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by Jerome a Paris
Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 09:41:10 AM EST

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Todays' question is: Can one day of ET OT go by without discussion of US politics?  I know where I'm putting my money.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:03:40 AM EST
Now you're trolling :-)

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:04:56 AM EST
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Nope. I've just been following the last 2 days.  Lot's of US politics, lots of comments.  Think I'll run some kind of X-Y scatter plot on the data and see if a correlation shows itself.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:09:11 AM EST
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ok just to make you happy, i've posted one.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:34:10 AM EST
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Ask again in late november. When all the fun is over and the disappointments haven't yet started piling up. I'm sure we'll manage it then.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 12:50:52 PM EST
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Looking at the Justification of Palin in terms of "She's only 40 miles from Russia, so of course she'd ba a good leader". If you follow this dubious logic then surely you can argue that Obama is a 1697km better politician for dealing with Iran, a similar distance better for dealing with Iraq , Russia, and North Korea. Although McCain is in a better position to deal with Cuba and The South American drug dealers.

Also having the vast number of houses, by the same dubious logic, you'll find that McCain is far more likely to be a qualified child molester on the grounds that one is more likely to be living within a distance of one of his many houses

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:33:12 AM EST
Oh NO, here we go again!

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:52:03 AM EST
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OK, fine.

The logic/reasons employed by the Repubs don't have to make sense to the intelligent rational educated person.  In fact, it's just a poll: How stupid/uninformed or horrendously rich are you?  If you fit in either of these categories, vote McCain/Palin.  Don't be concerned with facts, logic, etc.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:57:00 AM EST
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The republicans don't want to be elected.
  • McCain has attacked Obama, because Obama is ambitious. McCain isn't ambitious, so probably he don't want to be president
  • McCain doesn't speak for the campaign and the campaign doesn't speak for McCain
  • candidate McCain opposes bills constructed by senator McCain

Isn't it ovious, the republicans HAVE to make a campaign for formally having made a campaign. But nobody wants to do it. Somehow McCain is pressured into running a fake campaign. If he isn't briefed in time about the newest talking points, he may contradict himself later, after he knows, what he has to say.

And therefore you shouldn't critisise McCain. Not because he is was a POW, or a war hero like Kerry. As a POW he could keep up his honour, his integrity. But this republicans abuse this old man and pressure him into a campaign, where he loses the very things he values most.
Voting for McCain is a lack of mercy. But you know, there are sadists. McCain does everything he can to sabotage his campaign, but still they want to see him suffer and becoming president.

Lich King/Caribou Barbie 08
Pain brings Katharsis

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:20:23 AM EST
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It's a conclusion increasingly difficult to avoid; they wanna lose.

But then again, of the field they had this time last year, who could they have chosen ? None of the above was the answer then, it's still true.

And it's certainly true in the UK that at some point a party of government becomes tired and incapable of renewal. Largely because all of the positions of sufficient power to make change are stuffed with the people who are actually "the problem". It happened with the tories in the 90s, and it's happening with NuLab now. Seems like the republicans are facing this same crisis. The whole party nationally seems to have become too rotten to regenerate, it needs to be burnt down before re-growth can flourish.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:39:11 AM EST
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Oh FUCK!  I said that some weeks ago, with the Repubs knowing that economic HELL is coming next year and they want to be thoroughly on the sidelines when the shitstorm arrives.

Time to start makin' plans.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:50:18 AM EST
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One alaskan asks What is McCain thinking ?

Before her meteoric rise to political success as governor, just two short years ago Sarah Palin was the mayor of Wasilla.  I had a good chuckle at MSN.com's claim that she had been the mayor of "Wasilla City".  It is not a city.  Just Wasilla.  Wasilla is the heart of the Alaska "Bible belt" and Sarah was raised amongst the tribe that believes creationism should be taught in our public schools, homosexuality is a sin, and life begins at conception.  She's a gun-toting, hang `em high conservative.  Remember...this is where her approval ratings come from.  There is no doubt that McCain again is making a strategic choice to appeal to a particular demographic - fundamentalist right-wing gun-owning Christians.  And Republican bloggers are already gushing about how she has `more executive experience' than Obama does!  Above is a picture of lovely downtown Wasilla, for those of you unfamiliar with the area.  Behind the Mug-Shot Saloon (the first bar I visited when I moved to Alaska long ago) is a little strip mall.  There are street signs in Wasilla with bullet holes in them.  Wasilla has a population of about 5500 people, and 1979 occupied housing units.  This is where your potential Vice President was two short years ago.  Can you imagine her negotiating a nuclear non-proliferation treaty?  Discussing foreign policy?  Understanding non-Alaskan issues?  Frankly, I don't even know if she's ever been out of the country.  She may `get' Alaska, but there are only a half a million people here.  Don't get me wrong....I love Alaska with all my heart.  I'm just saying.

what was he thinking ? More like what was he smoking ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:19:01 AM EST
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And dKos has frontpaged concerns she might be anti-semitic.

Which gave me have a "duh" moment, cos I'll bet that's what Buchanan meant when he said "I swear she's a Buchananite". Like how did he know when she's supposed to be unknown ? And what else could he have meant ? Amongst other things, Buchanan is a well-understood anti-semite (how is such allowed regular airtime on MSNBC for goodness sakes ?). So, if she is too, how's that gonna go down with AIPAC and Holy Joe ? Heck, how's that gonna go down with McCain ?

And if she's just a victim of circumstances, just happened to be in the church at the time, she's isolationist Buchananite etc, how is she gonna really get that over in a country where love of Israel trumps nearly everything ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:28:31 AM EST
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It's not the Israel issue.  It's the contempt for Jews who don't accept Christ that'd be damaging.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:41:39 AM EST
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Yea, I meant that. This would go down like a cup of cold sick with aipac and McCain wouldn't it ? This is surely almost a deal breaker.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:46:57 AM EST
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Biden says they're going to prosecute people who broke the law under Bush.

In addition to her possible anti-Semitism, Palin would oppose abortion even if her daughter were raped.  That puts her at odds with even a majority of Republicans.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:40:28 AM EST
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Now Palin refuses to testify in Troopergate unless the legislature turns the investigation over to three of her appointees on the state review board.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:46:32 AM EST
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Let me guess the phrases "I don't recall" and Executive privilege will start to appear all over this.

IOKIYAR

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:53:32 AM EST
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I hate to sound cynical about biden, who I'm sure is being sincere, but does anybody remember supeaona (sp?) power ?

Nice idea, but doesn't work in practice ? and all those headlines about partizan revenge when they'll need all the good vibes just to fix the major things Bush broke. And no, I don't believe they really intend to fix the legislature or the Constitution

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:51:35 AM EST
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Subpœna.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:52:23 AM EST
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thanks. Tho' how I do that conflated oe I have no idea.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:54:40 AM EST
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It's a ligature, hence œ

Ligatures are, of course, optional - even archaic - and I'm being a snob by using one.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:57:54 AM EST
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The failure of subpoena you refer to was a failure by the Legislature to subpoena members of the executive.

Biden is talking about the new executive prosecuting the old.

The problem there is not subpoena, but presidential pardon (see Clinton).

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:54:37 AM EST
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Doesn't put her at odds with McCain.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:52:19 AM EST
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If this comes to pass  


Biden says they're going to prosecute people who broke the law under Bush.

There is a GOD, and THANK YOU LORD! I NOW BELIEVE!

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:54:35 AM EST
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thank the lord when old sparky boils cheney, not before. Tho' my guess is that all that electrickery  will make him more powerful than we could ever believe.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:58:02 AM EST
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I was at the preview of a new 3D cinema last week - the first in Finland. It uses an active polarized glasses system. You can see me far right looking extremely bored - as I was.

Firstly the movie, 'Journey to the Centre of the Earth' was crap. Secondly, the glasses were uncomfortable, and finally, though the 3D effect certainly works, it was tedious after 10 minutes.

We were treated to some speeches announcing a new technological marvel to rival the earlier introduction of sound, and then, later, colour. Personally I'd have welcomed the introduction of intelligence.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:57:58 AM EST
First of all, what is this WIDOW Twanky stuff?  :)

Second, are you the dude with the white beard?

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:02:17 AM EST
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I suggest you google - but the Widow Twanky (or Twankey) is an archetypal and revered figure in the English pantomime version of Aladdin. She is always played by a man, is coarse and raucous, and is well versed in 'life', as opposed to the boy Aladdin (always played by a girl) who is an innocent ;-)

Make what you will of the English fascination for crisscross-dressing.

Yep, I'm that dude.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:13:25 AM EST
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I'll take your word for it, but the thought that there are other Twanks in this universe gives me pause.

I do like the "revered figure ... coarse and raucous ... is well versed in 'life'" parts.

Oh, and the Cheney underground police will be visiting you shortly.  Hope you enjoy sunny Cuba.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:24:24 AM EST
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Have an example, (although I havent watched it myself)



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 05:12:32 PM EST
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Make what you will of the English fascination for crisscross-dressing.

There's nothing wrong with it, it just doesn't work as well as some of us might have hoped :-)).

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:31:38 AM EST
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LOL

Apparently the entire audience shared your critical view.  The lady third to your right looks like she would rather be having a root canal.  The gentleman in the right foreground of the picture is carefully analyzing the technology ... so he doesn't have to think about the plot and acting.  And the woman in black, to his right, has fallen asleep.

Either that or everybody is doing the standard Scandinavian, "I paid good money to see this.  I am going to ENJOY it."

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:13:53 AM EST
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Aaah - the captive versus non-captive audience. One of my most basic theories of communication. This bunch of critics and liggers at the non-public preview are, of course, non-captive in the sense that they have not paid to see the movie, but captive in the symbiotic relationship between their readers, their employers and the distributors.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:22:06 AM EST
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According to Imdb the film was taken from Paul Chart, the originator of the project, and handed over to the special effects supervisor "Eric Brevig and the script was heavily retooled to emphasize the new 3-D format."  No wonder the film was boring.  It was supposed to be boring.  

Every decade Hollywood trots out a new & improved 3D format, the audience boos, and the format slinks back into its cave.  Look on the bright side.  You're saved until the twenty-tens.

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:36:10 AM EST
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There is a very good use for 3D that I saw demonstrated many years ago - I presume it is widespread now - for viewing computer models. The application I saw was for molecular biology. It made a lot of sense to be able to rotate the model in RT and have all the depth cues. It used the same active polaroid technology.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 12:00:29 PM EST
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Were there issues with flicker/polarization or CRT/LCD computer displays?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 12:17:23 PM EST
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The one I saw which was Sun Systems had a very clear monitor and the glasses were very light, except as I recall there was a thin cable connected to the computer - at least you wouldn't lose them ;-)

I found it very natural - especially compared using the Xpand glasses.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 12:50:16 PM EST
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When I visited the NAM, the Dutch oil and gas company, in 2000(?) they were already working with it for strucutural block models and 3D seismics, among others to delineate horizontal drilling projects. I'm sure all the major oil companies have 3D rooms in use. ITC in Enschede is developing 3D video and computer models as well, specifically for the visualisation of geographical information.
by Nomad on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 01:30:29 PM EST
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As this is partly my field, let me toss in two centimes.

There are 3 3D systems available now; RealD, XpanD, and Dolby. Sony showed their version to a select audience at CineExpo last June, so they will be the 4th at some unannounced date.

Since it was active glasses, you must have seen the XpanD system. I haven't seen an excellent demo of theirs, only small expo rooms, so I can't comment.

I have seen the Dolby and the RealD system, which was the first one to hit the ground running a few years ago, Interview with Josh Greer, Real D
 
.

When I saw my first clip of Chicken Little with the RealD system long before it was released, I thought that my eyes were going to bleed from little needles being stuck in them. I saw their reel recently, and it was surprising how much better it was. Saw some post work being done with it, and I must say that the entire technology is quite cool and capable. Saw a bunch of the U2 concert on it, with a great sound system and I can imagine that the day will come soon when people won't want to see a concert film any other way...or vice versa, that people will go to cinemas to see concerts.  

One advantage of DCinema is that niche products can be made and distributed, and niche markets can be hit because the distribution costs are lower, so concert films in a cinema with a great sound system can become marketable for example...or video games being played against cross town or cross planet rivals from a cinema.

In fact, the day will come soon when live 3D DCinema events can all be done for a marketable price (theNBA did a basketball game to good reviews last year) and people will flock to theaters for the event (not talking about 3 week long runs.) They already are flocking to cinemas to see live opera, broadcast from NY and SF and other places, in 2D. 3D will make it even more attractive when all the parts are nailed together and you bring your own fitted and/or prescription 3D glasses.

All current systems have a problem getting enough light to the eyeballs because of the way that each technology presently works. RealD handles this with a silver screen. Their glasses are kept cheap because they are to keep or be throw-aways. Dolby and XpanD are more expensive and washable. Dolby even has lenses that are hemispheric so that the distance of the light coming to the eyeball from the lens is the same as the eye moves. Somewhat more comfortable and they aren't as bulky cumbersome. (There is an inherent bulkiness to all the glasses because they have to keep all reflected and off-axis light out of the eyes to keep up the effect. So all the glasses have wide plastic parts.)

3D is still hard to do, and the production teams are still learning what can be done and what can be done well and what shouldn't be done. Animations were the first, and they have turned the corner. Several studios are now committed to making everything in 3D, with 2D as the down-convert.

There are some big producer non-animation productions being done in 3D now (Cameron getting the most press because he is also using the RED camera - this article has some good pull quotes James Cameron supercharges 3-D
.) As the real pros get the technique down, it is likely that the movies won't give the same specious feeling - that the 3D will be part of the way we see things, not a technique to scare the bejezuz out of one with a snake being thrown in your face.

Journey got a lot of flack for appearing to just be pandering to the 3D coolness bandwagon. Unfortunately, there just aren't enough 3D sites...there aren't really enough DCinema sites...so they couldn't even pull off that stunt. I saw a part of it a year ago. In the scheme of things, one knows that this kind of picture had to be made, as schmalzy as it was. So fine, it is behind us now.

All in all, this is not likely to be a technology that goes away. It works, though it is still being refined. It is nothing like the old systems by any stretch. And while the old systems would get one producer backing it and then it disappeared, all the studios are behind this one. There is a consumer technology following in a few years. There are even systems that are showing a nascent technology of converting some classic 2D into 3D. I saw a minute or two of the original Star Wars that was done at a jillion dollars a second, and it was not cool at all. It was just perfect. At that point I realized that there is a chance that this is how movies will just be. </sorry for hype motions>

It is also an add-on to digital cinema technology in general, which is slowly advancing toward a general roll-out. 3D costs a lot of money. In the neighborhood of 15-20k more, on top of the 100k dcinema system. This is a technology where, besides getting rid of a chemical/plastic/environmental nasty, the studios save more than a billion dollars a year, until uhm...carry the 5, divide by...oh, yeah, forever.  

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 02:32:21 PM EST
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I have an image of people just shutting themselves away in a headset and never emerging as a social being again.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 02:49:35 PM EST
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One of the strong sales points of the cinema experience is that it is a social experience, undupliacatable by other technologies.

This is brought up all the more because television now have such excellent quality, and television broadcast or use of BlueRay discs for example, is capable of excellent quality. People often mention how they can take a break when they want, don't have to pay the babysitter or listen to cell phones and smell rancid popcorn, etc.

I enjoy both, and they are both cocooning. One doesn't mix with their neighbors, for example. Even in the open air cinema of Monaco, you might talk to your friends before the show starts, but you don't see people talking to people around them socially (except to say - Can you smoke somewhere else please?) But I do like to see big movies in a big screen atmosphere, and I do buy sweets there when I don't allow them for myself anywhere else. Funny, eh?

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 02:59:53 PM EST
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One of the points of the cinema theater for me is not being able to take a break...

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 05:21:03 AM EST
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That's been a theme of many virtual reality movies for decades.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 03:07:42 PM EST
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How are polarised 3D glasses new ? I think I saw a 3D movie with such glasses15 years ago...

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:38:32 AM EST
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New to Finland, based on digital projection in a dedicated commercial theatre.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:42:00 AM EST
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IMAX has arrived?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:46:55 AM EST
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Still under negotiation. The IMAX people have been here, looked at sites, and gone away again.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:54:19 AM EST
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So this is yet another 3D film technology, or just another brand for the same product that IMAX sells?

IMAX films suck, by and large.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 12:12:46 PM EST
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This one is 'Xpand - beyond cinema' he he. 'Today's technology tomorrow' and so on.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 12:46:46 PM EST
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IMAX 3D is superb - totally immersive.

Two random data points on 3D:

  1. You can buy monitors with cross-polarised 3D technology (and glasses) for around double the price of a conventional monitor. I'm waiting to review on as soon as Zalman, who make it, release drivers for 3D Studio Max and make it useful for more than games and (as they put it) 'adult content.'

  2. There are various no-glasses 3D systems in development - some interesting demos at a recent consumer electronics show. It's not consumer-level technology yet, but it will be soon.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 12:17:03 PM EST
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Any video technology only really breaks through into the public domain when people work out how to put "adult content" onto it

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 05:26:33 PM EST
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There was a small movie theatre in NY, equipped for the old 3D movies, that advertised, from time to time a 3D porn movie (I'm not sure if there was ever more than one). So the problem has already been solved...
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 05:36:40 PM EST
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you're sitting next to?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 03:14:36 PM EST
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That is one of those Finnish film critics that get blurbed ie "SHOCKING ENTERTAINMENT!!" Harry Razzle - Movie Fanatic Monthly, found on the covers of DVDs in the darker shelves of your local video rental.

We usually go and have a coffee together after a screening (making me Trotsky?) and talk about the movie. This time we were not inspired.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:49:05 PM EST
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better watch out for the critic with the icepick then. ;-)

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 05:27:32 PM EST
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I've not booked my Mexico tickets yet....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 05:29:36 PM EST
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From an RGE newsletter:

  • Conflict in Georgia, deployment of missile defense shield may contribute to further acceleration in defense spending globally - especially in Eastern Europe.
  • SIPRI: global military spending rose to $1.33T in 2007, a real-terms increase of 6% over  2006 and of 45% since 1998. The U.S. accounts for 45% of the global total with the UK China, France and Japan each accounting for 4-5%.
  • The subregion with the highest increase in military expenditure from 1998-2007 was Eastern Europe, at 162%. Russia, with a 13% increase in 2007, accounted for 86% of this regional increase. Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia also sharply raised their military spending due to the region's three "frozen conflicts"


Lich King/Caribou Barbie 08
Pain brings Katharsis
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 01:52:39 PM EST
Don't need to say a thing.



McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 03:14:30 PM EST
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With general elections scheduled for next year, it's even possible that the Communists may be able to return to power a mere 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Such a development would undermine nothing less than Germany's standing as a market economy and Western ally.

(...)

Considering the Left's success in driving Germany's economic debate from the opposition bench, it's not hard to imagine the damage the party could inflict once in national government. Its reach would go beyond just economic policy and affect foreign affairs as well.

That's a worrying prospect as Germany is already one of the weaker links in the Western alliance.

(no surprise...)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 03:17:02 PM EST
Dear oh dear. You'd think they'd at least have some shame

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 03:27:33 PM EST
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Which "they"?

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:06:03 PM EST
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That's a worrying prospect as Germany is already one of the weaker links in the Western alliance.

Germany has the 4th largest losses in Afghanistan, after US, UK, Canada, but more than Spain, Poland, Rumania, Czech, Netherlands, France or Italy.

Members of our parliament, who didn't want to be named in public, told serious journalists, we are in Afghanistan, because, and only because our most beloved ally, who didn't care about our opinion of the war in Iraq, doesn't care about our opinion about torture, and who has kidnapped two inhabitants of our country, tortured them and released them without ever giving a convincing cause for the kidnapping, wants it. Still 200,000 people in Berlin were willing to applaud the most likely next president of this ally.

What do we have to do to count as a strong link in the Western alliance? Letting people jump from towers like the Russian zar, on behalf of imperator George II? Sending our people as slaves over the atlantic?

However, may I should take it simply as compliment, that we are "one of the weaker links".

Lich King/Caribou Barbie 08
Pain brings Katharsis

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:35:49 PM EST
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Man, Jack Cafferty of CNN is fucking PISSED!  The Reps. have pissed off the WRONG person!

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:14:41 PM EST
Cafferty is great.  He reminds me so much of my grandfather.  No bullshit.  Even when I disagree, I love the man.

Mike Murphy is on MSNBC listing more qualified GOP veeps.  Peggy Noonan says "It's over" for McCain.

The Republicans are coming apart at the seams.

New state polls: Obama up 2 in Ohio, 12 in Minnesota (Hello, GOPers!), 15 in Iowa.

Their TIME polls, so tons of salt required, but man....

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:24:43 PM EST
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Talk about flame throwers.  Cafferty and Olbermann ... what a team.  Wonder what got Cafferty going.  He is literally oozing resentment.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:29:22 PM EST
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Overheard on a live mic at MSNBC.  Chuck Todd, Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy:

Todd: "Is this really the most qualified woman they could find?"

Noonan: "They decided to go with this political bullshit..."

Murphy: "This is how you win a race in Texas, you run it up. It won't work."

Noonan:  "IT'S OVER."

Link and video can be found here.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:31:27 PM EST
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A Palin Digest

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:35:27 PM EST
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Great one!

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:38:06 PM EST
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Dept of Human Shields

As much as some people may consider a Palin withdrawal inevitable, the McCainiacs are probably all too aware that throwing her under the bus would only intensify the criticism for having picked her in the first place.  And for someone running on a vote-for-strong-daddy platform like McCain is to admit a mistake this big would be tantamount to conceding the election.

The only circumstance that could force such a desperation move would be if a stream of continuing revelations -- as the media performs the vetting the McCain camp cut corners on -- keeps chatter about Palin's flaws alive, drowning out all serious consideration of McCain's candidacy to the point where getting a new veep is the only way to change the subject.

To prevent that, two things need to happen: First, Palin has to stonewall the investigation into her abuse of power as governor of Alaska, so its findings don't come out before November, and second, the press has to be intimidated into silence.  (It's notable that Joe Klein says, "Those of us who have criticized the candidate-and especially those of us who enjoyed good relations with McCain in the past-have been subject to off-the-record browbeating and attempted bullying all year"; this is all about getting the sheep back in the fold.)

And so, to distract attention from the first objective and to help accomplish the second one, tonight at the Republican convention we'll be treated to the spectacle of an entire political party trying to hide behind a pregnant 17-year-old girl.


An Empty Convention Center, Again?

I got into the Pepsi Center once in Denver, and had to sit behind the stage in the worst seats in the house because I arrived late, that is, two hours before the program started.  Every other time I tried to get in, with really good credentials, I was turned away because the fire marshal shut it down due to overcapacity.  The pictures I put up yesterday of an almost entirely empty Xcel Center were taken at around 5:30pm, an hour before the program started.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:41:39 PM EST
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Put on the headphones, folks.  It's worth it!

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:36:20 PM EST
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In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 04:47:57 PM EST
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Ho ho ho ho ho !! It's Christmas.

the only thing that gives me pause is watching interviews with alaskans on the tv today, and they seem to think what she is seems perfectly normal. And I wonder how true that is of the whole of the country.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 05:06:04 PM EST
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National Review is reporting Sarah Palin had an affair with one of Todd Palin'd business associates, and that they tried to cover it up.

Family Values!

If this is true, we should probably tell Michelle Obama to start picking out curtains.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 05:59:40 PM EST
but - hah

the awesomeness is grandilicious - or something.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:02:13 PM EST
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Oh, pretty, pretty please.  Pretty, pretty please, tear one more moralizing little shit down.

This would be beautiful.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:09:10 PM EST
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True awesomeness wouldn't occur unless the business partner also happened to be the one running the failed car wash.

Interesting timing on the story. I was just thinking it's been almost an entire 24 hours since the last scandal.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:13:55 PM EST
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I'm really starting to wonder if someone in the GOP wants to take Palin and McCain down.

I'd suggest Mittens, but he isn't that bright.

Are we watching the beginnings of a coup?

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:16:43 PM EST
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Cui bono?

Or perhaps someone - unusually for the Rs - is being a spiteful and vindictive little shit for the sake of it.

This is one of those 'We'll never know' situations.

But we do know the entire press corps is coming Alaska looking for red meat stories, so I'm not sure malice is even necessary.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:20:39 PM EST
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Remember the Rs are the ones who sabotaged the Miers nomination to the Supreme Court.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:23:31 PM EST
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None of them benefit right now, because they're stabbing McCain to death if they're pushing this.  If he completely implodes, the Dems might well get those extra five or six seats in the Senate, which basically means they're free to do whatever the hell they choose and can tell the Reps to go fuck themselves.

But someone could be pushing it to kill McCain's campaign in hopes of a 2012 run, positioning himself/herself as The Savior of the Party.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:25:56 PM EST
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P.S. Actually Byron York has quoted the story in the National Review, in a 'Probably nothing to it but what the hell' kind of a way.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:15:27 PM EST
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True, but the McCain camp sure reacted to it fast.  Methinks they may be scared.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:18:41 PM EST
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...adding:

If the NE says you've done something, and you threaten legal action against them, you'd better be damned sure you're right, because, if they think they've got it, they'll laugh the lawsuit away and come at you even harder.

And actually going ahead and suing them is one of the dumbest things someone can do.  As one of the Kossacks put it, suing the NE is like fighting a land war in Asia.

They hit back at this quick, because they know the public will believe it at this point.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:32:55 PM EST
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So the Edwards story could turn out to benefit the Dems.

LOL

by MarekNYC on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:49:39 PM EST
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The Enquirer fires back.  Pwnage ensues:

ENQUIRER RESPONDS TO MCCAIN/PALIN
Wed Sep 03 2008 18:19:21 ET

"The National Enquirer's coverage of a vicious war within Sarah Palin's extended family includes several newsworthy revelations, including the resulting incredible charge of an affair plus details of family strife when the Governor's daughter revealed her pregnancy. Following our John Edwards' exclusives, our political reporting has obviously proven to be more detail-oriented than the McCain campaign's vetting process. Despite the McCain camp's attempts to control press coverage they find unfavorable, The Enquirer will continue to pursue news on both sides of the political spectrum."



Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:56:29 PM EST
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I'd like to point out: The McCain campaign has now gotten into fights with (in order) the NYT, CNN and now the National Enquirer.

By Friday they'll be debating DC Comics.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 07:03:04 PM EST
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When the photos of McCain as a furry at a comics con show up?
by MarekNYC on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 07:12:03 PM EST
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by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 07:17:17 PM EST
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I didn't know rabbits could speak.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 07:37:27 PM EST
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Perfect. Now perhaps one with Palin?
by MarekNYC on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 07:58:13 PM EST
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the awesomeness is grandilicious - or something.

Dude, you are, like, so totally getting all Americanized and all, you know?  It's like, awesome!

by Zwackus on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 11:50:26 PM EST
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Should we ask for paternity tests for all her kids, or does that just apply to Edwards?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 03:04:41 AM EST
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CBS News

 John McCain's campaign threatened legal action against the National
Enquirer today for running a story about McCain's running mate, Sarah
Palin, allegedly having an affair with her husband's business
partner.

"The smearing of the Palin family must end. The allegations contained
on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Gov. Palin had
an extramarital affair are categorically false. It is a vicious lie,"
said McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:01:11 PM EST
The allegations contained
on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Gov. Palin had
an extramarital affair are categorically false. It is a vicious lie,"
said McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt.

Sure it is, Senator Edwards.

Not so fun when the Enquirer's going after their side, eh?

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 06:10:17 PM EST
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o'reilly is creaming cos obama has made time to go on his show tomorrow night, he's been begging for it for a while.
he looked so happy to get validated, he was quite petulant before that 'the senator' turned him down.he also said he knows he's being used as a pawn by obama to take wind out of mcpalin's sails after the convention speech, heh.

obame will dance rings around his clumsy gotchas, i reckon it should be a fun face off.


Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 08:52:43 PM EST
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Oh shit, does this mean I have to watch o'really this once?  The bastard makes me literally sick to my stomach within 30 sec.

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!
by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 09:54:55 PM EST
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Caribou Barbie (h/t to Wonkette) is the gift that keeps on giving.

Oh please sue the National Enquirer.  

Pretty please?  With sugar and dumplings?

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 09:04:54 PM EST
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Caribou Barbie!  That's brilliant.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:01:30 PM EST
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The Albuquerque Journal has reported the GOP is so strapped for cash they are yanking all television ads for the GOP Senate Candidate.


Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!
by ATinNM on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 09:17:01 PM EST
" ... GOP strapped for cash ..."

What's wrong with this phrase?

McCain/Palin ... total sacks of SHIT!

by THE Twank (paszeski__aaaaaaatttttt__yahoo.com) on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 09:56:16 PM EST
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In the most recent polls Peirce is making a dramatic run.

Now he is only 15 points behind Udall.

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 at 10:34:05 PM EST
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Only 15.  This is apparently something to celebrate for them.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 08:08:15 AM EST
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