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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:14:01 PM EST
German-Russian Dialogue Forum Meets Under Caucasus Cloud | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.09.2008
Delegations from Germany and Russia meet in St. Petersburg this week for the traditional gathering of minds from the the political and civil spheres of both nations. However, this year, things are different.

The next round of Russian-German intergovernmental consultations known as the St. Petersburg Dialogue begins on Tuesday, Sept. 30 with Chancellor Angela Merkel and the German delegation traveling to the Russian city to meet with President Dmitry Medvedev and members of his government.

The dialogue, which was first launched six years ago by predecessors Vladimir Putin and Gerhard Schroeder, is an open discussion forum intended to lend new impetus to German-Russian relations in a wide range of sectors, from economics and politics to education and science, cultural relations and religion.

It is supported by political and private-sector foundations and private businesses in Germany and in Russia, as well as the two governments. A cross-section of experts from all fields are represented at the event.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:17:52 PM EST
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OSCE Observers Say Belarus Election "Fell Short of Democracy" | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.09.2008
Not a single member of the opposition won a seat in Belarus' parliamentary elections, which was slammed by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) as "undemocratic."

Among the problems noted by OSCE preliminary findings on Monday, Sept. 29, as "bad" or "very-bad" was Belarusian ballot counting often taking place behind closed doors barred to independent observers, making free and fair election practically impossible.

"Despite some minor improvements, the Sept. 28 parliamentary election in Belarus ultimately fell short of OSCE commitments for democratic elections ... The election took place in a strictly controlled environment with a barely visible campaign," the OSCE said in its report.

"Voting was generally well conducted but the process deteriorated considerably during the vote count. Promises to ensure transparency of the vote count were not implemented," the monitors' report said. "The count was assessed as bad or very bad in 48 percent of polling stations visited. Where access was possible several cases of deliberate falsification of results were observed."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:18:13 PM EST
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Russia to Help EU's Chad Mission Despite Tension over Georgia | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.09.2008
ussia is providing four helicopters to the European Union's peacekeeping mission in Chad, despite simmering tension over the situation in Georgia, EU defense officials and diplomats have confirmed.

The four Russian transport helicopters are expected to begin operations in November and will provide more "flexibility" to the bloc's EUFOR mission, its operational commander, Lieutenant General Patrick Nash, said at a press conference in Brussels on Monday, Sept. 29.

"We want to be active, we want to be in places where we can react, and we want to have the element of surprise: Helicopters in a country the size of Chad give you that extra dimension. And the more helicopters I have, the more flexibility the force commander has," Nash said.

At the same time, Nash stressed that EUFOR was not dependent on the Russian contribution, noting that it represented less than "one third" of the mission's current helicopter capabilities.

Consisting of 3,700 soldiers, EUFOR is the EU's largest ever military mission.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:18:33 PM EST
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Swedes and Dutch best EU broadband performers - EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Sweden and the Netherlands are the best EU performers when it comes to broadband internet, while Bulgaria and Cyprus come last, according to a report by the European Commission.

"Both countries [Sweden and the Netherlands] have a favourable socio-economic context, with a high propensity to use advanced services and a competitive environment that has ensured affordable prices and high speeds," says the commission in its paper on broadband performance in the EU member states.

On average, some 36 percent of EU households currently enjoy high-speed internet access

To measure that performance, Brussels is using a so-called Broadband Performance Index (BPI) based on a series of factors, including speed, rural coverage, affordability, innovation, as well as socio-economic dimensions.

Denmark, the UK, France and non-EU member Norway follow Sweden and The Netherlands, while Poland, Romania, Cyprus and Bulgaria come last.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:18:58 PM EST
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EU extends nuclear co-operation with India - EUobserver

The European Union has extended its civil nuclear co-operation with India in a move championed by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who is expected to sign a bilateral deal with the Indian prime minister on Tuesday (30 September).

The move, which comes despite India not being a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, echoes a similar agreement signed between the Asian country and the United States.

Nicolas Sarkozy hopes to strike a bilateral deal with India while extending EU civil nuclear co-operation with the Asian country

The development was announced following a EU-India summit in Marseille on Monday (29 September).

Additionally, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso hailed a "joint action plan on climate change" sealed with India, adding that civil nuclear co-operation would be extended with the Asian country on nuclear fusion.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:20:01 PM EST
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France Embraces Nuclear Cooperation With India | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.09.2008
The European Union and India ended their summit with the EU agreeing to offer a tentative deal on nuclear energy cooperation. France, however, was less cautious, vowing to help India with a new nuclear trade pact.

The meeting between India's Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and European Union leaders in the French port of Marseille ended Monday, Sept. 29, with an agreement to explore "the possibility of EU-India cooperation in civil nuclear research and development," However, differences remained over the limits which should be placed on such cooperation.

A draft prepared by the EU called for cooperation "in a manner consistent with the international non-proliferation regime."

But India, which has not signed the UN's non-proliferation treaty (NPT) and is wary of signing any declaration which appears to commit to it, insisted that the more general phrase "consistent with their respective international commitments" be used.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:23:53 PM EST
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India to showcase thorium technology at IAEA meet-India-The Times of India (Sept. 25th)
India may be waiting for the US Congress to clear the Indo-US civilian nuclear deal so that the country can begin importing uranium from the NSG countries, but that doesn't mean that the government has given up on thorium as a source of nuclear energy.

India will showcase its indigenous thorium technology at the 52nd general conference of the IAEA, beginning at Vienna on Monday.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 05:42:32 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Europe | Finland tightens gun permit rule

Finland has introduced stricter rules on gun permits, following a school shooting in which 11 people died.

Handgun permits would no longer be granted to first-time applicants, the interior ministry said.

Instead, they must train for at least a year at a gun club before being allowed to apply for a permit.

All applicants must also provide a note from a doctor about their mental health and sit an interview with police. The new rules cover pistols and revolvers.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:20:35 PM EST
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Silly me wonders: Why allow handguns at all?

Also, does anyone know if the gun legislation in Finland is different than in other northern countries?

by Nomad on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 04:02:57 PM EST
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Why allow alcohol? Tobacco? Fishing? Knitting? Motorcycles? Stupid gameshows? Music?

I hope you get my point.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 05:41:45 PM EST
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Handguns are not hunting implements. They're manhunting implements. There is no non-sociopathic use for them other than police/military work.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 06:21:14 PM EST
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Sure there is. Target practice. It is a pasttime many peolpe enjoy. That's definetly a non-sociopathic use, isn't it?

Now, I have two bayonets at home. Some people would argue they really have no civilian use and that the police ought to kick my door in and take my bayonets away from me.

I like my bayonets. I have them on the wall and use them as candle holders. They're pretty, they're unusual and I like them. The state has no moral right to take them from me as long as I am a honest law abiding (even if non-TV licence paying) citizen.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 06:37:21 PM EST
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I have a couple of nukes at home. Some people would argue they really have no civilian use and that the police ought to kick my door in and take my nukes away from me.

I like my nukes. I have them in my kitchen and use them as weights for my scale.
They're pretty, they're unusual and I like them. The state has no moral right to take them from me as long as I am a honest law abiding citizen. An I even pay TV taxes.

Forget about "moral" rights, that's an unhelpful qualifier. The state has the right and the moral duty to do so. If some people must have weapons as decoration, restrict it to very old weapons, make them unoperable and a criminal offence to make them operable again.

As for target practice, that's a strawman. Shooting is an Olympic sport, yet somehow 9-mm shooting is not. You can seriously hurt someone with a compressed air cun, yet killing is highly unlikely. There you go, target practice is no excuse for handguns. It's even less excuse for having handguns at home. They could be kept at the practice centre.

We don't have to swallow the NRA propaganda lines whole.

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 01:40:48 AM EST
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Nukes are not handguns. There is no chance of destroying an entire city with a handgun. The comparison just doesn't make any sense.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:17:55 AM EST
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It certainly makes more sense than your argument.

You say that the state has no right to stop you from having something that you like simply because in the past you haven't been known to use it to kill someone.

I like my nukes. They are wonderful.

(besides, in most hands a nuke would be FAR less dangerous than a handgun).

"It failed because Nacy Pelosi said some unkind things about George Bush in her speech"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 11:09:34 AM EST
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I don't understand why I can't have fun in Finland using my CAR-15 submachine gun for target practice.

So the argument of target practice is nonsensical. Automatic rifles are banned in Finland on certain grounds and a certain philosophy - what makes handguns so eminently more useful on practical grounds(which excludes target practice) compared to automatic rifles that they do not fall under that ban?

by Nomad on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 03:01:52 AM EST
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Well, I don't think automatic rifles need be illegal. As long as there is strict regulation. We have that in Sweden for example, 40,000 people have fully automatic 7.62 mm assault rifles in their weapon boxes at home. They're members of the reserve.

If they can have it, others should also be able to have it, if they can pass extremely strict regulation.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:21:03 AM EST
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In Finland there is an unspoken folk memory (weapons were cached - not by the government - in case of failure of the armistice at the end of the Third War against the Soviets).

If the Russians were to have invaded, every one of them would have been targets in occupation - whatever the cost. So today = lots of guns just in case - and all the young men trained to use them.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:01:56 AM EST
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So it does boil down to a culture of fear - of the Russians in this case.

[Starvid's Rysskräck Technology™]

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:07:32 AM EST
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Most Finns would take offence at the Fear Factor. It is just common sense - an insurance policy.

However Jokela and Kauhajoki have been tragic side effects. I think we will see a ban on private ownership of handgun or storage and use only in secure gun clubs. Also I expect a complete ban on semi-automatics and automatics. There will be political support because there is majority support in the population.

Nobody will dare touch shotguns and hunting rifles. They are part of the farm and forest heritage that politicians dally with at great risk. While only a minority of Finns are licensed shoot moose, wolves, bears or waterbirds, almost all Finns regard themselves as people who live closely and respectfully to nature.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 12:11:11 PM EST
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If they can have it, others should also be able to have it

I agree with you there - which is exactly why I argue to keep gun possession to the utmost minimum, including weaponry meant for reserve forces.

by Nomad on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 10:49:57 AM EST
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Did you ever see Bowling for Columbine? Remember the scene in the Canadian shooting range, and how all the shooters considered their handguns a sporting implement? Moore made (and threw away and ignored) an important point in that movie: It is not the availability of handguns as such that is the problem, but rather (particularly in the US) the culture of fear (euphemistically called "self defense" or "armed response") that is used to justify it.

School shootings are a different kettle of fish, obviously. These seem to be about alienation, marginalization, the perception of having failed just when real life is about to begin. (And if they couldn't get a handgun, they'd probably just use a shotgun and make an even bigger mess.) And whenever I read about a school shooting I wonder not about what reasons these young men might have had to act out, but how many other young men (and how many young women!) have simply "sucked it up", surrendered, internalized without complaint the crap that gets dumped on them. In short, school shootings are a wakeup call for the rest of us. To concentrate on the weapons is to ignore this fact, and these people.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 03:33:49 AM EST
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Moore made (and threw away and ignored) an important point in that movie: It is not the availability of handguns as such that is the problem, but rather (particularly in the US) the culture of fear (euphemistically called "self defense" or "armed response") that is used to justify it.

That's because he wanted to do a polemic against the NRA and sort of stumbled upon the culture of fear angle. But that's not what he wanted to talk about: he really just wanted to poke fun at Charlton Heston.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 03:37:34 AM EST
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No matter.

It seemed that what mattered was not at all the availability of guns but the culture of fear.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:20:09 AM EST
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That is true.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:24:32 AM EST
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Instead, they must train for at least a year at a gun club before being allowed to apply for a permit.

What's the reason for this? Have there been too many school shootings in which the gunman misses? One could have a 1-year delay to eliminate impulsive purchases without the requirement to train.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 04:17:46 PM EST
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That avoids patient but lazy purchase.

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 05:33:31 PM EST
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Maybe instead they should require one-year of anger-management control, first-aid, and, most of all, assisting physical therapists who work with gun-shot victims.  Seems like that use of time would be more productive and to the point.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 09:54:53 PM EST
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Italy arrests scores of suspected mobsters - International Herald Tribune

ROME: Italian police made sweeping arrests against the mob Tuesday, targeting a powerful clan as well as three suspects linked to a recent gangland-style slaying of six African immigrants near Naples, authorities said.

In a series of raids in Naples and surrounding areas, where the Camorra crime syndicate is based, police also seized assets worth €100 million ($143.5 million) and weapons, including two AK-47s believed to have been used Sept. 18 against the Africans, police and government officials said.

Interior Minister Roberto Maroni hailed the operation as a serious blow to the Camorra organization.

"We have waged war on the Camorra," Maroni said. "We want to exert pressure like never before and keep this pressure up until the war is won."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:28:06 PM EST
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While I await de Gondi's (potential) deconstruction of this news, I wonder if Robert Saviano's book Gomorra (or the film based on it) has had anything to do with this (apparent) more concerted crackdown on the Italian mob.

Does anyone know how the film has been received in Italy?



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 10:05:45 PM EST
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The film was well received by the critics but was not a box office hit. It will represent Italy as a Oscar candidate for best foreign film. Good luck!
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 06:19:48 AM EST
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de Gondi: The film was well received by the critics but was not a box office hit. It will represent Italy as a Oscar candidate for best foreign film. Good luck!

Good luck indeed!

Any thoughts why it was not such a hit at the box office?  Might it be because it cast a bad/embarrassing light on Italy?  (This phenomenon seems to be quite prevalent among Chinese movies, Exhibit 1: To Live 活著, which is widely praised by foreigners, but pretty much universally criticized and scorned by Chinese.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 07:54:32 AM EST
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The film came out in summer when everyone goes on vacation. I expect it to be re-released around Oscar time.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:45:52 AM EST
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The maxi-blitz against the Casalesi gangs demonstrates that when the state wants to be effective it is capable, just as it was after the assassinations of Falcone and Borsellini in 1992. Operations of this sort have always been prompted by a political response to public outcry. Once the clamour dies down, political power will quietly and almost imperceptibly sabotage the results achieved by law forces and the judiciary branch.

What's important is to hit the military branch of organized crime and its immediate source of revenues as high profile "get tough" actions for which the political class will claim exclusive credit. When the investigative judges seek to expand investigations to the political and industrial humus that thrives in syncretism with the gangs, a preventive media campaign already in place will block their efforts.

Police believe the Camorra orchestrated the slayings to punish the Africans for getting involved in drug trafficking, one of the Camorra's lucrative activities.

This is incorrect. It resulted in one riot immediately following the massacre for which the rioters offered to make amends and pay damages.

The judge in charge of the case issued a warrant charging the assassins with "massacre with the scope of terrorism." None of the victims was involved in drugs, racketeering or prostitution. Further, the area where drug trafficking- under the control of the Nigerians- takes place is well known to everyone and is at a distance of several hundred yards. Had the Camorra wanted to attack the Nigerian drug trafficking which is already they would have gone there.

Names of three of the alleged killers arrested had been indicated by Saviano in an article published in la Repubblica last September 22. In an interview Saviano advanced the hypothesis based on indications from the Combonian missionaries who work there that the Camorra is seeking to drive the African population away from Castelvolturno since the area is likely to become an area of intensive urban development in the future.

Weeks ago, Italy sent about 3,000 soldiers to major cities and tourist-sensitive sites to beef up security.
Should read:
Weeks ago, Italy sent about 3,000 soldiers to major cities and tourist-sensitive sites to offer photo opportunities for tourists.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 09:44:34 AM EST
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Britons forced to dip into savings for first time since 1958 - Times Online

Britain's overstretched households have collectively spent more than they earned and resorted to dipping into savings to meet soaring living costs for the first time since the late 1950s, when Harold Macmillan was Prime Minister.

The bleak picture was revealed today in official figures, which laid bare the full scale of the squeeze on families as the economic downturn forces the cost of living to spiral upwards and household incomes to grow only weakly.

The intensity of the crunch on family budgets was emphasised as the figures also showed that consumer spending in the second quarter dipped by 0.1 per cent, registering its first outright fall since early 1995.

The figures suggest that consumers resorted to cutting back on spending between April and June after being forced to draw down on their savings during the previous three months.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:28:28 PM EST
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Stormclouds gather as Italians are told to pay up for a rainy day - Times Online

Italians are noted for their aversion to paying taxes but this time residents of Ravenna can be excused for saying "no" to the latest wheeze dreamt up by local bureaucrats: a rain tax.

Arguing that heavy rain causes severe damage to infrastructure, buildings and agriculture in the Po valley, the authorities in the Emilia Romagna region have quietly added 3 per cent to water bills to maintain and improve drainage systems after downpours. The Ravenna water board - which is so enthusiastic about the new tax that it wants to backdate it three years - claims that the payments will save it €1 million (£800,000) a year.

Consumer organisations in Ravenna are urging householders not to pay up. "This is just another tax in disguise," Roberto Passino, spokesman for a protest group, said.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:29:19 PM EST
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Gurkhas win High Court battle to stay in the UK - Telegraph
Gurkhas who fought alongside the British Army have won their battle to settle in the UK following a High Court test case.

The result was welcomed by actress Joanna Lumley, whose late father served with the 6th Gurkha Rifles, as a chance to "right a great wrong and wipe out a national shame that has stained us all".

The six claimants who led the battle by 2,000 Gurkhas for the right to live in the UK included veterans of the Gulf War and Falklands conflicts who currently live in Nepal and Hong Kong.

They all applied to settle in the UK but were denied entry by immigration officials because of a policy that barred those who had not served since the Nepalese fighters' base moved from Hong Kong to Kent following the island nation's handover to China in 1997.

Their lawyer argued in the judicial review that all other foreign soldiers serving in the British Army are allowed to settle in the UK and the country owed the Gurkhas a "special debt" of gratitude for their brave service, which saw 50,000 killed and 13 win Victoria Crosses.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:29:56 PM EST
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I don't know about other countries, but the UK has awlays had a pretty shitty attitude towards ex-soldiers. Fine if they can march up and down every now and then and support the current militarised status quo, but caring for injuries or long-term ptsd is something they'd just rather not do.

There is also the issue that a post-colonial country also encourages large numbers of non-residents to join its army. and then, at the end of their service, to quietly go back to the country they wanted to escape with next to no pension, support or medical backup having wsted 20 or more years of their lives when their ambition could have better served them establishing themselves in the local community.

So this is a good decision, but imo it's only a start. We owe a duty of care to all who have served in the armed forces, a duty so far callously evaded.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 05:18:14 AM EST
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Helen: Fine if they can march up and down every now and then and support the current militarised status quo, but caring for injuries or long-term ptsd is something they'd just rather not do.

Must be another Anglo-American disease.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 07:58:21 AM EST
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No. The French have been worse.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 08:03:57 AM EST
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gk: No. The French have been worse.

Loathsome.

And yet, is it possible that attitudes and policies have significantly improved since then?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 08:44:48 AM EST
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EU to introduce 'virtual strip searches' at airports by 2010 - Telegraph
Digital body scanners which leave little to the imagination will be used by airport security on passengers travelling across the European Union within two years.

According to a draft European Commission regulation, seen by The Daily Telegraph, the new millimetre wave imaging scanners are to be used "individually or in combination, as a primary or secondary means and under defined conditions" to provide a "virtual strip search" of travellers.

The new EU regulation, which will be binding on Britain, is intended to enter into force across the continent by the end of April 2010.

Dominic Grieve, Shadow Home Secretary, stressed that while body scanners may be an effective security tool "the implementation must be carried out by the British government in a proportionate manner, based on UK security requirements rather than the dictates of Brussels".

"Ministers need to explain publicly and transparently what these proposals are and why they are suitable to the UK," he said.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:30:16 PM EST
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The Guardian | 1.10.2008
Scientists have uncovered an ancient and elaborate source of pain relief that is based purely on the power of the mind, according to research published today.

Brain scans of volunteers who were subjected to electrical shocks revealed that Roman Catholics felt less pain than atheists and agnostics when they were shown a painting of the Virgin Mary.

They also tested them with the Mona Lisa. I wonder what would have happened with a picture of Darwin?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:28:33 AM EST
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gk:
electrical shocks

I read that as 'electoral shocks'.

Isn't this research just slightly odd? Someone must have thought 'I know - we'll plug Catholics into the mains, show them pictures of the virgin mary, and see if they feel less pain.'

Okay.

Even stranger is that there may have been grant money for it.

More seriously, it seems to be evidence for just how deep symbolic imprinting can be.
 

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 06:38:00 AM EST
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Even stranger is that there may have been grant money for it.

I don't know what the convention is in this field, but the abstract doesn't list any funding agencies. Two of the authors are from medical departments, two are theologians, and two are philosphers.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 06:50:43 AM EST
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SPECIAL FOCUS - European Banking Crisis
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:15:08 PM EST
Europe Props Up Crumbling Banks as US Rejects Bailout | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.09.2008
European governments were forced to rescue a number of financial institutions hit by the US-born crisis, sending stock markets plummeting. Washington's rejection of a $700-billion bailout caused world markets to plummet.

Only a few weeks ago, banks in the euro zone financial sector were said to be safe from the US-born financial crisis, but now, as the global financial situation gradually worsens, five European governments have had to step in to prop up financial institutions.

Separately, news emerged late Monday, Sept. 29, that the US House of Representatives rejected a $700 billion measure to rescue the failing American financial system. The bailout bill was defeated after many House Republicans ignored their leaders' pleas and voted against it. A majority of Democrats voted in favor of the plan.

"I feel they've taken leave of their senses," said European Union Trade Commissioner Peter Mandelson of US lawmakers Monday in an interview with BBC, "and I hope that in Europe we will not see politicians and parliamentarians replicating the sort of irresponsibility and political partisanship that we have seen in Washington."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:17:33 PM EST
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Europe scrambles to save banking system - EUobserver

European authorities in Brussels, Frankfurt and at EU member state level are scrambling to save the continent's financial system after bank stocks plunged when US lawmakers rejected a $700 billion bailout of Wall Street on Monday (29 September).

Banks are petrified of lending to one another for more than one day, requiring central banks to flood their coffers with the money they need to stay in business.

After yesterday's part-nationalisation of Belgo-Dutch banking giant Fortis and the nationalisation of the UK's Bradford & Bingley, Belgium-based Dexia, the biggest provider of lending to local governments in the world, could be the next financial institution to be rescued by taxpayers.

In an email from Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme, the country's federal government reached an agreement with Belgium's regional assemblies to jointly support the bank, Bloomberg News reported

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:19:26 PM EST
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Belgium and France prop up Dexia - International Herald Tribune

PARIS: Dexia, a French-Belgian lender, received a capital injection of more than $9 billion from public shareholders on Tuesday as a deepening global credit crisis continued to shake European banks. Meanwhile in Ireland, the government backed all deposits in the country's banks.

After all-night negotiations, the Belgian government announced that it and other Belgian stakeholders would invest $4.26 billion in Dexia. The French government will contribute $1.42 billion, the French state-controlled Caisse des Depots $2.84 billion and the Luxembourg government $518.82 million, according to a statement from the Belgian prime minister's office.

Shares in Dexia, which had been suspended at the open, vaulted 18.1 percent to €8.45 in late morning trading.

"The market is encouraged, this restores confidence" said Georg Krijgh, an analyst at Rabo Securities in Amsterdam. "It shows the government is supporting the banks and makes Dexia one of most solvent in the region, with Fortis and KBC."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:21:40 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Business | Second Belgian bank gets bail-out

Dexia has become the latest European bank to be bailed out as the deepening credit crisis shakes the banks sector.

After all-night talks the Belgian, French and Luxembourg governments said they would put in 6.4bn euros ($9bn; £5bn) to keep it afloat.

Shares in the Belgian-French bank fell 30% on Monday before being suspended on Tuesday as the bail-out was announced.

It is the second bank rescue in days by Belgium and its neighbours. On Sunday Fortis bank was partly nationalised.

This latest move by European governments to shore up another bank under pressure came as global stock markets plunged after the US House of Representatives rejected the White House's planned $700bn bail-out package.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:31:33 PM EST
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...appear to have done a

Midnight Runner

Come on, Eileen....!

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 08:47:54 AM EST
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EU Castigates US Congress Over Bailout Failure | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.09.2008
As the US financial crisis continues to unsettle global financial markets, Brussels has said American legislators need to start meeting their obligations. But will the strong words have any effect?

In an unusually strong statement, the European Union has called American lawmakers to order for failing to reach agreement on a $700 billion plan to shore up foundering financial institutions and markets.

"The US must take its responsibility in this situation, must show statesmanship for the sake of their own companies and for the sake of the world," European Commission spokesman Joseph Laitenberger told journalists.

The statement came after the US House of Representatives narrowly rejected the bailout plan on Monday, September 29.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:23:23 PM EST
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Sarkozy Holds Emergency Meetings as French Banks Reel | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 30.09.2008
French President Sarkozy was to meet with French banking and insurance chiefs Tuesday in the wake of the refusal of the US Congress to approve a finance bail-out.

The aim of the meeting at the Elysee Palace is to "review the situation of the financial institutions as well as the availability of credit to households and companies," Sarkozy's office said Monday, but the defeat in the House of Representatives of the plan to rescue the US finance sector will add urgency to the talks.

Last week, Sarkozy had vowed that the French state would come to the aid of any financial institution at risk of failing, to ensure that depositors did not lose any of their savings.

Late Monday, the governments of France, Belgium and Luxembourg agreed in principle to inject 6.4 billion euros ($9.2 billion) into the struggling Franco-Belgian financial services group Dexia.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:24:44 PM EST
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This morning's Canard Enchaîné reports that France's largest savings bank, the Caisse d'Epargne, is in need of cash.

Caisse d'Epargne has issued a denial.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 02:17:02 AM EST
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[Drew's WHEEEEE™ Technology]

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 02:28:27 AM EST
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Any banks which is suspected is dead in the water. Expect a bailout plan for Caisses d'Epargne in the next 24 hours...

(This one will be fun to negotiate: the Caisse des Dépôts, the usual suspect for a capital injection, is pissed off at Caisses d'Epargne for their take-over of Natexis - it was done in a hurried way while the previous boss of CDC was in the hospital, against his specific instructions, robbing CDC of its influence in the company)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:47:18 AM EST
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I've been waiting for this bit of fun for over a year now, counting the nuts moving in and out of "the squirrel's" coffers.

Expect fucktard Millaud to pull a last-minute stunt like taking over the floated remains of Natixis, that would give him a few billions in relapse (he doesn't like the market value of natixis, which is just a fraction of its net asset value, because assets are overvalued of course, so he could eliminate the "market" in the "value").

Pierre

by Pierre on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 05:41:36 AM EST
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The Credit Crunch: Banking Crisis Leaves Europeans with Bill in the Billions - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

This week Europe has fallen deeper into the credit crunch. With multi-billion euro bailout packages, Germany, Britain and the Benelux states have saved banks from collapsing.

Hypo Real Estate, Fortis, Bradford & Bingley. Three European banks nearly collapsed in the course of just two days on Sunday and Monday, showing that the Wall Street financial crisis is pulling European companies into its pincers at an ever-faster clip. With trust between banks waning, analysts believe Europe is threatened with a serious credit crunch.

 The logos of Europe's crisis banks: The crisis is accelerating here and pulling an increasing number of institutions into its pincers. In order to protect the financial system from collapse, governments across Europe are being forced to intervene. Britain, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands all began spectacular rescues at the start of the week:

  • the British government nationalized large parts of mortgage lender Bradford & Bingley on Monday, taking over some €63 billion ($90.6 billion) in bad loans;

  • in Germany, the government is providing a massive loan package together with a consortium of banks to prevent the collapse of the Munich-based Hypo Real Estate.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:25:54 PM EST
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Fallout for Dutch-Belgian Bank: With Bailout, Fortis Is Back Where it Started - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

With the forced sale of its Netherlands activities of ABN Amro, Dutch-Belgian banking and insurance company Fortis will be back were it started. In a little over a year, Fortis has changed from a prestigious financial institution to a pariah in the banking world.

AFP

Fortis headquarters in Brussels

Over-confidence, bluff and arrogance have proved an almost fatal cocktail for Fortis which was saved from collapse by a financial injection of almost €11.2 billion on Sunday.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:26:15 PM EST
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The World From Berlin: 'No More Cause for Feeling Schadenfreude' - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
THE WORLD FROM BERLIN 'No More Cause for Feeling Schadenfreude'

With the government bailout of Hypo Real Estate Holding Monday, the now-global financial crisis has arrived and reared its ugly head in Germany. Commentators here largely approve of the measure, but they also want more government action -- and less anxiety -- soon.

A trader in Frankfurt watches anxiously as the effects of a government rescue plan of Hypo Real Estate affects the German market. Last Thursday, German Finance Minister Peer Steinbrück stood before the German parliament and tried to assure its members that "The United States is the source of the crisis, and it is the focus of the crisis." Four days later, Steinbrück launched the largest financial rescue action in postwar Germany, offering €26.6 billion ($38.3 billion) of a combined €35 billion line of credit to bailout Hypo Real Estate (HRE), the country's second-largest commercial property lender, which had considerable business in the US real estate market.

For Germans and Europeans, the crisis has arrived. On Sunday, the governments of Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg took partial control of struggling Benelux bank Fortis. On Monday, Britain seized control of mortgage lender Bradford & Bingley, and Iceland's government took over Glitnir, the country's third-largest bank.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:27:41 PM EST
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Speed of European response leaves US trailing

The recent amplification of the US-bred financial crisis has produced at least one salutary if unexpected lesson. Europe has so far shown that it works in practice, even if it still does not do so in theory.

In the past 48 hours, various European countries have scrambled to put together bail-out packages for troubled financial institutions in Germany, the UK, France, Belgium, Ireland and Iceland. And while this is by no means the end of the story, it has demonstrated that the European authorities and individual national governments can move very quickly to try to stem a growing crisis of confidence in the European financial system.

In the past 10 days, the conventional wisdom was that Europe would never be in a position to act as swiftly to rescue its financial industry with a comprehensive plan such as Washington's $700bn (€498bn) troubled asset relief programme. Yet the plan has yet to be approved, with all the political modifications demanded by US lawmakers. No evidence has so far emerged that Europe will need to orchestrate a similar plan of such magnitude.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 04:37:32 PM EST
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That was my first reaction: "How embarrassing for USAns: At least five Europeans countries got their shit together in 48 hours to pull off these rescue packages, while USAns took over one vaudevillian week and still blew it in a farce of partisan pettiness."

As David Brooks put it in his latest column:

This generation of political leaders is confronting a similar situation [as Franklin Roosevelt did in 1933], and, so far, they have failed utterly and catastrophically to project any sense of authority, to give the world any reason to believe that this country is being governed.

However, on second thought, even if a large chunk of those who voted against it did so on "anti-socialist" grounds and because Nancy Pelosi hurt their feelings, the effect was that Congress rejected a deal that most of the public did not like at all, and that government leaders were trying to half-force, half-sneak by the people.

In short, I agree with paving:

You have to understand how important this was today, for the American voter.  We've had absolutely NO say in the past 8 years.  Dissent, public opinion, etc, have been ignored by both parties. ...

Suddenly the people are remembering that if they disagree with the actions of their govt. there is a possibility that the govt. will change and act differently.

Unfortunately, while Bernie Sanders is taking this opening to show some some leadership, I'm afraid in the end, "the people" are going to get steamrolled and the current package is going to get jury-rigged into effect anyway:

Senate to Vote Wednesday on Bailout Plan - NYTimes.com

Senate leaders scheduled a Wednesday vote on a $700 billion financial bailout package after agreeing to add tax breaks and a higher limit for insured bank deposits in a bid to attract enough votes to reverse a shocking defeat in the House and send legislation to President Bush by the end of the week.

After a day of behind-the-scenes maneuvering, top lawmakers said the Senate proposal would include a tax package as well as a plan endorsed on Tuesday by both major presidential candidates and the Bush administration to raise government coverage for bank deposits.

"It has been determined, in our judgment, this is the best thing to move forward," said Senator Harry Reid, Democrat of Nevada and the majority leader, in announcing the surprise move. "This is good for the country."



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 10:56:11 PM EST
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GRrrr make the plan more acceptable by adding TAX BREAKS???

Holy shit.
So, we used to have a plan that could fail because adding $700 billions (likely more) to the debt was bad. So, let's have tax breaks, so likely more becomes certainly more.

On top of that, it's clearly Republicans, a minority party with much diminished support in the population, taking the economy hostage in order to get a final loot. This must be said, and screamed, and I hope it is soon all over the news. Yet, at the moment, I don't see it.

To me, including tax cuts (hell, what are they doing in a financial crisis rescue package? Can I have provisions for the use of recycled materials?) makes it a no deal.

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 01:48:14 AM EST
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Clearly Dodd/Frank is the bestleast bad plan that could be had before the November elections. Any more tinkering will just make it worse, especially if it's to appease the clueless (or worse: at best they're monetarists or libertarians) Republicans.

Krugman quotes James Galbraith and I agree:

There need be no pretense that it will solve our underlying financial and economic problems. It will not. The purpose, in my view, is to get the financial system and the economy through the year, and into the hands of the next administration. That is a limited purpose, but a legitimate purpose. And it may be the most that can be accomplished for the time being.


A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 02:43:06 AM EST
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Cyrille: On top of that, it's clearly Republicans, a minority party with much diminished support in the population, taking the economy hostage in order to get a final loot. This must be said, and screamed, and I hope it is soon all over the news. Yet, at the moment, I don't see it.

Two of the articles I linked to in my previous comment actually make this point pretty emphatically:

David Brooks - Revolt of the Nihilists - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com

House Republicans led the way and will get most of the blame. It has been interesting to watch them on their single-minded mission to destroy the Republican Party. Not long ago, they led an anti-immigration crusade that drove away Hispanic support. Then, too, they listened to the loudest and angriest voices in their party, oblivious to the complicated anxieties that lurk in most American minds.

Now they have once again confused talk radio with reality. If this economy slides, they will go down in history as the Smoot-Hawleys of the 21st century. With this vote, they've taken responsibility for this economy, and they will be held accountable. The short-term blows will fall on John McCain, the long-term stress on the existence of the G.O.P. as we know it.

I've spoken with several House Republicans over the past few days and most admirably believe in free-market principles. What's sad is that they still think it's 1984. They still think the biggest threat comes from socialism and Walter Mondale liberalism. They seem not to have noticed how global capital flows have transformed our political economy.

and

THE WRONG FRAME AT THE WRONG TIME | The Washington Monthly

It's a great slogan for the election season, isn't it? "Vote Republican -- We're More Concerned With Our Feelings Than Your Future."

Make no mistake -- this is a failure of the Republican Party of historic proportions. When push came to shove, the Democratic leadership delivered the votes on the rescue plan, while Republicans voted, 2-to-1, against it.

If they're going to rationalize their failure, they're going to have to do better than rejecting the proposal because of Pelosi's harmless speech.

And these are both from usually right-leaning sources.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 03:23:35 AM EST
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"I've spoken with several House Republicans over the past few days and most admirably believe in free-market principles."

What's admirable about that?
Free-market apparently is one of the two commandments of the State religion, the other being low taxes.

On a side note, I would argue that right-leaning is a major understatement regarding Brooks. I have to keep away from his columns to preserve my sanity.

"It failed because Nacy Pelosi said some unkind things about George Bush in her speech"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 03:54:53 AM EST
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They hold on to their faith in the face of overwhelming evidence against the tenets of their religion. That's admirable.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:44:09 AM EST
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I can see why I'm not religious.

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:54:19 AM EST
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You don't want to be admirable?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:55:27 AM EST
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That was my first reaction: "How embarrassing for USAns: At least five Europeans countries got their shit together in 48 hours to pull off these rescue packages, while USAns took over one vaudevillian week and still blew it in a farce of partisan pettiness."

Inappropriate comparison.

The Fed has rescued several institutions over a weekend or a day (Bear, Fannie/Freddie, AIG) and the FDIC has taken over several banks swiftly (Indymac, WaMu, Wachovia). I don't recall whether they did anything special about Merrill, since BofA's CEO likes to overpay for big purchases anyway. I don't know what Paulson/Bernanke were thinking when they let Lehman fail.

These swift interventions by the bureaucracy parallel the European ones. Paulson's "all your shitpile are belong to me" is in a separate league altogether and Europe hasn't yet tried anything of the sort so we don't know how that would fare.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 02:37:11 AM EST
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Inappropriate comparison. ...

Good points.

I don't know what Paulson/Bernanke were thinking when they let Lehman fail.

Krugman made a similar point the other day:

Just worth pointing out: Henry Paulson's decision to let Lehman fail, on Sept. 14, may have delivered the White House to Obama.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 03:02:25 AM EST
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Look at the volume traded: it's not the failure of Lehman but the bailout plan.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 03:12:09 AM EST
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that governments - or at least some public bodies - on both continents still work - even after years of attempts at undermining and weakening them.

Acting in times of crisis is government's biggest responsibility, and so far, they have fared reasonably well.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:52:30 AM EST
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But remember Jérôme:

"It failed because Nacy Pelosi said some unkind things about George Bush in her speech"
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:56:09 AM EST
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Oh, there's much more than just unkind things about George Bush. Full text from The Guardian
Madam Speaker, when was the last time someone asked you for $700bn?

It is a number that is staggering, but tells us only the costs of the Bush administration's failed economic policies: policies built on budgetary recklessness, on an anything-goes mentality, with no regulation, no supervision, and no discipline in the system.

Democrats believe in the free market, which can and does create jobs, wealth, and capital. But left to its own devices, it has created chaos.

That's heresy to the cherished beliefs which the Republican Representatives admirably hold on to.
The American people did not decide to dangerously weaken our regulatory and oversight policies.
No, it was Congress and the financial (self-)regulators
They did not make unwise and risky financial deals.
Um, buying a house on a NINJA mortgage is not "unwise and risky", it's downright suicidal. So Pelosi is laying the blame solely on the banks and mortgage brokers and that's self-service electioneering. Granted, without securitisation and off-balance sheet SIVs and "conduits" the size of Big Shitpile™ wouldn't have caused a crisis of this magnitude.
They did not jeopardise the economic security of the nation. And they must not pay the cost of this emergency recovery and stabilisation bill.

...

Our message to Wall Street is this: the party is over. The era of golden parachutes for high-flying Wall Street operators is over. No longer will the US taxpayer bail out the recklessness of Wall Street. The taxpayers who bear the risk in this recovery must share in the upside as the economy recovers.

...

Today we will act to avert this crisis, but informed by our experience of the past eight years, with the failed economic leadership that has left us less capable of meeting the challenges of the future.

We choose a different path. In the new year, with a new Congress and a new president, we will break free with a failed past and take America in a new direction to a better future.



A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 05:07:39 AM EST
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Migeru: self-service electioneering.

Good point.  But otherwise, how nice to hear such brazen blasphemy from the high pulpit!

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 08:09:56 AM EST
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But we can't say they have both fared resonably well! There have to be winners and losers in the race between the EU and the US. One of them must be Doomed!

Or some such drivel.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:57:16 AM EST
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Al Jazeera English - Europe - Europe fights to calm markets

Governments across Europe have continued to prop up the battered financial sector, with Dexia, the Belgian-French financial services group, receiving more than $9bn from the Belgian, French and Luxembourg treasuries.

Facing the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, global central banks scrambled again on Tuesday to try to relieve a severe squeeze in money markets by more than doubling the amount of funding to $620 billion.

In Ireland, the government announced a blanket guarantee for savings held by its banks, covering up to $575bn in liabilities.

France, which had joined Belgium and Luxembourg in offering the lifeline to Dexia, which has run up huge losses in its US operations, said it would come to the aid of savers with new bank measures by the end of the week.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:29:36 PM EST
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Commission has 'no reason' to question Fortis deal - EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Despite Benelux governments announcing a partial nationalisation of Fortis Bank on Sunday, the ongoing financial crisis continued to collect scalps through Europe on Monday (29 September), with the UK and Germany intervening to save financial institutions. Meanwhile, the European Central Bank has announced it would lend eurozone banks €120 billion in "a special term refinancing operation."

The European Central Bank announced it would lend eurozone banks €120 billion in "a special term refinancing operation."

The decision by the Belgian, Dutch and Luxembourger governments to purchase half the Belgo-Dutch banking giant for €11.2 billion represents the biggest bailout of a European bank since the beginning of the crisis.

The European Commission said on Monday it had been consulted during the negotiations and had so far no reason to believe the deal was in breach of EU competition rules.

"Up until now the national authorities in Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg have been listening to what the commission has been saying, so we have no reason to think that what they are going to notify the commission of is not going to be acceptable to the commission in terms of state aid rules," Jonathan Todd, a spokesperson for the institution told a press briefing in Brussels.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 03:30:56 PM EST
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Too many commission workers have their bank accounts at Fortis, I would suspect...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Sep 30th, 2008 at 04:34:27 PM EST
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