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by Jerome a Paris
Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 09:22:11 AM EST


The future can look good, too


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and it seems it's going to keep me busy for the foreseeable future.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 09:23:13 AM EST
Congratulations, Jerome.  In a generation or two they will write of the visionary Jerome a Paris.  Salud.

Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.
by budr on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 09:37:33 AM EST
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but this week in Germany I've essentially been hired (and I do say 'I' rather than "my bank" o, purpose) to set up the financing for two new offshore wind farms; this comes in addition to the 3 projects I'm already working on actively and several more coming behind. I might need a few clones (including one to post on ET).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 11:34:57 AM EST
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If so, what kind? I'll work part-time for expenses - fairly low-budget expenses - if it'll further the cause.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:41:10 PM EST
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Respect, brother J...

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 03:14:44 PM EST
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My copy of The New Industrial State arrived in the mail today... From the mouth-watering introduction by the editor:
... The book is also a thoroughgoing effort to displace older but still powerful neoclassical economic orthodoxies.

... But the book is also a serious warning to all who would approach the realities of economic life with the simple categories and nostrums of yesteryear. That warning caused immediate controversy, then fell by the wayside in the 1970s and after, as proponents of promarket, small-government, antiregulation, and low-tax policies gained the political initiative. Now, though, it is arguable that The New Industrial State has the tinge of prophecy.



When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 09:38:16 AM EST
Don't blame the buck for high oil price: Paulson | Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - A weaker dollar cannot be blamed for soaring oil prices as policymakers around the world tussle with the twin specters of rising inflation and slowing growth, U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said on Thursday.

Some of the world's leading oil producers and market analysts say the weak dollar is a key factor spurring many dollar-denominated commodities -- including oil -- to record highs, pushing the cost of living higher across the world.

It is rare for the United States government to say anything about the greenback beyond its mantra that it believes in a strong dollar, but developed nations are ramping up the rhetoric in an effort to get oil producers to increase supply and help tame inflation.

Don't blame us.  It's hard work, you know, being an imperial power and all.

Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.

by budr on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 09:40:25 AM EST
is that an "If we hadn't messed the dollar up, oil would be even more expensive for the rest of you" plea?

Give a politician an inch, and he'll think he's a ruler
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 11:47:56 AM EST
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Google Finance

Oil prices near $146 a barrel for 1st time ever The Associated Press - Related articles »

Dow Average's Drop Into Bear Market May Signal Losses (Update1) Bloomberg - Related articles »

Paulson: no quick fix for oil price The Associated Press - Related articles »

'Bankruptcy' fear hits GM shares BBC News - Related articles »

Saudi minister: Oil customers satisfied BusinessWeek - Related articles »

Good grief.  It's gone now, but that was the center column of Google Finance when I opened it a few minutes ago.  Is that just a faint whiff of panic I smell?

Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.

by budr on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 10:31:02 AM EST

azprom says European customers will pay $500 per thousand cubic meters by year-end

MOSCOW: Gazprom chief Alexei Miller said Thursday that Europe will have to pay US$500 per thousand cubic meters of gas by year end, over a fifth more than what it pays now.

(...)

Miller added that if oil reaches US$250 per barrel, gas could soar beyond US$1,000 per thousand cubic meters. Oil surged through a record US$145 per barrel Thursday.

At the end of June, Miller said European customers were paying an average of US$410 per thousand cubic meters, 50 percent more than the price they paid last year.

No surprise, given that gas prices follow oil prices with a lag of a few months.

And, thanks to market deregulation, we have a highly "competitive" market that uses marginal prices to set wholsale prices, and with gas-fired plants being the usual marginal plant, electricity prices are now also following oil prices. Wonderful.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 11:41:24 AM EST
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How much is that going to be in Euros, by year end?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 11:42:42 AM EST
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Well, $500 worth, so -- what, about €3?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 12:11:52 PM EST
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We're heading down the country for the week-end, in July, and I'm loading fast film into cameras because the weather forecast is so bloody appalling.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 10:54:40 AM EST
Howard Dean is God.  Obama takes the lead in Montana.

Run everywhere, win everywhere.  It's amazing how long it took to convince the party of that.

I just woke up, and we've already got an open thread!  Yeesh.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 11:32:15 AM EST
after having himself waterboarded.

(video included)

... all progress depends on the unreasonable mensch.
(apologies to G.B. Shaw)

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 12:05:41 PM EST
Investigative journalism at its finest.
by Zwackus on Fri Jul 4th, 2008 at 02:05:08 AM EST
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That's a pretty impressive video.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 4th, 2008 at 07:28:02 AM EST
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great news jerome, you so totally deserve this success.

and from south of the tracks...

Beppe Grillo's Blog


I'm publishing the letter sent to me by Antonio Di Pietro

Dear Beppe,
There are moments in the life of the nations when the citizens have to make choices. Moments in which it's no longer possible to pretend that nothing is happening and continue to believe that in the end, nothing really will change. The laws that are continually being proposed by the new government are an attack on democracy. If they are passed, the regime will win and democracy will be the loser for an indefinite period of time. It is enough to manipulate information and thanks to this, to get elected to Parliament. Then to make laws against the Constitution, against the independence of the magistracy, against the security of the citizens, against the freedom of information. One law after another.
What distinguishes a prime minister of a democracy from a dictator? The true distinctive feature is the absolute impunity of the dictator. When Silvio Berlusconi has achieved that, Italy will be in all ways a dictatorship. What's surprising is that authoritative opinion leaders have given credit to Silvio Berlusconi with qualities of a statesman and it's surprising how a part of the opposition itself has believed it to be possible to start up a dialogue with him on the reform of the institutions. Berlusconi's history speaks for itself. His numerous trials, the conviction of his lawyer, Cesare Previti, for the corruption of judges for Mondadori, his membership of the P2, the abusive occupation of the frequencies on the part of Rete 4. The list is endless as are the damages suffered because of him by our country. Above all, I'm referring to the extinguishing of the civic conscience, of the morale and of ethics. As a devastating example that Berlusconi has offered to the nation and to the young generations over almost 20 years, an example of his impunity. A situation similar to that where the village lads in the South admire the local mafia or camorra person.
Today, 27 June 2008, the Council of Ministers approved the DDL to guarantee the impunity of the top positions in the State while they are in office, so that they thus become more equal than the citizens before the law. In the last few weeks, laws have been presented by the government for which the definition of "shameful" is not sufficient. It is more correct to call them subversive and criminal as they undermine the basis of the State and are in favour of delinquents.
The suspension of trials for a year means the avoidance of the possible conviction of Berlusconi in the Mills trial in Milan.
Another one hundred thousand trials will be blocked for crimes that range from rape, to fraud, to the kidnapping of minors. The security of the citizens, so much discussed during the election campaign by Berlusconi and the Lega, is sacrificed to the interests of the President of the Council. The prohibition on publishing the intercepts once they have been deposited in the tribunal and available to the two sides in the case, and thus in fact already public, would have prevented us from knowing about Parmalat or about the local wide-boys.
The journalist who publishes the intercepts would end up in prison, his publisher would close down and the one who has committed the crime would not have to respond to public opinion.
With this law, in the United States there would not have been Watergate and Nixon would not have resigned. Italia dei Valori will propose a handful of referenda to repeal these laws against democracy and if necessary it will promote actions of civil disobedience like the publication of judicial acts. No one can stand and look any longer.
On 8 July in Rome at 6:00pm in Piazza Navona, at the same time as the approval of the law on intercepts, Italia dei Valori together with leaders of civil society are having a demonstration for the freedom of information and for justice." Antonio Di Pietro


"I freed thousands of slaves. I could have freed thousands more, if they had known they were slaves." -Harriet Tubman .
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 12:38:12 PM EST


"I freed thousands of slaves. I could have freed thousands more, if they had known they were slaves." -Harriet Tubman .
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 12:47:42 PM EST
"Soy milk" (which should really be called "soy juice") does not go well with coffee.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 02:24:57 PM EST
I once miserably failed to dissuade a maker of soy products from using the slogan 'soy good for you'. We parted company soon after.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 03:27:50 PM EST
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You need to let the coffee cool a fair bit before adding soy milk or it curdles.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 03:32:44 PM EST
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You need to drink the coffee before adding soy milk, otherwise it tastes like a mouthful of cold-pressed soy beans.

Rice milk is a believable alternative. It curdles too, but it doesn't taste like a platoon of angry beans having a confused culinary moment.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 04:39:21 PM EST
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Rice juice is a little more believable, but I think I'll stick with milk-milk.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 05:18:37 PM EST
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Qui en a marre de ce mec de frime ? Sorry, but after the last several years, it's a relief to know that my country isn't the only one whose president is an ass.

Il faut se dépêcher d'agir, on a le monde à reconstruire
by dconrad (dai {point} conrad {arobase} gmail {point} com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 04:00:30 PM EST
OMG

How is this NOT heaven?



"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 05:29:55 PM EST
there's no optics, it can't be heaven..

Give a politician an inch, and he'll think he's a ruler
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 05:32:15 PM EST
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Sounds good to me, although I doubt I'll ever be able to afford a nice place like that.

I do have a work lamp from IKEA that looks just like the ones there, though.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:46:15 PM EST
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I'm not sure such a place is actually all that expensive ; certainly cheaper than having a car... The limits to that kind of decoration are as much social as financial...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Jul 4th, 2008 at 04:20:31 AM EST
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Just got tickets to go and see Rhys Ifans and his band playing in a village hall  a few miles further into the hills on Saturday. should be fun.

Give a politician an inch, and he'll think he's a ruler
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 05:30:32 PM EST
sublime picture. en route from Brno to Vienna on Sunday for the European Championship Final (in the atmosphere-less fan zone), the ever-increasing new turbine presence across the border in Austria was (and is) interestingly juxtaposed to the largely unnecessary road developments in northern Austria.
by MaBozza (greig.aitken AT gmail.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 05:35:33 PM EST
Where's Helen?

I finally managed to grab a couple different kinds of Rogue brews after being tricked into an adventure to Trader Joe's.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:44:49 PM EST
I'm expecting a new President of Bulgaria to be announced at any time.... Parvanov doesn't do sarcasm, and that is his weakness ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 07:08:45 PM EST
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