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I just discovered Booman Tribune (duuuuh!)  Is it the American version of ET?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 11:46:20 AM EST
Some of us were there first before we came here. Bootrib was the model for ET in many ways - especially the civility and occasional quirkiness.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 11:53:31 AM EST
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But is it ET for the US or what?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 11:58:27 AM EST
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I wouldn't call it that, no.

It's more a loose affiliation, and originally a shared server (I'm not sure if we have our own now or are still running on Booman's server).

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:00:41 PM EST
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Booman and Jerome set up something called "the Tribune Group" together and they created two 'sister sites' sharing a server, and cross-linking to each other's front pages (as you have found out). That was 4 years ago.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:03:27 PM EST
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Bootrib was a spin-off of Daily Kos.  I believe they had "issues" with Markos or something.  ET was a spin-off of Daily Kos.  I believe Jerome just wanted to try his hand at European version.  BooTrib and ET have shared the same server, for some reason.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:04:31 PM EST
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You mean, ET was a spinoff of BooTrib.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:11:19 PM EST
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No.  I mean, Jerome was at Daily Kos, was impressed by it, and was inspired to do a European progressive political scoop-style blog.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:15:51 PM EST
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Well, the mythology will probably build, but perhaps some might remember that The (pompous) Welshman was involved. Dkos was the inspiration, true, and Booman was a spin-off into a subset of DKos - but  still US focused. The European version was originally conceived by Booman, J, the Welshman and others, but the W broke ranks and set up his own. Thank Blog!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:37:06 PM EST
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Who would this pompous W'man be? This one?.

(Not me, anyway, I filled in the vacant pompous W'man slot later).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:47:32 PM EST
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As I recall, he was a (barrack room) lawyer, and had a dog. I have the impression of an unlit pipe in his hands, but I may be wrong. He feigned advanced avunculism, and was reasonably intelligent, though lacking in humour. It was only the dog that really listened to him...

He played a nasty trick on me, and I believe that is par for his course.

I am not sure that he was Welsh - more of an immigrant. Any road, I have liked all the real Welshmen I have ever met ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 04:18:30 PM EST
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Sssh (did you follow the link?)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 04:36:50 PM EST
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The comment was typical of #10. Perhaps he was the Prisoner of Portmeirion?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 04:57:44 PM EST
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Tsiisus! has it really been 4 years?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 05:10:28 PM EST
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Time flies when you're having fun. Mind you I missed the start, joining early in 2006.

I remember W.... from the blog he started up, supposedly in competition with ET, which I joined before I came here. It never really took off mostly cos it just wasn't that interesting.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 05:17:57 PM EST
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Yes, I was also there at whatever it was called. Amazing how you push bad stuff out of your mind.

But ET is now part of my life, and I bet that is so for many other commenters. It is sometimes difficult to fit in to a busy schedule on a daily basis, as you have discovered, but whenever I'm away or offline for a couple of days I wonder what is happening in the neuron mines of ETstan  ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Apr 17th, 2009 at 08:25:07 AM EST
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We used to post there in another life. I was rom wyo.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:02:01 PM EST
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Well hell, I've got too much assholiness for just one site.  I'll spread my largess (no, not large ass. I heard you) there too.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:08:12 PM EST
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(You said so once before but) this still kind of surprises me because I remember rom wyo and can't twig to the common vibe between you (though if I went back and searched rom wyo posts I'd probably get it). But it's as if a classy nick like de Gondi rubs off on the feel of your comments (blogger marketing Lesson 1; note to self: drop afew).

rom wyo was mysterious though. (F)rom Wyo(ming)?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:32:11 PM EST
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Or "Rome, Wyoming."
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:35:06 PM EST
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The ELDR has posted a letter defending the common market in reply to some PES letter. Twittering eurobloggers do not like the train bit. Here's a quote (with apologies to DoDo for causing pain with The Stupid):
Successful cross border projects such as the Thalys or the Eurostar project have served the European consumers while German state-owned railway services become constantly more expensive. If you compare the market services with state services you will easily find out that the forces of markets satisfy the demands of citizens much better and create growth, jobs and opportunities.  States can guarantee rules but do not create wealth and jobs.

... this is the campaign we get.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:20:40 PM EST
OOOOooo....

<depression>

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:34:37 PM EST
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You know, the health care section is also annoying to me
Socialists regard patients as recipients; Liberals regard patients as consumers who demand the best possible service.
Patients are not consumers of health care. Where they are, as in the US, you get Massive Fail™.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:34:39 PM EST
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Much of the letter is rather stupid market fundamentalist dogma ('government can't create wealth or jobs'). Not all ELDR parties are that far gone, but obviously the fundies are there at the European level.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:53:51 PM EST
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Is the PES letter full of dog-whistles, too?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:10:09 PM EST
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<head explodes>

BTW, GermanRailways DB got a new head. He is an ah so able and railway-educated manager from... EADS.

<brain tissue cluster bomb explodes>

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:15:06 PM EST
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BTW, the Stupid may be clear for most here, but not all, so let's make it explicit:

  • Thalys is a joint project of state railways
  • Eurostar is in part a subsidiary of SNCF, a state railway; and benefits from externalised costs in track: the more or less in-budget state-built LGV Nord in France and the connected section in Belgium, the very expensive PPP-built High Speed 1 in Britain, and the privately built, financial mess Channel Tunnel in-between...
  • DB services suffer for 20 years now under the strain of inept attempts to make the company stock market ready, under changing private sector managers from non-rail sectors imposed by market-fundamentalist thinking governments

So, hardly any evidence of private operator efficiency.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:24:59 PM EST
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Thalys: Thalys : corporate

Trading name :
THALYS INTERNATIONAL

Statute :
Belgian limited liability cooperative

...

Thalys International's capital is divided up as follows :

62% held by the SNCF, 28% held by the SNCB and 10% held by the DB.

Ownership & Structure

  • Eurostar was owned, when launched, by SNCF, SNCB and British Rail. Prior to the UK rail privatisation, a subsidiary, European Passenger Services (EPS), was created which included British Rail's interest in Eurostar. In June 1996, this was sold to London & Continental Railways (LCR). In October 1996, LCR changed the name to Eurostar UK Ltd (EUKL).
  • EUKL, SNCF and SNCB are each responsible for the running of Eurostar services on their own territory.
  • In 1998, LCR awarded to InterCapital and Regional Rail Ltd (ICRR) a management contract to manage EUKL until 2010. ICRR is a consortium comprising the National Express Group (40% shareholding), SNCF (35% shareholding) SNCB (15% shareholding) and British Airways (10% shareholding). BA is a sleeping partner.

Take that: even the majority of the British operating company is held by two (non-British) state railways...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:33:32 PM EST
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...and Other Oxymorons"
by rifek on Tue Apr 21st, 2009 at 04:09:18 PM EST
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Dear Mr. Nyrup Rasmussen, dear European Socialists, Thank you for your letter. You are surprised about our commitment to the Single Market. You should not be. Liberals believe that Europeans benefit from the Single Market. It gives European consumers more choice and better products. It gives European companies opportunities to grow and create jobs.

Do you believe that Denmark would be better off without the opportunities it offers? Would Danish consumers want to live without French cheese, Italian shoes, German technology or Finnish phones? Do you believe Danish companies would want to stop exporting their goods to the rest of Europe, thus risking their employees' jobs - just as China and the US are willing to risk their employees' jobs by refusing to trade with countries inside the EU, because they're not on the same continent?

The Single Market is not an end in itself for Liberals, but rather serves as the most efficient means to meet the citizens' demands for cheese, shoes, technology of a vague but doubtless impressive nature, and phones. And more cheese.  

We believe in a universal service obligation and we are proud of our commitment to open postal services. Do you really want to go back to a world of postal monopolies? Don't you remember the twice-daily deliveries? The pitifully low prices for letter post? The universal commitment to provide deliveries to everyone equally, no matter how inconvenient or unprofitable?

Competition forces monopolies to give better service to their users, creates more choice and lower prices and benefits society in general by "increasing the overall cake" to be shared amongst all.

Did state monopolies ever deliver better outcomes to consumers? No!

This is why we want to replace them with giant private monopolies.

Public health care systems all over the EU have shown to be falling short of patients' demands. Socialists regard patients as ill people who need help and kindness; Liberals regard patients as sharp consumers who are canny in planning the best value-exchange transaction for themselves that they can afford.

Patients want treatment, and competition will lead to better health coverage for all Europeans, just as it has in the US, where one third of the population cannot afford basic health care.

12 years of Thatcherite free market pseudo-socialism in the UK did not - against all reasonable expectations - help to remedy the failures of the British National Health Service. Aren't the months-long waiting lists for a surgery the best arguments to open up borders for treatment - especially for the British, who will then have easy to access to socialised health care across the channel in France?

Successful state-sponsored cross border projects such as the Thalys or the Eurostar project have served the European consumers while German state-owned railway services become constantly more expensive. If you compare the market services with state services you will easily find out that the forces of markets satisfy the demands of citizens much better and create growth, jobs and opportunities - especially in the UK where privatised rail now demands twice the subsidy that nationalised rail did, runs far less reliably, and has inflated travel prices beyond all reasonable expectation.

States can guarantee rules but do not create wealth and jobs. They certainly didn't create jobs or wealth during the great depression, or during various state financed and managed prestige projects like the Moon landings, the development of supersonic air travel, the building of much of Europe's motorway network, or even the creation of the EU itself, which remains, all too tragically, state sponsored and not privately owned and managed.

The Manifesto of European Liberal Democrats leaves no room for doubt that we remain committed to believing nonsense about markets because we really have absolutely no idea what we're talking about, and we've convinced ourselves that ignorantly parroting slogans in the face of all historical evidence is enough to persuade people to take us seriously.

While progressives live off compassion, hope and not too much doom porn, Liberals live off gullibility, fuzzy wishful thinking, and a vague but rather silly sense of self-righteousness.

Others work - we natter.

There - better now.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 02:05:52 PM EST
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This is to good to remain a comment!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:04:30 PM EST
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Diary!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:36:05 PM EST
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heh, a work of art, TBG.

i had the biggest smile reading that...

right now i'm drooling over the thought that a political party would ever get to putting out such a deeply hilarious manifesto.

there's always screamin' lord sutch i guess.

FIRE!!!!

remember arthur brown?

still chuckling, move over Private Eye you got it comin'

priceless, ruddy priceless, ROFLMAO

deserves wider readership, i'm thinking piccadilly circus, front page of the evening standard, for a start...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 07:06:58 PM EST
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I missed seeing Arthur brown down to a particularly surly doorman on an Aberystwyth pub, who wouldn't give anyone a message (It was more than his jobs worth) to get the person out who had the money that was meant to pay for my ticket.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 09:42:58 PM EST
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Savage, and every word of it true.
by rifek on Tue Apr 21st, 2009 at 04:13:23 PM EST
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His Supreme Eminence, Poffarbacco, just declared that had he not set the referendum for another date other than the European elections, the Lega Nord would have pulled out their support for His Most Benevolent Grovelment.

The referendum which was accepted by the Court must be voted on by June 15th. In order to be valid 50% plus one citizens must vote. The referendum is called to abrogate certain articles of the present Italian electoral law, known as the Porcellum, so as to render it slightly more acceptable to civilization.

However, the racist Lega Nord- largely responsible for writing the law in the first place- would be the big loser were the abrogative referendum to pass.

It goes without saying that the referendum would pass by an overwhelming majority.

The only way to stop it is to postpone it to another date other than the European elections, as well as local runner-up administrative elections, to discourage citizens from once again going to voting.

In order to postpone it, a decree will be promulgated by Poffarbacco in Person which will fix referendum voting on the 21st of June- just as school gets out and the brainless masses hit the beaches.

Were the referendum to be voted together with European elections and the administrative elections it is alleged that the state would save 400 million euros which would go better to the earthquake emergency. The Lega Nord has contested this sum, alleging that a separate election would only cost about 180 million euros.

Italian earthquakes "cost" from 15 to 40 billion euros over time. As of now, no more than a 100 million has been earmarked as emergency funds.

State coffers are dry.

If the referendum costs so much, it's the fault of those asshole citizens who wanted it in the first place.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:29:22 PM EST
There are three blogs I read every day.  Like a lot of other folks, I stumbled onto DKos soon after the 2004 election.  I was pretty new to this whole blogging thing, and I just wanted to find somebody to hang out with who felt like I did about the prospect of another four years of the Cheney administration.

After I had lurked there for a while I started noticing some guy named BooMan23 who would show up every once in a while and write these really good, really interesting diaries about politics.  I eventually followed one of the links to his blog and found a home.  Like DKos, only better.  Where DK is like a perpetual political rally, where everybody is primed for a fight most the time, BT was more like a gathering at the Student Union where folks like to hang out together and discuss things rather than always trying to win an argument.

Around the same time, some French guy named Jerome started writing really good diaries about wind power on DKos and sometimes on BooTrib.  I hadn't been on BT very long when I heard that Jerome was trying to put together a new blog with a European focus.  I thought that might be interesting, so I signed up soon after it started.  And found another home.  Like BooTrib, only global.


Somewhere in cyberspace, the ghost of de Chardin is smiling.

by budr on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 12:33:32 PM EST
poemless on May 8, 2008:

Promoting American cultural hegemony, a primary tenet of which is that everyone must dress as slovenly as possible...

 In Catholic school I was taught that dressing like a bum, unless you are one, and even then you should were your best clothes, if you have any, is a signifier of disrespect for God, who created us, and why can't we return the favor by wearing something that compliments our beautiful human form?  I don't know about the God bit, but I agree with the rest.   Is there not a connection between our outward appearance and human dignity?

George Will on April 16, 2009:

Denim is the carefully calculated costume of people eager to communicate indifference to appearances. But the appearances that people choose to present in public are cues from which we make inferences about their maturity and respect for those to whom they are presenting themselves.
by Magnifico on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:04:16 PM EST
Shorter George Will: people in denim are unserious.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:15:43 PM EST
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Hm.  Now you'd think George and I are saying the same thing... (!!! Gah!  First Wolfe and now Will?  Gah!)  But, I have a closet full of dresses and skirts and blazers and ... well, I have a lot of clothes that are dressy by American standards.  But I never feel more serious than when I am in a black turtleneck and jeans.  Mind you, I wear nice shoes with this ensemble!  (Exception: Due to an injury I've recently been forced into Merrells - and I am NOT happy about this...)  But I feel I project a very serious image in a black turtleneck and jeans.  Especially if I am smoking and wearing sunglasses.  And am reading Foucault.  I scream "I am more serious than you!  There is not a humorous or apathetic bone in my body!  Just walking past me will expose you to my serious cooties!"

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:34:58 PM EST
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I feel I project a very serious image in a black turtleneck and jeans.  Especially if I am smoking and wearing sunglasses.

Add a purple or black beret and you'd be a Hep Cat®, circa 5 BE (Beatnik Era.)

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 02:35:13 PM EST
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Actually, I do wear a black beret when it is cold, which it is 9 months of the year here.

I've been dressing like a beatnik since I was 12.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 02:45:26 PM EST
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Have you seen the best minds of your generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix, angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night, who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating jazz?

If so, was that pancakes you could believe in?

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:03:29 PM EST
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"The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars..."

    Jack Kerouac, On The Road, 1957

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:15:02 PM EST
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When can I go into the supermarket and buy what I need with my good looks?

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:35:55 PM EST
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I started wearing shades as a cameraman, because the amount of light you got through the 'finder, made it difficult to adjust from sunlight to dim optics. Shades keep your pupils dilated and is less damaging than meth.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 02:57:23 PM EST
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It's very good for the eyes - uv protection.  

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:00:22 PM EST
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I can't get on with shades at all. They don't suit me for a start but I really find it hard to adjust to wearing them.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:11:27 PM EST
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Not even in sunny Italy?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:18:13 PM EST
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No. I have owned them but end up not wearing them even in the middle of summer in really hot and sunny places.  I don't think I had a pair when I was in Thailand.  I'm incapable of being stylish with accessories and shoes too, which doesn't help.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:42:05 PM EST
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Well, is there any sun in Wales?

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:36:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You'd be surprised!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:42:22 PM EST
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Yes, it is generally surprising.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:52:19 PM EST
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ah but you're all spoiled so don't apreciate it properly when you get it.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 09:46:35 PM EST
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I have trouble functioning without sunglasses.  My eyes are so extremely photosensitive that I find it painful to not wear them when it's really bright.  My eyes just squeeze shut, nothing I can do about it.  About 10 years ago I started investing in really nice sunglasses with high-quality polarized lenses, and training myself to take good enough care of them to justify the expense, because I decided I just can't take chances with my eyes....
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 07:01:18 PM EST
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So how come you ended up working where you did? I would have thought somewhere with a tendancy for lack of sun rising for 6 months a year would have been more your scene.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 09:48:22 PM EST
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I have a polaroid prescription pair that I always use for driving even in winter if it is sunny, and especially if there is clean white blinding snow. All that low Finnish sun can be painful, if you are going toward it.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:28:30 PM EST
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Do you want to put me into a suit? Or will a toga do?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:17:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I suspect he'd prefer military uniform - you as private, him as general.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:31:32 PM EST
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Will a Venezuelan uniform do?...

Now that was George Will, what about poemless?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:38:26 PM EST
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I'd like you to dress like Mickey Rourke at the Oscars.

Thanks.

Anyone else?  OMG, I feel like a little girl, playing dressup with ETers, instead of dolls.  Creepy.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 02:00:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
How about dressing more like a crazed, bearded Joaquin Phoenix?

by Magnifico on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:23:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
More like it...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 04:59:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
italians just don't get shabby chic...

but they don't get flabby cheek either, so it breaks even...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 07:13:43 PM EST
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Dear George,

This, coming from a guy who dresses like an Englishman in his pajamas (striped-everything), is pretty rich.  Two plain, one fancy, or you've no right to lecture people on fashion.  You're also one of, sadly, many who apparently don't understand that no one with a head so large should ever wear a straight collar.  You look like Mr Met, for fuck's sake.  Buy some proper spread collars.

And when you're not doing all that, you're wearing a bow tie -- something that should only be worn by circus clowns and children below the age of six.

Regards,

Drew J Jones

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:38:02 PM EST
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Well, I'm flattered you think such a brilliant mind would get his ideas from me.  I mean, I assume you think he is a brilliant mind.  I assume you'd never compare me to George Will knowing his true nature.  

But I was actually making a totally different argument.  I was arguing that one should dress well, and by well, I mean in ways that flatter and accentuate and celebrate one's beauty, inner and outer, for oneself, in order to assert one's inherent human dignity.  I was not arguing that you should dress to impress others, to impress George Will, for example, or to assert your maturity or responsibility, which are subjectively measured by the very structures that wish to strip you of your dignity so as to make you a more functional cog in the machine.  Maturity and Responsibility are the stuff of well-oiled cogs, my friend.  Jeans, denims tends to catch and tear on the machinery.  Slows it down and lowers productivity.  And THEY don't want that.  So, listen to me.  Carefully.  WEAR JEANS!  Not the baggy stone-washed kind or the kind that pushes your belly fat to the wrong places.  Wear sexy well-made jeans.  And wear them with nice shoes.  

And never,  Ever, compare me to George Will again.

:D


"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:49:33 PM EST
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Meh. I'm not comparing you to Will.

I'm saying Will ripped off your argument and with such a derivative, it is shallow compared to your original brilliance. He turned it into a grumpy old man version, not a call for sophistication and counterculture.

And no, Will is not brilliant. In fact, I think he's a turd and he should have stuck to writing about baseball and even that writing was lame.

by Magnifico on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:18:44 PM EST
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Julian Cope Presents Head Heritage | Address Drudion
Sorry I'm a day late with this Drudion, but I was in London yesterday at the G20 anti-Kapitalist protests that focused on the Bank of England. Unfortunately, I totally fucked up my plans through sheer yokel paranoia and came away empty handed. Intending to meet up with my dear friends, the writer Gyrus and U-Know editor Merrick, at Liverpool Street Station, at 10.30am, I left our W. Country home at 6am and was in central London just before nine. Nervous that there would be thousands of people milling about, I arrived on foot at Liverpool Street a full hour early, to be confronted by hundreds of police already in place. Of course, I was dressed extremely dodgily, with my hair up in a black wig and dressed in the kind of all-purpose rural chic that couldn't have been further from my regular Rock God image (!). The police, however, were so fucking paranoid that they conducted a Stop & Search on me at the top of the escalators at 10.20; a full 40 minutes before the march had even started.

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But what got me most was how the police discovered all of my gear but still didn't realize I was wearing a 99p black eBay wig! On the Stop & Search report I'm even described as having `Hair: black, short.' I can't show you my face on the self-portrait I took as I plan to use this disguise again in the future, but Holy McGrail referred to it as Scargill Chic and pointed out that there are clearly blonde tufts visible from underneath the rug. If McGrail could suss it from the crappy mobile phone photo (shown above), then so much for the West's so-called War on Terror. What the fuck!



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 01:56:56 PM EST
In Mumbai, utterly exhausted from the stress of learning and dealing with a new culture. Luckily I'm not finding it to be radically different from SE Asia (at least in terms of everyday travel challenges).

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 02:01:34 PM EST
AP via google: Suicide bomber strikes Iraqi military base
A suicide bomber struck an Iraqi military base Thursday in an attack that Iraqi officials first said killed 16 soldiers but later maintained no one died but the attacker.

The conflicting death counts came at a time when Iraqi officials are under increasing pressure to stop attacks. Last week, angry Iraqis in Baghdad hurled stones at police and soldiers because they failed to stop a car bombing.

The suicide attacker wore an Iraqi military uniform in Thursday's bombing -- the fourth major attack on Iraqi security forces in a week. That raised troubling questions about insurgents' ability to infiltrate the country's armed forces or to receive help from inside their ranks.



Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 02:47:55 PM EST
There are so many weird things about that bombing, I can't figure it out at all.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 07:01:59 PM EST
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Such as?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 17th, 2009 at 04:03:40 AM EST
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Can China Catch a Cool Breeze?

On a range of seaside mountains between Shenzhen and Hong Kong, two visions of China's future development stand side by side. The slope of the mountains is busy with construction workers building roads and swank modern trophy homes, each with a two-car garage. The valley below is carpeted with acres of bright green chemical-fed golf courses, their sand traps winking up in playful floral patterns. This is the future as California-style, auto-based sprawl.

On the ridgeline above this stands the other vision: four tall wind turbines face the South China Sea, receiving the steady ocean breeze. The turbines of the Da Mei Sha wind farm are part of the country's rapidly rising renewable energy sector. This small wind farm represents an alternate future: that of China as a green technology giant.

The People's Republic of China faces two problems that could be addressed with one solution.

Windpower in China.  I think that the rest of the planet is starting to go through that same takeoff that Germany, Denmark, and Spain went through 10+ years ago.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Apr 16th, 2009 at 03:13:40 PM EST


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