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Countdown to the September Paris Meetup

by Fran
Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 11:31:16 PM EST

One more week, and we will be at the Paris Meetup. Tought I put up another diary for final touches and for communication between participants. Off course spectators are also welcome to comment. :-)

Also for those who will be still present in Paris on Sunday - maybe we can start collecting ideas.

The official Meetup will start Saturday, September 20th around 13:00 at the following Place:

(UPDATE: NOTE THE LOCATION CHANGE):

Cantalou, 10 Avenue de Versailles, 75016 Paris France

Here is the google map for the location.

If there should be any change in location, it will be announced here.

Will attend:
afew
Bernard
ChrisCook and Solveig
Colman + Sam + Christopher
Crazy Horse
Cyrille
dvx
Fran
Frank Schnittger
geezer in Paris and family
Helen
In Wales
Izzy
Jérôme
LEP and estHer
linca
Melanchton
Metatone
metavision
redstar
someone
the stormy present
Trond Ove + ???
tzt
whataboutbob

Maybe:
siegestate

If there are any changes please let me know in the comment section.

Here are the links to the former Meetup diaries:
Jérôme's Paris ET meetup - September 19-21 and
Chris Cook's Paris ET meetup - September 19-21 (Round 2)
Fran's Paris ET Meetup, September 19-21, Update
LEP's [FINAL UPDATE] Diary concerning Friday evening Paris meetup.

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Countdown to the September Paris Meetup | 100 comments (100 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Hope LEP sees this diaries and posts his discoveries here, as his own diary has grown fairly big. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 09:52:52 AM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

I just posted a new final diary for Fridays meetup.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 11:19:47 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

So, maybe I should delete this one? - gets complicated if the informations are distributed over two diaries.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 11:28:53 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

This is about Saturday Lunch, LEP's is about Friday dinner.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 11:32:00 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

No, I thought this diary should be for the whole weekend, maybe even plans for Sunday.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 11:35:51 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Fair enough on the Sunday, but there's no mention of Friday in your diary, and no mention of the weekend in LEP's diary.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 11:40:41 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Perhaps we could leave it as is since I'm trying to get a headcount for Friday and mixing the two days can get confusing.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 11:55:47 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Okay! :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 12:02:15 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 4)

The Geezer will attend the Saturday meeting, as usual, and will bring his family.Please add me to the list, Fran.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:09:27 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

I am delighted to add you to the list, Geezer! And am looking forward to seeing you again. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:13:28 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 4)

The mission of everyone attending will be to post pictures of Izzy's shoes. :)

by Maryb2004 on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 10:34:01 AM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Okay, I see what I can do, but don't tell her. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 10:41:56 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Too late -- I can see you guys.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 03:29:55 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

I don't know about anyone else but I'm willing to post my mobile number here if it's considered a useful idea.

nb I'll be offline from tomorrow night until meeting everyone thursday/friday

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 12:53:32 PM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

I will post mine Wednesday night in the Final Mouffetard diary

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 12:59:46 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

I'll be arriving in Paris thursday pm (driving up from Lyon). I know there'll be people in Passy Home when I arrive but I shall be interested in convivial drinky thursday evening, preferably at a good beer pub.

Friday evening is sorted, but I'm open to suggestions for daytime strolling.

Anyway, my mobile is +44 7 913 015 565

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 01:28:14 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

dvx just mentioned in LEP's diary that he will be around Friday afternoon.

Izzy is also staying at the Passy and might be interested in joining.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 01:56:47 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Tempted to ring you up just for the heck of it.

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 at 09:53:30 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Useful. Hm.
"For a really, realluy good time call--"
:-)

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:13:17 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

I'll be there on Saturday, but will be leaving again on Sunday morning.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 01:06:16 PM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

just in case anybody's wondering about packing, forecast is dry and sunny (some broken cloud on saturday), temps around 20 degrees

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 03:21:36 PM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

NB evening temps will be cool so pack a cardigan.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 05:39:39 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

OK.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:11:06 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Weather forecast for the next weekends on Accuweather.

Sunny with temperatures around 17-18 C (mid 60s) -- a perfect summer in San Francisco :-)

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 05:04:08 PM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (3.50 / 2)

Well I definitely won't be there now ;-( unfortunately the tail end of the move will still be reverberating through my living arrangements. but I will be there in spirit.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 07:37:32 PM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

:-(

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Sep 13th, 2008 at 11:45:30 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

I know.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 01:30:56 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Dang. We have to meet for beer and chat sometime goddammit !!

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 05:38:53 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Well I have to get down to In Wales Photohgraphic extravaganza

and there were suggestions of a grand Northern experience.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 01:29:46 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Sorry, you can't make it. Would have enjoyed meeting you in person. Maybe next time.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 08:33:52 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Theres lots of people I wanted to meet. I will make it next time

Anyone there have a laptop and a webcam and does the restaurant have wireless so us distant people can drink beer at home and join in?

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 01:32:37 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Too bad! I was really looking forward to meeting you.

Could you send a cat as a representative?

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 09:39:09 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

You all would spoil them, and they'd never want to come back.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Sep 14th, 2008 at 01:30:25 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Cats are bad ambassadors, they switch allegiances.

Sorry you can't come :(

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:13:43 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 0)

Really sorry to hear that, ceebs!

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:28:05 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

So, almost all who where interested to participate and join for the meeting are accounted for. Except for siegestate who is still maybe.

Looks like there will be a nice group on Saturday.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 12:40:41 AM EST

Sunday in Paris (none / 1)

Some of us will be in Paris on Sunday. Are there any recommendations about what would be interesting to do or see.

And who will be in Paris on Sunday, besides me?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:19:47 AM EST

Re: Sunday in Paris (4.00 / 4)

The Miller's boat "Risico", with the Millers included- will be tied up at the Port de Plaisance, Paris Arsenale, at 11 Boulevard de la Bastille. We are unable to do much adventuring right now, since our bow thrusters ate a sweater in Villenuve Sur Yonne, and have suffered a severe fracture of the shear pin as a consequence. Any and all ETers who remain in Paris on Sunday are cordially invited to drop by for a decent croissant and a glass of wine or two.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:29:02 PM EST
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Re: Sunday in Paris (none / 1)

Sounds excellent!

Vote McCain for war without gain

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 08:21:48 PM EST
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Re: Sunday in Paris (none / 1)

Thanks, geezer! Sounds great, you might get an invasion on Sunday. :-)

I wrote the adress down.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 16th, 2008 at 02:02:07 AM EST
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Re: Sunday in Paris (none / 0)

Thank you, geezer. We'll make plans on Saturday and maybe we can bring something.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 05:25:44 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Eurostar website

Sunday 14 September 2008 - latest update

IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON EUROSTAR SERVICES: SUNDAY 14 SEPTEMBER TO SUNDAY 21 SEPTEMBER (INCLUSIVE)

Eurostar is now operating a very restricted timetable with very few services, and intervals of several hours between some trains. We recommend you avoid travelling unless your journey is absolutely essential.

Travellers should check-in as normal for the train times given on their tickets and we will try to put you on one of the next available trains. This could mean waiting a long time before boarding. Journey times will also be significantly longer.

I'll have to see if I can think of something, but my timetable was fairly tight anyway and it really isn't looking as though I'm going to be able to do this... :( I had a couple of hours of delay time built into my return schedule, but this is looking like more than that...

by Sassafras on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:41:38 AM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Maybe best wait until later in the week, things might improve by then, though not necessarily back to normal.

Would be a shame if you could not make it. I was looking forward to meeting you in person. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:57:58 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Maybe you should change your ticket to Disneyland Paris:

BBC NEWS | UK | Channel Tunnel traffic at a third

On Saturday the south tunnel came back into limited use, with some lorry shuttles and a reduced Eurostar passenger service operating.
Eurostar said that on Sunday it expected to run up to 10 trains each way between London and Paris, and up to five trains each way between London and Brussels.
It also said it would be operating the daily service each way between London and Disneyland Resort Paris.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 03:33:40 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Eurostar said that on Sunday it expected to run up to 10 trains each way between London and Paris

That's one train every 2 1/2 hours in each direction, which is very nearly the normal service.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 05:36:08 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

I hope so, since looking at the ferries, that doesn't seem to be an affordable option given the time constraints.

If I have to wait too long on the return journey I could miss the last connection to Cardiff. I also hate having to travel on trains where there are too many people and confusion regarding which train and where I should go since I don't hear the announcements and there is never any deaf awareness in the way they run travel services anywhere.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 06:19:43 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

If you miss the connection to Cardiff you can crash on our couch... When is your return ticket? Mine is the 21:13 arriving at 22:34.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 06:35:41 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Just remembered I booked an earlier one than last time I was in Paris - 16.13 arr 17.34. So unless there are still significant delays I should be ok. Thanks for the offer though - I'm probably worrying for no reason.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 08:33:36 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Thanks, Migeru- it's reassuring that there aren't many less trains going than normal...I'm on the same train back as In Wales, but, unless I make other arrangements, I have to be back in London by about 7.30 and preferably earlier.

I'm also waiting to find out if the children are going to come down with the virus that flattened me over the weekend...because if they're ill they may well want their mum-and their dad won't have them anyway.

A couple of days to make the decision, I think... :/

by Sassafras on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 11:57:32 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Hope you fully recovered and that your children stay well too!

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 12:44:11 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Following the fire in the Channel Tunnel last Thursday we were able to re-start limited operations on Saturday. We are currently running a restricted timetable with fewer services, longer journey times and intervals of several hours between some trains.

We advise that you consider rearranging travel planned for the next two weeks unless absolutely necessary. This especially applies if you are travelling over the weekends of Friday 19th to Sunday 21st September 2008 and Friday 26th September to Sunday 28th September 2008.

If your journey is essential, then you should check in for the train time given on your ticket and we will endeavour to put you on one of the next available trains. Please be aware that you could experience extended waiting times, particularly between Friday and Sunday when there may be a delay of up to several hours before boarding. Your journey time will also be significantly longer than normal.

As we are not operating the last trains of the day Eurostar check-in will close significantly earlier than usual:

London check-in will close at 18.45 (BST) until further notice
Paris check-in will close at 20.00 (CET) until further notice
Brussels check-in will close at 20.30 (CET) until further notice

For the most up to date travel information please consult eurostar.com (http://as1.emv2.com/I?a=A9X7Cq1FYI6t8Rf_iar3Luji1w)

If your journey is non-essential you can exchange your tickets for travel at a later date, or get a full refund up to 60 days after your travel date. Due to the high volume of calls at the contact centre we would be grateful if you could email us with your request if possible, quoting your booking reference, contact details and stating whether you require a refund or exchange. If you wish to exchange your tickets please indicate your preferred dates and times of travel. You can email us at mailto:contactus@eurostar.co.uk. Alternatively you can call us anytime up to 60 days from your travel date.

When considering alternative travel dates we suggest that you consider travel from October onwards when we expect to offer a more consistent travel experience. I will keep you updated as the situation improves.

On a positive note I would like to assure you that Eurotunnel, the operator of the Channel Tunnel, is working hard to enable additional Eurostar services to be restored following the fire.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 16th, 2008 at 03:27:05 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 6)

I'm booked on the 18.00. It's a dead cert that won't be running, and that leaves me fighting it out for a seat on the last train.

I feel a complete wimp saying this, but I'm not yet well enough to do that. I was in bed at 5pm last night and I'm on my way there now. I can't stand all the way to Paris. I wish I could, but I can't.

I've had a quick look at flights, but-believe it or not, according to the Stansted website, you can't fly to Paris from Stansted and from Luton I reckon I could fly to Hong Kong for less.

I'm really sorry not to meet you all. Next time, maybe. I hope you all have a great time :)

by Sassafras on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:21:17 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Sorry you can't make it!!! But hope that you will be fully well soon. I sure hope there will another opportunity to meet you in person.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:28:55 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

:-(

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 02:13:28 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Thank you for the good wishes :)

As it happens, I woke up this morning a rather unattractive shade of yellow. So my post-viral exhaustion is now suspected to be hepatitis A. The ironic thing is that, not having dragged myself into work, I feel better than I have for days.

Fire or no fire, it looks as if I wouldn't have been going anywhere this weekend.

But I'd like to see lots of photos :)

by Sassafras on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 07:41:40 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Are any kids coming to this event?

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 04:41:08 AM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Christopher. Maybe a few others, depending on geezer in paris - I don't think Migeru's J is coming.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 05:08:09 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

And LEP is bringing estHer with him - though I am not sure that she could still be considered a kid.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 05:22:48 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

estHer is 14+.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 05:47:00 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

What is the offical age range for kids in English? Though I know parents who still consider their 30 year olds as kids. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 08:47:20 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

depends on the day, sometimes im still deep in childhood. ;-)

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 08:48:37 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

there's no gender-free way to say it in english, unless you go back a century or so and say 'progeny' or 'descendants'.

in italian you say figlii (m) that can cover both genders.

it is odd to refer to adults as children! probably a clue in there as to national character...

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 09:05:35 AM EST
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No, it's odd the connotations that "child" has attached to it.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 09:32:12 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 0)

Um, Fran, at what age do German speakers stop referring to their children as Kinder, and what word do they use?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 09:10:23 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 0)

Well, I guess as 'Kinder' can have also the meaning of offspring, at least where I live the words 'Nachkomme/Nachwuchs' are not used in a colloguial way. 'Kinder is also gender neutral, so many use daugthers or sons if the have children of only on gender. So basically your are the child of your parents, indepentent of age. :-)But I think there are no fixed about the use of 'Kinder' in the colloguial use of the word.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 09:31:11 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Mine are 13, 7 and 4. I figure you don't call 'em kids once they stop wanting to come with their parents to this sort of thing, but that's just me.

As it happens, if there aren't other kids, mine won't likely want to come either, which hopefully won't make it harder for me to come.

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:32:24 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Not mine.

I might not even have a train to get to Paris...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 05:29:35 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Bummer, though one of my staffers from London got here this AM ok on Eurostar, she says they're not running full schedule but there are trains making it through...

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:33:17 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

if it's true they have 10 trains per day each way that's almost a full schedule. My train out is very early so I shouldn't have a problem - it's the return train that might be more iffy (in the sense that I might end up bumped to the next day).

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:38:46 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 3)

Count two more persons in. Will be interesting to meet you guys. Sorry for the late notice. It was a spur of the moment thing.

by Trond Ove on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:37:32 AM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

That's great! Looking forward to meeting you! :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 10:55:52 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Thanks! And I am looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the gang too!

by Trond Ove on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 at 02:15:59 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 3)

Hi all! I'm not sure I'll be able to be there but am trying.

tzt, who is back after a long summer spent mostly offline

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Tue Sep 16th, 2008 at 05:14:28 AM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Hi! We've missed you! I hope you had a good summer and it would be great if you are able to make it to Paris.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 16th, 2008 at 07:11:27 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 3)

After tears and tantrums I have rearranged my travel plans.

Flying Friday - arriving at Paris Charles De Gaulle at 11.20.

Leaving Monday morning on a 10.40 flight.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 16th, 2008 at 04:30:34 PM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

Sorry for all the trouble, but I am glad you are going to be in Paris and even longer than planed. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 16th, 2008 at 04:34:10 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 2)

It will be nice to be there. I'm off to bed now!

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 16th, 2008 at 04:51:35 PM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 5)

Not online much nowadays, but wanted to let y'all know I'll be there. Maybe I should have made it a surprise...

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 12:59:10 AM EST

Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (none / 1)

Great!!! am looking forward to meeting you.

I was just wondering if I should add you to the list, as I heard the rumors about your attendance through the bush drums.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:02:11 AM EST
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Re: Countdown to the September Paris Meetup (4.00 / 3)

The rumors are true... looking forward to meeting you too!

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:06:11 AM EST
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And Izzy is in Paris! (4.00 / 8)

Just got a call from her - she's on her way from the airport to my place, where she'll stay for two nights (before joining the PassyHome headquarters...)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 06:33:15 AM EST

Re: And Izzy is in Paris! (4.00 / 4)

Welcome to Europe Izzy!!!

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde

by Sam on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 07:59:33 AM EST
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Re: And Izzy is in Paris! (4.00 / 2)

Where are the pictures of her shoes, Jerome?! Welcome home, Izzy! See you tomorrow?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:54:52 PM EST
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Small change in programme (4.00 / 3)

The Firenze restaurant has just been sold, and their whole staff has changed.

The other restaurant nearby, the Cantalou, a good auvergnat is willing to open for us on Saturday and offer 3-4 different menus, including at least one fish and a salad-time main course (the others would be steak or auvergne suasage, in each case with aligot, a specialty of mashed potatoes with melted cheese which is incredibly good).

We can have either the outside terrace for ourselves, or all of the interior if the weather is too bad; both can host 40 people.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:18:00 PM EST

I should add (none / 1)

The Cantalou is located at 8-10 avenue de Versailles, ie half a block from the previous address.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:19:29 PM EST
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Re: Small change in programme (none / 1)

Does it also have a vegetarian choice?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:21:51 PM EST
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yes there is (none / 1)

that would be the fish or the salad.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:37:34 PM EST
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Re: yes there is (none / 1)

Sorry Jérôme, fish is not vegetarian. A extra large salad would be fine or some pasta.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:41:14 PM EST
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Re: yes there is (none / 1)

Sorry, just realised it was fish or salad. So salad is fine.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:42:34 PM EST
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I get confused (4.00 / 2)

with the various requirements of the vegetarians (in France, many do eat fish), so I specifically asked for several options, and I expect they'll be willing to prepare more if necessary.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:47:59 PM EST
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Re: I get confused (none / 1)

Thank you Jérôme. I know there is confusion about vegetarism. However, a fish is an animal and thus usually not part of a vegetarian diet, though it might be different in France. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 01:53:29 PM EST
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Re: I get confused (4.00 / 3)

In France, vegetarians aren't wimps, they eat pork chops. ;)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:22:18 PM EST
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Re: I get confused (none / 0)

How about chicken? Or whale? Whales aren't fish.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:30:45 PM EST
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Re: I get confused (4.00 / 2)

I agree chickens aren't fish! (and not a vegetarian choice) but the whales might just be to big to put on a plate. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:37:33 PM EST
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Re: I get confused (none / 0)

What about snails, frogs and just about anything that moves? They eat sea-weed don't they, and some of that is borderline animal/vegetable!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 05:25:26 AM EST
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Re: Small change in programme (4.00 / 2)

Fran, this is the restaurant we ate at on Saturday evening last year. We were inside at the back, about fifteen of us. Remember?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:16:50 PM EST
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Re: Small change in programme (none / 1)

Yes, thats what I thought. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:20:07 PM EST
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Re: Small change in programme (4.00 / 3)

The Cantalou is fine, a bunch of us had dinner there last year on Saturday evening. The food was surprisingly authentic, and I think everyone was happy.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:20:56 PM EST
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Re: Small change in programme (none / 0)

I personally prefer this choice, since it always faintly annoys me to travel to Paris to eat Italian food, and that place was pretty good.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 17th, 2008 at 04:32:21 PM EST
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Re: Small change in programme (none / 1)

Good, we can tell Cantal jokes.

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Thu Sep 18th, 2008 at 08:18:27 AM EST
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