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by Izzy
Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:25:28 AM EST

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This is Saturday; right?  And, yes, I was indeed at the Louvre.  But if youre not in Pqris; dont be jealous - we`re all thinking of you and making toasts to you and everything!

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:28:49 AM EST
Is that Marmite toast?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:45:32 AM EST
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You know better than that.  With whataboutbob and I both here, its peanut butter toast!

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 01:04:37 PM EST
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If there's any jelly on that as well, a Chinese Wall will be erected to protect me from hedonistic heathenism.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 01:14:29 PM EST
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Thank you Izzy, for bring the Peanut Butter!! And not just any peanut butter, but Laura Scudder's Chunky style <WOOT!!!>

Half the population is under the age of 18. Tanzania's future is NOW...join the 50% campaign!
by whataboutbob on Sun Sep 21st, 2008 at 03:53:34 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Programmes | From Our Own Correspondent | Turning to the Taleban in Pakistan

"I would rather live in the dark ages under the Taleban than be subservient to any foreign power."

The unexpected comment comes from an urbane, sophisticated and, I had always thought, Westernised Pashtun lawyer.

He wears none of the badges of Islamic piety - a beard, for example - and he normally sports a navy blazer not the local shalwar kameez.

He is a former minister with the Pakistan People's Party, the most liberal in Pakistan.

The word liberal in the Pakistani context means modern, educated, secular rather than theocratic and, up until now at least, pro-Western.

"You can't mean it," I protested. "Do you know what the Taleban were like in Afghanistan when they ran it, with compulsory prayers five times a day, do you want that?"

"Look," he said. "I can deal with Taleban, they are my own people. They come from here. I know them.

"I will be able to get around them. But the Americans never. No way."



Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.
by budr on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 11:51:12 AM EST
Oh, I feel SOOOO much better knowing you folks in Paris are drinking toasts to me/us.  Are you practicing to be a politician?

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 12:01:55 PM EST
Im so happy to have improved your day!!

Im Izzy and I approved this message.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 01:07:45 PM EST
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Fantastic, and glad to meet you!

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 02:51:34 PM EST
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I'm eating French Cheese, and bread plus drinking French wine in Sympathy

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 12:02:56 PM EST
I'm boiling some white potatoes in salt water and then I'm going to lie down and rest my back.

GRRRRRRRRR!

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 12:22:30 PM EST
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Shouldnt that be "in solidarity?"  Im sensing a veiled insult...

Im so sorry youre not here!

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 01:11:18 PM EST
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Izzy - Sympathy is the English name of a small Welsh village. In Welsh, the village is called Cwm Y Nist.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 01:17:37 PM EST
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Ceauch Y List?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 01:45:32 PM EST
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Not a thousand miles from Caol Ila, perhaps.....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 02:27:46 PM EST
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In sympathy with other people who failed to make it.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:08:36 PM EST
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From NC-based PPP, the best southern pollster (via Open Left):

We're going to release our newest North Carolina poll tonight.  I'll give you a clue:

Date  %listing economy as top issue   %McCain
1/21/08    39                           +14
5/9/08      43                           +7
8/23/08    48                           +3
9/19/08    58                           ?

Going along with today's poll of South Carolina by Ras, this would signal massive movement.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 03:45:36 PM EST
North Carolina, President:
Obama 46
McCain 46

Senate:
Hagan 46
Dole 41

Hagan's breaking through, and Dole's in the low-40s.  This is even more important than the presidential result.

This should also imply that Obama's lead in Virginia is expanding, even though we didn't get any decent pollsters on the subject late in the week (and thus haven't really seen the full impact of the boomlet on Obama's numbers).  The Old Dominion is now, I think it's fair to say, leaning to the Dems.

Guess this explains why Obama's in Charlotte tomorrow, and why McCain is now suddenly dumping 20 paid staff into the state.  (Caught the arrogant little shit sleepin' on this one.)

I thought for sure NC would snap back to McCain after the convention.  Never fully believed it was a real chance at winning come November.

I'm a believer now.  North Carolina is officially a toss-up.

Do I hear Georgia?

(grinning from ear to ear)

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 09:21:39 PM EST
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I'm not sure why McCain is doing this. I can't imagine a scenario where we win NC and not VA. We win VA we win the election, barring losing two out of three in the Rust Belt places.

In related news, should I go to VA or Missouri? I'm leaning VA since I see it as both more doable and more key, but a friend is trying to get me to join her in KC.

by MarekNYC on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 10:30:32 PM EST
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Virginia.  Missouri's just not happening this year, in my opinion.  Or if it is, we won't need it by that point, and Virginia will have flipped.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Sep 21st, 2008 at 09:50:43 AM EST
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Also, it makes sense for McCain to do this, because he's so far behind on the ground game in NC, even farther behind on it than in VA.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Sep 21st, 2008 at 09:52:52 AM EST
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Quite.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:15:57 PM EST
That's not pancakes we can believe in.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:44:17 PM EST
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Obama Pictures and McCain Pictures
see Sarah Palin pictures

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 20th, 2008 at 05:45:51 PM EST
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