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I can't wait to find out what the green taco bells do.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 10:21:58 AM EST
Oh, lovely things.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 10:56:56 AM EST
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Like "Green Shoots" everywhere, they're signs of nourishment when none truly exist.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 01:22:46 PM EST
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I can not see it either, no blocking -just getting a black screen.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 01:22:39 AM EST
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Glastonbury 2009 - The Big Picture - Boston.com
Over the weekend, appoximately 190,000 people made their way to Worthy Farm in western England to attend the 2009 Glastonbury Festival. Attendees came to see performances at what is billed as "Europe's largest open-air music festival" on many stages over four days - headliners included Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, and a reunited Blur. Rainy weather did little to dampen the mood, as attendees enjoyed themselves in tent cities, concert performances, dance tents, and the surrounding countryside of Somerset, England. Collected here are a handful of images from this year's festival.


Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell. Frank Borman
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 10:43:12 AM EST
These are so good!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:34:35 AM EST
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and fun!

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:36:18 AM EST
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now appears offline... Perhaps it got swamped, but I find it hard to imagine.

Anyone remember the fate of Kazaa? I have a bad feeling about this.

by Nomad on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 10:47:05 AM EST
pirate bay sold

Peter Sunde, co-founder of TPB, has told TorrentFreak that The Pirate Bay will be shutting down their tracker and remove torrent files from their servers
. After closing the tracker The Pirate Bay will use the torrents of an upcoming third party service which will introduce an API accessible by other torrent sites as well.

It's still unclear how GGF intends to compensate the content providers and copyright owners. Neither has the company revealed further information how the acquisited Peerialism and its file-sharing technology will affect The Pirate Bay.

by Sassafras on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:00:15 AM EST
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Does this mean the Pirate Party is going to auction its seat on eBay?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:35:54 AM EST
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???

I get on with no probs... err, not that I would ever download anything of course...

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:03:22 PM EST
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Guess it was temporary.

I'm not big on downloading, simply don't have time to watch even more than I can. But I was curious to find more about the news of the purchase, which is here:

News reached the press today in Sweden - The Pirate Bay might get aquired by Global Gaming Factory X AB.

A lot of people are worried. We're not and you shouldn't be either!

TPB is being sold for a great bit underneath it's value if the money would be the interesting part. It's not. The interesting thing is that the right people with the right attitude and possibilities keep running the site.
As all of you know, there's not been much news on the site for the past two-three years. It's the same site essentially. On the internets, stuff dies if it doesn't evolve. We don't want that to happen.

We've been working on this project for many years. It's time to invite more people into the project, in a way that is secure and safe for everybody. We need that, or the site will die. And letting TPB die is the last thing that is allowed to happen!

If the new owners will screw around with the site, nobody will keep using it. That's the biggest insurance one can have that the site will be run in the way that we all want to. And - you can now not only share files but shares with people. Everybody can indeed be the owner of The Pirate Bay now. That's awesome and will take the heat of us.

by Nomad on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:10:35 PM EST
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I spent the whole afternoon debugging just one problem in a program I wrote: the end result spurted out by a loop became a complex number. I went over and went over c. 300 lines of code, but just coundn't find where I drew the square root of a negative number. Then 20 minutes ago, I finally noticed the missing array index in one addition...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:03:08 AM EST
Oh I feel your pain. I remember spending two days solidly looking through a sites networking setup data files. routing was going up and down seemingly at random, in the end, we tracked it down to a single comma, where there should have been a full stop on a single line, out of three thousand.

It always seems so obvious when you actually see the cause.

Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell. Frank Borman

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:26:59 AM EST
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Heh. I've been waiting patiently for an editor to get back to me with some comments about a proposed book outline.

It turns out that the revised file was at the end of an email sent last week, hidden at the end of the old quoted text, so I didn't see it.

I also didn't see the words 'please read the attached file, revise it, and get back to me' in the main email.

Someone needs a holiday, and I think it could be me.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:34:12 AM EST
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I increased our monthly turnover by 50% simply by turning a . into an ,

why oh why is there no international agreed way how to write numbers. (although I prefer the english before the german...)

by PeWi on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:20:15 PM EST
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Actually... what you call "German" is the international version, and is French in origin:

Decimal separator - Wikipedia

In the Middle Ages, before printing, a bar ( ¯ ) over the units digit was used to separate the integral part of a number from its fractional part, a tradition derived from the decimal system used in Indian mathematics.[1] Its regular usage and classification can be attributed to the Iranian mathematician Al-Khwarizmi. Later, a separator (ˌ) (a short, roughly vertical, ink stroke) between the units and tenths position became the norm. When this character was typeset, it was convenient to use the existing comma (,) or period (.) instead.

In France, the period was already in use in printing to make Roman numerals more readable, so the comma was chosen. Many other countries also chose to use the comma to mark the decimal units position.[2] It has been made standard by the ISO for international blueprints. However, English-speaking countries took the comma to separate sequences of three digits.

Also, I prefer the international version not only because that's the one I learnt first, but for pure visual-practical reasons: because the comma as decimal separator is more prominent than the dot or space as thousands separator.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:11:08 PM EST
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BTW, what is your view on miles, pounds and all the rest of the Anglo-Saxon World Standard [sorry poemless] you have to put up with in Scotland?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:19:44 PM EST
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Put up with? I spent my childhood in Scotland learning how to convert pounds to shillings to pennies to guineas to sixpences etc. They have it easy now...
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:23:01 PM EST
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Dinna forget the bawbees.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 02:44:41 AM EST
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I was saying to someone else a little while back, that I do all my complicated maths in German - even though I am probably reasonable bi-lingual by now, but if I have to divide or subtract bigger numbers, or even just remember number sequences, that all happens in German. It is the only thing I do in German - really strange (well not really, but noticeable).

So all these measurements only get annoying in the miles per gallon - petrol consumption.

nobody buys by the gallon anymore, but they talk about that when the talk about fuel consumption.
HE: Oh, I got 17 miles to the Gallon,
I: that is, wait a moment. siebzehn, mal eins komma fuenf equalls fuenfundzwanzig komma fuenf kilometer hundred divided by that is about vier times gallon, no not 3.7, bu four point five.... What you used how much petrol, 16 liters on 100 kilometers?

sigh.

There is a  SNP drive to introduce Tatties and brambles onto labels in Supermarkets, not sure about that. Are there regional naming variation in country wide operating supermarkets in other countries?

by PeWi on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:51:31 PM EST
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Sure. Do you know Paradeiser? Also, I'm not sure the same products appear as Orange and Apfelsine in the same supermarkets in South resp. North Germany, but both do appear on labels.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 06:11:48 PM EST
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DoDo:
Do you know Paradeiser?

I thought that is a word mainly used in Austria, though the tomato at times is also called Paradiesapfel, I haven't heard the word in a long time.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 01:28:11 AM EST
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Now that you say it Fran, oherwise being from the North of Germany (languagewise - I rather stumble on sharp stones)
by PeWi on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 02:16:26 AM EST
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AFAIK it is used only in (South)eastern Austria, thus there is variation within the country (of Austria). I couldn't find an article on its exact origins, only vague suggestions that Paradiesapfel (for our non-German-speakers: 'paradise apple'; an alternative name used for tomato) was in geographically much wider use.

The word in standard Hungarian (paradicsom) and Slovenian (paradižnik) are the equivalents of Paradeiser (e.g. shortened versions of 'paradise apple'). So it seems to be a cultural tradition that is both multilingual, and only regional within the state it emerged in (the Habsburg Empire).

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 06:19:06 AM EST
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You need to divide 235 by one number to get the other.
So roughly:

60mpg = 4l/100km
40mpg = 6l/100km
30mpg = 8l/100km
25mpg = 10l/100km (well, just under)
20mpg = 12l/100km
16mpg = 15l/100km
12mpg = 20l/100km

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 05:06:33 AM EST
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I looked at eurail passes today - the website claims that if you are over 25, the passes are for first class only. That's a quality joke if I've ever seen one.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:28:26 AM EST
Here they seem to sell Adult 2nd class eurail tickets...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:41:05 AM EST
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Sadly the second class price is the same as the first class price on the site I was looking at.

It doesn't look like it's worth it anyway unless you're doing some serious blitzkrieg travel, so I'll just do point-to-point tickets.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:44:40 AM EST
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There are the n days in a month passes that could be interesting, though. Long range train travel gets expensive very quickly...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:47:26 AM EST
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I just looked at some ticket prices - yowza, it is more than I expeced, but then controlling for my crap currency it looks about right.

Austria -> Madrid was coming in at $900. Think I'll just fly...

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:04:28 PM EST
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The whole real point of the Eurail passes is that they end up being cheaper than long range ticket.

Don't see them as paying for travelling every day for a month, but more as a way not to have to bother with setting up the travel too much in advance, and a few free nights when you don't have to check in at the youth hostel.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:39:37 PM EST
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Which website? I think you've got to keep an eye out for resellers that are less than 100% honest about the options ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:43:28 AM EST
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I was pointed at raileurope.com by seat61.com (used by many backpackers including myself).

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:47:05 AM EST
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It is not a joke, and it is in very bad taste.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:34:43 PM EST
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I've used them when I lived in the U.S. Basically, if you do a lot of travel in a week or two, you don't save any money, but you get to travel first classs for the price of second.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:01:13 PM EST
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Michael Nielsen » Is scientific publishing about to be disrupted?
Until three years ago, the oldest company in the world was the construction company Kongo Gumi, headquartered in Osaka, Japan. Kongo Gumi was founded in 578 CE when the then-regent of Japan, Prince Shotoku, brought a member of the Kongo family from Korea to Japan to help construct the first Buddhist temple in Japan, the Shitenno-ji. The Kongo Gumi continued in the construction trade for almost one and a half thousand years. In 2005, they were headed by Masakazu Kongo, the 40th of his family to head Kongo Gumi. The company had more than 100 employees, and 70 million dollars in revenue. But in 2006, Kongo Gumi went into liquidation, and its assets were purchased by Takamatsu Corporation. Kongo Gumi as an independent entity no longer exists.


Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell. Frank Borman
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:30:53 AM EST
Just purchased Carlos Ruiz Zafon's "The Angels' Game". His "Shadow of the Wind" had me captivated too much to wait for the critics to think if he could equal or best that.

And apparently Zafon is refusing to sell the rights to make it a movie - which gives him props for personality.

What else is being read around here for light reading?

by Nomad on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 11:51:07 AM EST
I'm working on a book on the Ottoman empire and a book on American history.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:23:49 PM EST
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Apparently this has been doing the internet rounds: Curious footage out of the sewer...

Perhaps not to be watched while eating or for those with a queasy stomach.

So, what would this be? Place your bets now...

by Nomad on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:06:50 PM EST
Well from all the training films i've seen from California, it'll be eating homeless people, or teenagers who have sex. and the best way of dealing with it is with a CO2 fire extinguisher.

Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell. Frank Borman
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:14:42 PM EST
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And done with the bowl of chili....

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 01:36:48 PM EST
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continue eating. Perhaps it lives on chili.

Don't say I didn't warn you. :)

by Nomad on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 01:52:11 PM EST
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Nomad:
what would this be?

Spreading abortion guilt.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:09:46 PM EST
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Seriously.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 02:48:48 AM EST
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I know.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 02:49:50 AM EST
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Eeeew.  The third one was the worst, you can really see it contracting. Oh yuk.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:09:53 PM EST
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My bet is that's an endoscopy of someone's digestive tract.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:05:41 PM EST
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Could it be medusae?...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:25:46 PM EST
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You mean jellyfish?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:27:17 PM EST
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Jellyfish - Wikipedia
medusa (plural medusae) is another word for jellyfish.


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:47:37 PM EST
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Tribext isn't compatible with Firefox 3.5!

Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell. Frank Borman
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:25:29 PM EST
Find the file 'install.rdf' in <Application Data||Application Support>/Firefox/Profile/<profile>/extensions/tribext@someone/

change the line:
em:maxVersion="3.0.*"
to
em:maxVersion="3.5.*"

It might just work unless they did some major changes.

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 02:46:55 PM EST
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Nope, didn't work.

Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell. Frank Borman
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:55:27 PM EST
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didn't work in what way?
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 01:38:06 AM EST
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its saying it's not compatible with 3.5, so dosn't let it install still after i've made that change.

Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell. Frank Borman
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 05:33:58 AM EST
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by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 09:09:57 AM EST
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The Australian: Child survives Yemeni Airbus crash in Comoros (July 1, 2009)
A CHILD was pulled alive from rough seas after a Yemeni Airbus A310 jet carrying 153 people crashed as it came in to land in the Indian Ocean island nation of Comoros yesterday.

It was the second time in less than a month that an Airbus had crashed into the ocean, and immediately there were calls by the EU for a worldwide blacklist of unsafe airlines.

French authorities said the Yemeni carrier had been under surveillance and that problems had been reported with the jet.



A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 12:31:50 PM EST
This great ritual magic mashup documents the origens of the famous moonwalk, and shows that MJ wasn't all that much of an originator.

H/T to my friend Spoonman.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 01:54:32 PM EST
The "moonwalk" as we know it was probably not originally by MJ either:

Jeffrey Daniel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Daniel was the first person to perform "the backslide", physically complicated dance technique, now known as the "moonwalk" on television, during a performance of Shalamar's "A Night to Remember" on, the British music show, Top of the Pops. The song was a hit in 1982, almost a year before Michael Jackson moonwalked for the second time on the Motown 25: Yesterday, Today, Forever television broadcast. Jackson was a big fan in the 1970s of Soul Train. He soon met, learned from, and later hired dancer/choreographers from the Soul Train TV show.[citation needed] Dance partners Geron "Casper" Candidate and Cooley Jackson taught Michael Jackson the moonwalk.

But Micheal Jackson surely brought it to perfection.  Compare:

by Nomad on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 02:06:17 PM EST
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Yes, but the video posted shows the roots of moonwalking, including actual "moonwalking" (not the ones NASA filmed in arizona ;-) ) as far back as the 20's.  Wiki didn't get that one right in the slightest.

Having seen the performance you posted that night in real time, i too was enthralled in a popish way.  But i also knew of the entire history leading to Mr. Bojangles, and as the video i posted shows, you can trace every one of MJ's moves way back in time.

he may well have brought it to perfection for modern audiences with modern beats, but the moves were copied from great performances from previous times and previous beats.

if you're not allowed to have instruments in your slavery, you can always use your feet and leather soles on the hard wood table.  

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 02:47:51 PM EST
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btw, please don't be put off viewing this utube just cuz there's a mention of Jacko.  this video is a short compendium of some great moments of the evolution of black dance on film.  Then try to imagine what happened when the cameras weren't rolling.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:28:17 PM EST
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A train in front of the Weserwind factory where foundations for BARD turbines are being built.

Just on the other side, the 6 Multibrid turbines for the Alpha Ventus project (the first German offshore project):



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 02:42:24 PM EST
J did not have time to meet me this trip to the Bremen environs, and cancelled, but with a visit to the source of the next wave in offshore wind who could blame him?  

I would like to underscore one of J's points, the two three-legged structures in the rear of the train photo are just the foundations for the Bard turbines. just the foundations.

if  any of you ever get into arguments about the job-creation potential of offshore wind (at least in No. Europe) show them these photos and tell them to kiss your ass sweetly. Those factories and yards didn't exist three years ago.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 02:54:29 PM EST
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despite visiting this:

This is an onshore prototype of the "jacket" foundations that will be used offshore, with a Repower 5M turbine on top (300 tons). The foundation is 50meters high; made of the same metal bits used to make pipelines.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:09:56 PM EST
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Have you ever heard a decent explanation of why they call these foundation types "jacket" foundations?

anyone want a job servicing this test turbine in winter, noticing the 50 meters of exposed ladder?  (of course, that would be under water in the real world.)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:30:10 PM EST
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no idea where "jacket" comes from (probably from the North Sea oil industry?)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:42:21 PM EST
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French translation: fondations sur caissons de support

Other types: monopiles, gravity solutions, tripods.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 03:56:01 PM EST
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merci, sven.  btw, all the types you mentioned are used for offshore wind.  in addition to tethered floating (schwimmenden auf Deutsch.)

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:10:45 PM EST
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It was way hot enough today to go schwimmen, but I decided to fix the Briggs & Stratton on the lawnmower instead - before the Triffids could invade the patio.

It's been a funny day - I also had to rewrite a voiceover I'm doing on Friday for a documentary on Kinbaku - the embrace of the rope. As this is a family site I will give no further details ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:20:12 PM EST
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Only ET's Doc Triloqvist would do voiceover on Kinbaku, leaving us to wonder what's showing under the voice.

(deleted photo here)

We now return you to to the regular OT discussion on binding the winds offshore.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:25:21 PM EST
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Japanese bondage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the use of fire, knives, tattoos, boiling water, pheasants, divining blocks and rocking horses[citation needed], etc.

I hope your voice-over copy goes into the etc, too. Pheasants and rocking horses are like, so-o-o-o passé.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 02:55:50 AM EST
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As a pro, what I am really worried about is the correct pronunciation of Japanese terms and names ;-)

But it is an interesting subject, psychologically.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 03:16:51 AM EST
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apparently if you look at the template and footprint of a jacket it is like an envelope protecting the pipes going into the seabed. So they are called jacket as they are sheltering the pipes and risers, not because of their other function of also carrying the platform or anything.

The have all-sorts of funny names on platforms, like Xmastrees. Come across one of those before?

by PeWi on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 06:05:23 PM EST
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But don't you understand that these are not real jobs. Such jobs only exist as govt-enabled initiatives and, as they are underwritten by the taxpayer, they cannot be classed as real jobs.

Only finance or petro-chemicals/nuclear count as real private innovation.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:24:29 PM EST
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the two three-legged structures in the rear of the train photo are just the foundations for the Bard turbines. just the foundations.

Are you sure they aren't alien invasion robots? Now that we disacovered the aliens...



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:45:10 PM EST
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Of course.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:57:14 PM EST
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...and that loco connects nicely to my next diary...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:50:04 PM EST
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Out of curiosity, how many of you have seen the film "Home"?  or know of it?

This incredible French production (Luc Besson produced) makes visual what the data represent on climate change we here discuss and debate.  Simplistic but beautiful.  it's trying to spark a movement, saying we have ten years to change our culture.

But before a discussion, it's important to know whether the meme's spread here.

HOME

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:37:56 PM EST
I should have posted, the entire 93 minute film is available online free, and it's worth viewing the HD version.  Don't want to say more now except a note to Luc Bresson:  "nice way to spend the money, dude."

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:39:53 PM EST
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The money is Pinault's actually.

I'm not sure this counterbalances campaigning for Sarkozy as the owner of quite a few newspapers...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:07:29 PM EST
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As a global village idiot, i didn't know of Pinault's involvement, or even who he is.  But why would the suspected "he" fund this?

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:12:14 PM EST
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Greenwashing ?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:16:43 PM EST
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So it is.  And here's the directore in hollyweird...

Guess success is to enjoy, even if we have only ten years.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 06:10:54 PM EST
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It's a great movie and I linked to it here on ET in a OT a few weeks ago, but nobody reacted except for marco. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:40:59 PM EST
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Leave it to me, thinking i'm a diligent lurker, to have missed your posting. Aber Danke.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:47:02 PM EST
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I think it is worth linking to more than once and maybe now it gets more attention. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:51:36 PM EST
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I sent the link off to lots of people ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:49:32 PM EST
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I see your taco bell green menu and raise you a domino's pizza



A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:45:30 PM EST
As you are well aware from tonight's OT, the world's most concentrated nutritious foodstuff has been discovered in the sewers of Nord Carolina. Sardinian Snail Pizza has nothing on basted sewer sludge.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 04:52:18 PM EST
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A video from here:

by das monde on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:40:25 AM EST
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loved the unrelated bit at the end: "in international news, the equivalent of 5 Americans were killed in a bombing in Afghanistan"...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:09:48 PM EST
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me too

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:12:49 PM EST
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That must be at least 50 afghans.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:16:26 PM EST
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Makes you wonder how many Afghanis equal 5 Americans. 10 ? 50 ? ..higher ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:17:55 PM EST
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An American once told me to my face 3 billion people might just be enough deaths to make up for the 3 thousand from 9/11...

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:19:23 PM EST
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Congratulations to Senator-Elect Al Franken.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:00:39 PM EST
Now they no longer have the filibuster excuse. They're going to have to be creatie to justify their non-efforts...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:10:43 PM EST
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[System.Is.Broken Alert]

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:13:39 PM EST
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The Dems can always find an excuse.

But that's tomorrow.  Today's Al's day.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:43:47 PM EST
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F I N A L L Y

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:13:30 PM EST
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You know, if I were Norm Coleman, who is now the only politician in American history to lose to both a professional wrestler and a professional comedian, I think I'd be just about ready to hang it up.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:16:17 PM EST
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Don't forget that to get into the senate he needed Wellstone's death and the media's subsequent right-leaning treatment of the memorial service in order to then defeat zombie Mondale.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:23:57 AM EST
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Krugman blog: A thought about macroeconomics (June 26, 2009)
And as I pointed out a long time ago, many economists just don't know this stuff. Even in macroeconomics, you could build a career without ever understanding what Keynes and Hicks were driving at -- and if you're under a certain age, perhaps without even ever having heard about it. Arguments like "deficits drive up interest rates and that's contractionary" basically have the feel of someone who doesn't have any sense of how the pieces fit together -- probably because they don't.
So, I followed the link to

Krugman: THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MACRO

Here's the problem: Macro I (that's 14.451 in MIT lingo) is a quarter course, which is supposed to cover the "workhorse" models of the field - the standard approaches that everyone is supposed to know, the models that underlie discussion at, say, the Fed, Treasury, and the IMF. In particular, it is supposed to provide an overview of such items as the IS-LM model of monetary and fiscal policy, the AS-AD approach to short-run versus long-run analysis, and so on. By the standards of modern macro theory, this is crude and simplistic stuff, so you might think that any trained macroeconomist could teach it. But it turns out that that isn't true.

You see, younger macroeconomists - say, those under 40 or so - by and large don't know this stuff. Their teachers regarded such constructs as the IS-LM model as too ad hoc, too simplistic, even to be worth teaching - after all, they could not serve as the basis for a dissertation. Now our younger macro people are certainly very smart, and could learn the material in order to teach it - but they would find it strange, even repugnant. So in order to teach this course MIT has relied, for as long as I can remember, on economists who learned old-fashioned macro before it came to be regarded with contempt. For a variety of reasons, however, we can't turn to the usual suspects this year: Stan Fischer has left to run the world, Rudi Dornbusch is otherwise occupied, Olivier Blanchard is department head, Ricardo Caballero - who is a bit young for the role, but can swallow his distaste if necessary - is on leave. All of which leaves me.

...

Why does the old-fashioned stuff persist in this way? I don't think the answer is intellectual conservatism. Economists, in fact, are in general neophiles, always looking for something radical and different. Anyway, I have seen over and over again how young economists, trained to regard IS-LM and all that with contempt if they even know what it is, find themselves turning to it after a few years in Washington or New York. There's something about primeval macro that pulls us back to it; if Hicks hadn't invented IS-LM in 1937, we would end up inventing it all over again.

But what is it that makes old-fashioned macro so compelling? To answer that question, I find it helpful to think about where it came from in the first place.

...

Sixty years on, the intellectual problems with doing macro this way are well known. First of all, the idea of treating money as an ordinary good begs many questions: surely money plays a special sort of role in the economy. Second, almost all the decisions that presumably underlie the schedules here involve choices over time: this is true of investment, consumption, even money demand. So there is something not quite right about pretending that prices and interest rates are determined by a static equilibrium problem. (Of course, Hicks knew about that, and was quite self-conscious about the limitations of his "temporary equilibrium" method). Finally, sticky prices play a crucial role in converting this into a theory of real economic fluctuations; while I regard the evidence for such stickiness as overwhelming, the assumption of at least temporarily rigid nominal prices is one of those things that works beautifully in practice but very badly in theory.

But step back from the controversies, and put yourself in the position of someone who must reach a judgement about the likely impact of a change in monetary policy, or an investment slump, or a fiscal expansion. It would be cumbersome to try, every time, to write out an intertemporal-maximization framework, with microfoundations for money and price behavior, and try to map that into the limited data available. Surely you will find yourself trying to keep track of as few things as possible, to devise a working model - a scratchpad for your thoughts - that respects the essential adding-up constraints, that represents the motives and behavior of individuals in a sensible way, yet has no superfluous moving parts. And that is what the quasi-static, goods-bonds-money model is - and that is why old-fashioned macro, which is basically about that model, remains so useful a tool for practical policy analysis.




A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:15:35 PM EST
Well, folks, all who have fawned tenderly over the love affair between Cozzolino and Noemi are in for a heart wrench. Cozzolino has admitted the whole thing was staged- as if we hadn't figured that out from the start.

But it's ok, he got a clean conscious, and has national front page scoops under his belt, money and fame courtesy the house organ!

He just figured things were getting a bit sinister recently.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:18:39 PM EST
Will his apartment be burgled? Will he lose his job?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:20:05 PM EST
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Mi volevano allontanare, so troppe cose". Non ha paura delle reazioni della ragazza, nè della famiglia. "Non mi interessa, ho la coscienza a posto. Finchè era un gioco sì, ma ora si stava iniziando ad andare oltre".
"I wanted to get away, I know too much". He's not afraid of the girl's reaction, nor of her family's. "I'm not interested, I have a clean conscience. As long as it was a game yes, but now it was beginning to go farther".
Weird...

He claims it was her idea "though someone may have encouraged her".

What a story...

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:24:33 PM EST
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Thanks, Migeru. I've got my writing hand all wrapped up and am having a terrible time negotiating the keyboard. I never learned how to write with two fingers. It's all ten or nothing.

Dumb accident.
 

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 05:33:51 PM EST
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Wait, mi volevano allontanare means they wanted to push me away, not I wanted to get away. The correct translation is truly sinister...

Never translate after hours!

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 02:45:02 AM EST
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Escaped my attention! The connotation is "They wanted me out of the way."

The full article has now been enriched with a declaration by Noemi revealed by a Facebook friend. Noemi wrote that Cozzolini and her were to carry on the charade until election day, June 6th.

Once the votes were in, Cozzolini was of no further use and was dumped. B's primary concern was damage control during elections by distracting the lazy voter from the core issue: Berlusconi messes around with minors.

The whole affair here betrays a certain improvisation and reveals the core concern of losing consensus. Now that the elections are over, it doesn't matter. The machine is back and running with the repetitio ad nauseum that B is loved by the entire galaxy. He'd do himself a favour by reducing his cocktails- or coketails.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 05:49:54 AM EST
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Hello all.

Comment tree view (the little arrows to collapse/expand the comment threads) no longer work for me, since a couple of days. Haven't changed anything to my profile or my firefox. My stupid organization may have made stupid changes to the proxy/firewalls though. But no site other than Eurotrib has changed in any way recently.

Anyone seen the same problem ?

Pierre

by Pierre on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 09:18:00 AM EST


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