights and creativity". In charge of "urbanism and patrimony" is a Sicilian prince. The entourage also includes Graziano Cecchini, a "neo-Futurist" artist who gained fame when he dyed Rome's Trevi Fountain crimson last year; in Salemi, Sgarbi has appointed him assessore al nulla, "executive officer for nothing".

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:07:25 PM EST
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Sgarbi is Berlusconi's version of D'Annunzio. His lack of literary talent is compensated by his compulsion to insult and swear, two hallmarks of modern Italian politics.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 07:03:05 PM EST
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Carla Bruni-Sarkozy defends posing nude - Telegraph
France's first lady Carla Bruni-Sarkozy has defended posing naked and claimed that boasts about her 30 lovers were poetic licence - in fact she has only had around 15.

In her most defensive interview to date, the 40-year-old former model tried desperately to pour cold water on her image as an international sex symbol.

Before her marriage to 53-year-old President Nicolas Sarkozy in February, Mrs Bruni-Sarkozy dated a long list of high-profile celebrities including British rock stars Mick Jagger and Eric Clapton.

Laurent Fabius, France's Socialist former prime minister, was also among her conquests and she once boasted that she preferred "polyandry and polygamy" - many sexual partners - to a husband or boyfriend.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:08:39 PM EST
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she once boasted that she preferred "polyandry and polygamy" - many sexual partners - to a husband or boyfriend.

Any time now would be an excellent time to demonstrate anew her commitment to the philosophy.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 01:39:12 AM EST
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Hmmm...a variation on Goldsmith's Law, perhaps...?

"When you marry your boyfriend, you create a vacancy"

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 04:04:11 AM EST
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I'm sure its penciied in for the first time the government is in real trouble.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 04:41:25 AM EST
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So I go out to leave for the airport, and I discover that a large tree has fallen on my car.  It's always something.  Fucking brilliant.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:40:23 AM EST
Ouch!

(Hope you got pictures for Photoblog Friday ;-)

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:46:53 AM EST
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Heh.  Well, yeah, kinda had to get pics for the insurance company.  Not optimistic about getting money to fix it, unfortunately, since the tree is on a bankrupt developer's land.

[Drew's Crystal Ball of GAAAAAHHHHH(TM) Technology]

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:52:50 AM EST
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Can't you get the land in compensation?

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:18:23 AM EST
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Erm, the land is probably county-controlled, which will create a headache.  Dunno, we'll see.  Luckily the damage is just a ding on the trunk.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:57:37 AM EST
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((*gaaah))

[Drew's Crystal Ball of GAAAAAHHHHH™ Technology]

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 11:05:57 AM EST
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