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LQD: Lest we forget: Laos

by Metatone
Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 06:31:17 AM EST

LAOS: Film Reveals CIA's 'Most Secret Place on Earth'
LAOS: Film Reveals CIA's 'Most Secret Place on Earth'
By Andrew Nette

PHNOM PENH, Aug 22 (IPS) - It was known as the `secret war', a covert operation waged by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) throughout the sixties and early seventies against communist guerrillas in Laos.

And the most secret location in this clandestine war was the former CIA air base of Long Chen, in central Laos, a place that remain off limits even today.

A new film, `The Most Secret Place on Earth', to be released in cinemas across Europe later this year, explores this little known conflict.

The film, which previewed for the first time in Phnom Penh in mid-August, includes images of Long Chen shot by the first Western camera crew to enter the base since the communists took control of the country in 1975.


Little is known about the Lao conflict despite the fact that it remains the largest and most expensive paramilitary operation ever run by the U.S.

It was completely run by the CIA using largely civilian pilots from the agency's own airline, Air America, and mercenaries recruited from the Hmong, an ethnic tribe living in mountainous areas in central and northern Laos.

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Eberle also believes what happened in Laos in the sixties is relevant in that it shares strong parallels with the conflict in Iraq.

"Laos was the progenitor of the way America fights wars in the 21st century," he says.

"Outsourcing the war to private companies, gathering public support by falsifying intelligence and documents, embedded journalism and automated warfare including the use of so-called `smart weapons', all these methods were first tested in Laos."

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This film's analysis sets it apart from other books and documentaries on the subject, most of which justify the conflict, lauding the CIA operatives and their Air America pilots as heroes.

The reality, as Alfred McCoy says towards the end of the film, was very different. "We destroyed a whole civilisation, we wiped it off the map. We incinerated, atomised human remains in this air war and what happened in the end? We lost."

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American planes dropped an average of one planeload of bombs on targets in Laos every eight minutes, 24 hours a day for nine years, making it the most heavily bombed country on earth per capita in the history of warfare.

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And what did anyone learn? This was another 'War for Peace' that didn't work out. Ego seems to always trump sense when it comes to Empire.

Kevin

by kevinearllynch (mr_kevinlynch@sbcglobal.net) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 07:00:17 AM EST
American planes dropped an average of one planeload of bombs on targets in Laos every eight minutes, 24 hours a day for nine years

Whenever I see the expression "the Anglo Disease", I think of September the 5th, 1944.

On this day, for reasons which can only be attributed to an Anglo disease, with no military pretext, the Anglo Allies decided to completely destroy a whole town, on friendly soil : Le Havre.

Deliberately, by clear weather, hundreds upon hundreds of bombers dropped thousands of incendiary bombs, reducing this historic town to ashes, in a matter of a few hours, burning or burying alive 5000 French civilians.

Now one could now see "all the way to the sea". The town had been erased.

Ever since, the D Day celebrations are held outside the rebuilt town centre.

by balbuz on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 09:10:14 AM EST
Whereas the 1940 bombings of Le Havre might have been "explainable" (Le Havre was the main base for "Operation Seelöwe", the German planned invasion of Britain), the September bombings had no real military justification: the allied forces had already reached Belgium and the German garrison in Le Havre was encircled with no means to set-up counterattacks. The only reason was the Allies wanted to get hold of a deep-water port closer to the front lines than Cherbourg to shorten their supply lines, because Montgomery (in Belgium) and Patton (in the Northeast of France) were running short of gasoline... Le Havre was the ideal candidate for that. However, following the bombings, the port was not operational until the beginning of November, just a few weeks before the reopening of the port of Antwerp, which had been delayed by the disastrous operation Market Garden.    

A small correction: 5126 is the total number of civilian casualties in Le Havre for the whole WWII. The September 44 bombings killed 2053 persons (which is 2053 too much).

Archives Oceanes - Portail officiel de la ville du Havre

Selon les chiffres officiels obtenus par les services Enquêtes - Etat civil au printemps 1945, corroborés par Sylvie Barot, conservateur en chef des Archives municipales, il ressort que 5 126 personnes seraient décédées ou portées disparues sur le territoire de la commune du Havre durant la Seconde Guerre mondiale dont 2 053 (morts ou disparus) pour le seul mois de septembre 44.


"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 11:23:48 AM EST
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the German garrison in Le Havre was encircled with no means to set-up counterattacks.

I believe the German garrisons were stationed outside town, on the heights overlooking Le Havre.

I have never read anywhere a good explanation for this large scale slaughter, and I still have no idea why it was Ok for Nato to bomb Belgrad, or why Saakashvili the good US ally considered it was Ok to bomb Tskhinvali and then let his troops finish off the job.

I just saw images on RTR Planeta where they showed images of wide destructions; they interviewed babuhshkas who survived by hiding in caves. I just can't understand why the western media will just not present the situation as lived from the other side.

Is it incompetence ? Laziness ? Dishonesty ?

by balbuz on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 02:51:59 PM EST
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Willful blindness on the scale of the entire culture, and all of the above.  Acknowledging a culture's sins of commission is only required of the vanquished.  This is the evil side of triumphalism.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 04:37:35 PM EST
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Romans obliterated Carthage and the Greek Corinth; the "civilized" powers of the 20th century destroyed La Havre, Leipzig, Nagasaki with Hiroshima, a few other cities in South Eastern Asia... Ain't there no greater fun of triumphalism? Who are barbarians, really?
by das monde on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 08:45:34 PM EST
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Society does seem very selective about which atrocities it chooses to publicly condemn and 'remember'.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 09:47:08 AM EST
Apart from the bombing stats, which are just mind-numbingly scary, what really caught me was this bit:

Eberle also believes what happened in Laos in the sixties is relevant in that it shares strong parallels with the conflict in Iraq.

"Laos was the progenitor of the way America fights wars in the 21st century," he says.

"Outsourcing the war to private companies, gathering public support by falsifying intelligence and documents, embedded journalism and automated warfare including the use of so-called `smart weapons', all these methods were first tested in Laos."

Selective remembrance to salve our vain pride is one thing, but the way our "forgetting" translates into ever repeated mistakes really bites hard.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 10:16:43 AM EST
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First it was hidden, then avoided, then forgotten.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 04:39:15 PM EST
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"Outsourcing the war to private companies, gathering public support by falsifying intelligence and documents, embedded journalism and automated warfare including the use of so-called `smart weapons', all these methods were first tested in Laos."

I don't see the lines as exactly parallel.  The "secret war" in Laos could also be compared to the French underground resistance during WWII.  The invaders were the North Vietnamese Army fighting with and supporting the insurgent Pathet Lao. (The Pathet Lao were always closely associated with Vietnamese communists. During the civil war, it was effectively organized, equipped and even led by the army of North Vietnam. (From Wikipedia)

The CIA's "private army" were citizens of Laos (not an altogether private army), supported and encouraged by a few Americans on the ground. A large part of the strategic problem with the Vietnamese war from the American view was that the North Vietnamese/Viet Cong were politically unrestricted in their movement by international borders (similar to the Taliban in Afghanistan) and could be amply supported in operations from such sanctuaries. The Americans were otherwise restricted to the use of air power with all of its destructiveness and ineffectiveness and as in the case of Cambodia it was used illegally (from American legal standpoint). Only a few large incursions outside Vietnam proper took place, largely by the South Vietnamese Army and these were disasters.

As a matter historical interest only, I know one of the Americans who took part, on the ground, in the Laos "secret war" and met, in Thailand, the American(the so called model for Coppola's Col Kurtz) who organized, lived with and fought with the Hmong during the "war."  He is now deceased, but it would be interesting to hear his views about the war.  I am quite sure, having spoken with him for several hours, that his highly personal version would be somewhat different in scope and detail from what one is likely to see in print these days.  One could say that his life was ruined, if not completely changed, by the experience.  The experience and alcoholism ultimately took their toll on this brave and tragic figure. Though one might disagree with, or even despise, him for what he did, one would be hard-pressed to find a braver man.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 11:40:39 AM EST
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No, no, I think you misunderstand! If it is done by the so called 'West' it is not an atrocity, so it does not need to be condemned.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 10:18:14 AM EST
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American planes dropped an average of one planeload of bombs on targets in Laos every eight minutes, 24 hours a day for nine years, making it the most heavily bombed country on earth per capita in the history of warfare.

thats 591300 planeloads, Seeing as Laos has an area of 236,800 km2 thats in excess of 2 planeloads of bombs into every square kilometer of the country

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 10:55:49 AM EST
from other figures it was in excess of two million tons of bombs giving roughly ten tons per square kilometer

also theres a figure of 90 million cluster bomb bomblets dropped onto the country

ITVS: Bombies - Cluster Bombs

It's estimated that some 90 million CBU-26 bomblets were dropped on Laos (and the CBU-26 is just one of 12 different kinds of cluster bombs that have been recovered there to date).

with an aproximate 10% failure rate (some figures suggest that due to the soft nature of the wooded terrain it could be twice that) there could be 9 million unexploded bomblets still littering the countryside

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 01:57:58 PM EST
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We are going to Laos in December (my mother was Laotian, was because she now is French, still alive and well), and indeed there are vasts swaths of the land where we are told we shouldn't go. Too risky because of the bombs.

Laos is not cramped by any stretch of the imagination, but bombs sure are a deterrent to use a lot of that space...

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 03:02:19 PM EST
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Make that mother in law, not mother.

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 01:48:17 AM EST
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Yeah, it hasn't changed much since the 60s except I saw a lot of young backpackers there.  Kind of a chic out of the way place to go if you're into roughing it, or nostalgia.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 06:57:01 PM EST
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I also recall it being part of "the golden triangle" during the Vietnam War.  Vast amounts of opium was exported by the South Vietnamese Air Force, allegedly involving high ranking military and governmental officials.  During the war this was only discussed in alternative publications such as The Realist.  I don't have better references.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 at 04:51:03 PM EST
The Secret War in Laos may have been when the CIA decided drug-dealing was too profitable to leave to the Mafia.  
by Gaianne on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:26:35 PM EST
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