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by afew
Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:21:14 AM EST

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I predict that spring will come!


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I know the cynics round here will scoff as usual, but I can tell the difference between my lousy CD player on its own and my lousy CD player standing on an orange crate, and that gives me sublime mojo.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:23:55 AM EST
ah but the true audipohile would tell you that it depends what sort of oranges were stored in the crate.

Give a politician an inch, and he'll think he's a ruler
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:26:32 AM EST
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I didn't say I was a geek.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:56:49 AM EST
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Some things are conveyed without words ;)

Give a politician an inch, and he'll think he's a ruler
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:59:57 AM EST
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Beyoncé's new single spells economic doom | Music | guardian.co.uk

Beyoncé's worldwide hit, Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It), is not just catchy - it may spell doom for international finance.

According to findings by Phil Maymin, professor of finance and risk engineering at New York University, the more regular the beat on Billboard's top singles, the more volatile the American markets. After studying decades of Billboard's Hot 100 hits, Maymin found that songs with low "beat variance" had an inverse correlation with market turbulence. Which is to say, the more regular the song, the crazier the stock market.

And Single Ladies is very regular.

...

Some of history's steadiest hits - such as A-Ha's Take On Me - were released at times of market crash. Whereas complex songs, "with all these beat changes and stuff", seem to catch on when the markets are sedate.

"The correlation is pretty strong," Maymin argued. Weirder still, the beat variance of songs seems to predict the markets - not the other way around. According to his research, the market becomes unstable only after the charts are full of steady tunes - almost as if certain hits can cause market shake-ups.

"The turbulence of the music predicts the steadiness of the market," Maymin explained. And Beyoncé's chart dominance? Well, it may not mean good things for your pension.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:38:32 AM EST
No correlation with hem lines?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:42:48 AM EST
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Only for women...

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 01:59:24 PM EST
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What about Scotsmen?

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 02:30:49 PM EST
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The hemlines of Scotsmen are only correlated with the amount of duty charged on whisky.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 02:33:55 PM EST
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is anything worn under the kilt?

No its all in perfect working order.

Give a politician an inch, and he'll think he's a ruler

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 02:42:30 PM EST
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Hmmmm, One of the more rythmicaly complex bands I know had to suspend all musical releases and touring when their lead singer had a hart attack in september/october. could this be added evidence?

Give a politician an inch, and he'll think he's a ruler
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:50:40 AM EST
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I'm inclined to blame Guns N' Roses.  A friend of mine pointed this out:

First record: 1987.  Biggest one-day crash ever.  S&L Scandal.  Second and Third records: '91.  Recession.  First single with new band released: End of '99.  NASDAQ peaks at 5k shortly thereafter, and then drops about 4k of that.

2008: Chinese Democracy.  Worst crash and recession since the Great Depression.

Where's my Nobel Prize?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 12:05:05 PM EST
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Ah, the Axl of Evil

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 12:18:27 PM EST
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Or perhaps people, whether they're aware of it or not, are simply attracted to steady songs in times of turmoil?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 11:54:02 AM EST
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Either way: We.Are.Doom.

So.Doomed.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 12:11:59 PM EST
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Heh.

Or maybe you can tell the economy is sucking because a song lamenting men who aren't giving women jewelry is a hit single.

Or maybe you can tell the economy is sucking because instead of facing our reality, we're listening to Beyonce.

Or maybe you can tell the economy is sucking because we have so little faith in economists to foresee the economic future, we're turning to pop stars for enlightenment on the subject.

...

There have been a rash of rabid bats flying into local apartments and infecting pets.  I'm sure it is a sign the economy has not hit rock bottom yet.  I mean, just look around you.  It's pretty obvious there is a connection.  Hello.  ...

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 12:48:22 PM EST
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Is this an article about this year's Ig Nobel price in economics?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 12:59:08 PM EST
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Mother Jones - Dvid Cay Johnston - Fiscal Therapy

for years now, whenever I've been invited to lecture students on how our tax system works, I have asked a simple question: What is the purpose of the United States of America? The most common answer, be it at prestigious universities, elite prep schools, rural community colleges, or crowded urban high schools, is this: To make people rich.
This should come as no great surprise. For anyone born after, say, 1970, the world has been shaped by Ronald Reagan's remaking of government's relationship with private interests - a vision of lower taxes, less regulation, and maximum economic leeway for those at the top. In this view, the pursuit of wealth is the warp and weft of America; everything else will follow.

By contrast, the preamble to the Constitution tells us the nation's reason for being in 52 words that can be reduced to six principles: society, justice, peace, security, commonwealth, and freedom. Individual riches don't make the list. They are a product of American society, not its guiding purpose. Progress, then, must begin with a return to the best of the values that created this Second American Republic - one born, it's worth remembering, from the failure of the Articles of Confederation, whose principles (weak government, unfettered capitalism) found their resurrection in the economic policies of the past three decades.

h/t : the sideshow

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 12:49:19 PM EST
Undercover Asset Debrief | Times | 11 Jan 2009

It is just one of many money-spinning engagements that are expected to take his earnings to £15m by July, two years since his departure from Downing Street.

Blair is now facing serious questions over his commitment as a Middle East envoy to the quartet of the United Nations, United States, Europe and Russia. ...

Dumisani Kumalo, South Africa's ambassador to the UN, said that Blair was asked last October to address the council on his progress, but has not yet done so, nor has he set foot in Gaza. ... "We wanted to know what Blair was doing in Gaza . . . we need to know what the quartet envoy is doing. He has never been to Gaza. It is now three months [since Blair was asked]."

Last week Gordon Brown let slip that his long-term rival was still on holiday - prompting Blair to embark on a flurry of broadcast interviews. ...

While performing his duties in the Middle East, Blair holds court at the American Colony hotel in east Jerusalem. He hires an entire floor of the hotel at a cost to the public purse of about £700,000 a year. ...

According to details of his schedule obtained by The Sunday Times, Blair's upcoming commitments include the climate conference in Abu Dhabi on January 21, a university talk near Boston on February 2 and a trip to a California theatre where tickets cost up to $380 each.

Blair ranks as the most expensive speaker in the world. His agents at the Washington Speakers Bureau typically charge $250,000 (£164,000) for a 90-minute speech.

He is also paid about £2m a year by JP Morgan Chase and a further £500,000 a year by Zurich Financial Services. The deal for his memoirs is worth a reported £4.6m.  



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by MarketTrustee on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 01:05:49 PM EST
Blair holds court at the American Colony hotel

You can't make this up...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 01:18:38 PM EST
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Blair holds court at the American Colony hotel

I thought he'd left Parliament

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 02:03:04 PM EST
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Me haces bien - Jorge DrexlerYou do me good - Jorge Drexler
Para contarte, canto.To tell you, I sing.
Quiero que sepasI want you to know
cuánto me haces bien.how much you do me good.
Me haces bien.You do me good.
Me haces bien.You do me good.
Te quiero de mil modos,I love you in a thousand ways,
te quiero sobre todo.I love you above all.
Me haces bien.You do me good.
Me haces bien.You do me good.
Me haces bien.You do me good.
Basta ver el reflejo de tus ojos en los míos,It's enough to see the reflection of your eyes on mine,
como se lleva el frío,how it takes away the cold,
para entenderto understand
que el corazón no miente,that the heart does not lie,
que, afortunadamente,that, fortunately,
me haces bien.you do me good.
Me haces bien.You do me good.
Me haces bien.You do me good.


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 01:28:30 PM EST
TBG and I will be stopping in Paris on Friday evening. We'll be going to LEP's house for the night since that gives us something of a head start for the following day as we'll be driving South, but we're planning on having dinner with some ETers if it can be arranged, possibly in the vicinity of Jerome's house (that's in the 16th arr.).

Who should we expect? What time should we have dinner given that it's a workday? Any suggestions on the venue?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 01:35:46 PM EST
Have a great time, I'm jealous

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 02:01:55 PM EST
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After the Geithner endorsement, I swore I'd never go back. Well, I confess. I missed the comments.

I wonder if Madoff is employing the Scheherazade defense: each night telling a exotic story about where another 10 million dollars may be hidden, awaiting the Feds to retrieve it and return it to its rightful owners. As long as his captors are interested in the stories he tells, he avoids prison.
trader walt | 01.12.09 - 1:17 pm | #


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by MarketTrustee on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 02:35:49 PM EST


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 03:43:51 PM EST
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CR :P Home of the empiricist and the ethicist.
I miss Tanta.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by MarketTrustee on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 04:31:17 PM EST
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They look right to me, and I think I know what broke them. Is it fixed for other people??
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 04:21:12 PM EST
Fixed for me.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 04:23:04 PM EST
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Seems okay to me too. well done on fixing it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 04:30:11 PM EST
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Aaarright!
Looks good to me.
Congratulations, and thank you.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 11:38:01 AM EST
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Thank you!  Much appreciated...
by Solveig (link2ageataol.com) on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 12:47:48 PM EST
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Overheard on facebook:

[State Rep.] is yay. recess!

[State Rep.'s friend] quick! grab the swings before the Republicans do!



Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Mon Jan 12th, 2009 at 04:54:50 PM EST
So one of your facebook friends is an Illinois State Representative?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 02:46:55 AM EST
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Yeah - he's my rep.  I actually knew his predecessor well, because I used to live around the corner from their office.  We did our laundry at the same place.   He died.  His replacement is pretty cool.  He's been liveblogging the impeachment.  He's supposed to come to an inauguration party my friend is throwing.  Hope he does.

FWIW, State Rep is really the lowest rung on the ladder in the world of Chicago Politics.  It's considered entry level stuff, right above, oh, student council.  Which might explain why our state appears to be run by a bunch of clowns.  

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 at 10:37:06 AM EST
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