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Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 09:56:39 AM EST

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From dKos Abbreviated pundit roundup.


Adam Ross:

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced today that the United States will set aside billions of dollars to pursue a vaccine for H1N1, commonly referred to as swine flu.

The Obama administration has officially overreacted.

First comment on WaPo site:

Let me guess.

The WaPo editorial writers would rather US tax dollars be spent bombing Iran than defending America, right?

Seriously, are you all brain dead - or were you just dropped on your head as children?



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:31:00 AM EST
At least WAPO published the comment.  Timesonline doesn't publish any comments critical of timesonline - at least it doesn't publish mine anymore anyway - so perhaps they have me in their spam filter sights

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:09:44 AM EST
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I can sort of understand honorary degrees being given to people whose life experience and contribution to society is worthy of recognition but this...?

Prince William Becomes an Honorary Barrister

The trainee RAF helicopter pilot is more used to planning sorties and checking weather forecasts than legal argument.

But in the ceremony on Monday at London's Middle Temple the Prince was not only called to the Bar - to be made a honorary barrister - but called to the Bench, the Inn's governing body.



Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:40:45 AM EST
The Royal Family do love them some regalia.

I saw Charles at some military thing recently and he had more medals and ribbons he looked like some tinpot potentate from a god forsaken 3rd world country. There's almost an inverse relaitonship between the seriouslness of a Country's leader and the number of military decorations they wear. And the British Royal family certainly won't be found wanting in the bauble area.

It's all they're fit for, taking part in ceremonies and wearing uniforms for various bits and bobs of official business. It allows more serious people like Brown to actually conduct the business of Govt without interruption   {Hey. Wait a minute...}

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:46:53 AM EST
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If it was Harry, I'd say it was just an atempt to cover him with enough decorations so there wasn't room for a swastika armband.

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:57:12 AM EST
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It's a way for the "Middle Temple" to ask Prince William whether he'll be their friend.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:58:26 AM EST
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What does being their friend involve?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:03:45 AM EST
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In the Masons
You can live a life of ease
In the Masons
Roll your trousers past your knees

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:10:22 AM EST
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wondered if there was a longer version of that. and guess where google links to already....

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:26:42 AM EST
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hahahahahahahaha

It's a Steve Bell original

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:33:09 AM EST
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Should have guessed

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 01:54:51 PM EST
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Well it is the King's Inns isn't it?

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:11:14 AM EST
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keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:58:20 AM EST
What happened to the loooooooooooooooooooong diary published last night?  Someone was reading it and I was awaiting an opinion before diving it...

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:18:56 AM EST
It is also posted on approximately a thousand other sites on the interwebs.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:21:12 AM EST
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programmatically??

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:23:58 AM EST
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Deleted as spam, along with two others. Driving traffic towards sales of a "book".

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:41:45 AM EST
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Times - Matthew Parris - In the fog, remember: victory is impossible in Afghanistan

It's important not to understand. It's important not to learn. In the total buggeration into which the world's help for Afghanistan has now descended, it's important not to know too much. Accept that somebody some day may understand, but it isn't going to be you. Somebody some day may grab the Gordian knot and cut it, but it isn't going to be us. Know only that. To know more is to know less.

It so happens that my week as Nato/Isaf's guest here in Afghanistan has coincided with some big stories coming out of the country. There are battles; there are kidnappings; there came sad news of the deaths of Lieutenant-Colonel Rupert Thorneloe and Trooper Joshua Hammond. There's a presidential election campaign under way. But my argument is that news like this is a distraction from the underlying story. The battle will ebb and flow. But victory is impossible.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:30:24 AM EST
I do recommend you read the whole article. I've read few more sober and clear eyed denunciations of the policy than this.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:38:52 AM EST
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The FBI is bringing in specialists who investigated the mass graves in Serbia to investigate a cemetery crime here in the area:

Chicago Sun Times: 4 charged with digging up, dumping bodies at Burr Oak Cemetery

...four workers at historic Burr Oak Cemetery in Alsip plundered them, smashing open the concrete liners and hauling away the human remains inside to a weedy dump site, Cook County investigators say.
If bones clattered off the dump truck along the way, they were left on the side of the cemetery roads, investigators say.

As many as 300 bodies were unearthed and dumped in a mass grave as part of a scam that netted the workers about $300,000, authorities said Thursday.

The empty graves were resold to unsuspecting families for cash -- off the books, authorities said..

Sheriff Tom Dart said the scam took place over at least four years. The human remains in the mass grave -- in the northwest corner of the cemetery -- are so hard to identify that the sheriff's office has brought in 30 to 40 FBI experts -- some of whom have scoured mass graves in Serbia and other parts of the world.

Dart said the process of trying to identify the bodies will be similar to work done at Ground Zero following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

.... Mahoney said Towns took cash from families who came to the cemetery seeking to bury loved ones. She allegedly drew up paperwork on the new burials, and then destroyed it so there would be no record. Towns then pocketed the cash and paid off the other three defendants, Mahoney said.

Towns would then tell the three workers to exhume human remains from existing graves and put them in the mass grave, Mahoney said. Employees allegedly excavated entire burial sites -- including the concrete vault that surrounds the coffin. The caskets and headstones were often smashed, officials said.

The workers sought out older, unmarked graves that hadn't been visited in a while, Dart spokesman Steve Patterson said. One was that of a baby who died in 1946, Patterson said. The headstone was smashed to pieces.

New bodies were then buried in the old plots, Mahoney said. Authorities also said some old bodies were pounded into the ground, with new bodies "double-stacked'' atop them.

The sheriff's office discovered, in plain sight, a jawbone with teeth along with 29 other bones in the mass grave -- an unkempt grassy area, prosecutors said.

One employee told prosecutors he saw skulls and rib bones strewn around the area.

"There are a lot of remains scattered around," Dart said. "This was not a surgical effort. ... They were dug up with backhoes and discarded."




"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:34:44 AM EST
Too funny "market-will-provide", law-of-large-numbers wedding event.

Introducing SEC data guy. H/she mines the universe of XBRL-formatted filings in order to represent um aggregate claims of financial performance ...

[June] The problem for XBRL advocates is that "transparency" cuts a number of ways. Is XBRL better than the current publicly available data scraped from HTML filings? Sure. But it's hard to research the current problems. XBRL is easy. I can check XBRL data for technical errors in about a minute (download the data, zip it, upload it to a publicly available validation tool, see results).

regardless of a company's characteristics or industry (NIC) assignment...

[July] Below is a graph that shows the total number of distinct entities filing a 10-K or 10-Q over time. It also shows the number of distinct entities expressing "substantial doubt" for the first time in one of those filings (full details on the data below the jump).

so far. Useful, no?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:43:02 AM EST
I wrote about XBRL at ET a year ago - but it didn't get much traction with the Gnomes ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:45:59 AM EST
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Yes, I remembered :)

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by MarketTrustee on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 12:21:40 PM EST
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OLD GM, NEW!GM:Bad Bank, Good Bank | NYT | 9 July 2009

While Friday marked the first day of the new G.M., many unanswered questions remain. ...

He also said that the government's involvement at G.M. would change immediately from day-to-day supervision to a more hands-off attitude, but as the company's biggest shareholder, the Treasury's role is far from over. ...

G.M.'s new chairman, Edward E. ["I don't know anything about cars"] Whitacre Jr., in his first public comments since joining the carmaker, said he agreed to join G.M. because he had "always admired this company. "Mr. Whitacre, the former chairman and chief executive of AT&T, said [NEW!]G.M. had the "fundamentals" to succeed, having shed the debt that was weighing it down....

G.M. and the government completed the legal paperwork needed to put the company's most desirable assets, including brands like Chevrolet, Cadillac and GMC, into the new company -- now named the Vehicle Acquisition Company but soon to be renamed the General Motors Company. The federal government will hold nearly 61 percent of the new company, with the Canadian government, a health care trust [VEBA] for the United Auto Workers union and bondholders owning the balance....

Senior administration officials have promised that they will not "micromanage" the company, despite being the majority owner and having already picked new directors, including Mr. Whitacre. By the end of the year, the government will have poured $50 billion of taxpayer money into the automaker.

The administration hopes to take the new G.M. public again next year.

NOTE: The lede has been edited since CR posted at 08:53 EST to read,

"The carmaker General Motors began a new era for itself Friday, with its chief executive pronouncing the end of "business as usual" and promising to focus on its customers and vehicles more than ever before."

It had been, "General Motors completed a major step in its turnaround on Friday and closed the sale of its good assets to a new, government-backed carmaker,"

reminding me how many times AIG needed to correct the facts of its 8Ks last year, reporting transactions with federal agencies. I wonder if SEC data guy operates a version tracker...

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 12:17:29 PM EST
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Kadyrov: Western Agents Drugging Chechen Youth to Turn Them Against Russia

"We have information from a captured militant that they are given some kind of tablets, and that after taking them, a person comes to resemble a robot, and is in a daze," Kadyrov said. "They get these tablets from abroad and give them to young people. These are excellently trained workers of Western special services, who are working against the Russian Federation. They are using us, knowing our mentality, knowing that a majority of us are Muslims. They have good supplies and specialists. All of the foreign special services workers are operating against Russia. And the people of Russia accuse us. They think that a war is still going on here, that Chechens are bandits and terrorists. But Chechens are dying while protecting Russia's [territorial] integrity. Hundreds of thousands died here, thousands of people disappeared without a trace, thousands of police died in battle" (www.izvestia.ru, July 7).

Right up there with Zhirinovsky's claim that the Spanish football team beat Russia using mind control technology.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:53:35 AM EST
Zep's Bobby gonged by PoW (as Variety might have captioned it)

I am sure I'll be torn apart for such incorrectness, but the picture in this article, not reproduced here for reasons of mysteriousness, is of two people who I admire, but never expected to see in the same frame.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 11:55:55 AM EST
'sblood, Plant and Pagey have gongs !!

The PoW looks suprisingly youthful in that picture while Plant looks like he's the picture in the loft. He'll be gurning next. Cripes.

Sadly, I think the PoW is a preposterous person, a bumptious fop, an intellectual ninny whose limitations have never been exposed by those whose careers depend on his good favour.

He's the worst candidate for Head of State I can imagine, apart from all the others.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 12:59:00 PM EST
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Aaaah.          I've just noticed the "...I quite admire the ... PoW" in your post. Errr,. No he does a good job really. what do you think ? {cheesy guilty grin}

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 01:12:30 PM EST
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hahahaha

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 01:59:22 PM EST
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It would take some detail to explain, but basically I think he is a decent person and I fully support his very public warnings about climate change. I don't want to argue about this ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:40:32 PM EST
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Then again:

(For those who haven't seen this before, the link becomes obvious towards the end.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:48:34 PM EST
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Forbidden to us Finns - I'll try to track back...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:51:58 PM EST
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And to Italians.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:52:42 PM EST
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And to Americans.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:56:44 PM EST
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Nope, YT doesn't like it however you search

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:54:22 PM EST
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So the rest of the world can't view the UK's Olympic handover ceremony at Beijing?

International FAIL.

I found some torrent versions in full broadcast HD, but at 1.4GB I'm guessing the enthusiasm for viewing this clip may not be there.

Which is a shame. I guess.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:03:00 PM EST
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Also FAILs from Spain.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:10:25 PM EST
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Less fail?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 05:27:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
more fail.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 05:29:24 PM EST
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(sigh...)
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 05:38:32 PM EST
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Swede-fail...

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Jul 11th, 2009 at 12:01:12 PM EST
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Finn Fail (not to be confused with the Irish political party)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jul 11th, 2009 at 12:15:05 PM EST
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The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:26:31 PM EST
Why is that for me?  Gah.

And what's up with the Russian videos?  Someone just sent me the censored cut of Southpark where the kids call Putin to ask for his help sending a giant whale to the moon.


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:35:42 PM EST
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What did Obama and Burlesconi do to the Government Palace?

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:32:14 PM EST
Hey, I just posted this in the Salon!!!!
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:33:09 PM EST
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I have no shame.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:35:16 PM EST
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Wow, some party, Si baby.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:34:24 PM EST
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Here is the link to the full picture story I posted in the Salon.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:42:30 PM EST
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Who likes signing drummers. One of my heroes on letterman last night.
"Somebody call the cops!"

Thank gopod for all the private time i've had with him. Life-long consistancy rules.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 02:58:27 PM EST
Thank you, kind sir.

To keep yourself young, work with younger people. Even the soprano sax player ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:18:20 PM EST
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Bet you didn't notice daughter Amy on mandolin and back-up vocals. She sang lead after his throat cancer surgery when he could barely talk (although the after show stories were endless.)

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:38:13 PM EST
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I did not, and BTW I don't expect any support from my daughter when I make my comeback...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:42:44 PM EST
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Just go and Paint That Masterpiece, Sven.



Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:51:43 PM EST
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Here's my favorite version 30 YEARS LATER!

Dylan's Yurpeen Experience.  "Oh to be back in the land of Coca-Cola"

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:58:18 PM EST
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see your Band, and raise you Wigwam.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:09:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]


You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:10:51 PM EST
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i'll just call by sending you back to the original Levon post, i'm standing by that hand.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:49:57 PM EST
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BTW I've signed quite a few drummers in my time. (as you know)



You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:21:43 PM EST
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Ofcourse, my dyslexia meant singing drummers.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:33:33 PM EST
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Of course - but you'll notice that the drummer isn't that fluent in English either. We wrote the lyrics out for him phonetically - which he then promptly forgot, but came out with such wonderful phrases as 'Got to be a scoogie in the neighbourhood'

The name of the band 'Hurriganes' has a 'g', because, in the immortal words of the late bassist, it was more 'texas'.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 03:45:48 PM EST
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Channeling my time as "scroogie in the neighborhood" no doubt.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:01:23 PM EST
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Jerome, I hear Misha says he wants to go into "green energy" when he gets out of the gulag.  You should go into business with him!  ;)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 05:28:44 PM EST


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