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Monday Open Thread

by Nomad
Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 09:57:50 AM EST

Who's not distracted by the weather?

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Monday Open Thread | 84 comments (84 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

well its not that im not distracted, just keep getting pulled out into the sun, before snapping back to in front of the keyboard.

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:02:30 AM EST

Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Wow, hotter in London than in Washington.

Still, that's fairly cool for the southern US. I'm quite glad to not live in Tallahassee this week: Upper-90s and storming for the next nine days.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:12:59 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

That's the thing with the UK, it's not as hot as really bad places but you never get a chance to get used to it so it feels worse.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:21:34 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

I remember last time there was a Hottest ever day in England, I just happened to be In Cordoba, where it was that temperature at 11:30 at night

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:36:31 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Well, that and y'all don't have air-conditioning.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:51:25 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

after a long dry sunny fortnight we've been having storms and rain, with sunny spells. perfect growing weather, as plants seem to like rainwater much better that well water, probably because it gets oxygenated on the way down, (and is not icy cold).

a lot of people get headaches in this kind of swift barometric pressure drop, high heat and humidity, and/or feel flattened by a feeling of exhaustion, even after a good night's sleep.

sure nice to see everything still juicy green though, as july and august can be so dry it's scary, dust everywhere, and a microwave sun whose light hits like a hammer, except for a brief period after dawn and before dusk. there was one of those sudden temperature drops a week ago from 32C to 16C in one day that is a bit shocking, you wonder if it's just you!

If'Madness is the absence of work'(Foucault), then Sanity is the presence of play..

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 02:55:32 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 6)

A 13 year old discovers an antiquated Sony Walkman.

BBC NEWS | Magazine | Giving up my iPod for a Walkman

It took me three days to figure out that there was another side to the tape. That was not the only naive mistake that I made; I mistook the metal/normal switch on the Walkman for a genre-specific equaliser, but later I discovered that it was in fact used to switch between two different types of cassette.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:42:49 AM EST

Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Heh, I still own one.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:47:45 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

got any tapes to play in it?

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:02:13 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Yes.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:03:34 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

I've got cassettes I made in the 70s.

Can't think when I last listened to them.

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:35:08 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

My oldest (still works) features The Byrds. Though it was already Oldies But Goldies when I recorded it.

I remember reading back then that audio cassettes were all going to be demagnetised and wiped in a short space of time, could not last, etc, but that one's running late.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:51:26 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 6)

Cassettes were originally designed for dictation machines. Getting reasonable hifi out of them took epic engineering.

Especially at the high end, where you could buy one of these from Dragon decks from Nakamichi in the early 80s for $2500. (About $6000 in 2009 money.)

Considering that most pre-recorded tapes were utter crap, industrially produced to the lowest possible budget, this might have been something of a waste, perhaps.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:10:08 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

Tape for cassettes was manufactured in wide rolls and then cut to format. The cheapest blank tapes were cut from the outside of the roll.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:14:30 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

The width of cassette tape was not inherently a limitation: comparable to 24 tracks on 2" (2 mm nominal, if I recall). It was the speed of the tape past the play head that was the problem: a design function of play length within the cassette.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:19:49 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

Also, head size and tape tensioning. And tape thickness, which also made a difference.

The dupe machines used to run at something like 16X real time for pre-made cassettes and up to 160X real time for tape-only copy before assembly.

If you ran the tape-only copiers too fast the tape would burst into flames, which is probably the only thing that kept speeds from getting higher.

16X real time doesn't give the head a lot of time to kick the tape particles around, so the high end on most recordings started to roll off somewhere around 6-8k.

But most players couldn't play anything over 12k anyway, so not many people noticed.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:44:48 PM EST
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Toeing the Blumlein (none / 1)

Not to mention the frequency range of many people's hearing. Optical negative was rolled off at 10k!

The brain can reconstruct a lot of information - what it finds hard to process is complex spatial reverberation. A lot of recordings today mix all kinds of delays, echoes and reverb in the same track so that the brain cannot 'reassemble' the space. (A function I guess of software that makes it easy to insert a chain in any channel). It is quite tiring to listen to. A stereo recording with a Blumlein pair is a lot easier to listen to, even with limited frequency range and media noise.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:22:00 PM EST
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Re: Toeing the Blumlein (4.00 / 2)

Trivia corner - one of my old school teachers was Blumlein's son. He was - let's say - not someone who'd fit in comfortably on ET, politically or socially.

I noticed that I used to enjoy music more on cassette, presumably because my brain was filling in what it wanted to hear because there was so little real detail there.

That didn't change until I ripped all of my CDs to disk - which makes a bit-perfect copy of the CD master - and started playing them through decent converters.

Now I wonder how I ever put up with vinyl or tape.

I don't find the processed sound tiring - it's been processed for a while now, and I more or less grew up with it.

But it is hard to find really good engineering now, and many (but not all) recent albums seem to sound wretchedly bad - thin, grainy, heavy-handed - compared to some of classics from the 70s, which also had plenty of fake reverb and echo, but managed to hold it together more satisfyingly.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:33:35 PM EST
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Re: Toeing the Blumlein (4.00 / 3)

The best engineers I have worked with as a producer have been real engineers ;-)

The engineer at my favourite studio in Stockholm in the Seventies modded the Dolby A's there - and Dolby bought his mods. He later became house engineer for Abba - and whatever you think of the music, it's great engineering.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:41:00 PM EST
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Nakamichi Dragon (none / 1)

What a memory. I had one, and replaced it with the Z9 which came after. Real sound from a cassette. Wish i hadn't sold it during hard times.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:57:23 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

I do, too. Buried in a box somewhere.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:16:44 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

I have a cassete Walkman which is probably in one of the front room drawers. And cassettes with music on cos I use 'em in me car.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:20:26 AM EST
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Heh (4.00 / 2)

I was at a "swop" party yesterday - I got myself a free mini-disc player - I wonder what people will say of that one in a few years.

(The deal was not entirely free, some African bracelets, a cuddle and a mind numbingly boring book. Also got a dvd of the Simpsons with a collection of Halloween episodes.)

by Nomad on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:08:22 AM EST
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Re: Heh (4.00 / 3)

I didn't realise that was what happened at swap parties.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:10:37 AM EST
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Re: Heh (none / 1)

I still have a big box of cassettes of music I wrote in the 80s.

I'm sure if I wait long enough it's going to be possible to copy it to hard disk just by looking at it and thinking 'Hmmm.'

There's also a DAT recorder. (How many cuddles are those worth now?)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:23:26 AM EST
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I believe (4.00 / 2)

it generally is done with clothes only.

But that was found to be too boring, so the attributes ranged from showerheads to cuddles.

by Nomad on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:32:18 AM EST
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Re: I believe (4.00 / 2)

I have been grossly misinformed by The Ice Storm then.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:42:19 AM EST
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Shirky on power/future of Internet-media (none / 0)

Clay Shirky: How social media can make history | TED

About this talk
While news from Iran streams to the world, Clay Shirky shows how Facebook, Twitter and TXTs help citizens in repressive regimes to report on real news, bypassing censors (however briefly). The end of top-down control of news is changing the nature of politics.
About Clay Shirky
Shirky, a prescient voice on the Internet's effects, argues that emerging technologies enabling loose collaboration will change the way our society works.

This was filmed in May, before the Iranian revolution made what he says so obvious to be almost redundant.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:48:05 AM EST

Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 6)

I'm kind of enjoying this whole America As Not Great Satan thing. Any way we could blame the Brits for Honduras, too?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:55:21 AM EST

Italian President of Honduras? (4.00 / 4)

Perhaps not blame the British, but blame the Italians for giving birth to the new President of Honduras, which, by the way, violates that country's constitution.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:09:52 AM EST
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Re: Italian President of Honduras? (4.00 / 2)

Classic.

But, no, it's gotta be the Brits. Have to keep it consistent, so that attention is gradually trained to look at one country first.

And, anyway, nobody would believe it if you told them the Italians were behind it. ;)

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:15:14 AM EST
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Re: Italian President of Honduras? (none / 1)

except maybe the 'jesuits are behind everything,' cult...

If'Madness is the absence of work'(Foucault), then Sanity is the presence of play..

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 03:05:58 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

No, but fortunately the diversion tactic worked and you didn't notice how we were actually responsible for Brazil's victory.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:18:54 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

I refuse to believe that. It was executed far too competently to have been designed by y'all.

(ducks)

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:39:36 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 2)

I dont believe you fell for the understated incompetence ploy.

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:42:28 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Bond put something in Howard's water at halftime?

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:41:14 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 3)

You'll miss the Great satan thing when it's really gone.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:22:20 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 2)

Please, be our guests. ;-)

One thing I am wondering...

What's the level of desperation in this ploy? If things are going to get worse (for the government) will their propaganda outlets start ramping up the aggro on Americans? Or has it already got passed that? Is the Iranian "hatered" of America a bit to, well, nouveau? Is hatred of the British Empire all that will save them?

Money is a sign of Poverty - Culture Saying

by RogueTrooper on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:25:58 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 3)

Well, I dunno. What are they going to say to us? "Tell the President to stop posting videos on YouTube that make our kids think he's not a total asshat"?

Plus, as I understand it, the ayatollahs are pretty paranoid about the Brits. It's sort of like Cuban exiles with Castro. If a car breaks down in Little Havana, it is undoubtedly -- somehow -- the work of Castro.

So they're both the easier and more natural target.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:49:45 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

I'm distracted, just not by the weather.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:59:31 AM EST

Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

Is this one of those where you want us to ask or will you just tell us :-)) ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:17:11 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

Just by my lack of Protestant work ethic...

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:23:57 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

what's a "work ethic" ? Does not compute.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:46:53 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

isnt it just north east of London?

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 02:04:07 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Hmm, you must be possessed.

I command you to leave the body of Helen!

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 02:13:34 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 5)

No, i went broke and fell behind with the re-payments, I've been re-possessed.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 03:07:04 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 6)

Is that what they call a foreclose encounter of the third kind?

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 04:38:18 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 3)

I've been working flat out for about a fortnight to get two projects finished for today - late nights, weekends, the works. Today the key client staff are off ill. I hate the world and my eyes about to climb out of my head and run off under the couch.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:03:52 AM EST

Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 2)

Today the key client staff are off ill.

This is normal for high pressure projects. Not that people necessarily get ill - they're just as likely to go off on holiday, or be eaten by giant lizards from Saturn, or such. (Or both.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:26:58 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Not that people necessarily get ill - they're just as likely to ...be eaten by giant lizards from Saturn, or such

I've led such a sheltered life, that's never happened to anyone I know

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:32:08 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

But that's how Saturn does it. Astro-scoffers, beware.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:55:59 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 4)

After chasing you to the point of harassment to make sure you are working on the project and there is no slippage, and then taking forever to respond when you have requested information or feedback.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:33:21 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Yep.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:34:08 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 2)

Hope they're back in time to write the check.

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:33:35 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 4)

Madoff's been sentanced to 150 years.

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:51:22 AM EST

Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 4)

That's like what, one year for every half-billion he took?

By that standard your average armed robber would serve something like 14 minutes.

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:55:07 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

Time for all I have ever stolen will be served in the next ten seconds.

..........

Thank you.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:58:35 AM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

$150 of theft? thats either a hanging, or a term in Guantanamo for terrorism, if your a lefty. ;)

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:02:33 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

The scale must be logarithmic.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:11:59 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 3)

Nah, just volume discount.

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:57:17 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 9)

Or, bearing in mind that we used to sentence people to life transportation (Liverpool-Sydney approx 10576 miles) for stealing two sheep (current value around $100), that works out at 105.76 miles per dollar.

In other words, we could send him about 1.17 light years, or a little over a quarter of the way to Proxima Centauri.

by Sassafras on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:37:23 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

Very lateral, but it works for me.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:44:52 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

But will that be with the hard cases, or in the relatively plush surroundings of a low security facility?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:15:19 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

My ten seconds were pretty tough.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:18:48 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

You'll need to be rehabilitated back into society.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:20:50 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 2)

When you've been where I've been, sweety, society's a sick joke.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:46:34 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 3)

So from now on do we call you 'Knuckles' Afew, or what?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:35:06 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 7)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:50:56 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

Hardcore.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:51:35 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

No reason to get excited
The thief he kindly spoke
There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:44:01 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

The wind began to howl.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:49:45 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 0)

but you and i have been through that, and this is not our fate...

If'Madness is the absence of work'(Foucault), then Sanity is the presence of play..

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 03:04:56 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

so let us not talk falsely now
the hour is getting late

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 04:13:51 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (none / 1)

Surely he's a prime candidate for "prison as rehabilitation" rather than "Prison as punishment"

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:21:58 PM EST
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Rock Gods in Hyde Park (4.00 / 3)

Whatever your cuppa tea might be...

Paul McCartney joins Neil Young for "A Day in The Life."

You won't believe the ending.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:52:03 PM EST

Re: Rock Gods in Hyde Park (none / 0)

That was fun.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:51:51 PM EST
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Horror (4.00 / 3)

Der Gropenfuhrer joins Twitter.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:38:51 PM EST

Re: Horror (none / 0)

He's been on there for a while now. He's also been active on Facebook. Kept trying to add me as a friend, I kept declining, he (or, more accurately, his social networking staffer) kept requesting an add. This went on for a couple weeks until they finally gave up.

And the world will live as one

by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 06:01:52 PM EST
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Re: Monday Open Thread (4.00 / 4)

I'm firmly in vacation mode. Trying not to worry about the fact that this vacation is partially not vacation, but unemployment.

The weather in Helsinki today: 28 degrees, sunny. I bicycled around the city center, visited the library and helped out my mom at her allotment garden.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:47:14 PM EST

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Did you get the heavy rain around 16.00?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 01:50:51 PM EST
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Yup, but it was only for a few moments.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 04:14:54 PM EST
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GOD HATES THE WORLD !!!!

The madness spirals in.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 03:52:31 PM EST

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TruthDig: The Truth Alone Will Not Set You Free (June 29, 2009, by Chris Hedges)

Ewen argues that the forces for social change--look at any lengthy and turgid human rights report--have forgotten that rhetoric is as important as fact. Corporate and government propaganda, aimed to sway emotions, rarely uses facts to sell its positions. And because progressives have lost the gift of rhetoric, which was once a staple of a university education, because they naively believe in the Enlightenment ideal that facts alone can move people toward justice, they are largely helpless.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 06:50:20 PM EST

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The weather here (Providence, RI) is OK, at least outdoors. But I had forgotten what American air conditioning is like....

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 08:59:36 PM EST

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