Christmas Eve Open Thread

by Fran
Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 08:45:55 AM EST

Merry Christmas, Fröhliche Weihnachten, Feliz Navidad, Joyeux Noël, Buon Natale and... ?!!!


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I wish you all a Merry Christmas! While preparing the OT, I was wondering about how one says Merry Christmas in all the other languages I did not mention. So, how do you say Merry Christmas were you live or in your native tongue?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 08:46:54 AM EST
"Guate Boinichtn" in Cimbro, a nearly-extinct ancient version of German spoken in some mountain villages near Trento.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 08:56:37 AM EST
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Ha, that's the first time I heard of this language.

Seems to habe an interesting history and background:

Cimbrian language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cimbrian (German: Zimbrisch or Tzimbrisch) refers to any of several local Upper German dialects spoken in northeastern Italy. The speakers of the language are known as Zimbern.

Do you speak it?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:00:59 AM EST
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No. The nearest I've come is hearing two people (who must be the only Jews in the world who speak it...) speaking it at a Seder last year. It was clearly a version of German; it vaguely reminded me of Swiss, but clearly wasn't, as I could understand almost nothing.

There's also Mocheno, a slightly archaic version of Bavarian, that has more speakers, and Ladin, a completely different language spoken a bit further north. It's supposed to be related to Rhaeto-Romansh, but I've never been able to figure out if that just refers to the origin, or whether they are really mutually comprehensible,

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:13:35 AM EST
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And to you, Fran.  Merry Christmas!

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:17:12 AM EST
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Thank you Drew. Hope you have a nice one too.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:52:32 AM EST
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Happy Christmas to you as well Fran. your hard work on ET is always appreciated, even if we don't actually thank you often enough.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:46:21 AM EST
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thank you Helen, currently it is not quite as hard anymore?

Hope you have an enjoyable Holiday.

Do you still have snow? Here all has vanished.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:50:45 AM EST
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It's melting during the day, but the nights are too cold, so it's not gone yet. Saturday apprently.

Scotland is being buried in snow at the moment tho'.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:35:05 AM EST
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Doesn't reduce my love for Scotland!  Maybe there'll be another conference somewhere in the highlands next year.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 12:12:18 PM EST
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Boldog Karácsonyt!

And to you, Schöni Wiehnacht und es guets Neus!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:13:53 AM EST
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Dank scheen, glich falls! :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:51:34 PM EST
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Vrolijk kerstfeest! Prettige kerstdagen!
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 11:53:10 AM EST
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Nadolig Llawen In Welsh to all

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 12:16:38 PM EST
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Bon Nadal in Occitan (and in Catalan).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:15:15 PM EST
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Have you heard the vocal group "Lo Cor de la Plana" who sing exclusively in Occitan ? Really briliiant live, but their album is sadly unrepresentative.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:28:46 PM EST
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No. Though I have tales of funny struggles with Occitan independentists at Montségur. Long ago.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:10:49 PM EST
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Well check 'em out if you get the chance. they are really very good live.

Saw them at WOMAD last year and it was one of those really great things where you could see word of mouth making a vibe. They played 3 times, the first time for about 100 of the more curious who were blown away and spread the word, the second time for a very packed 500 and so they they were moved to one of the big stages for their final performance. In my mind they stole the show that year.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:20:19 PM EST
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OK, will do.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 25th, 2009 at 05:15:45 AM EST
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Joyeux Noël everyone!
Enjoy time with your loved ones.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:27:40 PM EST
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Happy Christmas, hinny!
by Sassafras on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 03:52:04 PM EST
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northumbrian ??

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:06:05 PM EST
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Next county down.  Tyne and Wear.  :)
by Sassafras on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:27:51 PM EST
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メリークリスマス!

In katakana.  Translated into roman characters, that would come out as something like "Merii Kurisumasu."

Japan acknowledges Christmas, largely (I suspect) due to Disneyland (in fact, one of the most vital and sacred cultural centers in the country) Christmas Pageants that have built awareness of the foreign holiday year after year since the 1960's.

However, here it's largely an excuse for occasional christmas decorations, sales of fried chicken (Kentucky Fried Chicken is another Christmas promoter), sales of "Christmas Cakes" (no idea where they got that idea), young and female retail empolyees being forced to wear cute Santa costumes, and romantic dates.  Christmas is mostly celebrated as a romantic holiday for couples.  New Years serves in the  "traditional family gathering holiday" role here.

by Zwackus on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 08:02:19 PM EST
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Which new year ? Solar calendar or Lunar ?

It seems in VietNam christmas is similar. With less US-culture commercialisation as large US brands are still quite rare.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:10:24 PM EST
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Gregorian solar calendar, so December 31/January 1st.
by Zwackus on Sat Dec 26th, 2009 at 01:39:28 AM EST
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Some say that the word 'hyvä' = good, is a corruption of 'kiva' = nice, by Russians in Finland at the beginning of the 20th century. With their holiday villas in Hanko, their hunting lodges, estates, private harbours and expensive tastes, Finland was indeed 'kiva' to the Tsarists.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 08:55:49 AM EST
Fascinating how these how languages are sometimes interconected.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:01:57 AM EST
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I'm not sure what they call language genetics, but it is the same process.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:29:11 AM EST
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And you can date language mutations quite accurately, since they evolve under certain 'rules'. One very exciting discovery soon to happen will be a an exact matching of the patterns of language mutation with the patterns of genetic mutation in describing the history of human migration.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:34:07 AM EST
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For those in a more playful mood there is the following link:

Official NORAD Santa Tracker

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:04:03 AM EST
Santa is carpet bombing!  The Pentagon and Jack Bower got to Santa!

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:09:48 AM EST
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Who is Jack Bower?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:12:15 AM EST
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In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:15:43 AM EST
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Is this the one who has been robbing banks to pay his elves?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:14:41 AM EST
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LOL, I didn't know that he escaped with help of his rendeers? :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:16:49 AM EST
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I just checked the site. It says he is now in North Korea. Will he make it out safely? If he does get out, will they arrest him when he gets to the U.S.?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:42:26 AM EST
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You mean, Santa has to go through US immigration?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:49:11 AM EST
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Not to worry, he's over Siberia now, and if I remember correctly, we'd looked in someone's eyes and seen his soul thereabouts.  I reckon Santa's kosher with Homeland Security.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:52:29 AM EST
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Actually, scratch that.  I made the mistake of looking at the map and guessing rather than reading the location below (didn't see it at first).

I must now conclude that Santa is causing the energy crisis.  Why would you go west to the Great Wall and then back east to Shanghai?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:05:02 AM EST
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In one minute from now he reaches Christmas Island...
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 11:00:45 AM EST
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hey fran an'all

you already guessed italy's so i'll put hawaii's

MELE KALIKAMAKA!

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:53:54 AM EST
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That reminds me, I haven't watched National Lampoons yet.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:05:59 AM EST
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The deal is, the kids go to bed when Santa reaches France...  :)
by Sassafras on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 05:56:31 PM EST
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I told you that...

by supporting the 1935 Social Security Act you would be selling out the working class and capitulating to right-wing special interests who wrote half the bill?

Didn't see that one coming, didja?

To get Social Security passed, progressives had to agree to exclude nearly one-half of the working class, including two-thirds of all African Americans and more than one-half of all women.

Yep, that's the deal you would have had to make in 1935 to pass what we know now is one of the most progressive and successful governmental programs of all time. But in 1935, it didn't look that way when progressives had to accept the deal racist, reactionary Southern Democrats laid down in exchange for their votes.

These backward elements held power over key committees that could have scuttled Social Security and prevented even a vote. Their deal? Exclude all domestic workers, agricultural labor, state and local government employees, and many teachers, nurses, hospital workers, librarians and social workers. Their special interest? Keeping power by keeping intact the American-style apartheid system they presided over.

So what do we do? Kill the bill and try to come back later or take what you can get now?



"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:13:15 AM EST
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.  Yes, historically welfare programs like these start out as shitty compromises and are made better over a number of years (or decades) as they become a given/right/entitlement/whateveryouwannacallit for the country.  And, while I think that's very possible given the structure of this bill, it's not a guarantee.

Like Izzy said, we're still at the front end of the new political cycle.  It took the GOPers decades to get into a position to ram through their agenda, and they still didn't get the elements that were most important to the various factions (overturning Roe, privatizing Social Security, flat taxes, etc).

Just keep winning and pushing, and we'll fix it.  I think we're going to do some good with this.  But there's a lotta work to do.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:40:25 AM EST
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Of course, but I'm a glass-half-full guy on this one.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:40:15 AM EST
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As am I.  Few things worth doing are easy.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 11:17:47 AM EST
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Well, this uninsured, living under the poverty-level, pre-existing condition-riddled citizen is taking a moment to say - YAY!  It's been a long time coming...

I'll focus on the fight day after tomorrow - I'm gonna enjoy the glow for a day.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:57:57 PM EST
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I'm very happy for you. yours' is the vewpoint that keeps being lost in the chasing of the perfect.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:05:17 PM EST
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Thanks, Helen! (((hug)))  Hope your Christmas eve is going well.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:08:29 PM EST
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Well, I'm well fed and I'm most of the way through a bottle of wine. Good telly as well.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:22:02 PM EST
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Sounds excellent.  Despite my current rush of warm fuzzies, I've actually declared a moratorium on Christmas this year -- I'm still not fully recovered from a hellish Thanksgiving! -- so I'm just taking it easy, which is nice.  I do have to go to a dinner tonight, but there's no gifts involved, so should be fairly low-key.  I might wear my red shoes, though.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:29:50 PM EST
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Where?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:30:45 PM EST
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Umm, .. shrek and Victorian farm. Plus I videoed 6 days 7 nights and Bridgett Jones from last night which I'm watching today.

then later I'll record shakespeare in love for tomorrow morning.

And booze lowers the threshold of what's watchable anyway.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:46:35 PM EST
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and forgive me that I was a little too "content" to ask how your xmas eve is going. Even if it's early afternoon over your way.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:27:54 PM EST
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lol - no worries.  I consider myself "in rome" when entering et threads.  Saying 'good morning' in the salon at midnight is normal now!  

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:32:03 PM EST
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I'd be more happy with this bill if the US hadn't just spent $1 trillion to shore up a corrupt financial sector and $900 billion on stupid wars.  The bonuses Goldman Sachs has payed out since TARP would have been enough for 100 to 200 free clinics.  Projecting from my own position, I'd like to submit part of the anger over the US "Health Insurance Reform" is the in-your-face evidence of how powerless the Left/Progressive movements are.  

The Democratic Party depends on the Left/Progressive movements to volunteer for staff and campaign positions.

As far as I'm concerned they can get their BFF in the FIRE industries to do those jobs in 2010.


No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:59:18 PM EST
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FT: Lloyd Blankfein (Goldman Sachs CEO
Le Monde: Lula (President of Brazil)

Good to see that Le Monde is not always a FT wannabe.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:13:52 AM EST
I don't know as much about Lula as I should, but what little I do know I've liked.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 09:19:31 AM EST
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Merry Christmas Fran from all the LEPs.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 10:33:08 AM EST
Thank you, and Merry Christmas right back to all the LEP's. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:53:38 PM EST
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Our first major winter storm in Oklahoma, just in time for Christmas.  We're actually under a blizzard warning, I think the first of those I have ever seen here.  Snow and blowing snow with forecasts of more than 6 inches across the central part of the state, with accumulations of more than a foot in some places.  The OKC TV stations have gone to non-stop weather coverage.  You'd think it was a new ice age from their breathless tone.  Most of the state will come to a grinding halt for a day or two.

Murray Cressmus to all.

Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.

by budr on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 12:12:41 PM EST
I recall some genuine blizzard conditions both in Whizbang and environs and at Stillwater, while I was at OSU. Six inches to a foot of blowing snow, temperatures down well below 0F and winds of 20 to 30 mph. While at Stillwater I shared an old two bedroom house with friends during one of these. The gas pressure dropped till there was barely enough to keep the open gas heater burning, the single pane windows formed a sheet of ice on the outside and we were living in two pairs of pants, wearing multiple shirts and jackets indoors. Probably the winter of '63. Parents were calling to make sure we were O.K.

I worked in the Aquatic Biology Lab on the far side of the campus and walked to work, so I left early and took it in stages, stopping at the library to thaw out my nose and toes. As long as it was only snow it was O.K.

When I still lived in Whizbang I recall years when the January-February storm brought a foot of snow, followed by sleet and then freezing rain.  This formed a thick glaze of ice on top of the snow.  I learned to drive on ice after one of those.  Another of those had struck when I was about 5 and when the snow stopped my mother let me out to play.  I promptly slid down a gentle hill but could not get traction to climb back up. Fortunately, her feet would break through the crust so she came down to get me.  I was too young to even feel humiliated.

Winter on the southern Great Plains. But as often as not weather during the Christmas break would be dry with shirtsleeve temperatures, or jacket at most.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:35:57 PM EST
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I hear there's zero visibility in OKC.  Sounds like a helluva storm.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:57:33 PM EST
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DIVERSIFICATION is the answer!

"Latin America has passed a major stress test," says Joyce Chang, Managing Director and Global Head of the Emerging Markets and Credit Research Group at JP Morgan.

Of course, those figures obscure huge differences within the region. At one end of the spectrum is Mexico, which is certain to earn the unenviable title this year of Latin America's worst performer; and Argentina, which JP Morgan believes will contract 4.5 percent this year. At the other is Peru, which is set to grow at least 1 percent this year and 5.4 percent next year; Colombia, which is expected to contract 0.5 percent in 2009 and grow 3 percent next; and, most importantly, Brazil, whose economic performance this year is expected to be flat but jump to 5 percent in 2010.

So what explains these huge differences, and what do they imply for Latin American nations as they strive to make the most of the world's long-awaited return to positive growth? One clear factor is location, as well as each country's relative diversification of export markets. For example, it is hardly surprising that Mexico, 80 percent of whose exports go to its northern neighbor, has fared worst. Not only that, says Jonathan Heath, director of economic studies at HSBC in Mexico City, but Mexico has been hit particularly hard because so many of its predominantly manufactured exports fed into the now-traumatized U.S. automobile sector**. "Mexico was doubly exposed," he says.

The same is largely true of Central America. Over the past decade or more, the tiny economies--the average GDP of Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama was less than $20 billion last year--have diversified export markets only at the margin, with the U.S. remaining Central America's overwhelmingly dominant trading partner. Looking forward, this is a potential concern because it means their future growth is inextricably and almost singularly linked to the fortunes of the U.S.

** I concluded the same a long time ago without even having to look at the figures.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 12:19:05 PM EST


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 12:22:24 PM EST
shit, I hope someone took it to a bird hospital

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:18:39 PM EST
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Given where it landed it is almost certain that it was taken to a shelter and will likely fly again. It is an adult bird but still was like a moth to the flame with the windmill. Fortunately the bald eagle is no longer endangered.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:00:55 PM EST
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Woman takes down Christmas tree to protest the bill

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:10:38 PM EST
Just....whuh?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:57:02 PM EST
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You know who's killing Christmas. Come on.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:06:57 PM EST
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Madness !!

She's taken down her Xmas tree (pagan) and the Xmas Lights (pagan) in protest at the defilement of God's holiday.

Man there's dumb and then, way, waaay below that, there's republican.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:34:27 PM EST
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"Theyve ruined christmas for all the senators and reprasentatives" (About 25 seconds in)

just Wow

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:44:59 PM EST
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Wow!  America dies on the day before Christmas.  A permanent memory, where were you when they passed health care destroyment.  Nothing left to do but stop filing IRS tax returns.
by Lasthorseman on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:57:24 PM EST
Happy Christmas all the same, LHM.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:08:14 PM EST
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WASHINGTON -- In 2006 and 2007, Goldman Sachs Group peddled more than $40 billion in securities backed by at least 200,000 risky home mortgages, but never told the buyers it was secretly betting that a sharp drop in U.S. housing prices would send the value of those securities plummeting.

And where is the Securities and Exchange Commission??

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 01:58:55 PM EST
Sitting in the Human Resources department at Goldman Sachs waiting for their interviews.


No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:00:50 PM EST
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That'd at least be something I could understand (after all, the SEC's never going to be able to match GS salaries).  I don't think SEC employees are even that connected to reality, though.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:03:04 PM EST
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A huge revolving Christmas star probably would make people happy, and I guess people in Munich must be enjoying this show being put up by a wind turbine. The wind turbine has nearly 9000 LED lights shining away, and using energy as low as that of a common hairdryer.

The project was initially an idea of Munich multimedia artist Michael Pendry, who approached Siemens and Stadtwerke München (Munich City Utilities) to allow him in creating this art piece. Needless to say, both agreed and Siemens helped with the LEDs which give out 20,000 candelas of lighting on the giant star.

It took nearly 12 months to finish the project, including the addition of all those LEDs on Stadtwerke München's wind turbine. As the blades of the turbine rotate, they put up a great show for onlookers. This Christmas Star will continue to shine until January 6, which is the last day of the Christmas season.



Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 02:57:04 PM EST
Is there a youtube of it spinning anywhere. It looks lovely.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:03:06 PM EST
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This

is all I could find.

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:32:40 PM EST
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Top stuff, no bald eagle would mess with that

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 04:43:36 PM EST
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Giant moths could be a problem though.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 05:35:26 PM EST
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Happy Christmas, everybody!  Health and peace to you all in the coming year.
by Sassafras on Thu Dec 24th, 2009 at 07:05:18 PM EST
Merry Christmas everyone!
As you already know we Serbs have our Christmas on January 7...
This is how we say:

Sretan Bozic! (Happy Christmas)
But we also say to each other :

  • Christ was born!
  • Truly was born ! (answer the other person)
by vbo on Fri Dec 25th, 2009 at 06:43:52 AM EST


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