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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:33:34 PM EST
Divorce rules could divide EU states - EUobserver

Nine EU states are getting ready to reinforce their legal co-operation at the EU level by agreeing a common divorce law, by-passing Sweden's veto and posing questions about a "two-speed Europe."

France, Italy, Spain, Greece, Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, Luxembourg and Romania are set to implement the so-called enhanced co-operation procedure, while other countries - including Germany, Belgium, Portugal and Lithuania - are also currently considering joining the initiative, according to the AFP news agency.

International divorces amount to some 20 percent of all divorces taking place in the EU each year.

If the nine countries go ahead, it will be the first time the legal mechanism - allowing a minimum of eight EU states to present the European Commission with a demand for "enhanced co-operation" - will have been activated.

Provided that the commission accepts the move, it then has to be approved by a qualified majority of the bloc's 27 member states.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:39:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Divorce Law May Lead to Divided, Two-Speed EU | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 24.07.2008
For the first time ever, nine of the EU's 27 members are preparing to implement a cooperation mechanism that some observers fear could turn the bloc into a collection of ad-hoc agreements made by small groups of states.

The move by the nine countries, which could receive the support of Germany and several other nations, according to the AFP news agency, could set a precedent for small groups of EU members to cooperate without the entire bloc's support.

 

France, Italy, Spain, Greece, Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, Luxembourg and Romania are ready to invoke the bloc's "enhanced cooperation procedure" at a justice ministers' meeting on Friday, July 25, to strike a deal on international divorce law.

 

Sweden vetoed a proposal that would have allowed couples of different EU nationalities to choose which country's laws to use when divorcing. EU family law requires unanimous support in order to be enacted.

 

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:43:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
could turn the bloc into a collection of ad-hoc agreements made by small groups of states.

Currently "the bloc" is a collection of no ad-hoc agreements or bilateral agreements between states, on issues like divorce. So where's the problem in at least a group of states doing something better?

If the others are (woo-hoo) scared of "two-speed", let them get on board and make it "one-speed".

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:32:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm curious tho' what Sweden's case is, surely it's not some backwardness like one would expect from a Catholic country - could there be a race to the bottom involved?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:54:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Quoting from here:

  •  Spouses shall, each according to his or her ability, contribute to the maintenance needed to meet their joint and personal needs. Provisions on maintenance for children are set out in the Children and Parents Code.

  •  If the contribution which one spouse is to make is not sufficient for that spouse's personal needs or for the payments which that spouse otherwise attends to for the maintenance of the family, the other spouse shall contribute the money that is needed.

The intent is to ensure one spouse (usually the woman) does not suffer financial hardship as a result of a divorce.

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:37:36 PM EST
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The proposal is not a new divorce law, simply an agreement on which country's law would apply in a divorce between nationals of different states.

EUobserver

Under the proposal, currently blocked by Sweden - which would prefer to keep its own liberal national law - the couples would be able to choose which country's law to apply for their divorce proceedings.

If they cannot agree, their joint connection to a country - notably related to the time of residence - determines which country's courts would deal with the divorce case.

What's misleading is that Sweden would not be obliged to change its "liberal national law": just to enter into an agreement in which Swedish nationals might find themselves obliged to accept that their divorce take place under the rules of another member state (that of the other spouse), in cases where the spouses failed to agree that it should be Swedish law that would apply.

This is more the "protect your own nationals" reflex, it seems to me, than any wish to avoid a "race to the bottom".

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 01:10:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yay for enhanced cooperation!

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 10:44:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
If the nine countries go ahead, it will be the first time the legal mechanism - allowing a minimum of eight EU states to present the European Commission with a demand for "enhanced co-operation" - will have been activated.

Though the Schengen Agreement was not an enhanced cooperation, the enhanced cooperation mechanism is definitely inspired by the way Schengen was brought about. One also should think about the Eurozone as an enhanced cooperation of sorts.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 10:47:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
EU clears baby bottle chemical despite Canada ban - EUobserver

A chemical commonly found in baby bottles and teethers that has been taken off the shelves in Canada is safe for European infants, the EU's food safety monitors have found.

The levels of bisphenol A, or BPA, found in such items is safe for infants in small amounts, according to a European Food Safety Authority (EFSA)scientific opinion issued on Wednesday (23 July), which stated that the substance "provides a sufficient margin of safety for the protection of the consumer, including fetuses and newborns."

Bisphenol A, a chemical commonly found in baby bottles, is safe in small amounts, European food safety experts have found

"After exposure to BPA, the human body rapidly metabolises and eliminates the substance," the report added. "The exposure of the human foetus to BPA would be negligible because the mother rapidly metabolises and eliminates BPA from her body."

"The scientists also concluded that newborns are similarly able to metabolise and eliminate BPA at doses below 1 milligram per kilogram of body weight per day."

Controversy surrounding the chemical exploded in April this year, when EFSA's Canadian counterpart, Health Canada, released an assessment of BPA that concluded it may pose some risk to infants and proposed reclassifying the chemical as "toxic" to human health and the environment.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:39:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The World from Berlin: 'Merkel Has No Grand Plans' - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

With summer break having arrived, German Chancellor Angela Merkel sat down with the press on Wednesday. Her government, she insisted, was still on the right track. With her personal approval rates soaring, one can forgive her optimism.

 German Chancellor Angela Merkel answered the questions of the press on Wednesday. It was as if the months of political bickering between the Social Democrats and Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats never happened. Forget about the only recently ended quarrel over minimum wage. Ignore the recent flare up over nuclear energy. And complaints about the CDU not allowing their coalition partners from the SPD to take any credit? Not important.

On Wednesday, at her traditional press conference just before the government goes on summer break next week, Merkel insisted that her cabinet cooperated well. "As for how we work together," she said, "I think we do so very, very well; the various ministers with their different profiles and possibilities -- whether or not they come from the Union (eds: CDU plus the Christian Social Union) or the SPD -- all have the possibility to take their part of the credit."

But even as Merkel ran down a list of her government's accomplishments this year and pointed to the challenges remaining ahead, she also had a message for her coalition: With general elections still well over a year away, it is far too early to begin campaigning. "After the summer break, we need to continue working," she said. "There will be plenty of time for campaigning, but not in the coming months."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:41:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
SPIEGEL doing recension:

The World from Berlin: 'Merkel Has No Grand Plans' - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

The center-left daily Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:

"Of course one shouldn't be naïve. Merkel has one goal above all others: She wants to remain in power. But contrary to the SPD leadership, she is convinced that she can only do that by exerting a credible amount of effort instead of constantly complaining about her coalition partners -- like Kurt Beck does.... Only when the SPD leadership is successful in creating a different image of itself will people begin returning to them."

"Of course, Merkel doesn't have any grand plans and she doesn't develop any far-reaching visions. She doesn't move people with her ideas. But she scores political points anyway. Her trump is called pragmatism. The SPD has to realize, as painful as it may be, that Merkel's method plays best to the public."

Gaaaaah!!! And Süddeutsche is supposed to be center-left. What they describe is nothing but what I described here on ET time and again: Merkel walking in Kohl's footsteps. The recipe is: do nothing in terms of real reforms, let your opponents destroy themselves, and use surrogates for the nasty jobs while you yourself should radiate an above-the-daily-squabbles image (godfather of the nation in Kohl's case, what for Merkel - godmother?). And SZ fell for it.

How did Volker Pispers say it? A man walks around a block, walking its four sides, and after every circle, steps into the same dog-shit at one corner - and wonders why it happened to him again.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:02:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
EU Slams Iran Stoning as Report Shows Spike in Executions | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 24.07.2008
The EU has rebuked Iran for the sentencing of nine people to death by stoning even as a new report by a European rights group shows the number of executions worldwide is on the rise.

The European Union said this week it was deeply worried about news that Iran had sentenced nine women and one man to death by stoning for separate adultery convictions in different Iranian cities.

A statement issued by France, which currently holds the EU presidency, on Thursday, July 24, reminded Tehran it had pledged to introduce a moratorium on stoning and urged it to abide by its commitments and international standards.

"The European Union calls on the Iranian government and parliament to abolish, in law and in practice, recourse to cruel and degrading punishment and, in particular the use of stoning, as a method of execution," the statement read.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:42:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | Europe | Libya 'halts Swiss oil shipments'

Libya's state shipping company says it has halted oil shipments to Switzerland in protest at the brief arrest of leader Muammar Gaddafi's youngest son.

It threatened further action if the Swiss did not apologise for the arrest.

Geneva police held Hannibal Gaddafi for two days after he and his pregnant wife allegedly hit two of their staff.

The couple face charges of bodily harm, threatening behaviour and coercion. They have denied any wrongdoing over the alleged incident on 15 July.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:42:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Gaddafi son sparks crisis with arrest at Swiss hotel - Africa, World - The Independent

Diplomatic relations between Switzerland and Libya were in crisis yesterday after Libya vowed "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" in retaliation for the Swiss authorities putting Hannibal, the youngest son of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, in jail for two days.

Libya announced it would halt fuel supplies to Switzerland and bar the country's ships from its ports in protest at what it called the "fabricated" and "illegitimate" charges against one of Col Gaddafi's seven sons.

Hannibal Gaddafi, 30, who has a record of run-ins with police across Europe, was arrested and jailed on 15 July after staff at the luxury Geneva hotel where he was staying alerted police to violent rows in his suite. Mr Gaddafi and his wife, Aline, who is nine months' pregnant, were arrested and charged with maltreating their domestic staff. He was held in custody and later released on bail; she was taken to hospital when she complained of feeling unwell.

Tripoli reacted furiously, with Mr Gaddafi's sister, Aisha, saying that Libya would respond on the basis of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth".

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 01:40:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | UK | Renewables mandate 'undermined'

The UK's business department, BERR, has been accused of trying to sabotage Europe's rules on renewable energy.

BERR is trying to change a line in an EU Directive which mandates that energy sources such as wind and wave should get priority connections to the grid.

Problems with getting electricity grid connection to windy sites is one of the biggest reasons for the UK failing on its current renewables targets.

Greenpeace says BERR has been caught "red-handed" undermining clean energy.

BERR's attempt to weaken the terms of the mandate was revealed in a leaked document.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:42:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Alert system reports 'all-time high' in EU food warnings -EUobserver

The European Union experienced a record number of food safety warnings in 2007, the EU's health commissioner has revealed.

In its annual report, the EU's Rapid Alert System for Food and Feed (RASFF), released by commissioner Androulla Vassiliou on Wednesday (23 July), recorded 7,354 notifications of health risks from food or animal feed that were passed on to the European Commission in 2007 - an "all-time high", according to the commissioner, and up 13.5 percent on the previous year.

Fish products were the biggest offenders with some 21% alerts originating with seafood

In 2006, the total came to 6,840 such notifications.

However, Ms Vassiliou cautioned that an increase in warnings does not mean a decline in food safety.

"Does the increase of notifications signify that our food is getting less safe? No, it doesn't. It may well mean the contrary," she said.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:44:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
EU states clash over penalties for hiring illegal migrants - EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - EU member states remain divided over a European Commission proposal aimed at setting out EU-wide minimum rules on criminal sanctions against employers who hire undocumented immigrants from outside Europe.

A Thursday (23 July) debate by EU interior ministers revealed that it was mainly countries under the biggest pressure from clandestine migration - such as Italy and Spain - which had thrown their weight behind tougher penalties, including criminal ones.

The European Commission proposal on sanctions against employers who hire illegal non-EU immigrants dates back to May 2007

Italian interior minister Roberto Maroni - whose country has gained a negative reputation for having many illegal workers in the agriculture and construction sectors - suggested further beefing up criminal sanctions by targeting firms' "assets and wealth."

On the other hand, a group of seven countries - including Germany, Finland, Hungary, Latvia, Poland, the Netherlands and Sweden - said the criminal measures would be unjustified.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:44:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Bent banana and curved cucumber rules dropped by EU - Telegraph

A majority of EU member states, including Britain and Ireland, have voted to reform rules like EC Commission Regulation No 2257/94, which caused international ridicule by stating that all bananas must be "free of abnormal curvature" and at least 14 cm in length.

Imperfectly-shaped fruit and vegetables may now be back on supermarket shelves by 2009.

France, Italy, Spain and Greece opposed the reforms and were accused by officials of unfairly seeking to protect the interests of their farmers.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:45:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
These Eurosceptics media jackals have really no shame. Torygraph continues to permeate this myth created by The Sun.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:45:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Commission Regulation (EC) No 2257/94 of 16 September 1994 laying down quality standards for bananas

EUR-Lex - 31994R2257 - EN

A. Minimum requirements

In all classes, subject to the special provisions for each class and the tolerances allowed, the bananas must be:

- green and unripened,

- intact,

- firm,

- sound; produce affected by rotting or deterioration such as to make it unfit for consumption is excluded,

- clean, practically free from visible foreign matter,

- practically free from pests,

- practically free from damage caused by pests,

- with the stalk intact, without bending, fungal damage or dessication,

- with pistils removed,

- free from malformation or abnormal curvature of the fingers,

- practically free from bruises,

- practically free from damage due to low temperatures,

- free from abnormal external moisture,

- free from any foreign smell and/or taste.

<...>

The minimum length permitted is 14 cm and the minimum grade permitted is 27 mm.

As an exception to the last paragraph, bananas produced in Madeira, the Azores, the Algarve, Crete and Lakonia which are less than 14 cm in length may be marketed in the Community but must be classified in Class II.

So, a detailed regulation on the quality of imported fruit permitted for sale, that might be found on any country's statute book. The point about the bend is a point about malformation.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:07:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In an article on CNN, I found a claim that the bent-bananas meme goes back even further: two years before the Sun article, in 1992, at an unspecified press conference, an unspecified (but obviously British) media asked a silly question from EU (er, then EC) representatives, who answered in style.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:14:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I am afraid I have a silly question of my own:  does this regulation mean that a 13 cm banana cannot be imported and/or sold within the EU?

Cynicism is intellectual treason.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 04:42:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Come on, that's exactly the reflex the UK Europhobes had: how to look at this so it sounds ridiculous.

This is about laying down standards for producers. In particular:

EUR-Lex - 31994R2257 - EN

the purpose of these standards is to ensure that the market is supplied with products of uniform and satisfactory quality, in particular in the case of bananas harvested in the Community, for which efforts to improve quality should be made.

"In the Community" would cover the French overseas departments of Martinique and Guadeloupe, for instance. It's to be expected that the big producers, like Chiquita, Dole, etc, were already applying similar standards, simply because, in their industrial perspective, it is counter-productive to work with plantations that turn out heterogenous material in terms of packaging, transport, and final consumer acceptance.

Now, either you regulate in matters like these or you leave it to "the market". In any case, you'll note that all fruit (in the US and Europe, at least) is sold in carefully-measured sizes. It seems 1) industrial process; 2) marketability 3) regulations where they exist, concur to produce a similar result.

Are industrial process or free markets held up to ridicule for laying down measured standards?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 10:02:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I was not trying to ridicule the regulation.  I was trying to understand what exactly it meant.

On that EUR-Lex page, I could not find references to penalties, rights to sell, etc.  So I am not clear just what effect such standards have in practice.

I guess they are are just "guidelines" then.

Cynicism is intellectual treason.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 02:12:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by guidelines, i mean suggestions as to what standards producers should aspire to, not legal or regulatory requirements that have to be met for sale.

Cynicism is intellectual treason.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 02:20:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It can work via the purchasers: if there is an EU standard, purchasers will simply make it a requirement ("want X amount of Y fulfilling EN 12366...").

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 03:57:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry if I assumed a certain degree of snark in your question!

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 05:13:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Predictable comments in the Torygraph, with a quick Godwin, lol:

Bent banana and curved cucumber rules dropped by EU - Telegraph

How long before the Nazi rulers in the EU turn their attention to banning imperfect people? We must rebel against every EU dirctive at every opportunity.


When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:12:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | Europe | France reveals defence closures

France is to close 83 of its military units in a major shake-up of its defence strategy, the French prime minister has said.

Speaking at a press conference, Francois Fillon said money saved would be poured back into the armed forces.

He also promised the government would help towns and villages cope with the economic fall-out when the local garrison moved on.

The changes are the biggest shake-up of defence policy in 14 years.

Mr Fillon announced that the military sites which face closure include regiments, logistic centres and air force bases.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:46:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'd pour it back into something else.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:46:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Italian Lisbon vote builds pressure on Ireland - EUobserver

The Italian senate's unanimous support for the Lisbon treaty on Wednesday (23 July) should help force Ireland into a revote, Italian politicians have said, with Ireland looking increasingly likely to stand out as the only EU country not to ratify the text.

"If ratification takes place in the other 26 states, in the autumn we will be able to ask Ireland to find a solution which will not block the integration process and go to the European elections with the new rules foreseen in the Lisbon treaty," the senate's foreign affairs committee head, Lamberto Dini, indicated.

Rome: the founding EU treaty was signed in the Italian capital in 1957

"The challenge [of solving Europe's political problems] will begin on the day when the treaty enters into force and when the [EU] countries find out they can no longer rely on the right to veto by one of them," Italian foreign minister and former EU commissioner, Franco Frattini, added.

The remarks came as all 286 Italian senators who turned up for the Lisbon vote on Wednesday afternoon gave their backing to the text, with the Italian lower house also expected to approve the treaty by a large majority when it votes next week.


by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:49:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
European panel fails to endorse milk and meat from clones - International Herald Tribune

BRUSSELS: The European Food Safety Authority pulled back Thursday from giving milk and meat from cloned animals a clean bill of health, making it less likely that such products could reach store shelves in Europe anytime soon.

The final report from the authority, an independent advisory body, was less reassuring about safety than a draft in January. It comes after an earlier, negative assessment from a European ethics committee. The European Commission, which must decide whether to approve such products, will take both reports into account.

The findings also contrast with those of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which concluded this year that such products were safe - although a voluntary moratorium on marketing them remains in place.

Europeans seem likely to take an even more cautious approach similar to that followed with genetically modified crops - which has led to years of trade friction with the United States. Surveys show resistance in Europe to biotechnology remains high, especially when it comes to food.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:03:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Gotta love that headline.

The FDA says it's safe, so when the EU FSA doesn't reach the same conclusion, it "fails to endorse".

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 04:02:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7522712.stm

There has also been a 10-fold increase in the number of incidents reported by people working in the French nuclear power industry, Criirad director Corinne Castanier said.
...
Electricite de France says Wednesday's incident at Tricastin - a huge nuclear complex near the town of Avignon - was not connected to the earlier uranium leak at the plant.
...
The rise in radiation prompted 97 EDF and maintenance subcontractors to be evacuated and sent for medical tests.

"Seventy of them show low traces of radioelements, below one 40th of the authorised limit," EDF said, adding that the incident would not affect people's health or the environment.
....
On Friday, energy company Areva said liquid containing slightly enriched uranium leaked at another of its sites in south-east France.

The same day, 15 EDF workers were exposed to what the company called "non-harmful" traces of radioactive elements at the Saint-Alban plant in the Alpine Isere region.

In Spain last May we heard about a leak that occurred in November 2007, Endesa had not reported it and had continued the plant visits scheduled for students!  There have been 2-3 more since then.  

Is there any country on earth that takes its regulation and supervision duty seriously?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:47:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
the fact that level 1 and even level 0 incidents make it to the front pages just shows one thing: journalists do not know what they are talking about, and have no sense of perspective.

It also shows that nuclear  IS taking "regulation and supervision" seriousy given that such minor incidents are being reported publicly. The hysterics are such that if such minor incidents are not reported, the industry is accused of hiding stuff, and if reported, it is accused of being unsecure.

A car crossing a red light would be a "level 0" incident if the driving industry had such a scale. This is just becoming ridiculous.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:23:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
A car crossing a red light would be a "level 0" incident if the driving industry had such a scale.

And a car refusing to stop for a pedestrian on a crossing would perhaps be "Level 1" ? And what would be your attitude to that? ;)

More seriously, though you may be right about journalists, public reporting of incidents is meaningless unless it is publicly reported. A list of incidents on a web page you have to search for, and an absolutely derisory Public Information Centre effort by the French Nuclear Security Authority (please take a serious look, if you can stop laughing, at the presentation on the Authority's site of the Public Information Centre and the documentation made available to the public (not a single link!!!).)

So the journalists may be ignorant (not surprising) but a genuine effort by the authorities to inform transparently is not there. In the case of nuclear, that is a serious matter precisely because nuclear is scary.

So I'd say they get the reporting they deserve.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 02:19:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And a car refusing to stop for a pedestrian on a crossing would perhaps be "Level 1" ? And what would be your attitude to that? ;)

Well, if you come to the capital of a EU Member this August for the meet-up, you'll see that Level 1 incidents are pretty common here. Newspapers wouldn't have space left to report on all the corruption scandals if they were discussing the driving incidents :)
by Sargon on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 05:14:53 AM EST
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Even "level 2" accidents rarely get reported, unless the perpetrator is somebody like Robert Novak
Syndicated political columnist and television pundit Robert D. Novak was issued a $50 traffic citation yesterday after he struck and slightly injured a pedestrian while driving his sports car in downtown Washington, police said.
Novak, who was on his way to work when the incident occurred, said the bicyclist was "shouting at me that I couldn't just hit people and drive away. But I didn't know I'd hit him. I really didn't have any idea it happened until they flagged me down and told me."
Bono, 47, a partner at Harkins Cunningham law firm, said: "I can tell you what I saw. I was on K Street on my bicycle, and what I saw was a guy get hit by a black Corvette convertible. I see the guy go up on the hood, up on the windshield." As the Corvette turned right from 18th Street onto the service road beside K, Bono said, "the guy rolled off the hood and landed on the street."
For those of you not into U.S. right-wing TV personalities, Novak is the one who outed Valerie Plame. Other accounts claim that the pedestrian was more seriously injured.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 05:49:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
They let Novak out of the old folks' home?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 01:12:30 PM EST
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Turns out he may really have not realized that he hit someone. He's just been diagnosed with a brain tumor.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 06:37:59 AM EST
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I wish I could come and see this, but won't be able to. However, in another European capital with a name beginning with P, where drivers also commonly commit this  misdemeanour, a certain M. JaP has his own way of dealing with them...

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 01:10:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Did he say something having his car windows broken?  Almost makes ya believe in karma....  

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 01:49:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
SPECIAL FOCUS - Obama in Berlin
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:34:30 PM EST
AMERICAblog News| A great nation deserves the truth
Remarks of Senator Barack Obama (as prepared for delivery)
"A World that Stands as One"
July 24th, 2008
Berlin, Germany

Thank you to the citizens of Berlin and to the people of Germany. Let me thank Chancellor Merkel and Foreign Minister Steinmeier for welcoming me earlier today. Thank you Mayor Wowereit, the Berlin Senate, the police, and most of all thank you for this welcome.

I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen - a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.

I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city. The journey that led me here is improbable. My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. His father - my grandfather - was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.

At the height of the Cold War, my father decided, like so many others in the forgotten corners of the world, that his yearning - his dream - required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West. And so he wrote letter after letter to universities all across America until somebody, somewhere answered his prayer for a better life.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:36:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
'We saved your ass - twice!'

'Terrorists nukular terrorists Al Qaeda terrorists mushroom cloud over Paris - boo!'

'Ich bin eine speechmaker'

Plus some stuff about global warming and things that might actually matter.

Seems like a misfire to me. It's too self-consciously faux-Kennedy, and I don't think he quite has the gravitas to make it stick.

What does Germany think?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 03:27:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
More to the point: what does the US think the Germans (and the rest of the world) think of it?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 03:47:16 PM EST
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Well, if you read the diaries on dKos, Germany and the world has completely forgotten the last 8 Bush years. Everything is peaches and creme again.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 03:50:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
From Morgenpost:

His Republican opponent John McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham followed Obama's words in "Schmidt's Fudge Haus" in Columbus (Ohio).
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 03:56:08 PM EST
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Oh god that's so poor, it makes them look like they've desperately gone out looking for something, anything German to counteract todays Obamafest and done an absolutely half-assed job of it.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:03:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Counter-protester in Berlin:



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:31:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe in reality he was paid by the Obama campaign?... Or is he an old communist the Left Party sent on a double-cross mission?...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:36:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It looks like that's exactly what they did do. For real.

Has McCain HQ been infiltrated by Obama moles? Is McCain just so plain stupid and deaf that he didn't realise this would be top-rank comedy?

Is The Onion running Campaign McCain?

So many questions. So much chortling and fun yet to happen before we have answers.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:39:09 PM EST
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The Obama campaign should put it out as a poster with the words "Would you want someone this inept in charge of Neuclear weapons" Or "Giving you someone who can make Bush look like a genius"

its as if its a bad Hollywood comedy and someones about to come in and say "from this point things can only get better". and from here on the disadvantaged loser will go on to win.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:47:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That would be the ultimate black comedy punchline.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:49:46 PM EST
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I'm going to regret this one.  I'm inserting it here, late in the game, with the hope that it goes unnoticed.  Just want it on record.  Here we go.

McCain et al WANT TO LOSE!  (Oh shit, NOW WHAT?!)

That's right.  The fix is in.  The neofascists have done enough damage to the US/world, they have accumulated enough resources, everything is in place for a DEPRESSION  that will make the '20s/'30s look like the good old days.  The Dems will get blamed for gas/food shartages in the US, Americans will be at each others' throats just to survive, and the neofascists will remind us of those good old Bush days (like you hear bullshit about the good old days of Clinton ... NONSENSE!  I was there!) and we get a world fascist authoritarian state.

That's what's comin' kids.  I said it first, here at ET.  I hope I'm wrong; saying "I told you so" in three years (probably not possible; the internet will be co-opted for the cause; communications will be MUCH more restricted) won't feel good (with MY mouth, I'll already be hauled away).

Hopefully metavision will post a 4 and that's it.  

Welcome to ET, Paul Krugman

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 07:26:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Done... with trembling pulse and tachycardia...

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 07:43:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Bless you (and I'm not religious.)

Welcome to ET, Paul Krugman
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 08:05:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Don't think you're going to go unnoticed....

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 08:03:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Oh shit.

Welcome to ET, Paul Krugman
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 08:06:48 AM EST
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I'm reasonably convinced that the same was attempted in the UK immediately after Thatcher with John Major. unfortunately for them the plan didn't work, and their loser managed somehow to actually win. so got left holding the baby when the results of their mismanagement came home to roost.

Having Obama a week into his presidency do a surprise TV presentation where he said that the Reps have robbed everyone blind and concealed the fact. the economies screwed, and due to their torturing foreign nationals theres a shortage goodwill left to help the USA out of its current financial predicament. then roll out a New New Deal to deal with the problem. Place the blame early and with a big boot before the Media gets to do it to him might just be the best plan.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 08:24:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And what do WE do to get this rosy scenario to unfold?  Do we sit by and pray that it happens?  I already told metavision I'm not a God-freak.  Not into that praying crap.

Welcome to ET, Paul Krugman
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 08:30:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Voodoo or Sacrifice I think.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 08:36:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm the engineer/scientist type.  Get back to me when you get the how-to manual together.

Welcome to ET, Paul Krugman
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 08:39:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
See 2010 Was Not A Good Year To Be President (freerepublic.com alert!)

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 09:54:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
why didn't i read the Alert before i clicked?!

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 02:27:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
OK, read most of it.  Started off strong and soon became the typical Republican bullshit line.  And I read it, why?

Welcome to ET, Paul Krugman
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 06:36:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
a comment in the Guardian:

Obama urges global fight against terror - Europe, World - The Independent

Uh, uh, uhbama is no David Hasselhoff.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 03:55:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Here is an interesting comment from a German who was at the speech in Berlin - found in the Independent comment section.

Obama urges global fight against terror - Europe, World - The Independent

I just came back from hearing Obama speak near the Victory column here in Berlin. The german crowd was polite, but not enthusiastic. Obama indirectly asked for more german involvment in Afganistan which met with silence. Also his going on about the airlift during the cold-war was a bit much seeing as the cold-war was as much a american made problem as it was a soviet one. This going on about the wall was also a bit much as he was not critical about the newest wall of exclusion namely the walls that the isreallis are builiding about which he said nothing. He mentioned getting rid of all atomic weapons - this after the US government is supporting a deal leading to increased Indian access to nuclear fuel could accelerate the atomic arms race with Pakistan. What the people in Berlin came to hear and expect was an apology from a high US official for the last years of the stupid and criminal Bush gang. What it got instead was a milk-toast speach saying nothing.

Complain about this comment

Posted by Wim from Berlin | 24.07.08, 20:57 GMT

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:01:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Unfortunately, media as usual seems to ignore the real public reaction and spins it the Atlanticist way. And the cheerleaders are: former Bavarian PM Stoiber, and the foreign policy experts of noth big parties.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:10:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Lol.  Well, I'm not sure if reality is reflected more by the comments section of the Independent or by the photos I'm looking at.  Though another comment there was hilarious: "Uh, uh, uhbama is no David Hasselhoff. "

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:13:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You can't see from photos (1) during what section of the speech they were made, (2) if the pictured are Americans or Germans. And we have two reports from the ground already.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:17:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That's a lot closer to the reaction I would have expected.

This, on the other hand, is just plain insane.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:12:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You love us!  You really love us!  Lol.

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:15:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Obama definitely got the photo-op he wanted.

I wonder if McCain's minions will use another photo-op of his to mobilise the evangelical base: Obama's meeting with Berlin's openly gay major.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:22:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Was it just me checking to see if his watch was still there in the later pictures?
by Sassafras on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 02:42:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
? The watch of whom? Have I missed some story again?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 05:36:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Remember when George Bush had his watch stolen?

The picture of Obama's hand in the crowd reminded me of that.

But I think it is just me  ;)

by Sassafras on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 07:10:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Heh, LOL! I missed that video with the wath (though I do remember that Bush visit to Albania).

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 03:55:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Oh THANK YOU GUYS for not being crazy.

The nationalism over there is scaring me.  Am I the only one who has a problem with adulation of a perceived "strong leader"?  I mean, are these people BLIND?  Don't they see what they're admiring?

Waving flags... chanting... crowds... ohhh, hypnotic, yes, Barack, we BELIEVE!

It's scary as hell.

Thank you guys, again, for seeing it for what it is instead of being mindless morons.

by Plutonium Page (page dot vlinders at gmail dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 02:51:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I am shocked and a bit horrified by the dKos thread tbg posted above.  Insane seems an apt description; not least the comments about beginning to wear flag pins again.  I suppose it's one thing to wear a pin, but another to speak in tones simply delirious.

Such frenzy seems telling about the state of the amurkan subconscious.  and these are the "good guys."

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 07:03:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Contributors here tend to be better informed and experienced in politics and economics than the run-of-the-mill Kos commenter.

That sound egotistical, and it is, but it also happens to be true.

Obama is a typical demagogue.  He has decent manipulative skills, organizational ability, party connections, and sufficient financial backing to win the presidency.  Listening to what he says, rather than some Pink Lollipop version, it becomes clear he isn't any big change from George:

  •  All Murica, all the time, and if you don't like it we'll kill you.

  •  Let's create a police state

  •  Rah, Rah predatory economic policies

Obviously there are differences as well but those, such as National Health Care, tend to come from a rejection of Conservative ideological positions in order to pacify the populace with Bread, Circuses, and Flu Shots.  ;-)

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!
by ATinNM on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 12:05:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
At last SPIEGEL put up a more critical analysis of the speech and the reaction.

Obamas Berliner Rede: Völker der Welt, schaut auf mich Obama's Berlin speech: peoples of the world, looks at me
Von Gregor Peter SchmitzBy Gregor Peter Schmitz
Berlin erlebte den Charismatiker Barack Obama in seiner ganzen Wandlungsfähigkeit: zurückhaltend, integrierend, kämpferisch, fordernd. Doch am Ende galt die Botschaft von der Siegessäule allein seiner Heimat. Berlin experienced the charismatician Barack Obama in all his adaptability: cautious, inclusive, pugnacious, demanding. But in the end, the message from the Victory Column was deemed for his home[land] alone.

It analyses the appearance of "four Obamas" - the restrained Obama, the Transatlantic Bridge-building Obama, the crafty campaigner Obama, and the save-the-world rhetoric Obama.

The article does mention the differential applause: strongest when saying things that "sentences that are actually totally self-evident", when Obama says Americans reject torture, when global warming is mentioned.

At the end, we get an explanation for the critical tone and the intro sentence I quoted in bilingual column above: all of the 40 yournalists invited after the speech were Americans.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:56:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I wrote to them and thanked them for that piece.

Very snarky, perceptive, and dead-on right.

by Plutonium Page (page dot vlinders at gmail dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 02:52:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Merkel to Emphasize German Military Limits During Obama Visit | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 24.07.2008
German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she is looking forward to her meeting with US presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Thursday but will resist any pressure to send more troops to Afghanistan.

In a press conference that ran over an hour a day before the Thursday, July 24, meeting with the presumed US Democratic Party's presidential candidate, Merkel responded to numerous questions about Obama as anticipation mounted for the senator's arrival in Berlin.

 

Tens of thousands of spectators were expected to attend his speech Thursday afternoon at the Victory Column in central Berlin.

 

While Berlin was in Obama fever ahead of the visit, political commentators stressed that the main aim of the visit was to boost the senator's fortunes in the US presidential race.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:38:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Obama Meets Merkel, Steinmeier in Berlin Ahead of Major Speech | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 24.07.2008
Obamania took over Berlin Thursday as the US presidential hopeful came to the German capital for meetings with Chancellor Merkel and Foreign Minister Steinmeier. But his main appointment was scheduled for early evening.

US presidential hopeful Barack Obama met German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Thursday for talks on key international issues.

  

German government spokesman Ulrich Wilhelm described the talks as "very open and in depth," adding they were held in a good atmosphere.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:39:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Leading article: Adulation needs to be tempered with realism - Leading Articles, Opinion - The Independent

The Democratic candidate for US President embarks today on the second half of a foreign tour designed with two objectives in mind: to convince US voters that he is no innocent abroad and to show his foreign hosts how much more amenable an ally he would be than either George Bush or John McCain. Between now and Saturday, Barack Obama will find out whether the same magic that won him his party's nomination can work for him in Berlin, Paris and London as well.

In a well-judged speech before he left the US, Mr Obama pressed all the right buttons for this second, European, section of his journey. He extolled George Marshall and the plan that helped rebuild Europe after the Second World War. He spoke of the need to listen and show respect; he praised the European preference for patient negotiation over force, and he pledged himself to cooperative efforts to combat climate change and to reform - not disband - the United Nations. The contrast with George Bush, especially the first-term George Bush, could hardly have been greater.

It is no exaggeration to say that relations with Europe have been among the most egregious, and most avoidable, failures of Mr Bush's presidency. It was not just his hubris over Iraq - although that war served to reinforce European hostility. It was his early US-centrism, his woeful inexperience of abroad, and his apparent lack of interest in how other people perceived the world. The gung-ho language and manners, as he has recently come close to acknowledging, only made matters worse.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:45:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | Americas | Obama looks to Europe as partner

White House hopeful Barack Obama has told Berliners the US and Europe have drifted apart and it is time for them to come together again.

"If we're honest... we know that sometimes, on both sides of the Atlantic, we have drifted apart and forgotten our shared destiny," he said.

Thousands of people turned out to hear him make the only public speech of his current world tour.

His words were broadcast live in Germany, where he is a popular figure.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:46:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
More like:

Obama looks to Europe to supplement his army.

by Plutonium Page (page dot vlinders at gmail dot com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 02:53:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Obama Talks of Building Bridges, Dismantling Barriers in Berlin | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 24.07.2008
No nation can face global challenges such as terrorism and climate change alone, Barack Obama told a cheering crowd of some 100,000 in Berlin Thursday, July 24, calling for a new partnership between the US and Europe.

In front of a crowd that Berlin police estimated to be as large as 100,000, Obama acknowledged differences between America and Europe, adding that "no doubt there will be differences in the future.

 

"But the burdens of global citizenship bind us together," he said, speaking under the central Berlin landmark of the Victory Column facing towards the Brandenburg Gate.

 

Partnership among nations was not a choice but the only way to protect the security of Europe and the US, the Democratic Party presidential hopeful said.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 02:46:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Obama Berlin Speech: US Foreign Service Workers Instructed Not To Attend

Although it appears most of Berlin is heading to Obama's speech today, US Foreign Service personnel will be banned from the event. And they are not happy. The American Foreign Service Association, a union of Foreign Service workers are opposing the rule. Read more from The Washington Post. And watch the speech live here.

The U.S. Embassy in Berlin has instructed Foreign Service personnel stationed there not to attend Sen. Barack Obama's public rally today, which the State Department this week labeled a "partisan political activity" prohibited under its regulations for those serving overseas.<