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Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:01:17 AM EST

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Some clients of mine are driving me nuts... very slowly. Death by indecision. Argh.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:02:34 AM EST

Coal's costs outweigh benefits, WVU study finds

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Coal mining costs Appalachians five times more in early deaths as the industry provides to the region in jobs, taxes and other economic benefits, according to a groundbreaking new study co-authored by a West Virginia University researcher.

In the latest in a series of papers, WVU researcher Michael Hendryx questions the idea that coal is good for West Virginia and other Appalachian communities, and recommends that political leaders consider other alternatives for improving the region's economy and quality of life.

"Coal-mining economies are not strong economies," Hendryx said in an interview last week. "[Coalfield communities] are weaker than the rest of the state, weaker than the rest of the region, and weaker than the rest of the nation."

Writing with co-author Melissa Ahern of Washington State University, Hendryx reports that the coal industry generates a little more than $8 billion a year in economic benefits for the Appalachian region.

But, Hendryx and Ahern put the value of premature deaths attributable to the mining industry across the Appalachian coalfields at -- by their most conservative estimate -- $42 billion.

Coal power is cheap for its buyers, just like Chinese toys are cheap for their buyers - because someone else pays the bill.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:04:29 AM EST
A dear friend of mine has been leading coal mountain top removal protests for the past month in West Virginia.  The action has produced some of the weirdest but toxic judicial decisions i've ever seen in the land of the formerly free, including making it illegal to protest if you've already read about the protests somewhere.

Apparently the FBI has decided to confiscate journalists' cameras and videos of last week's drag line protest, and federal charges may be pending to protect the poison-given right of Massey Energy to remove mountains that amurkans can breathe killer air for their dryers.

Mike Roselle has asked for financial support against the legal charges.  Especially if you're amurkan, please go to Climate Ground Zero.org to find out more.

From James Hansen today:


President Obama speaks of "a planet in peril." The president and the brilliant people he appointed in energy and science know that we must move rapidly to carbon-free energy to avoid handing our children a planet that has passed climate tipping points.

The science is clear. Burning all fossil fuels will destroy the future of young people and the unborn. And the fossil fuel that we must stop burning is coal. Coal is the critical issue. Coal is the main cause of climate change. It is also the dirtiest fossil fuel -- air pollution, arsenic, and mercury from coal have devastating effects on human health and cause birth defects.

.....
The Obama administration is being forced into a political compromise. It has sacrificed a strong position on mountaintop removal in order to ensure the support of coal-state legislators for a climate bill. The political pressures are very real. But this is an approach to coal that defeats the purpose of the administration's larger efforts to fight climate change, a sad political bargain that will never get us the change we need on mountaintop removal, coal or the climate. Coal is the linchpin in mitigating global warming, and it's senseless to allow cheap mountaintop-removal coal while the administration is simultaneously seeking policies to boost renewable energy.

Mountaintop removal, which provides a mere 7 percent of the nation's coal, is done by clear-cutting forests, blowing the tops off of mountains, and then dumping the debris into stream beds -- an undeniably catastrophic way of mining. This technique has buried more than 800 miles of Appalachian streams in mining debris and by 2012 will have serious damaged or destroyed an area larger than Delaware. Mountaintop removal also poisons water supplies and pollutes the air with coal and rock dust. Coal ash piles are so toxic and unstable that the Department of Homeland Security has declared that the location of the nation's 44 most hazardous coal ash sites must be kept secret. They fear terrorists will find ways to spill the toxic substances. But storms and heavy rain can do the same. A recent collapse in Tennessee released 100 times more hazardous material than the Exxon-Valdez oil spill.

Please help the people who are putting their freedom on the line to stop this insanity.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 02:13:02 PM EST
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If you read this you are under a restraining order

Climate Ground Zero activists face contempt charge for violating judge's order to halt anti-mountaintop removal protests

Eleven activists are set to appear before Raleigh County District Judge Robert Burnside to show why they should not be held in contempt for violating temporary restraining orders (TRO) brought by four Massey Energy subsidiaries. Massey said the activists violated the TRO by stopping work again on March 5 and April 16th on the Edwight Surface Mine in Raleigh County. The defendants, who were cited for trespass and released, are awaiting trial on charges of criminal trespass.
The restraining orders were the result of three protests in February that halted Massey mountaintop removal operations on the Edwight mine and on Coal River Mountain.

The activists say the restraining orders are overly broad and should be vacated because they not only bar those that have already trespassed on company property, but "all other persons allied, associated, confederating, conspiring, or acting in concert with them," and indeed anyone who ever finds about the restraining orders, from trespassing on Massey property or interfering with the company in any way. The defendants are also barred from aiding or assisting in any way, others in doing the same. Nine of those charged with contempt of court were not named on the restraining orders and activist Mike Roselle is charged with contempt only for allegedly recruiting participants for the March 5 protest.

Lawyers for Massey have requested that defendants be ordered to pay compensatory damages or a maximum of $5,000 per person (whichever is greater) and compensate Massey for all court costs. Massey has also requested that all photographs and videos of the protests be turned over to them, that any and all publication of the same be barred, and that all proceeds from the use of the media be turned over to them. Finally, Massey is requesting that all the defendants be jailed until they swear in open court never to violate the restraining orders again. According to West Virginia State Code Section 48-1-304, the maximum sentence for civil contempt of court is a 6-month jail sentence.

"Massey Energy cannot silence us" said Mike Roselle of Climate Ground Zero. "Massey Energy is a corrupt and criminal syndicate and we will prove this in court. It is Massey that is trespassing on the public domain by irreparably altering the landscape and poisoning the air and water of this community."



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 02:34:40 PM EST
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If you read this you are under a restraining order.

Thank you JaP for posting this.

Thankfully, no one here on ET can read, so we're all safe.

JaP's original post was about the lethality of coal, which to those of you who could once read means "increased" death from coal.  Actually, more dead doesn't really matter when compared to reaching quarterly profit targets.

I just wanted you all to realize that in attempting to stop uncivilized deaths, you are guilty of having read these posts, and are prevented from taking action against said supercilious deaths.  At least according to the most advanced jurisprudence system in the world.

Of course, you could consider civil disobedience, but then you would be guilty of civil disobedience.

Actually, i thought Spiderman 3 was pretty good.

PS.  Do you think a civilization based upon poison will survive?

PPS.  Don't go to West Virginia to protest, they're only mountains, they can grow again.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:52:29 PM EST
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Numbers On Welfare See Sharp Increase

Welfare rolls, which were slow to rise and actually fell in many states early in the recession, now are climbing across the country for the first time since President Bill Clinton signed legislation pledging "to end welfare as we know it" more than a decade ago.

But it's good news!


The recent rise in welfare families across the country is a sign that the welfare system is expanding at a time of added need, assuaging fears of some critics of Mr. Clinton's welfare overhaul who said the truly needy would be turned away.

 "To me it's good news," says Ron Haskins of the Brookings Institution, who helped draft the 1996 welfare-overhaul law as a Republican congressional staff member. "This is exactly what should happen."



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:38:37 AM EST
haha, well, as I've always claimed, there is no conspiracy.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:27:33 PM EST
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for fans of Bill Maher, enjoy!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid6555681001?bctid=27017295001

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 11:14:25 AM EST
Yea, we enjoyed that one a coupla days ago.

I also liked the one where he ripped Obama a new one, hoping for some audacity.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:01:09 PM EST
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The Proxy Fight for Iranian Democracy - Renesys Blog
If you put 65 million people in a locked room, they're going to find all the exits pretty quickly, and maybe make a few of their own. In the case of Iran's crippled-but-still-connected Internet, that means finding a continuous supply of proxy servers that allow continued access to unfiltered international web content like Twitter, Gmail, and the BBC.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 11:40:10 AM EST
Did someone lose some warm but inordinately humid weather? Is so, we found it and you can come and collect it whenever you like. I want a nap.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 12:02:46 PM EST
Yea, I'm dead on my feet too. Had an hour's nap earlier but I'm fading. Laters peeps.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:50:58 PM EST
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Holy crap, what's going on with oil prices today?  Someone find a few billion barrels lying around?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 12:21:49 PM EST
Perhaps Iran has bought itself some regime change.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 12:44:43 PM EST
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as Muskie said "what happened ?"

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:01:57 PM EST
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I second the request of the preceding lady.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:06:53 PM EST
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Muskie?  I thought it was Fred Willard who said that...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:18:56 PM EST
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Deputy Dawg was way earlier

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:26:56 PM EST
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Down over 4%.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:32:57 PM EST
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which are down on worries that green shoots are not so green.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 02:18:33 PM EST
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Is the Bull Run Pulling Up Lame?
Overextended Rally Seen Ripe for Downturn; Look Out 6547.05, Says Mr. Roth

Indicators of market health, including trading volume, buying demand and trading by companies and corporate insiders, are beginning to flash yellow or red. People also are beginning to question whether the economic fundamentals are strong enough to justify continued gains.

(...)

Pessimists think the damage could be greater, and the real pessimists worry that stocks could fall to new lows by autumn. They say stocks just aren't behaving as they have at the start of past bull markets.

Consider trading volume. Average daily volume for all New York Stock Exchange stocks hit a record of 7.21 billion shares in March, as the rally began and heavy buying sent stocks sharply higher. That slipped to 6.42 billion in April, and so far this month, it is running at 5.14 billion, putting it well below the 2009 average of 6.15 billion a day.

"A new bull market is one when investors are prepared to commit larger and larger amounts of new money to equities," says Paul Desmond, president of Lowry Research in North Palm Beach, Fla. "What we have seen here is a very consistent drop in total volume going back to early April."

Mr. Desmond says his data, going back to the 1930s, don't show any new bull market with such a weak volume trend, which leads him to believe that this rally won't become a lasting bull market.

Other data reinforce that concern. The number of stocks joining in the gains has begun to shrink, which doesn't typically happen this soon in a real bull market. And Mr. Desmond's measure of stock demand, based on the amount of trading volume and price change occurring on stock gains, indicates that demand has been fading, another negative signal.

"Investors are risking smaller and smaller amounts of capital and that is a bad sign," Mr. Desmond says.

The weakening volumes is a damning sign, I'd say.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 02:26:49 PM EST
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bull-worship is a knee-jerk as it was in minoan crete, apparently.

is it fatted, oops bloated cow, or golden calf?

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 07:03:24 PM EST
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Obviously, one-horned golden calf.  That answers the question, n'est pas?

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 07:11:04 PM EST
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yup, don't forget it's invisible hoof!

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 08:31:45 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Politics | Chairman urges public Iraq probe

The chairman of the Iraq inquiry, Sir John Chilcot, has said as much evidence as possible should be held in public.

In a letter to Gordon Brown, Sir John said it would be "essential" to conduct a mainly open process.

Mr Brown faced criticism for announcing that it would take place in private and later said Sir John could decide to hold public sessions.

Jack Straw, foreign secretary in 2003, has said that he has "no problem" with giving evidence in public.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:05:16 PM EST
Today, Kodak announced they will retire Kodachrome Film, concluding its 74-year run.

It was a difficult decision, given its rich history. At the end of the day, photographers have told us and showed us they've moved on to newer other Kodak films and/or digital. KODACHROME Film currently represents a fraction of one percent of our film sales.

We at Kodak want to celebrate with you the rich history of this storied film. Feel free to share with us your fondest memories of Kodachrome.

Some interesting thoughts and photographs from professional photographers that used the film make up the remaining part of the article.

by Magnifico on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:36:05 PM EST
I'm trying to post a picture from another website, specifically this one, to illustrate a story, but I can't get it to embed.

I'm using the code from the new user guide, ie a href="http://www.eurotrib.com/"> < img- src="http://www.eurotrib-.com/images/eurotb-logo.png"></a<p> but it doesn't work (code error introcued to display code not picture.)

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:46:16 PM EST
you need to save it as a .jpg, or .png or .gif or .tiff

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 02:17:53 PM EST
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Oh, okay. Well I can't save it anywhere except on my C: drive, so I guess I'll just have to pass that one.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:04:21 PM EST
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Here's the link:
http://www.eurotrib.com/files/3/090622_gAyTM.png


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:17:09 PM EST
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thanks, it was just to make the point that the White house seems determined to insult the LGBT community with its more-than-slightly-insincere efforts to make nice. There has been pretty much the complete opposite of the "fierce advocacy on gay rights" Obama promised during the campaign and the DoJ paper on support DOMA, which seemed to take its ideas from the far-right, was just about the last straw.

So the WH has been engaging in pretty piss-poor attempts to make "nice", not understanding that when the straw breaks the camel's back, simply removing the straw anin't gonna cut it. A lot of people initially suspected that it was just because this is the 40th anniversary of Stonewall and there are a lot of planned back-slapping opportunities in DC upcoming.

now it turns out that fund raising has been flatlining since the Inauguration and the Dems were expecting a traditionally generous segment of the "base" to open up their wallets and replenish the coffers.

Well, guess what ? As per the picture above, it ain't happening until the LGBT community see real progress on DADT (including an executive order to stop the sackings soon), DOMA & ENDA. And Executive "memos" that promise the earth and deliver nothing don't cut the mustard.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:40:27 PM EST
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  1. Download to C drive

  2. Open in suitable photo editing program (Photoshop in my case)

  3. Allow program to rasterise (convert text to uneditable image)

  4. Adjust image size

  5. Save as jpg

  6. Upload to your  photo file sharer

OR

Forget all that and wrap your img src around this:

http://www.eurotrib.com/files/1549/GayTM_copy.jpg

I've done all the above (had to to find out how to do it) and loaded it onto the ET server, ready, I hope, for an ET diary  ;) (Pretty please, if you're planning to make  much use of it elsewhere, download it and upload it to photobucket or flickr or something...)

by Sassafras on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:38:37 PM EST
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LOL.  Note to self. Check current situation after taking a phone call in the middle of a posting.  ;)
by Sassafras on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:40:27 PM EST
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Line 2 is a problem. No image programme except Paint which I doubt has anything like file format conversion in it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:44:42 PM EST
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I'll have to hand you over to the experts on that one, sorry, because I only know how to use what I've got.  If you do a Google search for free photo editing software pdf conversion there seems to be lots of options.  But I don't know which work, or are safe.
by Sassafras on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:57:47 PM EST
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'sokay. I used JaP conversion-ware. I didn't even have to work out how to use the software ;-))

thanks Jerome.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:21:06 PM EST
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I just go shift-Apple-4 and select on the screen the area I want to copy, and it becomes a png file on my desktop.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:32:52 PM EST
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Actually, if you look at the toolbar across the top of the pdf, you'll see a little camera icon called snapshot.

Click on snapshot, then select the area of the pdf you want.

This copies it to the clipboard, from where it can be pasted into Paint.  Adjust size in Image/attributes, then save as a jpg.

(waits for experts to say there's a much easier way)

by Sassafras on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:20:35 PM EST
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No, that's the best. :)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:24:38 PM EST
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Well, apart from JaP conversion, obviously  ;)
by Sassafras on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:30:29 PM EST
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What's the use (for posting here) of a png file compared to a jpg, anyway? But there's no talking to MacSnobs. ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 07:45:44 AM EST
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PNG is a replacement for GIF, not for JPEG.

PNG and GIF use lossless compression, JPEG uses lossy compression.

JPEG is inappropriate for pixel-based images, bitmaps, screen captures, etc. If you use JPEG on images with sharp edges the lossy compression introduces aliasing. It is appropriate for photographs.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 07:49:30 AM EST
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I did say for posting here - jpegs will have smaller filesize than pngs, in general. If I do a screen capture or pdf image copy, I make a jpeg of it for that reason.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 08:04:20 AM EST
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Well, for a non-photo, PNG should be smaller than JPEG, I think. That was certainly true of GIF. Suppose it might not be true now with all the shaded user interfaces and things.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 08:16:34 AM EST
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JPEG destroys computer fonts (and the points and lines in charts) through aliasing, so if the screen capture involves text or narrow lines, it's better to use PNG.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 08:29:36 AM EST
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While I bow to your superior knowledge <bangs head on keyboard>, I just saved a screen capture in png and also in jpeg (at top file quality, 100 on the cursor), and I can't see any difference between the two on a 1680x1050 screen. However, the png file is 46Kb, the jpeg 28Kb.

But I have an awful image on the front page at the moment, I should do something about that... :\

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 08:57:59 AM EST
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OK, I now flee the field in disarray, since the png file I just made to improve (slightly) the timeline image in the COE story, is only 5Kb.

Run, run, run!!!

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 09:59:20 AM EST
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Brave Sir Robin...!

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 10:03:00 AM EST
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Oh well, if paint does the job, that's cool. I hope photobucket take jpgs

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:39:34 PM EST
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They do  :)
by Sassafras on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:45:26 PM EST
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...the Musical. (Now doing the rounds by email.)

I want a floating duck house
I want to clear my moat
I need to mend my tennis court
That's why I need your vote.

I have to build a portico
My swimming pool needs mending
My lovely plants need horse manure
And the Aga needs much tending

A chandelier is vital
Mock Tudor boards are great
My hanging baskets won awards
And I've earned a tax rebate.

I need a glitter toilet seat.
My piano so needs tuning
Maltesers help me stay awake
And my orchard must need pruning

I could have said the rules were wrong
And often thought I should,
But somehow it was easier
To profit all I could

The public really have to see
That the rules are there to test
And by defrauding taxpayers
We were just doing our best

The Speaker of the House has gone,
Our sacrificial beast,
But the public are still braying
For our corpses at the feast

What do the public want from us,
Those vote-wielding ingrates?
They really should be grateful
To be financing our estates.

The message is so very clear,
(we're merely learning late)
That the British way of living well
Is to screw the bloody state.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:07:17 PM EST
Brilliant.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:31:45 PM EST
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Any EuroTribbers in DC, take note: Two trains have collided head-on on the Red Line.  Probably not going anywhere any time soon if you're on one of the Red stops, and I imagine the rest of the system will go to shit, too.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:31:32 PM EST


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 05:51:58 PM EST
A mere hiccup in the growth of technologic control.   See how well the ueberwachungs camera has functioned.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 07:14:31 PM EST
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Yesterday I talked about how this city is so incredibly alive late at night. Today I take that back, at least on Mondays. Wandering through La Latina around 11, 1130, tonight, I was struck by how few people there were. It had the energy and crowds of the main drags in my area of town in Brooklyn. Except that here we're talking about one of the main (the main?) bar and tapas district in a multimillion metropolis, while De Kalb and Fulton Avesthe are the local center for an area of maybe fifty thousand people, nobody from outside the area, let alone tourists (who made up a good half of the people out here). Go over to the East Village, say, and between the locals, the tourists, and folks from various parts of the City meeting up for a night out, and it is hopping. Madrilenos, I'm disappointed in you.

Second observation. Guernica - so much more impressive in person. I always was a little bemused at why it was so admired, and chalked it down to historical significance and good PR. Having just seen it, nope, it really is amaying.

Finally: Dear Madrid authortities,

I understand that renovation is important, and that it will occasionally mar the tourist experience by covering pretty buildings and views with construction stuff. However, surely one wants to minimize that problem, not, say hang huge ugly placards  on historic buildings with the city and construction company proudly announcing past or future work.

Thank You,

MarekNYC

by MarekNYC on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:21:39 PM EST
European Tribune - Monday Open Thread
count and be raised
raise and be counted???

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 07:50:12 AM EST
yes, it was a joke

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 09:46:36 AM EST
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we're all undead now.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 09:47:13 AM EST
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