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*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:54:33 PM EST
EUobserver / US says Croatia should join EU 'sooner instead of later'
"We hope that they will be on the road to EU membership sooner instead of later. Obviously, we don't have a vote in the EU, but we have made it clear to a number of our counterparts how valuable we think it will be when Croatia is a member," US secretary of state, Hilary Clinton, said after meeting Croatian foreign minister, Gordan Jandrokovic, in Washington on Thursday (10 December).


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:17:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Best reason I've heard all year to keep Croatia out of the EU for longer.
by paving on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 07:59:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Has nobody told the US that the EU is not NATO?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:42:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The US or Hilary?  Hilary is an idiot, a savvy politician, but still an idiot.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:30:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
EUobserver / 'Sarkozy is one of my best friends,' says Brown

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown stepped up their media charm offensive on Friday morning (11 December), as part of ongoing efforts to bury their recent differences.

Announcing their intentions to work together is securing an ambitious EU agreement on `fast-start' climate funding (2010-2012) for developing countries and EU emission cuts, the two leaders went out of their way to show all was well between London and Paris.

"It is a very strong relationship and one that is working today as we examine climate change," said Mr Brown in a joint press conference with the French leader.

The day before France announced it would follow the UK's lead and implement a one-off 50 percent windfall tax for French bankers receiving bonuses of over €27,000.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:17:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Brown and Sarkozy call truce to declare war on bankers - Europe, World - The Independent
Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy last night called a truce in their battle over how the City of London should be regulated and declared a joint offensive against excessive bonuses for bankers.

The Prime Minister and French President held a 30-minute tête-a-tête in the margins of a European Union summit in Brussels. A week ago, their meeting was billed as a showdown over inflammatory remarks by M Sarkozy, who declared that Britain was the "big loser" in the share-out of jobs on the European Commission and suggested that his French ally Michel Barnier would use his new post as Internal market commissioner to rein in the "excesses of Anglo-Saxon financial capitalism".



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:18:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I love it when sinking ships strap themselves together.
by paving on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 08:00:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Romania's presidential election: Against all odds | The Economist

IT SEEMED like a safe bet. Mircea Geoana, the centre-left challenger in Romania's presidential election, had the money, media and political backing that he needed to win. Sleek and Western-educated, he portrayed himself as the safe consensus candidate against Traian Basescu, the lively but exasperating former sea-captain (and once mayor of Bucharest) who has been the country's president since 2004.

For a few hours on December 6th it even appeared to have paid off. Exit polls gave Mr Geoana a narrow victory. He did win inside the country by 14,738 votes. But Romanians abroad cast 146,876 votes and Mr Basescu took 78% of them. The campaign was exceptionally dirty: observers think that both sides cheated. Mr Basescu's victory against largely hostile news coverage was impressive. Mr Geoana wants a rerun, but his support is dwindling. His Liberal allies now hope to form a government with Mr Basescu's centre-right Democrats.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:18:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Romania poised for partial recount of presidential votes | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 11.12.2009

The Romanian Constitutional Court on Friday ordered a re-examination and recount of votes annulled in Sunday's presidential run-off election.

Social Democrat candidate Mircea Geoana lost by a margin of just 70, 000 votes to incumbent President Traian Basescu, garnering 49.7 percent to Basescu's 50.3 percent.

Some 138,000 ballots papers previously declared invalid by electoral officials are to be recounted in the coming week.

Though mathematically possible, some analysts said it was unlikely that the move would change the election result.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:18:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Top court bans main Kurdish political party | France 24

AFP - Turkey's top court on Friday banned the country's main Kurdish group, on charges of links to separatist rebels.

The 11 judges of the Constitutional Court decided unanimously that the Democratic Society Party (DTP) had become a "focal point of activities against the indivisible unity of the state, the country and the nation", court president Hasim Kilic told a news conference here.

He said DTP chairman Ahmet Turk and fellow lawmaker Aysel Tugluk had been stripped of parliamentary immunity and banned from politics for five years along with 35 other party members.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:18:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Russia is the focus of Abkhaz presidential elections | World | Deutsche Welle | 11.12.2009

Although there are five candidates in the running for leadership, the race is really between incumbent President Sergei Bagapsh and former prime minister, Raul Khajimba.

The two are no strangers. Following the disputed outcome of the 2004 elections, they entered into an uneasy power-sharing arrangement, which was called off earlier this year when Khajimba resigned on the grounds of political incompatibility.

Some observers said the move was motivated by Khajimba's need to distance himself from the policies of the current administration ahead of the upcoming elections. But the two were never happy bedfellows.

The opposition leader, who is campaigning on a platform of nationalism, has repeatedly accused Bagapsh of being too "Georgia-friendly," while the incumbent president, hoping to ride back into power on a health and education ticket, has accused his rival of making promises he won't be able to keep.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:19:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thieves steal Cyprus ex-president's body from grave | France 24

AFP - Thieves opened the grave of former Cypriot president Tassos Papadopoulos and stole his corpse during the night, state television reported on Friday, interrupting its normal programming.

The current leader of Papadopoulos's centre-right DIKO party, Marios Garoyan, condemned what he called a "heinous and terrible crime."

Andros Kyprianou, head of the communist AKEL party that leads the Mediterranean island's government, expressed outrage at the crime, which came the day before a memorial service to mark the first anniversary of Papadopoulos's death.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:19:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Strange.  Does this act have some kind of cultural or symbolic meaning in that part of the world?  
by paving on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 08:06:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Desecrating a grave has the same symbolic meaning everywhere in the world, I think.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:40:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
This might have been a criminal enterprise. Compare the Flick grave robbery case.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 06:43:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC News - Removal of Saddam Hussein 'right', says Tony Blair

It would have been "right to remove" Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein even without evidence that he had weapons of mass destruction, Tony Blair has said.

The former prime minister said it was the "notion of him as a threat to the region" which had tilted him in favour of the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Without WMD claims it would have been necessary to "use and deploy different arguments," he told the BBC.

Mr Blair is expected to face the Iraq war inquiry early next year.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 09:29:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And a million dead Iraqis is a price we are willing to pay to do it, to paraphrase Madeleine Albright.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:39:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
To club down this 2002/3 propaganda again, you don't remove the leader of a political entity. You replace it.

In this instance, a toothless contained dictator was replaced with an anarchy of occupation troops, puppet and not-so-puppet confessionary leaders with own militias faking a national government, tribal militias, criminal syndicates, and terrorists of all sorts.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 06:47:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Clearly an improvement, right?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 06:56:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC News - Iraq oil capacity 'to reach 12m barrels per day'

Iraq's oil capacity could reach 12 million barrels per day (bpd) in six years, the country's oil minister says.

Hussein al-Shahristani told reporters in Baghdad that oil producers would not necessarily operate at full capacity, but would take into account demand.

Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil exporter, has a capacity of 12.5m bpd.

Earlier, a joint bid by Russian and Norwegian oil firms won the contract for the "supergiant" West Qurna field, said to have reserves of 13bn barrels.

Lukoil and Statoil will get $1.15 a barrel and will work to raise output from West Qurna Phase 2, in the Basra region, to 1.8m bpd. In June, a winning bid to develop another Iraqi field received $2 a barrel.

On Friday, the contract to develop the 12.6bn-barrel Majnoon field in southern Iraq was won by a consortium led by Shell. It also pledged to increase daily production to 1.8m barrels, up from only 46,000.

...But that's probably just a coincidence.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 08:16:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
that Iraq's oil production will be nowhere near 12mb/d in 6 years' time...

It's not because we no longer talk about Iraq in our news that things have stabilized over there, or that oil companies will invest a cent (ie, more than a few million in PR / diplomacy / long term strategic relationship maintenance). I seem to remember that big contracts were awarded a few years ago already...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:10:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
B92 [Serbia]: Hague: Gotovina defense team "on strike" (10 December 2009)
The defense lawyers think that the Hague Chief Prosecutor Serge Brammertz is "behind yesterday's police action the goal of which was to find the so-called artillery logs", and therefore are asking the trial chamber to "take concrete legal measures against him".

...

Croatian police yesterday morning searched the apartments of several persons from Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina as a part of the search for the artillery logs.

They included the apartments of retired general and former Hague indictee Rahim Ademi, Gotovina's associates and member of his defense team Željko Kučić and Marin Ivanović, and former chief of General Petar Stipetić's cabinet, Miroslav Vidović.

...

Brammertz's report about Croatia's cooperation with the Hague Tribunal depends on these logs, because some members of the EU do not wish to allow Croatia to start the judiciary and fundamental rights chapter negotiations, unless the logs have been given to the prosecution.



En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:58:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
There is a long history of tricksery with witheld evidence and plausible denial at Hague, from all parties (Kosovo Albanians, Bosnian and Serbian Serbs, Croatians etc); enough to keep domestic public opinion pessimistic about the guilt of 'national heroes', enough to convince some Western observers. Most notoriously the doubts cast on the numbers and circumstances of the death of Srebrenica victims, 'helped' by the relocation of mass graves. (The number of identified climbed to 6,307, with still more to analyse, the last mass grave having been found just a month ago.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:16:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
 ECONOMY & FINANCE 


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:55:00 PM EST
Banking on US Support: EU Calls for Tax on Global Financial Transactions - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

The European Union is urging the International Monetary Fund to pursue a global tax on financial transactions, known as a Tobin tax. Speaking after a two-day summit of EU leaders in Brussels, Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission, said: "The conclusion ... is to propose a global financial transaction levy. It wouldn't be fair that some impose very heavy burdens and others don't. I think it makes sense that a sector that created such a problem for our economies, our taxpayers ... also makes a contribution to the overall economy."

The proposal comes at a time when the International Monetary Fund is trying to develop ways to limit risk in the financial sector. "The European Council emphasizes the importance of renewing the economic and social contract between financial institutions and the society they serve," the EU wrote in the summit's closing statement.

Ever since the financial crisis plunged the world into an economic downturn, the European Union has been keen to find a way to avoid a repeat. But it is unlikely that the Tobin tax, named after American economist James Tobin, will gain much traction. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown proposed such a tax at November's G-20 summit of developed and emerging nations, arguing that the proceeds could be used to fund future financial bailouts. But the proposal faced immediate opposition from both US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and International Monetary Fund head Dominique Strauss-Kahn.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:14:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
No !! Don't wait for US support. Do it and erect an extra punitive trading levy on transactions from outside the compliant zone.

But they don't want to upset daddy so they won't do it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 05:10:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think they don't want to do anything and have the US take the blame.

Wait this is important. Someone is wrong on the Internet.
by generic on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 11:40:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Data on French tax evaders 'was stolen' from HSBC in Switzerland | France 24

Part of a list of 3,000 alleged French tax evaders being used by the French authorities to put pressure on Switzerland was stolen from HSBC Private Bank by a former employee, a French newspaper has reported.

Le Parisien reported on Wednesday that an employee working in the IT department at the Geneva branch of HSBC Private Bank stole the information in 2008 before fleeing to France.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:15:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Awesome.  IT salaries should be going up now.
by paving on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 08:07:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It's time to give up the dream of home ownership, says minister - UK Politics, UK - The Independent
The era in which all Britons aspire to own their own home may be coming to an end, according to the Housing minister, John Healey. In a controversial speech, he suggested that Britain may be moving towards a European model, with renting on a roughly equal footing with buying. He said home ownership had fallen from 71 per cent of households in 2003 to 68 per cent today, noting that this trend began in 2005, well before the recession. "I'm not sure that's such a bad thing," he said.

(I repeat my view: Britain is part of Europe, even if usually in denial.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:15:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Red faces as latest claims are revealed - UK Politics, UK - The Independent
...it was Quentin Davies, the defence minister, who was facing the most searching questions following the disclosure that he put in an invoice for £20,700 for repairs to his constituency home in Lincolnshire.

The work was evenly divided between shoring up its decorative belltower and replacing gutters on the main roof of the house. Mr Davies, who defected to Labour from the Tories in 2007, sent the bill to the Commons fees office in a bundle of receipts in February.

...Other senior Tories also faced embarrassment over the latest expenses revelations. Andrew Lansley, the shadow Health Secretary, submitted a £3,500 claim for the cost of insuring a medal and a painting. James Arbuthnot, the Tory chairman of Commons Defence Committee, submitted perhaps the most bizarre claim - for the cost of three garlic peelers, bought for £43 from the QVC Shopping channel.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:15:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
housing is artificially expensive in the UK because the housing stock is delierately held below demand.

I admit there are issues that most of the demand is in areas where there is genuinely a shortage of land, but the actual shortage is nothing like as bad as it appears to be.

also the refusal of government to build council housing to reduce the demand on housing over the last 30 years is cowardly and short sighted. Given the constraints, rented housing doesn't work in the UK because it's more expensive than purchased property.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 05:15:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Given the constraints, rented housing doesn't work in the UK because it's more expensive than purchased property.

For the 4 years I lived in London I could not have afforded the monthly payments on a mortgage on the properties I could afford to rent. Of course that was at the peak of the housing bubble, but still the conventional wisdom was that owning was cheaper...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:46:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
people don't see that interest payments are no different from home rental payments (you're "renting" the money), ie build up no capital. And when comparing renting to owning, you'd need to add up the impact of the amounts (for the difference between your mortgage payment and your rental for an euivalent place) that you'd save and, presumably get income on.

In practice, the main advantage of buying used to be that it represented a form of forced saving, allowing you to build up your patrimony. But with interest-only, 2/28, resettable and other fancy loans where you paid almost exclusively interest, the borrowers did not accumulate any equity unless there was a price increase... but they were on the hook for asset value losses.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:14:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
In the UK market, property almost always accumulates. The whole point of "buy-to-let" mortgages that were major creators of the recent property bubble here is that you don't pay off the equity, rental pays the interest and inflation increases the capital stake.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:29:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
that's exactly what I said: interest payment and rent are substitutable, and actual wealth accumulation only comes from asset price inflation, a highly risky bet to make when you carry the risk of the downside (prices going down).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:58:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe, but that is a twist cos up until a few years ago mortgage repayments were invariably much less than the rental on similar properties. It was saving up the 10 - 20% downpayment that were the problems.

However, what you're demonstrating is that the artificail shortage of property in london was forcing rental into ridiculous areas as well. There are believed to be over a million empty properties within the M25. If they came on the market they'd trash current property and rental prices.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:27:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Prime minister rules out appeal for help from IMF | France 24

AFP - Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou on Friday ruled out going cap in hand to the International Monetary Fund as a way out of his country's 300-billion-euro debt morass.

The bealeaguered premier said it was "out of the question to resort to the IMF" after earlier stating in Brussels at a European Union summit that Greece was "not about to default on its debts."

Greece's sovereign debt was downgraded this week by the international ratings agency Fitch, prompting fears of dangerous divergence in the 16 countries which use the euro.

Analysts had interpreted eurozone and EU political reaction as a precursor to the sort of bail-out assistance offered last year to Hungary, Latvia and Romania, especially with mounting deficit worries also extending to Ireland and Spain.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:15:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Shell-Petronas consortium win bid for large southern oil field at auction | France 24
AFP - Iraq reached agreement with energy giants Shell and Petronas Friday for a massive southern oil field, part of a two-day auction that seeks to dramatically boost the country's crude output.

The successful bid from the Anglo-Dutch and Malaysian consortium kicked off the bid round, which aims to catapult Iraq towards the top of the list of the world's oil producers and bring in much-needed revenues to rebuild the country.

"The price that the consortium offered is a little bit less than the price offered by the oil ministry," Shahristani said.

"It gets 100 points, so we can announce that Shell wins the bidding for Majnoon."

The two companies requested fees of 1.39 dollars per barrel of oil extracted from the field, and projected that they would produce 1.8 million barrels per day.

The project will be split 60 percent for Shell and 40 percent for Petronas.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:16:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The real reasons for the Iraq invasion become evident.  I look forward to a future Iraq government nationalizing their oil wealth and taking it all back.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:45:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Looking for Five Billion Euros: Airbus A400M Takes Off into Uncertain Future - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
The good news is that the Airbus military transport plane A400M can fly. The plane took off for its maiden flight on Friday in Seville, Spain. But the project is now €5 billion over budget and EADS would like European governments to help cover the shortfall.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:16:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Broken image embedding...

As for a comment, I was not at all enthusiastic about the mixing of military and civilian airspace in EADS, not to mention in Airbus itself.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 06:35:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Anyone care to explain the different advantages of two, four, six, or 8 propellor blades? I presume it's a mix of type of engine, take-off thrust v cruising power - but it would be interesting to know.

Wiki gives this explanation.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:02:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Sven, this appears to be the relevant Wiki quote, your link, under Aviation, Aircraft Propellers:
A further consideration is the number and the shape of the blades used. Increasing the aspect ratio of the blades reduces drag but the amount of thrust produced depends on blade area, so using high aspect blades can lead to the need for a propeller diameter which is unusable. A further balance is that using a smaller number of blades reduces interference effects between the blades, but to have sufficient blade area to transmit the available power within a set diameter means a compromise is needed. Increasing the number of blades also decreases the amount of work each blade is required to perform, limiting the local Mach number - a significant performance limit on propellers.


As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 01:46:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
One could argue it's an unobjectionable devlopment as it's basically a heavy cargo aircraft like the Hercules. Of course, as the Hercules is used to deliver daisy-cutters, the rationalisation that the A400's main purppse will be for humanitarian missions may wasily be subverted.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:03:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
is the closest thing Europe has to a joint defense policy. And presumably can be used for humanitarian interventions as well as for invasions...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:16:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]
He, and the "sucess" is very representative, a direct parallell for joint European defence efforts as well...

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:38:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Railway Gazette: Italian north-south high speed line completed

ITALY: Celebrations were held in Milano on December 5 to mark the completion of the final sections of the north-south high speed rail corridor, which opens for revenue service with the timetable change on December 13.

Completion of the Novara - Milano, Bologna - Firenze and Napoli - Salerno links brings the total length of Italy's Alta Velocità network to more than 1 000 route-km, stretching from Torino to Salerno. Describing the occasion as `an Italian miracle', FS Group Chief Executive Mauro Moretti said the high speed line would act as a `vertical spine' for the country, linking most of the major cities and serving around 65% of the country's population.

(Shameless self-promotion: I'll post a 2009 high-speed review on Sunday.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:16:51 PM EST
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And Berlusoni said:
Berlusconi: "L'Italia ha ora una ferrovia numero 1 nel mondo"
This was the top news item on the Trenitalia website, when I was looking for details on tomorrow's strike (which was postponed by orders of the government).
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 04:30:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Any word on the Venice line?
by paving on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 08:08:54 PM EST
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It is in coma (just like the "Terzo Valico" to Genoa). Various studies have been completed and planning is on-going, even finished for the first third to Brescia; but I am not aware of a date set for the issuing of construction tenders. Note though that two lower-speed sections that will form part of the corridor are already in operation since 2007: the four-tracking Pioltello-Treviglio (just outside Milan) and Padua-Venezia Mestre. (Check here.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:31:26 AM EST
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EUobserver / New Hungarian commissioner: 'Everyone says I'm an unusual choice'
EUOBSERVER / INTERVIEW - Even in a season of surprising EU appointments, the person who has been nominated as Hungary's next commissioner is something of an outlier. An economics professor and member of the board of directors of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, but also an author of 11 books in English and Hungarian and the editor-in-chief of Hungary's main left-wing academic journal, Laszlo Andor is more the donnish intellectual than the seasoned political operative.

...Mr Andor is an ardent Keynesian, a school of economics which advocates government intervention in the economy, or "post-Keynesian" (the term he prefers) and a strong critic of those he calls the "Market Maoists" or "market fundamentalists" of eastern Europe since 1989.

He was an opponent of the Iraq war and regularly rubs shoulders with the "galacticos" of the left-liberal universe. His quarterly journal, Eszmelet (Consciousness) - essentially a Hungarian Le Monde Diplomatique - publishes texts by the likes of Ignacio Ramonet, Noam Chomsky, Slavoj Zizek and Arundhati Roy. He believes the Maastricht criteria are misguided, that Europe suffers from a democratic deficit and blames the financial crisis on the "anglo-American" economic model.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:17:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not mentioned in the excerpt is his portfoli: Employment, Social Affairs and Inclusion.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:50:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean projects a 4.1% growth rate for the region in 2010 but questions persist on the sustainability of said 'recovery'.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 06:55:46 PM EST
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House Passes Far-Reaching Bill Tightening Financial Rules   NYT

WASHINGTON -- The House on Friday approved a Democratic plan to significantly tighten federal regulation of Wall Street and the financial sector, advancing a far-reaching Congressional response to the financial crisis still reverberating through the economy.

After three days of floor debate, the House voted 223 to 202 to approve the measure, which did not get a single Republican vote. It creates a new agency to oversee consumer lending, establishes new rules for transactions that contributed to the meltdown, and seeks to reduce the threat that one or two huge companies on the verge of collapse could bring down the economy.

"As we have seen over the past year, our financial system is broken and we can no longer afford to maintain the status quo," said Representative Ed Perlmutter, a Colorado Democrat and member of the Financial Services Committee, which spent months assembling the measure. The Senate has made less headway in drafting a companion bill.

The vote is the most significant legislative act to confront the financial crisis that exploded last year since the vast and costly bailout that was rammed through Congress at the peak of the emergency. It was an effort to address comprehensively what many of the bill's supporters have called the underlying causes of the collapse -- reckless risk-taking unrestrained by regulation.

The bill's principal provisions establish a process for dismantling large, failing financial institutions; set up a council to identify and regulate firms that are so big, interconnected or risky that they need heightened supervision to keep them from bringing down the whole financial system; create a new consumer financial-protection agency to squelch unfair and abusive practices; and for the first time, regulate over-the-counter derivatives markets. The bill also contains provisions on executive pay, investor protection, credit ratings, hedge funds and insurance.



As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:26:59 AM EST
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House Passes Bill to Audit the Fed George Washington  Zero Hedge

We've won round 1!

I have just received confirmation from a very credible Congressional source that the bill to audit the Federal Reserve is included in the House financial reform legislation which passed today. My source says:

   The Fed audit provision which passed the Financial Services Committee a few weeks ago is part of the bill. This is a real milestone, as it means that the full House of Representatives has passed a bill that mandates a complete audit of the Fed.

 The effort to audit the Fed - supported by 79% of the American people - is gaining traction.



As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 01:01:32 AM EST
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the measure, which did not get a single Republican vote

Is any bill getting any republican votes in either house these days?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:48:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes. Support for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 09:39:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
the bill to fund the occupation of Afghanistan will get Republican votes...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:16:59 AM EST
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It had better get majority republican support, else it might not pass.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 01:49:49 PM EST
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Kucinich To Introduce Legislation To Mirror UK Banker Bonuses  Tyler Durden  Zero Hedge

Congressman Kucinich has announced that even after his proposed amendment to HR 4173 to tax TARP recipients was shot down, he "will be introducing legislation based on the amendment that [he] offered, that will pave the way for a more fair and just tax treatment of absurd bonuses in the financial industry."

It will be useful to see if the vote goes once again along party lines, in which case the banana republic nature of America will truly shine, as republicans and democrats finally confirm they have terminally flip-flopped on all issues pertaining to Wall Street, even as Main Street anger over banker compensation continues rising. If this proposal gets voted on, Democrats, who will likely once again vote it down, stand to reap the full fury of over 300 million Americans, who will realize that the Democratic party now holds banker remuneration and bonus concerns closer to its heart than those of small and medium-sized businesses (let along Joe Sixpack). And in that case, watch out come mid-term election time. Now if only Bernanke's reappointment can be stalled for another year, there just may be a little hope for capitalism yet.

From Kucinich' website:

Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) today released the following statement in response to news reports that Goldman Sachs has decided to alter its bonus payments:    

"Today, Goldman Sachs bowed to public pressure and promised to suspend bonus payments to its top executives.  It's important to understand this in perspective. Goldman did this only in the face of deafening public criticism over bonus payments to bankers.

    "Once the uproar subsides, executives throughout the financial services industry will return to the same practice of showering themselves with outrageous compensation packages and bonuses.

    "We need to reform fundamentally our tax code so that we don't have to rely on extraordinary public outcry to curb such excessive behavior.

    "I offered a commonsense amendment to HR 4173, the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, that would have taxed the bonuses of executives at TARP recipients, as well as the profits reported by these institutions. My amendment simply acknowledged that without the extraordinary actions of the federal government, many of these institutions would have collapsed a long time ago, and it would have held to account those individuals that made the decisions and that led to the crisis.

    "Unfortunately my amendment was not accepted by the Rules Committee.  Soon I will be introducing legislation based on the amendment that I offered, that will pave the way for a more fair and just tax treatment of absurd bonuses in the financial industry.

    "Leaders in Great Britain and France have recently announced proposals to tax the bonuses of financial executives--if the United States remains silent on the issue, we will in effect be leading the world in a `race to the bottom' of international efforts to regulate the financial services industry.




As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 01:22:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
 WORLD 


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:55:24 PM EST
Hardline Jewish settlers are blamed for West Bank mosque vandalism | France 24

AFP - Assailants vandalised a West Bank mosque on Friday, torching its library and spraying hate messages in Hebrew in an attack blamed on hardline Jews angered by plans to curb settlement building.

Clashes erupted as villagers hurled stones at Israeli troops sent to investigate the overnight incident at the mosque in the northern West Bank's Yasuf village. The security forces responded with teargas.

One of the slogans sprayed on a wall read: "Get ready to pay the price." Another read: "We will burn you all."

Village councillors and Palestinian security officials blamed Israelis from a nearby settlement for the attack.

The area is home to some of the most hardline settlers who advocate a "price tag" policy under which they target Palestinians in retaliation for any Israeli government measure they see as threatening Jewish settlements.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:11:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
UN envoy to Afghanistan to step down | World | Deutsche Welle | 11.12.2009
Kai Eide, the UN envoy to Afghanistan, has announced his resignation after two years in the post. Was Afghanistan's flawed election the main stumbling block?


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:12:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Reports suggest German special forces involved in controversial airstrike | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 10.12.2009

The German daily Bild Zeitung has published a report based on sources from German military circles saying that members of a German elite task force were involved in the ordering of the September airstrike near Kunduz in northern Afghanistan, which killed up to 142 Afghans, including civilians.

The taskforce, codenamed 'Taskforce 47', was reportedly made up in part of soldiers belonging to the Kommando Spezial Kraefte (KSK), or the German Special Forces Command.

Colonel Georg Klein, who was in charge of security of the German military base near Kunduz, was reportedly in consultation with at least five officers before ordering the airstrike; all five of these officers belonged to 'Taskforce 47'. It remains unclear if any of these soldiers were part of the KSK.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:13:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Guttenberg makes an unexpected visit to Afghanistan | World | Deutsche Welle | 11.12.2009

German defense minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg made an unnanounced visit to Afghanistan on Friday. He is touring Kunduz, the northern Afghan city where a German commander ordered a NATO airstrike on two hijacked fuel trucks two months ago. The airstrike was reported to have killed over 140 people, including civilians and has led to a scandal over alleged cover-ups. A German defense ministry statement said Guttenberg wanted to visit Kunduz to get a first-hand look at the current situation in the war-torn country.

Under pressure from the public

Guttenberg has been faced with increasing pressure from the German public to reveal all of the known details behind the NATO airstrike. Guttenberg has recently stated that the attack was "militarily inappropriate", reversing an earlier statement, but opposition parties have said he should have known when he made his first assessment about the civilian casualties. The news weekly Stern reported that Guttenberg had at that stage already received a report from the International Committee of the Red Cross which mentioned 74 civilian deaths, including children. 



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:13:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Süddeutsche describes him as "Minister für Selbstverteidigung", i.e., Minister for self-defense....
In diesen Tagen ist Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg eher Selbstverteidigungsminister als Verteidigungsminister. An diesem Freitag ist er überraschend mit Parlamentariern zu einem Tagestrip nach Afghanistan geflogen, um mit den Soldaten in Kundus zu reden. Zivilisten sei "fürchterliches Leid" geschehen, sagt er im Frühstücksfernsehen.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 04:32:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
LOL. I should read the Süddeutsche more often...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 04:44:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Kunduz affair really exposes Guttenberg as the shallow but career- and media-conscious yuppie. Question is, when will the majority of the public take notice?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 04:49:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That's very clever...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:13:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Europe's spy satellites take on US might in the skies | France 24
France has its Helios satellites, Germany its SAR-Lupe radar aircraft and Italy its Cosmo SkyMed. The problem is that each does not know what the others are doing - or snooping on. Now a new system, called MUSIS, aims to change that.

It's been called the great golden gizmo of French military spy satellites and, once it's launched, the Helios 2B promises to upgrade European intelligence gathering, providing high-resolution images of often remote, dangerous terrain and assisting in military risk assessments.

On Wednesday, the Helios 2B - a 4,200-kilogram, golden hued satellite - was scheduled to blast off on a European Ariane rocket from a launch site in French Guiana. The launch was, however, indefinitely postponed due to technical problems with the Ariane launcher, according to French defence ministry officials.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:13:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
France 24:
a 4,200-kilogram, golden hued satellite

Ooh - shiny!

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 08:23:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Telangana to become new state | France 24
AFP - India announced on Thursday that it planned to create the country's 29th state, after a hunger strike by a regional leader and escalating protests from supporters.

Home Minister P. Chidambaram said the government would begin work to found the separate state of Telangana, which will be carved out of Andhra Pradesh in the southeast.

"The process of forming the state of Telangana will be initiated," Chidambaram told reporters.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:14:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This is slowly garnering all the attributes of a telenovela [soap opera], with [guitar] music and all.  Probably not the best of metaphors, but what the heck.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 06:03:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 LIVING OFF THE PLANET 
 Environment, Energy, Agriculture, Food 


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:56:05 PM EST
EUobserver / Europe offers €7 billion for third world climate cash

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - European Union leaders have agreed to offer around €7.2 billion to help developing countries deal with the effects of climate change over the next three years.

After a hard push by the Swedish presidency of the EU at a summit of the bloc's premiers and presidents in Brussels on Friday to get every single member state on board with a contribution to the pool of money, by mid-morning, each capital had signed up with a figure, even if from some of the poorer countries the amount was only symbolic.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:00:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Climate in Brussels: Europe Turns Up the Heat on the US - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
European Union leaders meeting in Brussels have agreed on funds to help the developing world address climate change and demanded the same from the US. German Chancellor Merkel also says that Washington's emissions reduction pledge doesn't go far enough.

(That's all nice, but what about giving out bank data?...)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:01:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Or climate data...

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:41:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What's your problem with giving out climate data?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Dec 14th, 2009 at 04:31:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And how is not/giving out climate data turning up the heat on the USA?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Dec 14th, 2009 at 04:33:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
A part of the CRU controversy is about how leading climate researchers are withholding the data/source codes they use in their models. Not even what's used in peer-reviewed articles is released. Supposedly it has something to do with the data being proprietary and the scientists jealous over their work, but I still find it quite unreasonable.

What would happen in physics or economics if someone claims some earth-shattering theory and then reguse to provide the data?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Mon Dec 14th, 2009 at 02:58:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And what does this have to do with turning up the heat on the USA? Or the release of bank data to the USA?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Dec 14th, 2009 at 03:54:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Next year forecast to be hottest on record - Climate Change, Environment - The Independent

The "central estimate" of their forecast is that the global average surface temperature for 2010 will be 0.58 degrees C above the long-term average for 1961-1990 (which is 14 degrees C), compared to the average for 1998, which was 0.52 degrees above.

If a new hottest year is indeed recorded, it will undermine the argument of climate change sceptics that the actual warming of the atmosphere ceased in 1998. Earlier this week the head of the World Meteorological Organisation, Michel Jarraud, insisted the world was "still in a warming trend". The new record is likely to be broken, the Met Office said, because of a combination of global warming and El Nino, the periodic, natural warming of the waters of the eastern tropical Pacific, which is currently pushing up world temperatures.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:01:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
US mine firm pays historic 1.79 billion dollars for cleanup | France 24

AFP - A bankrupt Arizona copper mining firm has paid 1.79 billion dollars for environmental cleanup and restoration in the largest such payout in US history, US federal agencies said Thursday.

The funds, obtained through Asarco's bankruptcy reorganization, will be used to pay for past and future costs to clean up hazardous mining waste at more than 80 sites in 19 states.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:01:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Centuries-Old Planetary Mystery Solved With Data From Cassini  NYT

Researchers have solved what may be the oldest mystery in planetary science, the two-tone surface of Saturn's moon Iapetus.

The odd feature -- the moon's trailing side is about 10 times brighter than its leading side -- has been a mystery since it was first observed by Giovanni Cassini in 1671. In two papers published online by Science, researchers have unraveled the mystery, using images and data from instruments aboard the spacecraft named for Cassini.

The studies confirm an earlier idea that dust, most likely from another of Saturn's moons, falls on the leading side of Iapetus as it orbits the planet. "It's just like a motorcyclist, who only gets the flies on the leading side of the helmet rather than the trailing side," said Tillmann Denk of the Free University of Berlin, an author (with John R. Spencer of the Southwest Research Institute) of one of the papers and lead author of the other.

But the pattern of the surface features -- the dark area extends to the trailing side at the equator, for example -- is not fully explained by the deposition dust. Rather, the researchers say, the reason has a lot to do with the moon's rotation on its axis, which takes 80 earth days.

Such a slow rotation ("mid-day" lasts for a couple of weeks) allows the distant sun to warm the dark dust-covered areas enough that water ice becomes vapor. The vapor migrates elsewhere, freezing to ice again when it reaches colder areas. The areas where the ice was lost become darker, and those that gained ice become brighter.



As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:31:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Geothermal Project in California Is Shut Down  NYT

The company in charge of a California project to extract vast amounts of renewable energy from deep, hot bedrock has removed its drill rig and informed federal officials that the government project will be abandoned.

The project by the company, AltaRock Energy, was the Obama administration's first major test of geothermal energy as a significant alternative to fossil fuels and the project was being financed with federal Department of Energy money at a site about 100 miles north of San Francisco called the Geysers. But on Friday, the Energy Department said that AltaRock had given notice this week that "it will not be continuing work at the Geysers" as part of the agency's geothermal development program.

The project's apparent collapse comes a day after Swiss government officials permanently shut down a similar project in Basel, because of the damaging earthquakes it produced in 2006 and 2007. Taken together, the two setbacks could change the direction of the Obama administration's geothermal program, which had raised hopes that the earth's bedrock could be quickly tapped as a clean and almost limitless energy source.

The Energy Department referred other questions about the project's shutdown to AltaRock, a startup company based in Seattle. Reached by telephone, the company's chief operations officer, James T. Turner, confirmed that the rig had been removed but said he had not been informed of the notice that the company had given the government. Two other senior company officials did not respond to requests for comment, and it was unclear whether AltaRock might try to restart the project with private money.



As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:51:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The project's apparent collapse comes a day after Swiss government officials permanently shut down a similar project in Basel, because of the damaging earthquakes it produced in 2006 and 2007.

Paging Nomad...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:14:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
This is a brand new news:

Definitives Aus für Basler Geothermieprojekt (Schweiz, NZZ Online)Definite End for geothermal project in Basel(Switzerland, NZZ Online)
10. Dezember 2009, 16:28, NZZ Online10. Dezember 2009, 16:28, NZZ Online
Das Basler Geothermieprojekt wird abgebrochen. Eine Risikoanalyse hat ergeben, dass mit bis gegen 30 Erdbeben gerechnet werden müssen und die Erdstösse auch während dem Betrieb auftreten würden.The geothermal project in Basel will be abandoned. A risk analysis gave the result that up to 30 earthquakes must be expected and that the tremors will occur even during operation.

A critical note; unlike earthquakes caused by mining or hydropower, these quakes aren't the result of extra stresses but that of the lubrication and early triggering of existing stresses.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:46:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
See this discussion by Nomad and me. We seemed to agree that lubricating actually lowers the chance of highly destructive earthquakes even if it increases the frequency of small ones.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 02:44:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 LIVING ON THE PLANET 
 Society, Culture, History, Information 


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:56:37 PM EST
The Big Question: After decades of controversy, could abortion become legal in Ireland? - Europe, World - The Independent
Why are we asking this now?

This week three women mounted a legal challenge at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, arguing that the Irish Republic's strict abortion laws violated their rights. Specifically they claim that they had to go abroad for abortions and in doing so their health was put at risk. They say this amounted to inhumane treatment. Two of the women are Irish while the third is a Lithuanian living in Ireland. One was an unemployed long-term alcoholic who lived beneath the poverty line and was trying to regain custody of her four children when she became pregnant. Another was at risk of an extra-uterine pregnancy while the third was recovering from cancer and feared a relapse. The women are said to have borrowed money from friends and a money-lender to travel abroad for their abortions.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:58:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Rabbis rage against net 'abominations' - Middle East, World - The Independent

Ultra-orthodox rabbis in Israel are trying to crack down on growing use of the internet among their followers, saying that it is filled with "abomination" and is leading believers astray.

But despite their efforts, the number of ultra-orthodox Israelis online is growing rapidly, while ultra-orthodox websites are proliferating.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:59:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Strange news article, that seems to miss the novel point, that they are actually attacking specifically Haredi websites (maybe because they entice people into using the internet, after which who knows what may happen, but there may be inter-Haredi issues that I'm missing). Here is something from Ynet
The ultra-Orthodox community's senior rabbis have declared war on haredi websites, saying they contribute to corruption within the community.

Is a harsh document obtained by Ynet Thursday, the rabbis denounce the websites - the majority of which are daily news publications unsanctioned by the ultra-Orthodox establishment - on grounds that they "pursue all manners of news and gossip that defame our public" and "spread slander, lies and impurities to thousands.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 04:37:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Germany to set up centre to coordinate fight against botnets - The H Security: News and Features

In 2010 the German government is planning to pick up the fight against infected home computers. In the first half of next year it plans to set up an advisory centre which will help users purge their computers of viruses and bots. The idea, jointly developed by the Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) and the Association of the German Internet Industry (eco), is based on the premise that internet service providers (ISPs) have long had the technical capability to identify infected computers by analysing network traffic. The project was officially announced by BSI and eco at today's fourth national IT summit in Stuttgart.

According to the plan, ISPs will contact customers whose PCs are infected with a bot, possibly by post or by telephone. The plan also contemplates having infected computers automatically connect to a special web page each time they connect to the internet. Before the plans are implemented, however, a decision needs to be made on what sanctions customers who decline to cooperate with their ISP can be subjected to. According to an eco project manager, quoted by the dpa, "Anyone surfing without proper anti-virus software is endangering other web users, in the same way that a car driver driving with faulty brakes is endangering other road users."



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:59:33 PM EST
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France to hand back Egypt relics during Mubarak visit | France 24

AFP - France will hand back to Egypt five stolen relics on Monday when President Hosni Mubarak visits Paris, ending a row over the wall fragments sold to the Louvre.

...The five small relics were chipped off the wall painting of an ancient Egyptian tomb dating back to the 18th dynasty, centuries before Christ, and are currently in storage at the Louvre museum.

Cairo's antiquities department, which controls access to all of Egypt's archeological sites, had in October broken off relations with the Louvre in protest and said ties would be restored once the relics were restored.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:59:51 PM EST
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New giant virus discovered | France 24

AFP - Scientists in France have isolated a new giant virus that lurks inside amoeba and whose gene pool includes genetic material from other species.

The virus "is a completely new viral form," said Didier Raoult, head of infectious and emerging tropical disease research at Aix-Marseille 2 University in France.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:00:09 PM EST
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Dinosaur fossil fills gaps in evolutionary knowledge - Science, News - The Independent

The dinosaur, called Tawa hallae, lived about 230 million years ago and was found in a quarry in northern New Mexico. It possess anatomical features that link it with other dinosaurs living much further south in what is now South America. Researchers said that Tawa supports the idea that the dinosaur lineage evolved in the southern part of the supercontinent Pangea. Successive waves of migration from that region resulted in a diverse variety of dinosaurs spreading to other parts of the giant continent, which later split into several separate continents.

Sterling Nesbitt of the American Museum of Natural History said that the discovery of Tawa, along with other two-legged, meat-eating therapod dinosaurs in the same quarry, suggests that dinosaurs did not evolve in the part of Pangea that became North America but that they had migrated there from the south. "We would expect that all of the therapod dinosaurs found in the quarry were related to each other. But they are not. Tawa and two other carnivorous dinosaurs from North America each have their closest relatives in South America," Dr Nesbitt said.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 02:00:25 PM EST
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Boom! Hok! A Monkey Language Is Deciphered  NYT

Boom boom! (I'm here, come to me!)
Krak krak! (Watch out, a leopard!)
Hok hok hok! (Hey, crowned eagle!)

Very good -- you have already mastered half the basic vocabulary of the Campbell's monkey, a fellow primate that lives in the forests of the Tai National Park in Ivory Coast. The adult males have six types of call, each with a specific meaning, but they can string two or more calls together into a message with a different meaning.

Having spent months recording the monkeys' calls in response to both natural and artificial stimuli, a group led by Klaus Zuberbühler of the University of St. Andrews in Scotland argues that the Campbell's monkeys have a primitive form of syntax.

....

"Krak" is a call that warns of leopards in the vicinity. The monkeys gave it in response to real leopards and to model leopards or leopard growls broadcast by the researchers. The monkeys can vary the call by adding the suffix "-oo": "krak-oo" seems to be a general word for predator, but one given in a special context -- when monkeys hear but do not see a predator, or when they hear the alarm calls of another species known as the Diana monkey.

The "boom-boom" call invites other monkeys to come toward the male making the sound. Two booms can be combined with a series of "krak-oos," with a meaning entirely different to that of either of its components. "Boom boom krak-oo krak-oo krak-oo" is the monkey's version of "Timber!" -- it warns of falling trees.

There is yet another variation on this theme, Dr. Zuberbühler's team reports. Into the "Timber!" call, the Campbell's monkeys insert a series of up to seven "hok-oo" calls. The combined call indicates the presence of other monkey groups and is heard most often when the monkeys are on the edge of their home range.



As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:40:59 AM EST
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A journalism magazine that turned into a feisty web presence has finally died. Not unexpectedly, but nevertheless a blow to journalism.

While dying, Editor & Publisher taught journalism how to live

I followed the E&P regularly since it had excellent, informed, sceptical and well written articles about the print world.

It's a sad day, but in a strange way the death of Editor & Publisher gives me hope for the future of journalism. Because they showed us a blueprint, that size or technology is overrated, that a half-dozen people can make a difference just by asking the right questions and by not backing down. And if Greg Mitchell and the others could accomplish this at a small, shrinking trade publication, then I know that it can happen again and will happen again, somewhere else and in some other format -- that no-holds-barred journalism is possible even on these weird little newfangled tablets or whatever.

There's an interview with the editor Greg Mitchell (formerly of Crawdaddy, a 70's music paper) that lays out his and E&P's journalistic philosophy.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:47:26 AM EST
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 PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:56:59 PM EST
UK government warns its compatriots against drink-skiing | France 24

British tourists coming to France for the ski season have been warned by their own government to be careful when drinking at high altitudes. The UK Foreign Office (FCO) campaign comes after more than 30 Britons died in Alpine ski resorts last year. Many died because they underestimated the risk of drinking at a high altitude, according to British diplomats.   A study published by the FCO estimated a third of skiers and snowboarders under 25 had experienced problems abroad linked to a mix of altitude, adrenaline and alcohol.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:57:23 PM EST
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natural selection
by paving on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 08:11:25 PM EST
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Were any of these eligible for Darwins?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:16:56 AM EST
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No. This, on the other hand, may qualify.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:41:41 AM EST
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Natural hazard?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:14:42 AM EST
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Alleged robber-cops become Internet sensation | France 24

Two French policemen were suspended from duty on Tuesday after they were filmed apparently robbing a mobile phone shop in Paris.

The policemen, who belong to the police intelligence services responsible for illegal immigration control, then asked staff to lower the shop's blinds while they went behind the counter and apparently helped themselves to mobile phone top-up cards.

Witnesses said they also took other items from the shop.

When the officers left the premises, staff caught up with them, got hold of one of them and called the police, who turned up and took everyone, including the staff and alleged robber-officers, to a police station.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:57:44 PM EST
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Could the manageress shatter football's grass ceiling? - News & Comment, Football - The Independent
For most international football managers, a 6-2 thrashing at the hands of Germany in a major final would not be considered a career-enhancing result. But for Hope Powell, the coach of the England's women side, it has led to speculation that she could be about to achieve a sporting first: becoming the first female "gaffer" in the men's game.

The England manager, who unlike her male counterparts for the last 43 years was able to lead the national side to a tournament final this summer at the European Championships, was linked to a vacancy at League Two club Grimsby earlier this year after being seen leaving a restaurant with the Mariners' chairman.

Powell, 43, who has been in charge of the national women's team for the last 11 years, dismissed the claims she was about to become the first woman to manage a professional men's side as "lies". But rumours persist that her impressive coaching credentials - underlined by the fact that she is the first woman to hold Uefa's highest managerial qualification - are attracting interest from the professional game.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:58:08 PM EST
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it's an intirguing idea but unlikely to happen. As much as anything Powell more or less has a contract for life, so why should she give that up for the much less reliable world of managment in the football league. Especially as she's unlikely to be offered a contract with a club that will offer her substantially more than she's on now.

frnakly she'd be potty to do it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 05:23:21 PM EST
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China's Ding eyes UK final | France 24

AFP - China's Ding Junhui edged closer to the UK Championship final after building a 5-3 lead over world number two Stephen Maguire in the semi-finals on Friday.

World number 14 Ding won three successive frames after the mid-session interval to move 5-2 ahead before Maguire claimed the final frame of the session to remain in touch.

The best-of-17 clash continues later on Friday, with the winner set to face either Ronnie O'Sullivan or John Higgins in Sunday's final.



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 01:58:31 PM EST
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BBC Sport - Snooker - UK Championship results & schedule

Result: Stephen Maguire (Sco) 5-9 Ding Junhui (Chn)

73-0 9-101 (66) 0-75 (75) 97-31 (97) 5-85 0-83 (83) 6-105 (54) 104-0 (64) 60-47 74-47 0-138 (134) 20-65 18-61 1-69 (69)



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 05:03:49 PM EST
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Saw the last six frames on & off. Was tense. I wonder who'll be the final opponent.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 05:19:13 PM EST
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Well  if Ronnie can keep it together, I wouldnt bet against him

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 05:42:32 PM EST
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He again played primadonna with a referee in the last match (something about not helping in the re-arrangement of balls after a miss), so he may lose it.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:53:35 AM EST
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BBC News - Tiger Woods to take 'indefinite leave' from golf

US golfer Tiger Woods is taking indefinite leave from professional golf to try to work on "healing" his family.

In a statement on his website, he said he was aware of the disappointment "my infidelity" had caused his family.

He said he wanted to "try to repair the damage done" and asked for privacy so his family "could heal".

In the UK, lawyers for the world number one golfer obtained an injunction preventing certain information purportedly about him being published.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 09:17:59 PM EST
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This is the first tabloid story I've taken an interest in since Lady Di and OJ Simpson way back when.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 02:56:29 AM EST
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Is it true he has lost most of his commercial endorsement contracts?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:38:21 AM EST
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Well that dosnt appear to be true, (Although Gillette might have to rethink their advertising strategy having in the last couple of weeks had the misfortune of having Thierry Henri and Tiger Woods as Brand Icons)

Tiger Woods gags British media | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Tiger Woods has won an injunction banning the British media from reporting new details about his personal life after instructing London-based lawyers to take legal action.

The move, described by lawyers as "unbelievable", prevents the media reporting information that was already widely available in the US, prompting further anger about the ability of foreigners to take advantage of strict English laws that would not be available abroad.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:11:27 AM EST
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Tiger Woods learns high cost of lying low | Sport | The Guardian

The agony and ignominy continue for Tiger Woods as the list of alleged mistresses grows longer and the list of friends shorter. "In light of the recent developments surrounding Tiger Woods and his family, I will not pursue legislation awarding him the congressional gold medal this session," declared Joe Baca, a Democratic congressman from the golfer's home state of California.

The golfer has never shown much interest in politics, so he is unlikely to care that his chance of receiving the United States' highest civilian honour has passed. Yet if Woods is indifferent to sensitivities of elected officials, he and his advisers care very much indeed about a multimillion-dollar brand they have built around the talent and persona of a man who over 13 years has become the most recognisable figure in sport.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:16:01 AM EST
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BBC News - Major sponsor Gillette to 'limit' Tiger Woods's role

Gillette has become the first major sponsor of Tiger Woods to distance itself from the golf star after the storm over his private life.

It said it would limit Woods's role in its marketing while the champion took time off to repair his personal life.

The golfer has announced he is taking an indefinite break from professional golf to tackle his problems.

In a statement released on his website, he admitted to "infidelity", after weeks of press speculation



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:20:58 PM EST
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described by lawyers as "unbelievable"

It's unbelievable only to people who haven't been following British news for a while.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 08:01:35 AM EST
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Another reason why England keeps losing on penalties

Psychologists found that when a player lines up to take the spot kick, the more the pressure, the more likely their eyes will be distracted by the keeper.

As the path of the shot tends to follow the eye line, this means that they are more likely to shoot into the centre of the goal, making the goal easier to defend.

Useful advice in many fields.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 04:02:55 AM EST
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Such articles would earn smug smiles from Germany fans...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:57:14 AM EST
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ITN film crew stopped while covering photographer story news - Amateur Photographer - news, camera reviews, lens reviews, camera equipment guides, photography courses, competitions, photography forums
An ITN film crew covering a story about a photographer who was stopped while taking innocent photos in central London were themselves quizzed while filming.

London Tonight reporter Marcus Powell was stopped by police in the City who told him that filming was not allowed.

The incident, yesterday morning, occurred while the crew were attempting to film a piece about Grant Smith who was searched by police after taking pictures for a project on churches 24 hours earlier.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:24:24 AM EST
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You can't make this up... Eurosceptics scared of a Brussels dictate should first clean up their own police state.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 07:58:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
and a week of steve bell follow the blue next arrows

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 08:43:20 AM EST
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It happened to me... albeit that police state was Austria.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 08:59:57 AM EST
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Well the one place we do know is covered by s44 is all railway stations in britain, beyond that these areas which are subject to these powers are not being revealed by the home office.(Thats right these searches can only be carried out in areas declared by someone of the rank of asistant cheif constable or commander, for a specified period of time, but the government wont tell people what those areas are, or how long they remain in force)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 09:20:25 AM EST
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