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by Jerome a Paris
Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 08:21:20 AM EST

Total says oil output near peak

The world will never be able to produce more than 89m barrels a day of oil, the head of Europe’s third largest energy group has warned, citing high costs in areas such as Canada and political restrictions in countries like Iran and Iraq.

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Mr de Margerie warned that the glut of oil caused by the dramatic reduction in demand would be short-lived and that, in spite of the economic crisis, in the long-term demand would remain constrained by supply.

Right now, the price of oil is staying low (relative to the past couple years, anyway) because demand is still shrinking faster than supply. Supply is being reduced because of OPEC production cuts and, more ominously, by a brutal interruption of investment in many places. Thus declining production from mature fields is not going to be replaced in the near future by new production coming online, and any ramp up, when actually needed, could take time to happen and thus lead, again, to higher prices.

An intriguing theory is that such price increases will trigger yet another round of economic downturn and demand reduction, bringing prices down again, thus leading to another drop in investment. We could thus end up in a world of oil prices that never go extremely high (say in the 50-150 range), but nevertheless cause a vicious circle for the economy.

It thus remains vital to focus on energy policy right now - meaning long term demand reduction, energy efficiency, public transport and renewable energy, to move away from the threat of an oil-constrained economy.


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It would seem that de Margerie suggests that the current crisis will cause the peak to be lower:


World oil production potential weakening: Total

LONDON (Reuters) - The oil price collapse has weakened the industry's capacity to increase output and future production may top out at a lower level than earlier expected, the chief executive of major oil company Total (TOTF.PA) said.

Christophe de Margerie said that world oil output may hit a plateau below 90 million barrels per day in the years ahead, less than earlier envisaged.

"The capacity that the oil industry has to go to 93-95 million barrels per day is already over," the CEO of the French oil major told reporters on Friday at a briefing in London.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 08:59:16 AM EST
"Intriguing theory"

I'm not sure that's the word I'd pick.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 09:14:34 AM EST


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 09:57:35 AM EST
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"possible scenario"

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 10:03:32 AM EST
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"Possible nightmare scenario"?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 10:05:56 AM EST
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odds-on clusterfuck?

every morning when i wake up, my first thoughts are how will the rest of the planet convince the us giant to climb down off its throne without breaking any more furniture, whether the huge new numbers of unemployed people will start to get creative serving each other to earn their mess of pottage, or bang pots and pans in the street till the grabberment changes, whether the climate finally flipped somewhere to the point of crushing any idealogical opposition to the concept of carbon containment, if the terrists have struck again, or what brangelina are up to...

no, no, no...

top of the front page is that we taxpayers are buying more chips for gamblers' anonymous!

yes we can deal with it all, come up with bright new ideas, share them, combine thought power with technology and push a wave of respect and understanding across the planet.

or shoot me now, i'm the lump under the covers...  

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 01:29:17 PM EST
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Terrifying? I can just imagine the politicians totally failing to spot the pattern and giving a big sigh of relief everytime the oil price dropped: "Don't need to change anything now!".
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 10:06:04 AM EST
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then we're in agreement

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 10:43:27 AM EST
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Wait, we're already past the peak and civilisation hasn't collapsed yet?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 09:20:58 AM EST
Apparently it has.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 09:39:05 AM EST
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Where is Mad Max?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 09:52:01 AM EST
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He's the CEO of a large bank.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 09:59:56 AM EST
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look behind you!

i heard he started a blog and then flamed out.

or ran out of gas for his toys...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 01:33:22 PM EST
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... that'd be when we are on the steepest part of the downward slope, not when we are still up here on the plateau.

Except, of course, for those economies that get themselves positioned to be able to kick oil before the steepest part of the downward slope kicks in.

Utsukushikereba sore de ii

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 01:45:30 PM EST
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