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EU Elections - June 8th Results

by Nomad Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 06:02:45 AM EST

 EUROPEAN ELECTIONS 

Update [2009-6-9 6:2:45 by DoDo]: The charts now include the complete inofficial results from all countries. Note that the size of EP factions is still subjet to change:

  • the ID (18 MEP-elects) now looks to be below the 25 seat limit, thus poised for dissolution;
  • UEN (32 MEP-elects) may fall below the threshold too, with further departures (in particular the 15 of PiS from Poland may join the EC);
  • though Euronat parties collected only 17 MEP-elects, they may yet manage to cobble together a far-right faction with UEN and ID dropouts;
  • the Italian Democratic Party (22 MEP-elects) is to decide whether they accept the offer of joining the PES faction in a looser alliance;
  • Some other Non-Inscrits will decide on joining factions (f.e. Sweden's Pirate Party will decide for ALDE or Greens-EFA).

Breakdown of seats per country below the fold.


First a breakdown of the factions:

The result of national elections, in EP colours:

(NOTE: these percentages are for seats, not voters!)

You can click on the date to jump immediately to the appropriate section.

June 4 - The Netherlands, United Kingdom (97 seats)

June 5 - Ireland (12 seats)

June 6 - Cyprus, Latvia, Malta, Slovakia, Czech Republic (56 seats)

June 7 - Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Germany, Denmark, Spain, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Sweden (571 seats)

Display:
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:07:57 AM EST
on the NL results

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:06:34 PM EST
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Tangential: a great post from the Dutch Green Party leader.
by Plutonium Page (page dot vlinders at gmail dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:01:41 PM EST
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ha Femke Halsema. I am a big fan of her. hadn´t seen this. Thanks.
by marsanges on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:47:41 PM EST
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I'm watching BBC online.  Unofficial exit polls show centre-right have gained, and a 43% voter turnout.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:27:25 PM EST
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Ugh, if Spain's turnout drops below the UK's it's going to be embarrassing...

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:34:33 PM EST
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Sigh, you Yurpians and your low turnout. ;)

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:37:38 PM EST
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well a reporter in the Eastern area was saying that there is a slim chance that Labour will lose a seat in that region to the Greens, but as the count has gone on the chance has somewhat receded.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:36:54 PM EST
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How is this for a headline?

BBC news: EU nations await huge vote result

The results of the largest election in the history of the European Union are due within an hour, as voting draws to a close after four days.

Nineteen EU countries voted on Sunday, with eight others having voted in the past few days.

All 736 parliament seats are up for grabs. Provisional figures suggest the lowest turnout on record, at 43.01%.



The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:41:42 PM EST
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First results from BBC:
LAB 25.0%(-9.1%) 1 seat
CON 19.8%(+1.2%) 1 seat
LD  17.6%(-0.2%) 1 seat
I don't know which constituency that is for.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:56:16 PM EST
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UKIP 4th at 15.4%(+3.2%)

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:56:55 PM EST
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BNP at 8.9% (+2.5%)

And this isn't even their strongest region, is it?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:03:55 PM EST
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North-East.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:59:42 PM EST
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From BBC:
Conservative	      500,331 votes 31.2% (+0.4%) 3 seats
UK Independence Party 313,921 votes 19.6% (+0.0%) 2 seats
Liberal Democrats     221,235 votes 13.8% (-0.2%) 1 seat
Labour		      167,833 votes 10.5% (-5.8%) 1 seat
Greens 5th with 8.8%.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:15:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | World | Europe | LIVE - European election results
Labour rebels are saying that if the party gets less than 20% of the vote, that will be the trigger for a leadership challenge.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:55:55 PM EST
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What rebels? Left or Blairites?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:56:53 PM EST
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Just to acknowledge, Nomad and DoDo have been putting days into preparing this whole thread - so TIPS to Nomad and DoDo!!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:13:06 PM EST
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Not to forget Sassafras, who created the banners for the sections.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:14:43 PM EST
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Yes indeed! Thank you Sassafras too!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:47:36 PM EST
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Yes, those look excellent.  Well done to all.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:05:37 PM EST
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Absolutely amazing job.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:48:34 PM EST
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well the observer had a poll today of Labour MPs that said 60% wanted Blair Back

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:25:21 PM EST
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Er. Okay.

[Labour.Is.Doomed.]

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:54:27 PM EST
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Yeah, pretty much.  Really, it's tough to imagine a much worse result.  I suppose they could've lost to the Lib-Dems, too, but beating the Lib-Dems is nothing to be proud of.

I'm still shocked the BNP wound up carrying two seats.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 09:18:30 PM EST
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BBC2 coverage obsessed with UK political situation and future of Gordon Brown.

You wouldn't know these were European elections.

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:15:34 PM EST
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I know :(
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:18:07 PM EST
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If the BBC's correspondent on the liveblog over there is to be believed, that's it then:

2235Professor John Curtice of Strathclyde University says: On the results declared so far, there is one clear story - Labour's vote is well down on 2004 and it seems highly likely that they will get considerably less than 20% of the vote. They are in a tight battle with UKIP in order to obtain second place. Meanwhile, the Conservatives are struggling to maintain their share of the vote last time, while we still cannot rule out the possibility of the BNP winning a seat.


Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:36:58 PM EST
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Word is that Labour are likely to be third in Wales with the 4th seat fighting out between Labour, Plaid Cymru and UKIP.   UKIP. What stupid people do I share my country with?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:15:18 PM EST
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Further word is that UKIP is taking lots of votes from the BNP

but then I did hear UKIP described as the BNP with twelve years of public school.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:27:11 PM EST
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Just heard one result and the BNP appear only to have increased their vote very slightly.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:48:01 PM EST
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Labours "See we didn't do that bad really" prediction is for one seat per region, apart from Scotland where they get two.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:56:54 PM EST
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on the radio BBC predicting a Tory win In Wales, Plaid vote a disaster, so UKIP might pick up a welsh seat!!

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:58:23 PM EST
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I'm glad I opened the wine an hour ago.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:03:40 PM EST
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My constituency

CARDIFF SOUTH & PENARTH RESULT +++ Con 4324, Labour 4187, LD 2654, PC 2187, UKIP 2174, Green 1321, BNP 1093

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:05:54 PM EST
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Cardiff North: Con 8179, Lab 4205, UKIP 2865, LD 2475, Plaid 2459, Green 1690, BNP 1010

Surprised that Plaid have polled so low.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:06:03 PM EST
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From my friend's facebook status

WELSH SEATS RECAP: CARDIFF SOUTH - CON :: CARDIFF WEST -LAB :: CARDIFF NORTH - CON :: CARDIFF CENTRAL - LIBDEM :: MONTGOMERYHSIRE - CON :: Plaid not polling well outside of heartlines. UKIP doing very well. LibDems challenging Labour in Swansea, but losing ground across much of Wales

so 2 x con, 1 x lab and 1 x lib dem in Wales.  Awful.  For Wales to vote conservative on this scale is bloody awful.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:10:37 PM EST
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Peter Hain is trying to claim on the radio that the Tories are having a night of failure and should be doing much better than they have done.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:13:28 PM EST
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Some Labour spokesperson in Leicester was trying to tell the BBC that Labour are doing well...  uh, hello?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:16:05 PM EST
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Keith Vaz, Leicester might be a bit unusual, large asian population, and a good percentage Hindu voters, so it might buck external trends.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:18:49 PM EST
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They said Labour had held up in Leicester, UKIP collapsed.

Large Asian population motivated to vote against the likes of the BNP and UKIP?

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:24:37 PM EST
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Is this Asian as in China/Japan/Thailand or the British variety of Asian as in Arabs?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 10:18:08 PM EST
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The "British variety of Asians" are not Arabs but South Asian (Indian and Pakistani).

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 01:18:34 AM EST
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BBC reporting that Hull has seen Labour come in 2nd - home of John Prescott

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:20:09 PM EST
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Saw that.  Alistair Darling, too, right?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:22:53 PM EST
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I heard earlier that in his seat Labour was knocked back to third place, but not seen any solid figures.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:26:19 PM EST
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Yeah, can't remember where I'd read it now.  Meh, I'm sure it'll pop back up if the results do show it.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:42:22 PM EST
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BBC reporting that Labour vote is up in Leicester.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:30:19 PM EST
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LAB SEATS: CAERPHILLY, CARDIFF WEST, ISLWYN. LIB DEM: CARDIFF CENTRAL, SWANSEA WEST. TORIES: CARDIFF NORTH, CARDIFF SOUTH, MONTGOMERYSHIRE.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:26:07 PM EST
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BBC online shows that none of the 4 Welsh seats have been declared yet. But 3 of the UK seats have (going to Lab, Cons and lib dem).
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:27:44 PM EST
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BBC News | Labour down 9% in first results

Labour has won the most votes in the North-East of England at the European Elections, but its share of the vote is down 9% on 2004.

It comes as Labour braces itself for what Welsh Secretary Peter Hain predicts will be a "terrible" night.

If the 9% decline in votes is repeated elsewhere, it will add to the pressure on Gordon Brown who has vowed to stay in office despite calls to go.

Counting of votes is nearing completion with more results expected shortly.

Speaking to the BBC earlier the Labour former minister Nick Raynsford said the county council elections had been "disastrous" and he expected the European elections to be "even worse".

On the basis of the limited number of council declarations so far, the Conservative vote will be down a little, UKIP will be up, Labour will slip into third place and may be struggling to hold that against the Lib Dems whose vote seems to be holding up

If 20% is the make-or-break for Brown, it's over tonight.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:00:17 PM EST
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BBC: UKIP 'strong gains' (Mark Mardell's EuroBlog, 7 June 2009)
There are rumours sweeping the parliament - and I stress only rumours at this stage - that eurosceptic UKIP has done stunningly well. One suggestion is that they have come second, with 18 seats. If true, Mr Farage will have a very big smile on his face tonight.
That's 25% of the seats for the UKIP, and a few more for the Tories. With well over 50% of the seats going to Eurosceptic parties (Cameron wants to take the Tories out of the EPP), and with an impending Tory government less than a year away, will the UK leave the EU?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:06:44 PM EST
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Tories say the BNP has won the sixth seat in Yorkshire.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:59:10 PM EST
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Rumours of BNP gain in Yorkshire.

Conservatives first, UKIP second.  BNP may have sixth seat,

Former Conservative leader William Hague says major political mistake.

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:59:28 PM EST
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In Eastern: 3 Tories, 2 UKIP, 1 Lib-Dem, 1 Labour.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:11:16 PM EST
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You beat me to it. Darn!

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:17:15 PM EST
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No change in seats, and little change in the popular vote for the big parties, except for Labour (-6%).  Brown's still fucked by the looks of it.

Your boy Charles Kennedy's going to be on BBC America after the break.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:20:26 PM EST
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Greens were up by 3%, which was unexpected, came within .2% of gaining a seat

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:14:06 PM EST
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Eastern region UK

Conservatives 500,000+
LD 221,000
Libertas 9000
Green 141000
Labour 167000
UKIP 313921

Conservatives 3
UKIP 2
Lib Dem 1
Lab 1

Labour 6% down, MEPs unchanged

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:10:47 PM EST
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Table just flashed up by BBC puts Labour's share of national vote at 14%
by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:21:00 PM EST
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That's from 25% in North-East and 10% in East... Hardly significant.

But I wonder if Labour could come third in the next General Election...

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:24:07 PM EST
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That's actually about right for a 9% swing, if I'm not mistaken.  I think Labour carried about 23% last go-round.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:25:47 PM EST
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well maybe in popular vote, but in seats it just isn't going to happen, unless the Labour vote collapses to about half of what it is now.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:15:31 PM EST
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Leeds:

2 Con
1 Lab
1 UKIP
1 Lib-Dem
1 BNP

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:28:23 PM EST
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Sorry, not Leeds but Yorkshire and Humber.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:29:00 PM EST
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Yorkshire and Humber

Cons 299802
Lab 230009
Lib Dem 161552
Green 104456
UKIP 213750
BNP  120139

(BNP vote in Barnsley fallen from 17% to 15%)

Cons 2

Lab 1

UKIP 1

Lib Dem 1

BNP 1

Hell,

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:28:37 PM EST
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Labour's vote now at 14.4% (-9.5%)

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:30:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Wales-official

Lab 1

Con 1

Plaid Cymru 1

UKIP 1

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:46:36 PM EST
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Labour at 16.7% nationally (-8.9%). Lost one MEP each to UKIP and BNP so far.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:48:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Could you do a summary for the UK?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:55:36 PM EST
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Conservative 7

Labour 4

UKIP 4

Lib Dem 4

Plaid Cymru (Welsh Nationalists) 1

BNP (far right) 1

56 seats left to declare

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:14:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry...52 seats
by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:24:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
East Midlands

Conservatives 2
Labour 1
Lib Dem 1
UKIP 1
 

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:53:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Summary so far:

Con 12
Lab 7
Lib Dem 6
UKIP 6
Green 1
Plaid Cymru 1
BNP 1

38 seats left to declare

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:58:41 PM EST
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I used your projection. It misses 3 seats -- what's that, North Ireland?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:02:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It's the BBC projection.  They keep missing low numbers off all their figures.
by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:12:59 PM EST
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Both Scotland and NI results not expected tonight.
by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:39:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Summary so far:

Conservatives 19
UKIP 10
Labour 8
Lib Dem 8
Green 2
Plaid Cymru 1
BNP 1

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:43:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
23 seats still undeclared
by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:44:34 PM EST
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The Tories have won the popular vote in Wales for the first time since 1918, apparently.

1 Con
1 Lab (-1)
1 Lib-Dem
1 UKIP (+1)

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:46:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Nick Griffin of BNP says North West result too close to call
by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:58:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Is there a better place to get results than the BBC website?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:01:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ maybe

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:03:24 PM EST
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Projection for the popular vote:

Tories 27
UKIP 17
Labour 16
Lib-Dems 14
Greens 9
BNP 6

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:22:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC predictions based on partial results:
Con 27%
UKIP 17%
Lab 16%
LD 14%
Green 9%
BNP 6%
SNP 2%
PC 1%

Caveat-computer failure in South East means some results are provisional

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:22:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
So Greens get no seats with 9% while BNP gets with 6%. Britain nicely castrated proportional voting...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:29:50 PM EST
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Which translates into projected seats as follows:

Con 25
Lab 13
UKIP 13
Lib Dem 11
Green 2
BNP 2
SNP 2
Plaid Cymru 1

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:33:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
London results

BNP 86420
CPA (Christians) 51336
Conservatives 479037
Lib Dem 240156
Green 190589
Labour 373590
UKIP 188440

Con 3
Lab 2
Lib 1
Gr 1
UKIP 1

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:42:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
South West

Con 468000 approx
Lab 118716
Lib Dem 266253
UKIP 341845
Green 144179
BNP 60889

Con 3
Lab
Lib Dem 1
UKIP 2
Green
BNP

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:20:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
South East

Cons 812288
Lab 192592
Lib 330340
UKIP 440002
BNP 101769
Green 271506

Con 4
Lab 1
Lib Dem 2
UKIP 2
Green 1

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:25:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:10:10 AM EST
First count results for the South constituency

Top two are guaranteed to make it. The last seat looks like a toss-up at present.

by det on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:21:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I see Libertas crashed...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:35:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ganley did very well in the North-West.

Transfers might do it for him, but Harkin has a reasonable head-start at present. I would assume Labour and SF transfers won't go his way, but you never can tell.

by det on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:55:22 PM EST
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As of now, still only 4 seats are filled:
Fine Gael (EPP) 2
Labour (PES) 1
Socialist Party (GUE/NGL) 1

While counting goes on elsewhere, Declan Ganley of Libertas is causing trouble:

RTÉ News: Elections 2009 - Election Tracker

-European elections: Mr Ganley said that it's a re-check and not a re-count, and he will accept the final results when every vote has been counted

-European elections: Declan Ganley has told RTÉ that he has had eye witness reports that some of his votes were moved to the wrong part of the count centre

...

09:40 European elections: Declan Ganley (Libertas) has begun a further set of discussions with the returning officer on how the spot checks on the bundles of votes will be carried out

...because he is set to lose:

RTÉ News: Elections 2009 - Elections 2009: Counts resume

In the North West, it looks like seats will go to Pat the Cope Gallagher of Fianna Fáil, Jim Higgins of Fine Gael and Independent Marian Harkin.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 05:22:10 AM EST
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Establishing a "we were robbed" meme. It will fit well with his cult-of-victimhood tendencies.
by det on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 07:25:30 AM EST
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RTÉ News: Elections 2009 - Ganley quits politics after conceding NW seat
Declan Ganley has conceded that he will not take a seat in the North West constituency and will now 'bow out of political life'.

Arriving at the count centre in Castlebar this evening, Mr Ganley said he accepted that people had not given him a mandate to represent them in the European Parliament.

He also stated he would play no part in the second Lisbon referendum, saying it remained to be seen whether Libertas as an organisation would be involved.

Last night, the Libertas leader had requested a recheck of ballots in the North West amid concerns that some of its votes may have been inadvertently allocated to other candidates.

However, that recheck found that Mr Ganley had been awarded 3,000 extra votes in error.

The 3,000 votes - for Independent candidate Fiachra O'Luain - were found in the Libertas bundles and Mr O'Luain's first count total has now been revised upwards accordingly.

Mr O'Luain said he is now asking gardaí in Castlebar to investigate how his votes ended up in Mr Ganley's bundles.

Hahahaha!...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 04:18:42 PM EST
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The results for Ireland:

EPP-ED: 4 seats
UEN: 3 seats
PES: 2 seats
ALDE: 1 seat
GUE/NGL: 1 seat
non-inscrits: 1 seat

Apparently 1 seat for Libertas. Boo! But it might yet change.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:11:08 PM EST
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The results don't show a Libertas seat - they're fourth behind the sitting independent with only Labour and Sinn Fein votes left to redistribute, and I'd guess most of those will go to the Independent rather than Ganley, though weirder things have happened. See here. So it's possible, but I don't think it's likely right now.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:26:49 PM EST
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OK, the Beeb is saying:

EPP-ED: 4
ALDE: 3
PES: 2
GUE/NGL: 2
IND-DEM:1

According to the beeb, Fianna Fail is moving to ALDE (just said so on the broadcast so I guess that's right).

The Beeb seems not to be counting the independent ALDE member from North West. So the correct projection should (I guess) be 4 for ALDE and 1 for GUE/NGL.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:06:47 PM EST
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BS.

Libertas denies paying candidates | IOL

The count in the North West constituency is not expected to conclude until tomorrow afternoon.

Outgoing MEP Marian Harkin topped the poll on the first count followed by Pat the Cope Gallagher of Fianna Fail.

The three seats are now expected to go to Fianna Fail's Pat the Cope Gallagher, Independent Marian Harkin and Fine Gael's Jim Higgins.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:27:31 PM EST
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Libertas below 5% according to the BBC. Ganley hoping for transfers from Sinn Fein, Labour and others.

Possible admin error with votes in Ganley's constituency-to be checked tomorrow???

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:05:19 PM EST
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by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:10:50 AM EST
Tentative results for Slovakia:

Smer (PES) 32% (5 seats)
SDKÚ (EPP) 16% (2 seats)
MKP/SMK (EPP) 12% (2 seats)
KDH (EPP) 11% (2 seats)
HZDS (Non-Inscrit; wanted to join EPP but wasn't liked) 9% (1 seat)
SNS (Non-Inscrit; far-right) 5.5% (1 seat)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:32:28 PM EST
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So far I found only incomplete percentages.

ODS (to be created EC): 27.41%
ČSSD (PES): 26.61%
KSČM (GUE/NGL): 16.55% (!)
KDU-ČSL (EPP): 7.91%
Suverenita (appears to be an anti-Lisbon coalition): 4.98%

Greens, Libertas, far-right nowhere to be seen.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:47:24 PM EST
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Results for Malta:

EPP-ED: 2 seats
PES: 3 seats

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:29:29 PM EST
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Results for Cyprus:

EPP-ED: 2 seats
GUE/NGL: 2 seats
PES: 1 seat
Non-inscrits: 1 seat

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:32:26 PM EST
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I couldn't track down what happened exactly, but the non-inscrit should belong into ALDE. They had a crazy illiberal MEP who left DI.KO but remained in ALDE, now he is out.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:06:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Results for Latvia:

UEN: 3 seats
EPP-ED: 1 seat
ALDE: 1 seat
Greens-EFA: 1 seat
non-inscrits: 2 seats

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:35:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Latvia, per BBC

Non inscrits 2
PES 2
Green 1
EPP 1
Liberal 1
UEN 1

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:05:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC mis-placed PS as PES...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:18:58 PM EST
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There will be four sections for this day:

1.) Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Germany

2.) Denmark, Spain, Estonia, Finland, France

3.) Greece, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg

4.) Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Sweden

by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:11:25 AM EST
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:12:18 AM EST
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Conservatives emerge on top in Germany's EU vote | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 07.06.2009
Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives emerge as the strongest party in first exit polls. According to exit polls, the CDU takes 38.2 percent. The Social Democrats SPD come in second with 21.3 percent.  

The conservative Christian Democrats CDU and their Bavarian sister party CSU have won the EU elections in Germany.

 

Chancellor Merkel's party came in first with 38.2 percent of the votes, suffering substantial losses compared to their 2004 result of 44.5 percent.

 

The Social Democrats SPD fell to 21.3 percent from 21.5 percent in 2004 according to first forecasts released by Germany's public television at 18 pm.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:37:32 PM EST
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Voter turnout - according to German TV - roughly equal to the 2004 elections with 42-43%.
by Detlef (Detlef1961_at_yahoo_dot_de) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:06:12 PM EST
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Latest projections for Germany:

CDU/CSU:   38.6%
SPD:           21.0%
Greens:       11.9%
FDP:           10.8%
Left:             7.6%
Others:       10.1% (none reaching 5%)

Seats:
CDU/CSU:   43 (-6)
SPD:           23 (0)
Greens:       13 (0)
FDP:           12 (+5)
Left:             8 (+1)

by Detlef (Detlef1961_at_yahoo_dot_de) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:16:19 PM EST
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New figures from the ARD:

Percentages:
CDU/CSU:   37.9%
SPD:       20.8%
Greens:    12.1%
FDP:       11.0%
Left:       7.5%
Others:    10.1% (none reaching 5%

Seats:
CDU/CSU:   42 (-7)
SPD:       23 (0)
Greens:    14 (+1)
FDP:       12 (+5)
Left:       8 (+1)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:52:37 PM EST
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These are now Final percentages:

Turnout:       43.3%       (+0.3)
CDU:       30.6%       (-5.9)
CSU:       7.2%       (-0.8)
SPD:       20.8%       (-0.7)
Greens:    12.1%       (+0.2)
FDP:       11.0%       (+4.9)
Left:       7.5%       (+1.4)
Free Voters (localists):       1.7%       (+1.7)
Republicans (far-right):       1.3%       (-0.6)
Animal Protectionists:       1.1%       (-0.2)
Family:       1.0%       (0)
Pirates:       0.9%       (+0.9)

There was an untypically large array of dwarf parties running (which I'm not listing).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:18:08 PM EST
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Official result (percentage, seats):
CDU/CSU (EPP)                37,8      42
SPD (PES)                        20,8      23
GRÜNE (Greens-EFA)         12,1      13
FDP (ALDE)                       11,0      12
DIE LINKE (GUE/NGL)          7,5        9

Freie Wähler (independent conservatives)  1,7
Republikaner (right-wing)                    1,3
Tierschutzpartei (animal rights)            1,1
Familienpartei (family rights)               1,0
Piratenpartei (informational rights)        0,9
Others (21 partys)                               4,8


"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:18:56 PM EST
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The seats should be 8 for the Linke; 14 for the greens. See here.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:34:51 PM EST
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Yeah, never rely on the media. But to be fair, it was the one seat crossing over for the whole evening.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:50:00 PM EST
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Commentary on the miserable performance of the German SPD in SPIEGEL:

Europawahl-Pleite der SPD: Steinmeiers Leidensweg ins Nirgendwo - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Politik The SPD's European election debacle: Steinmeier's way of suffering into the No Man's Land - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - Politics
Dass sich die Deutschen für die Europawahlen nur am Rande interessieren, war vorhersehbar. Dass die wenigen wahlbereiten Deutschen diese Gelegenheit nutzen würden, gleichzeitig ihr massives Desinteresse an der Sozialdemokratie zu demonstrieren, überrascht heute sogar die Pessimisten in der SPD.The fact that the Germans are only marginally interested in the European elections was predictable. That the Germans will simultaneously use this opportunity to demonstrate their massive disinterest in social democracy, surprises even the pessimists in the SPD today.
Zwar liegt das miserable Abschneiden der Sozialdemokraten durchaus im europäischen Trend, aber das kann die Führung der Partei kaum trösten. Im Gegenteil: Die SPD hat nicht nur ein Mobilisierungsproblem, sie hat vor allem ein Problem mit ihrem Spitzenkandidaten, der mit seinen Versuchen, in den vergangenen Monaten innenpolitisches Profil zu gewinnen, offenbar komplett gescheitert ist.Although the miserable performance of the Social Democrats was well in the European trend, this can hardly console the party leadership. On the contrary, the SPD has not only a mobilization problem, it has above all a problem with their leading candidate [in the upcoming national elections], who apparently failed completely with his attempts in recent months to win a domestic political profile.

LOL. So perhaps you shouldn't have supported the return of and takeover by the Schröderite Old Guard... (Müntefering, Steimeier)

As for who is that "you": this was written by SPIEGEL's resident neocon, Claus Christian Malzahn, whom we highlighted on ET a few times before. I refrain from quoting how he tries to spin it all against campaigning on the left again. Nevermind that overall, left-wing parties gained and right-wing parties lost (vs 2004).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 04:53:34 AM EST
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Tentative result for Austria,

ÖVP (EPP) 29.7% (-3.0), 6 seats (0)
SPÖ (PES) 23.8% (-9.5), 5 seats (-2)
Hans Peter Martin (Non-Inscrit) 17.9% (+3.9), 3 seats (+1)
FPÖ (Euronat?) 13.1% (+6.8), 2 seats (+1)
Grüne (Greens-EFA) 9.5% (-3.4), 1 seat (-1)
BZÖ (the late Haider's FPÖ breakaway party, far-right) 4.7% (-), 0 seats (0)

The SPÖ's downfall is a surprise. The BZÖ are just at the limit of getting one mandate. The FPÖ hoped for more.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:43:47 PM EST
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Okay, the above are actually the unofficial final results. So, az SPÖ crash, a Greens downsizing, but FPÖ couldn't gain as much as they wanted, and BZÖ out.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:04:53 PM EST
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Results for Bulgaria:

EPP-ED (26%) 5 seats
PES (20%) 4 seats
ALDE: (20-21%) 4 seats
Uncommitted (18-20%) 4 seats

There are two ELDR/ALDE parties, one with 3 and one with 1 seats. There are also 2 uncommitted parties each with 2 seats, one of them centre-right, the other far-right.

(source)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:17:36 PM EST
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The constituents of the centre-right Blue Coalition are EPP.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:26:57 PM EST
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Results for Belgium:

EPP-ED: 6 seats
PES: 5 seats
ALDE: 5 seats
Greens-EFA: 3 seats
Others: 3 seats

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:13:25 PM EST
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by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:12:55 AM EST
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Finland polling stations now closed.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:06:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Updating results in Finland

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:17:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Could you copy-and-paste it here, with EP party affiliations added?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:58:22 PM EST
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Ist number = projected seats. 2nd number % of votes counted. 3rd number votes counted so far

National Coalition Party    3    22,0    301 524   
Centre Party of Finland    3    20,8    286 052   
Social Democratic Party       2    17,8    245 092   
Green League                    1    10,9    149 922   
True Finns                         1    10,0    137 487   
Swedish People's Party    1    6,3            85 875   
Left Wing Alliance            1    6,0            81 992   
Christian Democrats         1    4,4            59 845

Social democrats down 1 seat, Swedish People's remarkably retains seat. True Finns (The Ugly Party) get a seat. Damn. How embarassing.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:46:54 PM EST
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As I figured it out in the meantime, EP party affiliations:

National Coalition Party - EPP  
Centre Party of Finland - ALDE
Social Democratic Party - PES
Green League - Greens-EFA
True Finns - Non-Inscrits (Libertas)
Swedish People's Party - ALDE
Christian Democrats - EPP

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:49:26 PM EST
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Turnout down just over a point. But I bet, proportionally, Swedish speaking voters have been more active this time. The SPP was not predicted to get a seat before voting. If SPP do get one tonight then my close colleagues will be congratulating themselves on their marketing ideas and execution ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:54:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
position unchanged

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:58:08 PM EST
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I guess this looks like the end result. The True Finns have 150.000 votes so far. Luckily I know what most of them will look like...It's the closet fascists that worry me.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:02:11 PM EST
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Live report from a colleague at the SPP election HQ. It's still tight. SPP needs over 6%. Now at 6.1%. The only relief is that there are still votes to be counted from the Helsinki region which has a higher % of swedish speakers.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:11:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Situation electric at SPP HQ ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:20:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Looks like 5000 more Swedish speakers turned out this time compared with last EP election.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:21:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

National Coalition 23.2% (3 seats) -1

Centre Party 19.0% (3 seats) -1

Social Democrats 17.5% (2 seats) -1

Green League 12.4% (2 seats) +1

True Finns 9.8% (1 seat) +1

Swedish People's Party 6.1% (1 seat) no change

Christian Democrats 4.2 % (1 seat) +1

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:39:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What is their EP group membership?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:42:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I posted it upthread.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:48:25 PM EST
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BTW 13 Finnish MEPs are 8  women and 5 men ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:07:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
National Coalition Party - EPP  3
Centre Party of Finland - ALDE 3
Social Democratic Party - PES 2
Green League - Greens - EFA 2
True Finns - Non-Inscrits (Libertas) 1
Swedish People's Party - ALDE 1
Christian Democrats - EPP  1

(Thus ALDE 4 but the two parties are aligned differently within the group)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:56:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks Sven!
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:27:27 PM EST
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I voted SFP for the first time in my life. Not very happy with that vote, but there it is (although Nils Torvalds wasn't too far from winning, hah). I would have voted Green League otherwise.
Anyway, really smart move on the SFP's part to nominate a popular politican from Åland as part of their list, they managed to get the Ålanders to turn out in droves. If they hadn't, they would have lost the seat.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 08:05:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I voted for one of the HBL leader writers, Björn Månsson. I've met him and discussed with him - he seems well informed (as he should be) about a wide variety of issues. He also has a sense of humour and a command of languages. The Vaalikone profiler put us in fairly close approximation on what I think are the key issues. I'd rather have Nils or Björn on the seat than young Carl, but SFP's problems are not going to be solved in less than 5 dedicated years of change, so perhaps a younger generation rep is a good idea.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 08:29:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The Ugly Party did quite well. As my friend said, "In Belgium you get a fine if you don't vote. In Finland you'll get Timo Soini."

Soini, by the way, has said out loud that he probably won't even go to the European Parliament, but plans to send a substitute instead. Pfffft.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:03:31 PM EST
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Soini, kerpele!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:15:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And "my" party (The Left Wing Alliance) lost again. I don't know how many elections in a row they have now lost; I've lost count a while ago. The Greens say they aim to take votes from the right wing parties and the Social Democrats but it seems that they end up taking the Left votes instead...

(And also, in previous European elections the Left Wing Alliance had an Eurocritic as a strong candidate. This time he was not there anymore so the critical votes went to Soini's Ugly Party instead. The Left campaign this time was about "your conscience and Europe", not so much about "who needs the EU anyway", and it seems that it did not really attract voters. Which is a shame.)

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:46:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
first estimates:


l'UMP arrive largement en tête avec 28,3 % des voix suivi du PS avec 17,5%. La liste Europe Ecologie arrive en troisème position avec 14,8 % des voix devant le Modem qui totalise 8,7 % des suffrages. Suivent le Front National (6,5 %), le Front de gauche (6,3 %), le NPA (5 %), Libertas (5 %) et Lutte Ouvrière (1,3 %).

EPP: 28.3%
PES: 17.5%
Greens: 14.8%
ALDE: 8.7%

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:04:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Does Libertas run under its own name in France, or some dwarf allied with them? (I see on Wikipedia that in Finland, it was the far-right True Finns who did so.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:12:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Libertas gave its name to/ allied with traditional euroskeptic Philippe de Villiers

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:23:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
...and the Hunters-Fishers party, I found on Wikipedia.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:38:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Socilaist's fall is spectacular, and the doubling of the Green vote did not take it up all... even if it seems the Greens and NPA captured all their losses. 44.9% for all left-of-centre parties, hm.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:47:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The PS is being cut down to size, and will need to enter real discussions with others. Watching Cohn-Bendit (big personal winner after Bayrou's smear campaign FAIL) with Melenchon and intelligent PS people in the France2 studio, there's a feeling of a beginning of a reconstruction of the left that must now give up productivism and adopt political ecology as mainstream. A distinctly positive buzz.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:26:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Big bang in France: latest estimation gives (on the left):

PS (PES) 16.8%
Europe-Ecologie (Greens-AFE) 15.7%
Modem (ALDE) 8.?%

In Paris/Ile de France, Europe-Ecologie (Greens, Dany Cohn-Bendit and Eva Joly) comes in several points ahead of the PS (PES).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:12:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I know, ALDE is not the left, but there are reasons for comparing the Greens and ALDE.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:17:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Is there an estimate in seats?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:18:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Just got an estimate here.

UMP (EPP-ED) 30 seats
PS (PES) 14 seats
Europe Ecologie (Greens-EFA) 14 seats
MoDem (ALDE) 6 seats
Front de Gauche (GUE/NGL) 4 seats
MPF+CPNT (Libertas) 1 seat

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:46:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
UMP (EPP)............30
PS (PES).............14
E-E (Greens).........14
Modem (ALDE)..........6
Front de Gauche (?)...4
Front Nat.............3
Libertas..............1
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:46:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Forgot the FN...

Wiki has the Front de Gauche as a GUE/NGL party.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:49:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Front de Gauche is Melenchon allied to the communists

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misčres
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 07:19:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Cohn-Bendit has just announced EU-wide progress for the Greens with a projection of nearly 60 seats in the EP.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:05:26 PM EST
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The parties of the Left are in a heated battle with the Libs for fourth place, while the Greens have almost clipped the Socialists. Meanwhile the center-Right seems to have fractured in Germany, although they still hold the strongest position by far.

And I thought all the action would be in the UK & Ireland tonight...

by glacierpeaks (glacierpeaks@comcast.net) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:28:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Turnout is in line with the 2004 results:
     13h    17h
2004 24.56% 33.92%
2009 24.11% 33.79%
According to El Pais, with 42% of tables counted, participation is 44.3%, below the 2004 figure of 45.9%.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:01:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Party Votes (%) Seats(-4)
PP    5.8M(-0.6M) 42%(+0.8%) 23(-1) [EPP]
PSOE  5.3M(-1.4M) 39%(-4.8%) 21(-4) [PES]
CEU   0.7M(-0.1M)  5%(-0.3%)  2(--) [EPP/ALDE]
IU    0.5M(-1.2M)  4%(-0.4%)  2(--) [GUE/NGL]
UPyD  0.4M(new)    3%(new)    1(+1) [NI]
EdP   0.4M(-0.0M)  3%(+0.2%)  1(--) [EFA-Greens]


The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:18:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Same seat allocation.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:21:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not that I was expecting anything different, but still disappointing ...
by isaac on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:27:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What would not have disappointed you? A 22-seat tie at the top?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:33:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah, well, I would have preferred better results for smaller parties and that the PP wouldn't have won.

While I am not the happiest person with the current Spanish government, I am not sure what the PP has done to deserve the victory ... are they really going to win the next elections?

by isaac on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:46:53 PM EST
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The next elections are far in the future.

This outcome, 2-seat win over the PSOE and 4 percentage points, was described by El Pais today as a sign that the Government should worry.

It's just a 3.6% win, so it's borderline.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:50:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Turnout reported at 46.01%, above the 2004 figure.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:37:52 PM EST
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Turnout 46.03%, same seat distribution.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:01:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not enough votes left to change the result, I don't think...

I'm going to bed now...

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:36:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What's up with the CEU? Have they switched?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:26:58 PM EST
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I see, it's a coalition of regional parties. So one EPP, one ALDE, or what?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:32:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Final results indicate that the right-win aprties do not get any mroe significant votes from other european elections,.
However, PSOE got a very low turnout in some regions whcih traditionally support them with huge amount of votes, specially catalonia, where 200 kvotes stayed home (from 900 kvotes to 700 kvotes) having a vey low participation.

This can be also indicatiosn that recent internal political questions in Spain ahd an influence in the electiosn, int his case the lack of an agreement for the finantial arrangement between the Spanish State and Catalonia.

At least, our TV are showing report from all capitals... if only we would ahve selected a head of the comission .. I would bet that voting total would raise significatively only if some "Head" would be selected by the european parliament.

If not..everything is local.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:39:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe PSOE and PP lost votes to UPyD in a 3:1 ratio... Everyone else polled very similarly except for IU who lost 10% of their votes...

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:00:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In total votes PP increased slightly its numbers.

They had a high turnout in Madrid and valencia, again for purely local reasons regardign the support of the base towards the indicted corrupted members of the right-wing party.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 06:33:38 AM EST
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Denmark, from the BBC:

PES (22%) 4
ALDE (25%) 3
UEN (15%) 2
Greens-EFA (15%) 2
EPP-ED (12%) 1
GUE/NGL (6%) 1

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:58:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Results for Portugal:

EPP-ED: 10 seats
PES: 7 seats
GUE/NGL: 4 seats
Greens-EFA: 1 seat

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:38:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
ah - wrong section, see tiao's comments below
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:43:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:14:18 AM EST
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For Italy the official page with results will be here. Polling stations closes at 10.00pm CET
by Tcpip on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:43:07 PM EST
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The alternative page of the ministry site seems to be faster
by Tcpip on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:25:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And it's great to have you posting at ET!!
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:33:00 PM EST
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In Hungary, one pollsters' prediction is:

  • Fidesz (EPP) 17 seats (+5)
  • MSzP (PES) 4 seats (-5)
  • Jobbik (Euronat?) 1 seat (+1)
  • SzDSz (ALDE) 0 seats (-2)
  • MDF (EPP) 0 seats (-1)
  • LMP (Greens-EFA) 0 seats) (0)

Turnout was around 36%, or about 2.5 percentage points below 2004.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:56:50 PM EST
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A second pollster:

  • Fidesz (EPP) 67%, 16 seats (+4)
  • MSzP (PES) 19%, 4 seats (-5)
  • Jobbik (Euronat?) 8%, 2 seat (+2)
  • MDF (EPP) 3%, 0 seats (-1)
  • SzDSz (ALDE) 2%, 0 seats (-2)
  • LMP (Greens-EFA) 1%, 0 seats (0)

There were several violations of the campaign silence, including far-right paramilitary in uniforms...

On Friday, a Socialist campaign activist was knocked down while he was putting up a poster.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:20:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
OK, now we have the final official results: a veritable catastrophe...

* Turnout: 36.28% (-2.22)

  1. Fidesz (EPP) 56.37%, 14 seats (+2)
  2. MSzP (PES) 17.37%, 4 seats (-5)
  3. Jobbik (Euronat?) 14.77%, 3 seats (+3)
  4. MDF (EPP) 5.30%, 1 seats (0)
  5. LMP (Greens-EFA) 2.60%, 0 seats (0)
  6. SzDSz (ALDE) 2.16%, 0 seats (-2)
  7. Workers' Party (wannabe GUE/NGL) 0.96%
  8. MCF (Roma party, probably PES) 0.47%

It is very very little consolation that a Green party achieved its best results ever (with my vote).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:22:37 PM EST
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Jobbik seems to be exceeding expectations.  Little scary.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:21:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not little. Very.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:07:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In the Poster Spotting diary, I expressed my bad feelings about the liberal SzDSz's campaign slogans asking whether there are 200,001 Free Democrats. A rather damaging campaign in end effect: with SzDSz getting just 62,419 votes, the far-right can now crow (and they do) that the answer is a resounding NO...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 05:31:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What's up with the Worker's Party? It's the first time I notice an entity on the traditional left of the Socialists in Hungary. What sort of left are they?

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:54:41 PM EST
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Sadly the unreconstituted kind, more or less.

In 1989, on the road towards consenting to multi-party democracy, the ruling party then called the Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party held a congress, on which the majority voted to re-form the party as today's Hungarian Socialist Party. However, a minority of diehards chose to go on under the old name. (Since then, there have been a few name changes, but what the Socialists dropped, "Worker", was always part of it.)

While this party adopted some Eurocommunist and progressive rhetoric through the years, it still concerns itself mostly with guarding the good memory of Kádár. (I.e. they get into the news most often when protesting on his birthday or at his grave or defend his 1956 record and such.)

Worse, the party looks like the personal fiefdom of its leader (in office ever since 1989), who gained some quite bad reputation by cozying up to dictators: so for example, during the coup against Gorbachev, he flew to Moscow to be the first to pledge loyalty to the coup leaders; and he got along with ol' Saddam (he was in reality what all other anti-war people were only in the accusations of the warbots).

In recent years, the party had one positive (from my viewpoint positive) campaign of note: that for a referendum against healthcare privatisation a few years ago. However, back then, right-populist Fidesz hijacked that campaign, ultimately leading to a failure of the referendum on turnout. Yet, later on, the Workers' Party did not go out of the way of tactical cooperation with Fidesz and even the far-right on more social-themed campaigns.

In the current elections, the one Workers' Party TV spot I saw was against my liking: they talked about tackling the economic crisis by way of protectionism, and that in nationalist tones -- were they trying to steal votes from Jobbik?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 05:11:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Voter turnout- unofficial- at 19h00 is 53%.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:00:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Turnout for Italy- down by comparison with 2004.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:01:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Almost final results: 56.48% down from 70.70%. What a disgrace!
by Tcpip on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:10:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Actually that was only partial. At around 72% of the precincts counted the percentage of voter turnout is nearly 65% and rising.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:52:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Is that good or bad news?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:53:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Now around 66%. Voter turnout has traditionally been very high in Italy. It appears to be within the general trend of eroding disinterest for politics but 10% lower than 2004 is still high.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:12:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I was in Italy for the second half of may - the number of political posters was incomparably higher than in France...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misčres
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 07:23:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It's like that for every election. I'm not sure exactly how it works, but they seem to put up boards all over town with space for posters from all of the parties.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jun 10th, 2009 at 02:13:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Results for Italy:

EPP-ED: 36 seats
ALDE: 6 seats
UEN: 8 seats
non-inscrits: 22 seats

(my guess is PD will join the PES, but apparently they're undecided)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:02:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It's an internal problem. The PD is more a chimera than a party with a strong leftist identity. It has a strong pata-leftist Catholic component that refuses any concession to secular and socialist values.

Were it to join the PSE, it could provoke a break-up. At the same time Word from Above might order to stay in, thus contaminating the PSE with pata-leftist Catholicism, that is when the vote comes on crucial issues, the PD in Europe might break ranks in order to keep its chimeric identity.

The projections on that site are based on a 39% vote for the Pdl. The latest projections have it at 35%.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:32:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Is it the pata-Catholic element? I thought it was the ex-Radical liberals who wanted to go ALDE.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:43:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Rutelli is an ex-Radical, pata-Catholic element.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:47:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Results for Italy adjourned at 2h15:

EPP-ED: 34 seats

ALDE: 7 seats

UEN: 8 seats

non-inscrits: 23 seats

Reflects the poor showing of Woody's personal political entity, especially in Sicily where Lombardo set out to screw him. A falling out of thieves.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:18:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Greece (exit poll):

PES: (36%-39.5%) 8 seats
EPP-ED (30-33%) 7 seats
GUE/NGL (8-10%) 2 seats
Uncommited (15-19%) 5 seats

Of the uncommitted parties there is one left party (2 seats), one orthodox christian party (2 seats) and one green party (1 seat). I guess the left party will end up sitting either with the Greens-EFA or GUE/NGL and that the green party will join the Greens-EFA. The christians could end up joining IND-DEM.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:51:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
OK, the green party is a member of the European Green Party and the Christians do sit in the IND/DEM group (get your information up to date, Euronews! and European Voice!)

So we have:

PES: (36%-39.5%) 8 seats
EPP-ED (30-33%) 7 seats
GUE/NGL (8-10%) 2 seats
IND-DEM (5.3-7%) 2 seats
Greens-EFA (4.3-6.4%) 1 seat
Uncommitted (4.3-7.2%) 2 seats

All provisional, of course.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:02:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I guess the left party will end up sitting either with the Greens-EFA or GUE/NGL

SYRIZA? Aint't it part of GUE/NGL? (I counted them there anyway.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:11:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Haven't been able to confirm that via wikipedia :-)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:18:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, it's true even the GUE/NGL page lists only Synaspismos as member, but just check the SYRIZA campaign page.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:41:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I've been around campaigning and missed all the fun here but yes, SYRIZA is the mainstream GUE/NGL party and it looks now that it will only elect 1 member of parliament, KKE which is kind of sui generis, pretty much a soviet type stalinist party, yet includes itself in GUE/NGL, will elect two, and the Green Party will elect one. So its GUE 3, Greens 1 from Greece, and 8 for PES and the Conservatives. The triumphant LAOS, extreme rightists I have no clue where they might be heading, but I wouldn't be surprised if they headed where Fini is, he seems to be a role model for bringing the party into respectability - but it's more the Lega Norde type.

Abstention here reached record levels, around 38%, (officially it's close to 50% but that's artificial), since the elections fell on a three-day weekend, sunny and hot, the first chance for a decent summer break. The numbers aren't out yet but probably less than half of the 18-35 age group showed up to vote. This age group's no-show was a disaster for SYRIZA and the Greens, both of which expected better results (and being immersed over the past few weeks in the SYRIZA campaign, I can tell you that despite the small increase from 2004, the mood was desolate).

The Far-right thing is really worrying, there is a huge anti-immigrant backlash in the country, especially in Athens and this result turns the whole thing into a major issue. LAOS was the biggest far-right party, but if you add them, wit various small nationalist and fascist groups, they add up to 9%. 0.5% went to a nazi group. These are real nazis with funny salutes and deadly violent, showing up in various neighbourhoods and playing police: basically beating up immigrants.

The socialists were 4,5 points ahead of New Democracy, the ruling conservatives, which is decent for them and might possibly lead to early elections in October, or certainly March. I hope the weather is uninspiring when this happens.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:45:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This site does say something about GUE/NGL (otherwise it's all the obligatory pun to me)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:28:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Results from Luxembourg:

EPP-ED: 3 seats
PES: 1 seat
ALDE: 1 seat
Greens-EFA: 1 seat

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:24:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Exit polls for parties likely to pass the 4% limit:
Il Popolo della Libertà         39-43%
Partito Democratico             27-31%
Di Pietro Italia dei Valori     5-8%
Lega Nord                       6,5-10,5%
Unione di Centro                3,7-5,7%

It appears Lechergate has not eroded the hold of Berlusconi's personal political entity. The values reflect that the situation has not changed in two weeks.

Sky now has their estimates up:

Il Popolo della Libertà         39%
Partito Democratico             27,5%
Di Pietro Italia dei Valori     7,8%
Lega Nord                       9,5%
Unione di Centro                5,3%

These estimates exclude representation of the cluster of leftist parties that have fragmented since the last general elections. It's sad to see some valid politicians such as Claudio Fava or Nichi Vendola excluded but it simply repeats a secular problem within the left: protaganism.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:32:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The latest projections indicate a strong erosion of preferences for Berluconi's personal political entity, approximately 35%. He had announced practically everyday during the campaign that he expected to carry the absolute majority together with the Lega Nord. He saw his win at 42-43% with the Lega at 10%. Recent polls placed his populist political entity at 39%.

The main opposition party, the Democratic Party, appears to hold grounds at 27%.

Comparisons are difficult to make with the previous European elections as the Left was united under a large coalition. 7 to 8% of the votes have been dispersed this time in small asteroid parties on the left.

The real winners in this contest are Di Pietro and Lega Nord.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:23:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 Projections based on Sky-RAI at 1h20
Il Popolo della Libertà        35-36%
Partito Democratico            26,5-27,2%
Di Pietro Italia dei Valori    8-8,3%
Lega Nord                      9,5-9,8%
Unione di Centro               6%

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:28:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Voter turnout highest in Europe at 66,44%
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:31:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Let's face it, Europe has gone definitely to the Right.

As for Italy, there are local realities that have penalized Berlusconi's personal political entity, the Pdl. In Sicily the tactics of Governor Lombardo have caused a strong showing of the autonomists- over 12%. However on the national level this is not enough to gain a seat in Strasbourg. While the Pdl is penalized, the vote nevertheless shows an unequivocal rightwing turn not only in the islands but throughout Southern Italy. There the Pdl has a showing from 42 to 48% with the traditional exception of the Basilicata. The strong showing there is due to the insignificance of autonomist movements that characterize Northern Italy and the islands. One may not exclude a certain macho vote that identifies itself with Woody's sexual philandering.

The Pd has held its position, perhaps a sign that its collapse under Veltroni has stopped. It is however in a difficult situation to form alliances on a national level with two small but significant parties on either side- Di Pietro's Idv against Casini's Christian Democrat remake. The asteroid parties on the Left have disappeared from any elective role yet persist in presenting themselves with a fiefdom mentality rather than form a pragmatic coalition. Their insistence on disunity is a major voter drain for the left- on the order of 8%.

While the far left torments itself over indistinguishable nuances, arcane for almost all voters, the right wing has no problem kissing up to a demagogic blob of a party, a probable symptom of their intellectual maturity. The only real problem on the right is represented by autonomist movements. But Berlusconi has demonstrated that he can metabolize them quite well when not outright compete with them in racist demagogy.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:04:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Democratic Party may be the first party in the Northeast. Other than the expected drain on its right with the Lega Nord (18%), the Pdl (Ppoppolo! della Libbertàà) may have lost many votes over the Lechergate scandal. For the past two hours the Pd has been one point ahead of the Pdl. Strange is the alchemy of voting.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:30:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Here are the Lithuanian results. The last 2 columns remind the results of the rather recent elections to the National Parliament.

Voter participation: 20.91%. For comparison, the 2004 EP election saw 48.38% participation. The two rounds of the National Parliament election saw 48.59% and 32.05% participation.

PartyEuro P. election2009 OctParlament
%Seats (former)%Seats
Homeland Union - Christian Democrats 26.804 (2)19.7245
Social Democrats 18.623 (2)11.7225
Order And Justice (Rolandas Paksas) 12.242 (1)12.6815
Darbo Partija (Labour Party) 8.811 (5)8.9910
The Polish minority party 8.461 (0)4.883
Lith. Rep. Liberal Movement (without Zuokas) 7.351 (0)5.7311
The Liberal and Center Union (with Zuokas) 3.460 (2)5.348
...
Lithuanian Peasant Popular Union (Prunskienė) 1.880 (1)3.733
...
Rising Nation Party (Arūnas Valinskas, LNK TV)1.04015.0916
by das monde on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 01:32:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:15:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No results yet, but they will be posted by the election authority as they come in. That will happen from 22:00 and the first seat prognosises are expected at 22:30-23:00.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:04:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I've just heard that Sweden's Pirate party has got 2 seats.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:57:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yay!!!

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:02:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Preliminary results:

Social Dems:   27,3 +1,0
Moderates:     16,4 +0,6
Peoples Party: 11,9 +3,9
Greens:         9,9 +4,2
Pirate Party:   7,1 +7,1
Center Party:   6,7 -1,3
Christian Dem:  4,9 -1,0
Left:           5,9 -7,0
June List       3,8 -10,0
Swedish Dems:   3,9 +2,5
Feminist Init.: 1,9 +1,9

Voting percentage sharply up, 6,2 percent higher, from 35% in 2004 to 41,2%.

by Trond Ove on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:20:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Pirate Party Wins and Enters The European Parliament | TorrentFreak
The Pirate Party has won a huge victory in the Swedish elections and is marching on to Brussels. After months of campaigning against well established parties, the Pirate Party has gathered enough votes to be guaranteed a seat in the European Parliament.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:46:50 PM EST
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The Pirate Party got 19% of the under 30 vote, according to the Sveriges Radio.
by Trond Ove on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:58:47 PM EST
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Well it looked that way at first, but turned into 1 + 1 shadow member. But there where no sour faces at the party, we toasted in rum and celebrated the result!

Yarr!

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:41:45 PM EST
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If your MEP uses their media visibility wisely the party can only grow in Swedish elections.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:44:19 PM EST
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Definitly so.

With 200 000 votes this time around, getting over 250 000 for national parliament elections in 2010 should be very possible.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 05:16:58 AM EST
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From the beeb:

PES: 6
EPP: 4
ALDE: 4
Greens-EFA: 2
GUE/NGL: 1
Uncommitted: 1

(so the Pirate Party would have 1, I don't know about that)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:20:19 PM EST
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IIRC the PP announced they'll join the Greens, so I'll add them there. (Rushing to enter it all into the spreadsheet.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:25:09 PM EST
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It is to be decided. Greens has always been a likely group, but I guess there will be talks with groups and discussion in the party forum etc.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:44:40 PM EST
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The European Parliament Website gives:

PES: 5
EPP: 5
ALDE: 4
Greens-EFA: 2
GUE/NGL: 1
Uncommitted (PP): 1

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:10:49 PM EST
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Portugal projections only are allowed to be announced after local 20.00 because we wait for Azores polls to close. No projections are allowed to be broadcast before all polls close.

Around 16:00 affluence was below 27%, so far lower than in 2004.

by Torres on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:38:29 PM EST
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Current results (only 2 MEPs left)

PPD/PSD (EPP) - 31% - 8
PS (PES) - 27 - 6
BE (GUE) - 11 - 2
PCP (GUE) - 10 - 2
CDS/PP (EPP) - 8 - 2

Of note 7% of blank/nullified vote. Democratic protest, so it seems.

Catastrophic results for the ruling PS (not as bad as Brown, not even near it). They were expected to win.

The trotsquists-stalinists of the BE (young urbanites) finally overcome the comunists of the PCP (old working class)

by t-------------- on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:27:32 PM EST
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The two missing are as follows:
1 for PSD (EPP)
1 for BE (GUE)

This seems final.

This according to the private TV channel SIC.
BE was expected to grow, but not this much. I actually know the 3rd MEP from BE and he is a nice libertarian socialist.

Portugal has 22% of votes going to far-left parties, plus 7% of blank/nulls.
I guess that that is what happens when the local labour party becomes New Labour and there are alternatives on the left.

by t-------------- on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:47:21 PM EST
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CORRECTION

Not for PSD but for PS
So:
8 PSD EPP
7 PS PES
3 BE GUE
2 PCP GUE
2 CDS EPP

The 22nd is 99% sure for BE, but it can still go for PCP. In any case it is GUE.

by t-------------- on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:16:34 PM EST
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Thanks, corrected.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:27:45 PM EST
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Romania exit polls: PSD comes first in European elections, slightly overcoming PD-L. Far-rightist Greater Romania Party leader CV Tudor joins European Parliament - Top News - HotNews.ro

Romania exit polls: PSD comes first in European elections, slightly overcoming PD-L. Far-rightist Greater Romania Party leader CV Tudor joins European Parliament de V.O. HotNews.ro Duminică, 7 iunie 2009, 21:12 English | Top News
Exit polls in Romania's European Parliament elections on Sunday showed the Social Democrats (PSD) and Liberal Democrats (PD-L) in the lead, with an advantage within error margins for PSD. According to a poll by Insomar institute, PSD won 31% of the votes, followed by PD-L with 30.4%, Liberals (PNL) with 16.6%, Hungarian Democrats (UDMR) with 9.1%, Greater Romania Party (PRM, far right) with 7.2%, President Basescu's daughter Elena Basescu (independent) with 3.6%.

Another poll by CCSB showed PSD in the lead with 30.7%, followed by PD-L with 30.4%. According to the CCSB exit poll, the following party received:
  • PNL - 15.4%
  • UDMR - 10.4%
  • PRM - 6.8%
  • Elena Basescu - 3.4%

According to the CCSB results:
  • PSD would win 10 seats in the EP
  • PD-L - 10 seats
  • PNL - 5 seats
  • UDMR - 4 seats
  • PRM - 2 seats
  • Elena Basescu, President Basescu's daughter who ran as an independent candidate, is also in the books for 1 seat

The two people leading the populist, far-right group Greater Romania Party are veteran far-right leader Corneliu Vadim Tudor and businessman-politician Gigi Becali.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:39:02 PM EST
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(The CCSB results don't add up to Romania's 33 total, BTW.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:39:54 PM EST
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Poland, according to the beeb:

EPP (53%) 28 seats
UEN (30%) 16 seats
PES (12%)  6 seats

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:52:44 PM EST
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Poland:

EPP  31

UEN  12

Socialists  7

by Sassafras on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:48:07 PM EST
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Slovenia:

EPP-ED: 3 seats
PES: 2 seats
ALDE: 2 seats

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:51:33 PM EST
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A win for the EPP and the Greens/EFA and a loss for the Socialists and Liberals (ALDE).

In particular, ALDE used to have twice as many seats as the EFA, but now they will be just slightly ahead.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:46:16 PM EST
We can't say that as yet -- some large countries are left, in which the Liberals will do well (Britain, Poland).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:53:00 PM EST
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My bad -- I thought PO is ALDE...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:56:50 PM EST
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eu-wide provisionals from europarl.europa.eu: EPP-ED 263-273; PES 155-165; ALDE 78-84; G-EFA 52-56; GUE/NGL 33-37; UEN 33-37

BBC just showed results in so far, those show conservatives holding, PES losing a lot, Greens gaining.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:17:02 PM EST
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The majority in the parliament is at 369 seats. The PES, Greens-EFA and ALDE hold a maximum projected 296, with the GUE/NGL they have 331. So there's no centre-left majority to be had.

The EPP-ED and ALDE have a maximum projected 353 seats. Add a few from the 'other' parties (like, say, that party the tories are cooking up) and you quickly have a working majority.

So a 'centre-right' victory would seem to be the logical conclusion.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:26:23 PM EST
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This seen on Facebook:
[To] Graham [Watson, ALDE Chairman], if there is indeed a majority with the EPP, you should press to become the president of the EP. :-)
Ugh.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:28:08 PM EST
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Maybe "ugh", but at least actually democratic and not pre-cooked.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:46:55 PM EST
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Watson is now playing up being the 'king-maker'
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:55:35 PM EST
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We're already getting implistic conclusions in the FT:


But the election's basic message was that voters in the EU's biggest countries preferred the centre-right to the centre-left at a time of severe recession.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:40:21 PM EST
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Not simplistic - self-serving.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:41:11 PM EST
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Right. Unsurprising, either way. A venner of truth, to push a not quite  true version.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:45:51 PM EST
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The Greens/EFA will be the only group to increase its seat count even with the parliament losing seats overall.


The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:46:49 PM EST
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And they are reaching high enough numbers (like in France) to significantly alter traditional political dynamics...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:49:35 PM EST
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to look like an overall outcome: PES down, Greens possibly becoming a major player. It may not be all bad, if ALDE also keeps up a good portion.
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:21:59 PM EST
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It might be worth looking at the balance between left-liberal and right-liberal in the ALDE.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 01:22:37 AM EST
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I thought about breaking down the EPP a bit. They are the one who matter most.
by Nomad on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 11:57:41 AM EST
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As noted in the update of the diary, it remains to be seen what happens on the far-right:

  • the ID (18 MEP-elects) now looks to be below the 25 seat limit, thus poised for dissolution;
  • UEN (32 MEP-elects) may fall below the threshold too, with further departures (in particular the 15 of PiS from Poland may join the EC);
  • though Euronat parties collected only 17 MEP-elects, they may yet manage to cobble together a far-right faction with UEN and ID dropouts.

By my count, there are altogether 37 far-right MEP-elects (23 Non-Inscrits, among them 17 associated with Euronat and/or the late ITS faction; 2 in the ID; 12 in the UEN), which would place them between Greens and GUE/NGL in size. However, they won't all suffer each other in the same faction. Not even all Euronat parties are compatible: above all Jobbik/Hungary and PRM/Romania (both with 3 MEP-elects).

(In the above didn't UKIP and PiS as far-right, BTW -- 'hard right' suffices probably, though I'm not sure about UKIP.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 06:26:34 AM EST
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consisting of the Conservatives (UK; 26 seats) and the ODS (Czech Republic; 9 seats), correct?
by Nomad on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 07:44:12 AM EST
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Yep.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 07:56:37 AM EST
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Minor correction: it consists of ODS (9), Tories (25), and North Ireland's Ulster Unionist Party (UUP, 1 seat).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 at 08:01:27 AM EST
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When is their deadline for forming new groups/recruiting new members?

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Wed Jun 10th, 2009 at 09:41:00 AM EST
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Group formation/dissolution can happen in the middle of a parliament's term.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 10th, 2009 at 10:32:29 AM EST
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I meant the groups that may not reach the threshold for group status. When would for example I/D need to have recruited their extra members? When the parliament opens? Or does the parliament have a forming period of some sort?

(I kind of remember that ALDE was formed early autumn 2004.)

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Wed Jun 10th, 2009 at 04:47:11 PM EST
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From RTE:
Update on first prefs of the Euro national vote - Libertas (5.6%), FF (24%), FG (29%), Lab (14%), Greens (2%), SF (11%), OTH (14.2%)

Greens being punished for being in government with FF - have lost almost all their local government seats.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:13:27 PM EST
FG are EPP, FF are ELDR, Labour are PES, Sinn Fein are GUE-NGL. Libertas are Republican Party. Oh, hold on.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:17:07 PM EST
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Please repost in proper section!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:37:33 PM EST
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Colman, I'm getting my parties mixed up in my head: Libertas is a right-wing party, right?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:54:59 PM EST
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Libertas is astro-turfing by the US Mil Ind complex.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:56:14 PM EST
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Ah, ok.  I'm wondering why in God's name Joe Trippi was working for them.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:01:37 PM EST
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For those of you who are curious to learn more about the various larger European parties, I suggest you check out Luis de Souza's articles. Here is the link to his latest one, and on that article there are links to his discussions on other parties:

http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2009/6/5/152052/1046#1

Thanks and tips to Luis!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:45:52 PM EST
Hi all from from a noisy sports bar in sunny Spain!  I'm trying to do a results post for Ireland but really need to be able to import spreadsheet tables to do justice to the subtletess of votes transferring between candidates as candidates are eliminated from the count.  Anyone know a simple way of publishing a table in scoop without losing all the formatting?  I've tried saving the excel table as an xml and htm file but still lose the formating without which the numbers really aren't intelligible.  Many thanks if someone has a solution.

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:28:37 PM EST
If the table is not too big, a screenshot might do the job.


You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:52:09 PM EST
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Thanks - i found a html format I could use

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 01:45:28 PM EST
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Lots of late night sleepless around! I hovever shall think of tomorrow.... so I bolt out.

Unless someone else does it by then, I will look for all the final results (most in the graph are projections or preliminary) tomorrow evening.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:01:34 PM EST
The European Parliament gives the following results for the elections:

EPP-ED: 267 seats
PES: 159 seats
ALDE: 81 seats
Greens-EFA: 51 seats
UEN: 35 seats
GUE/NGL: 33 seats
IND/DEM: 20 seats
non-inscrits: 90 seats

The BBC has slightly different results:

EPP-ED: 265 seats
PES: 184 seats
ALDE: 83 seats
Greens-EFA: 50 seats
UEN: 25 seats
GUE/NGL: 36 seats
IND/DEM: 21 seats
non-inscrits: 72 seats

The main reason for the divergence appears to be counting the Italian PD among the PES group (which may or may not happen, see de Gondi above).

The European Parliament website also displays the share of the total number of seats as a percentage. This shows that all parties except the greens lose share (the PES the most).

However, a lot could change after the remaining non-inscrits get divided up into parties. In this context, the tories will form their own party with ~ 26 of their seats, 9 of the Czech ODS seats and possibly the ~ 12 Polish PiS seats (now in the UEN, and which would probably destroy that group).

That leaves 32-35 seats of various parties that will largely remain isolated, although a few might join some other party.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 05:53:31 AM EST


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