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Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 10:51:39 AM EST

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Oh good grief, is it that time already. I have barely started the stuff I was supposed to do today. How do you get out of the lazy groove when you wake up tired ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 10:55:02 AM EST
Listen to ol' Cohen and ring what bells you can. :-)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 10:59:59 AM EST
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Well, I don't know if there will be a bell to ring, but I am heading out having dinner with friends. Hope it will not rain. Actually, we would like to eat outside, but I guess I will have to take a thick sweater with me.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:11:13 AM EST
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Not here, the sun's very hot today.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:14:59 AM EST
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Could you send some over, please!!!! It would be really appreciated. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:17:55 AM EST
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From Anthem by Leonard Cohen.

Did I ever say I like Leonard Cohen? I probably did.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 10:57:58 AM EST
I thought he only did one song, Bird on a wire inspired by a Goldie hawn/Mel gibson film.

And i thought Rush wrote Anthem

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:06:30 AM EST
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Well yeah, I know you're not a lyrics person.

But Goldie Hawn/Mel Gibson, that's getting to be a fighting matter.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:12:17 AM EST
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{snigger}

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:19:49 AM EST
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I ADORE Cohen, and strangely enough, he features in a diary I am in the process of writing.  Must be something in the air.

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:13:08 PM EST
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Does anyone know a seaside resort in either the north or west France or N spain that has could keep my parents amused with nice country walks or places to visit (not too many stairs) while I'm at the Paris meeting.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:23:26 AM EST
Deauville or Cabourg (Normandy), Le Touquet (North). All easily and directly reachable by train if necessary.

Etretat is nice too - it has spectacular cliffs ras well as beaches.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 12:04:39 PM EST
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Here www.hernandezrabal.com/tematico/balneariosnorte.htm  

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.
by PerCLupi on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:36:37 PM EST
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http://www.hernandezrabal.com/tematico/balneariosnorte.htm

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.
by PerCLupi on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:37:46 PM EST
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Thank you, but i know it's about spain, but being in spanish doesn't help an english only speaker.

And that music, yikes !! Whoever authorised that needs shooting.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:59:26 PM EST
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Here Panticosa:
http://articulos.altoaragon.org/i_osca11.htm

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.
by PerCLupi on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:05:49 AM EST
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Aaaarghhh !! Parents !! After much deliberation during which everything that was simple was made ridiculously complicated, my mother has now decided she doesn't want to go on holiday.

{ s i g h }

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 03:04:00 PM EST
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I was finally riding again for the first time in about four months. Sapphire is just back from her holidays - spent in a large field of grass running with the herd for nine weeks - and was nice and relaxed. You'd almost think she was glad to see me.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:29:49 AM EST
Washington Post | Acceptance of Gay People in Military Grows Dramatically

Public attitudes about gays in the military have shifted dramatically since President Bill Clinton unveiled what became his administration's "don't ask, don't tell" policy 15 years ago today.

Seventy-five percent of Americans in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll said gay people who are open about their sexual orientation should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military, up from 62 percent in early 2001 and 44 percent in 1993.

Majorities of Democrats, Republicans and independents alike now believe it is acceptable for openly gay people to serve in the U.S. armed forces. Shortly after he took office in 1993, Clinton faced strong resistance to his campaign pledge to lift the military's ban on allowing gay people to enlist. At that time, 67 percent of Republicans and 75 percent of conservatives opposed the idea. A majority of independents, 56 percent, and 45 percent of Democrats also opposed changing the policy.

The most impressive result:

Fifty-seven percent of white evangelical Protestants now support allowing openly gay service members in the military, compared with 82 percent of white Catholics and 80 percent of those with no declared religious affiliation. Three-quarters of both married and single people support the idea, both significantly higher than in 1993.

Magic Space Daddy will not be pleased.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:37:16 AM EST
Jesse Helms must be spinning in his grave, and Limbaugh will hopefully explode live on air.

What are fundies gonna do when all of the stuff they hate is legalised ? Pass out "preventative" baseball bats I guess

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:56:01 AM EST
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What are they going to say when Rachel Maddow has her own show on MSNBC?  Not only is she a liberal, but she's a lesbian.

There's a really great episode of Boston Legal.  I wish I could find the video.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 12:32:22 PM EST
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my mac mini is making that silly ? sign instead of booting up properly, and i had another cd in the drive, so i can't put the installer cd in there. i don't find any pinhole to physically eject it.

anyone have any ideas?

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:41:49 AM EST
Yes.  Turn the computer on, and once you hear the Chimes of DoomTM, hold down both mouse buttons along with the eject key.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:44:35 AM EST
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Seems it's now become impossible to cover up in the tradmed now:

CBSNews.com | Iraqi PM Supports Obama's Withdrawal Plan

(CBS/AP) In an interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel, Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said he supported a plan proposed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq within 16 months.

When asked when he thinks U.S. troops should leave Iraq, al-Maliki told the magazine, "As soon as possible, as far as we are concerned."

He added, "U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months."

Al-Maliki deferred, however, from offering outright support for Obama's candidacy. "Of course, this is by no means an election endorsement," he said. "Who they choose as their president is the Americans' business."

The prime minister, who has spoken of setting a timetable for U.S. withdrawal - an option that has been anathema to the White House - discounted the Bush adminstration's concerns.

So, now that he has officially thrown Bush and McCain under the bus, how long before someone offs Nuri?

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:42:40 AM EST
Nouri has had an "interesting" relationship with Iran anyway. So it was always probable that, in a straight answer to a straight question, he was gonna say stuff like that.

But since when has any Iraqi's opinion mattered regarding the US colonial occupation ? No doubt the US will remain in Iraq while there's a drop of your oil still under their sand.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 11:52:49 AM EST
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Iraqi opinions matter to the extent that they're heard here in America.  Most voters, hearing this from Maliki, will be inclined to say, "Hey, great!  Let's pack our shit and go!"  It plays well for Obama, as the CBS title demonstrates.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 12:24:30 PM EST
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Also, I think Ezra makes a good point here.  Imagine what would've happened had Maliki come out against withdrawal.  It'd be the lead story everywhere, and it would be a harsh blow -- not devastating, as he thinks, but harsh -- to Obama.

Instead the opposite happened, and now St John's got to answer the question of why we should remain in Iraq over the objections of the American and Iraqi people.

Maliki just took all of the wind out of McCain's sails.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 12:54:24 PM EST
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But remember that as far as the tradmed and most Americans are concerned, Maliki is just another dusky towelhead whose opinions are relevant only if they support those of the republicans.

Other than that, the only thing keeping him from an appointment with a bullet from Blackwater is US indulgence and generosity, so he'd better get with the programme.


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:18:01 PM EST
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True of the tradmed, not true of the American public for the simple reason that the words "Prime Minister" come before his name.  Trust me on this one.  When the Iraqi PM openly endorses one candidate's withdrawal policy over the other's "100 Years" policy, the public will take note.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:32:04 PM EST
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A comment from a McCain spokesthing

Regardless, voters care about [the] military, not about Iraqi leaders."

so, who cares about the people we liberated ? Neither we nor the american people give a rat's arse about dusky towelheas so long as we can have endless war...hurrah !!

McCain (in the role of Hessler, the SS Colonel in the film Battle of the Bulge

Col. Martin Hessler: We have done it Conrad! We have done it!
Cpl. Conrad: Then I was wrong. We have won the war.
Col. Martin Hessler: No.
Cpl. Conrad: You mean we have lost?
Col. Martin Hessler: No.
Cpl. Conrad: I don't understand. If we have not won, and we have not lost, than what is happening?
Col. Martin Hessler: The best thing possible is happening - the war will go on.
Cpl. Conrad: For how long?
Col. Martin Hessler: Indefinitely. On, and on, and on!
Cpl. Conrad: But it must come to an end.
Col. Martin Hessler: You're a fool Conrad. Those of us who understood knew in 19412003 that we could never win.
Cpl. Conrad: You mean Colonel for three years we have been fighting without any hope of victory?
Col. Martin Hessler: There are many kinds of victory. For the German Army to survive, for us to remain in uniform - that is our victory. Conrad, the world is not going to get rid of us after all.
Cpl. Conrad: But, when do we go home?
Col. Martin Hessler: This is our home.
Cpl. Conrad: And my sons? When do I see them? What will become of them?
Col. Martin Hessler: They will become German soldiers, and you will be proud of t


keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:39:26 PM EST
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Brilliant.  Now Camp O needs to fire back, "So much for liberation," and crush them with their own quote.  McCain is reeling now.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 06:21:54 PM EST
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Adding, we need to teach Nouri and Der Spiegel about the concept of news cycles.  It would've been more helpful if this interview had appeared in the Monday morning papers here in the states rather than Sunday, because all the nightly news broadcasts would've led with "Iraqi Prime Minister Endorses Obama's Iraq Policy".

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:34:14 PM EST
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Perhaps Nouri should talk to the Guardian and the Times on Sunday.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:55:54 PM EST
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has dropped by in Netroots Nation...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 12:05:12 PM EST
Yes, I saw Al Rodgers had broken the story at dKos.  Good stuff.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 12:10:13 PM EST
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Judging by the reports he got Pelosi off the hook when people kept asking embarrassing questions about why the leadership is screwing up all the time.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:22:15 PM EST
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but he also got her to support his plan for 100% carbon-free electricity generation, which might be more important news.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:06:22 PM EST
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NYT version: Gore Wows the Netroots Crowd


You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 03:51:14 PM EST
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Here I am, a new immigrant to Europe, coming back after my Great-Grand Parents left for America from Hannover during the Bismark time.  I am getting married next month so my Aufenthaltelaubnis will change to a Niederenthalterlaubnis and I will finally be able to work.

I am waiting to hear from the University of Jena about my acceptance for a PhD program that I applied to in February.  My Doktervater calls the Dean's Office the black hole.  They lost my paperwork but that I shouldn't feel bad because they lost the paperwork of a new professor as well.  I am still waiting for the news on that.

That's great, but what is a plan B?  What if I do not get accepted?  My undergraduate degree, from the University of Michigan is in Russian and East European Studies/Creative Writing, my MA is from University of Virginia in Germanic Languages and Literatures.  I am a Germanist.

So what can I do as a job?  What happens if I don't get into Jena?  Does anyone have any advice of what I should look at in the job market for a possible vocation?

Also, as a 60 pc disabled veteran, do I face discrimination or an advantage trying to enter the job market, whatever it may be.

I am just wondering what may be open for me and what to look into if anyone has any ideas.

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 12:16:37 PM EST
No ideas I'm afraid, but I wish you all the luck I can.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:20:44 PM EST
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Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.
by budr on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:14:09 PM EST

I really like Jeff Buckley's rendition better, but rumor has it Cohen wept when K. D. Laing sang it for him.

Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.

by budr on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:42:13 PM EST
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Sweet.  iPhones do YouTube embeds now.  Don't think I could get those before.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:56:02 PM EST
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I can't hear it without thinking of John Cale...

... or the man himself:

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 06:10:38 PM EST
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John Cale was the real arranger of Hallelujah, even if he didn't sing it all that well. Buckley took over the piano arrangement and sang it pretty but over-signified. (Rufus Wainwright ditto).

I'd as soon hear Cohen drone it, but his arrangement sucks, as often.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 02:23:42 AM EST
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I guess I'm just a soft touch for a certain kind of vocal.  Whenever Buckley or Laing get to a certain step on that grand staircase of (what, fifths?) my eyes go moist no matter how many times I hear it.

Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.
by budr on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 11:39:31 AM EST
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Interesting article on ethics and economics from a German Christian point of view.

There is a link back to the original, if anyone wants to go back to the source.

Without Ethics the Economy Runs into the Wall

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 01:52:15 PM EST
Godz, it's the terrible thing on a slow Open thread to realise everybody else has a life...except you.

{wanders off to read a book}

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:01:47 PM EST
its all these people hitting the bright lights of conferences, surrounded by fawning multitudes.

Leaves the rest of us contemplating the empty life of being without celebrity ;-)

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:26:14 PM EST
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(Meant to add, No, it's not just you)

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:31:25 PM EST
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It's not helped that I'm suffering from post-holiday blues. Life has been pretty interesting for the last month and now.....nada.

I'm feeling rundown and tired, bored and listless and crave an entertainment. Harumph....

Who had a punk song "i'm bored I'm bored I'm bored i'm bored I'm bored I'm bored i'm bored
I'm bored I'm bored I'm bored i'm bored...I'm bored I'm bored I'm bored ??

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:52:25 PM EST
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cant think of it but have these two instead



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:07:21 PM EST
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Good stuff.  That Iggy Pop song was the first thing to leap to mind, but, uh, The Clash will do nicely too....
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:56:54 PM EST
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Life?  What is this... life ...you speak of?

Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.
by budr on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:33:21 PM EST
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Maybe the same life excitement as here: Choking.in.the.heat.  Fingers.cutting.through.the.air.to.type.
Not.a.speck.of.dust.moving.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:51:28 PM EST
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Don't we miss that northerly air stream that was keeping temperatures human-friendly of late?

Your heat came over the fence to our side and blew up in noisy storms all night.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 02:27:57 AM EST
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I'm sure i had one once, but I seem to have lost it somewhere

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 06:12:09 PM EST
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check down the back of the sofa,  It's where most lost things turn up.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 06:56:46 PM EST
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In the words of a prominent GOP strategist responding to Nouri al-Maliki endorsing Obama's plan (via Marc Ambinder):

We're fucked.

Boom.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:24:20 PM EST
and from the same story

Marc Ambinder

to argue against Maliki would be to predicate that Iraqi sovereignty at this point means nothing.

Now that just really needs leaving out there without further comment.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:30:19 PM EST
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Yes.  They need to be demanding where McCain now stands on withdrawal, and, if he opposes it, they need to demand to know why he doesn't believe in Iraqi sovereignty.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 09:22:20 PM EST
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Don't worry, the tradmed will repackage it as a problem for Obama. How in times of economic uncertainty people will not want cherished American values, such as the right to make endless war on dusky faraway natives, challenged in any way, shape or form.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:30:36 PM EST
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No way to repackage this.  McCain's "advantage" on the war just exploded in his face.

A Bush aide apparently inadvertently forwarded the story to the press instead of the internal White House email list, too.

They're freaking. the fuck. out.


Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:36:23 PM EST
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Maybe, tho' I never bought the idea of McCain's security advantage as existing in anybody's minds except the WaPo editorial board's.

It'll just disappear, alongside all the other McCain problems. Never gets mentioned again.....hey lookee here, Jesse Jackson said something and Obama's got a bad pastor (rinse and repeat).

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:44:02 PM EST
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Ah so there goes the claim on Right wing sites that it's a mistranslation, and the correct translation will be along in a couple of days (Although  in their words  it wont be printed in the Left wing media as they're trying to win Obama  the nobel peace prize!!!)

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:44:40 PM EST
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Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan: report
If anything, it rinforces the suspicion that Obama really is Muslim and Maliki is doing his bit to get him elected.


Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:45:52 PM EST
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That famed special unit of the 101st flying keyboarders.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:04:28 PM EST
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