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Brown turns Norwegian Blue

by Helen Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 05:33:05 PM EST

This government is dead,
it has ceased to be,
It's pushing up the daisies...

this is an ex-government

In the last few days, the Labour administration has gone beyond the previous damning phrase of "in office, but not in power" with several significant resignations, and now seems to be "in government but no longer in office". One has visions of Brown commanding illusory Ministers to come up with policies with which to attack his opponents; his advisers hovering around him, too afraid to point out they've all resigned. There is no saving them, no thought now of what could right the ship. What might have been done to prevent this is moot; the expenses saga was not the first blow, but it was surely the fatal one.


Brown won't resign, he is famously stubborn and absolutely imprevious to advice. Also, famously workaholic, his habitual 6 hours of sleep per night have been cut back to 4 and occasonally 2, which has only made his equally infamous inability to make quick decisions or indeed, any decision, even worse. No, he will not resign, even if Jack Straw and a host of other high ranking MPs were to quietly offer him the whisky and revolver of dignified withdrawal. And he would have a point; what difference would it make ? Better leave a clean slate for a replacement than have them tarnished with a now obviously unavioidable catastrophe.

Would there, could there, be an election this year if the euro and local elections tomorrow say the public is rejecting the government ? Obviously yes there could, but the worse the defeat the less likely it is Brown would call one. After all, unimagined redemption could be just around the corner if only you wait. And the Tories are slipping in the polls, too many moats, duck houses and servant's expenses are beginning to remind the public who the Tories are, where they come from and the interests they serve.

Truly a plague on both their houses.

But what is the crime of the expenses saga ? Most MPs are fairly honest about their expenses, truly the ranks of the dishonest or merely greedy is dwarfed by the hundreds who have done little or nothing except complain insufficiently about a system too ripe for plundering. Yet they will be punished along with the worst. We can laugh at the sheer stupidity of millionaires losing plum positions of influence over a few thousand here and there on expenses. Almost nobody (Geoff Hoon excepted) made themselves comfortably rich, even if more than a few lined their nests too well.

At the bottom, this is an issue of trust. MPs are sent as our representatives to Westminster. Not to do what we tell them, but to do their best for us and the Country. Yet there have been too many examples of MPs and members of the Lords selling favours and peddling influence for cash. Brown envelopes stuffed with fivers are no theatrical cliche, they really happened. Equally parties are for sale, policies are too heavily weighted in favour of corporate interests which the public are beginning to recognise do not have their interests at heart. Just this year we have had issues involving inquiries into the expansion of Heathrow airport, coal fired power stations and nuclear power where the decisions were bought and paid for long before the public had their say.

Equally there is an exasperation at the impossibility of change. The first past the post system has resulted in a politics of the lowest common denominator, where both parties pitch their policies for about 50 - 80,000 floating voters spread across 40 - 60 seats. Nobody else matters, and nothing ever really changes. Across the overwhelming majority of seats in the UK, it doesn't matter who you vote for, the same old party wins each and every time.

Of course people don't say that when you ask them unless you explain it all first, they just know the system doesn't work, doesn't seem to work for most people. Just the people at the top. Like MPs. And that's why the expenses row has become an issue, everybody suspected they were in it for themselves but this daily parade of moat cleaners, tax evasions, duck houses and the sheer pettiness of claiming for the donation to the church collection has just rubbed people up the wrong way.

There won't be a revolution, no pitchforks and braziers, no tumbrils or cleansing pyres. But the mood is uncertain. Anything could happen, and a lot of bad things are included in that. but if Cameron thinks he's going to turn this into politics as usual after a conservative election victory, he might be disappointed at how things turn out.

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Looking at this from afar, it appears that the chief winners will be the UKIP (which before the expenses scandals seemed to be almost moribund) and perhaps the BNP - which will give proportional representation a bad name - but is perhaps also the wake-up call the body politic needs.

Is it just me, or is the Telegraph's expenses campaign astutely timed to aid its Eurosceptic agenda and to distract parliamentarians from any effective regulation of the the Financial sector?

From a European perspective, lets hope Brown hangs on long enough for Ireland to vote in favour of Lisbon (by a circa 2:1 margin in October) and we can get that bit of business out of the way before the Eurosceptics take over completely.

A total humiliation of Brown by the English (for it is they) could also hasten a Scottish move for independence given that the Tories are now little more than an English Nationalist party.

Brown, of course, carries the primary responsibility for the mess the British economy is in.  But is there any suggestion that any alternative PM would have done a better job?  Most of the criticism of him that I have seen is still from a neo-lib perspective, with too much rather than too little regulation the primary gripe.

I really hate to have to say this, but Brown may be as good as it gets for the Brits any time soon...

notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 06:11:15 PM EST
Brown's biggest problem, aside from being one of the two architects of New Labour along with Phony Tony, is that he can't make up his mind about anything.  Had he gone at the expenses and electoral reform quickly and in a big way, he'd have closed the gap on Tits the Torytubby.

But Brown is nothing if not utterly useless as a leader.

The mess is, as you said, Brown's.  But I'm a little saddened by his demise because of the fact that, corrupt and stupid though he may be, he is the one guy who seems to at least kinda-sorta get religion on nationalization (or at least that was the case last I'd heard him on it).  And unfortunately his opponent is a prissy little know-nothing rich boy who's probably going to take push teetering Britain off the cliff.

Like Maggie, but with the benefit of Bush's "compassionate conservatism" propaganda to study from.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 06:33:32 PM EST
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Brown's biggest problem is that he's not a politician. I'm not sure what he is, but where Dave from Marketing gets it, and Phony Tony's Pony Show certainly got it, Brown sits there like a bronze statue of a prime minister with bird crap all over his head, while the traffic drives around him.

Picking up after Tonee was always going to be a poisoned paper cup.

I think he may have believed that Tonee was his friend. Sadly not. And here we are.

The mess is at least as much Tonee's fault as it is his. I'm not sure how much policy leeway he really had as a chancellor. I do know he kept some suspicious company. For example:

Financial crisis: Gordon Brown sets up economic 'war cabinet' - Telegraph

Paul Myners, the new Minister for the City, is on the board of GLG Partners, which quite legally made huge profits by "short selling" shares in Bradford & Bingley, a practice which has now been banned by the Financial Services Authority.

GLG held the biggest "short" position in B&B while its share price plummeted. The hedge fund, which has £12 billion under management, traded tens of millions of shares in the bank. The collapse in its share price forced the government to nationalise it last month.

Short selling involves traders borrowing shares, selling them and then hoping the share price drops before they have to buy shares to give them back to the lender. Any difference in the two prices is the trader's profit.

The practice, denounced as "vulture capitalism" by critics, can help drive down the price of shares in companies by undermining confidence in them, though there is no suggestion that GLG was responsible for B&B's demise.

GLG's founder Noam Gottesman, an Israeli-American, rose to prominence earlier this year when it was reported that he had paid himself £400 million in 2007, making him one of the highest-paid men in Britain.

Mr Myners, who is also chairman of Guardian Media Group and a former chairman of Marks & Spencer, donated £12,700 to Mr Brown's leadership campaign last year.

Aside from the obvious - OBVIOUS - conflict of interest, and questions about why there's even a need for a Minister for the City - the fact that Brown let himself be bought for a little short of £13k suggests that he's not even very good at being corrupt. Tonee would have had a house in Hampstead and a lucrative consultancy contract from the same deal.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 08:16:00 PM EST
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Well, let's be honest: Y'all just don't measure up on corruption.  I mean, our corrupt guys go for massive sums and dress the part and everything.

Never trust a politician who doesn't take his bribes from a guy in a trenchcoat and a fedora.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 at 09:18:13 PM EST
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Brown may be as good as it gets for the Brits any time soon...

In a parallel universe they could get Vince Cable.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 02:23:48 AM EST
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it appears that the chief winners will be the UKIP ...  Is it just me, or is the Telegraph's expenses campaign astutely timed to aid its Eurosceptic agenda and to distract parliamentarians from any effective regulation of the the Financial sector?

I had the same impression...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 04:31:02 AM EST
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Is it just me, or is the Telegraph's expenses campaign astutely timed to aid its Eurosceptic agenda

Well any suggestion as such is being firmly met in the High court by representatives of the Proprietors.

Telegraph lawyers shut down Tory MP's blog | Politics | guardian.co.uk

The newspaper is understood to have acted after she made further allegations concerning the motivation of the newspaper's proprietors, Sir David and Sir Frederick Barclay. Withers, the lawyers acting for the Barclay brothers, are understood to have instructed the takedown, invoking the acceptable user policy used by internet service providers to protect themselves against libel action provoked by comments on websites they host.

If you look around the internet her original allegations are still out there, in the sorts of places you would expect them to be recoverable from.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 06:30:08 AM EST
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Libel laws seem to be the first resort of the scoundrel in British politics. Look at Robert Maxwell, always had a pack of lawyers straining t the leash to sue all and sundry if they dared speak anything other than the permitted version. Yet finally it was revelaed that those truthsayers who'd been hauled through the courts had barely scratched the surface of his criminality.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 07:25:11 AM EST
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Why don't we do the world a favour and post it here, then, before it disappears?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Jun 12th, 2009 at 12:31:22 PM EST
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Because the proprietors of that paper have a very large Libel fund, and very agressive lawyers?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jun 12th, 2009 at 12:49:18 PM EST
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Why should Brown resign? Surely, he realizes that it's game over for him once he leaves the leadership. His optimal strategy is to stay leader for as long as he can make it last.

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by martingale on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 02:39:25 AM EST
That is arguably also optimal for his Party. Whoever replaces him as leader now will go to a sure defeat at the general election. So Brown should lead the party to defeat and then resign so there can be a serious leadership contest over the summer culminating in the September 2010 Conference.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 03:37:29 AM EST
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Is there anyone qualified to lead? The current cabinet cabal, even the ones who are left, are uniformly mediocre and tainted.

So even if they can pull a better scapegoat out of the hat in 2010, the chances of a return to power after a single Tory term are somewhere between zero, and the chance that Hazel Blears will finally admit that she's a chipmunk from Pluto.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 05:26:41 AM EST
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Zombie Tony?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 05:45:16 AM EST
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"Look, I'd just like to say..."

[/facepalm]

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 06:13:57 AM EST
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No, of course one shouldn't look in the current cabinet cabal.

Someone from the Left wing of the party such as John McDonnell might be better.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 06:14:15 AM EST
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And of course you know he's failed because he was the most Left wing member of the cabinet, who departed from the true way of Blairism don't you

<Lurches to the right>

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 06:31:53 AM EST
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labour'd win the election if richard branson was party leader.
hell, the lib dems'd win with someone like him.
unfortunately they don't grow on trees, people like that.

as helen has repeatedly pointed out, anyone with original ideas, a working vertebra or two, or any principles has been shown the door.

mediocrity is always the result of groupthink.

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 10:20:23 AM EST
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I'd be vaguely worried about celebrity politics.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 10:40:15 AM EST
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vague worry'd be a nice relief...

i see it as inevitable confluence, it's the sellability, baby

don't you want rock stars bailing out banks in smart suits?

now there's a groove you can believe in.

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 04:43:05 PM EST
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Why?  It's worked wonders for Gullyvornyah.

Twice....

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 06:40:17 PM EST
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