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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:50:36 AM EST
France 24 | India is France's guest of honour on national day | France 24
France celebrates Bastille Day Tuesday with a grand military parade down Paris's majestic Champs Elysees, joined by a detachment of Indian troops. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is the guest of honour this year.

France celebrates Bastille Day Tuesday with a massive military parade down Paris's majestic Champs Elysee followed by concerts, fireworks and garden parties as the country marks the 1789 storming of the infamous Bastille prison that marked the start of the French Revolution.


The main feature of the day is a huge military parade involving 5,000 men, about 300 military vehicles, 83 motorbikes, 280 horses, 68 planes and 37 helicopters, according to French officials. The parade moves down the Champs Elysees, from the capital's landmark Arc de Triomphe to Place de la Concorde.


Security is tight across Paris, with nearly 10,000 policemen and gendarmes spread around the city's landmark sites, including the Eiffel Tower, where French rock hero Johnny Halliday will perform at a public concert later Tuesday.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:53:54 AM EST
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France 24 | 317 cars burned ahead of Bastille Day | France 24
The night ahead of France's national day was marked by widespread vandalism as 317 cars were burned across the country, a slight increase over the same period last year, according to the police.

AFP - French youths burned 317 cars and wounded 13 police officers overnight during the now traditional bout of street violence on the eve of the Bastille Day national holiday, police said Tuesday.
  
As French troops and their guests of honour from the Indian army made last minute preparations for the July 14 parade on the Champs Elysees in Paris, the suburbs of major cities were contemplating another clean-up operation.
  
By 6:00 am (0400 GMT), police headquarters in Paris had recorded 317 burnt out cars -- up 6.7 percent on 2008 -- and 240 arrests, almost double the total for the same period last year.
  
These numbers were expected to increase as fresh reports came in.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:54:15 AM EST
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French youths burned 317 cars and wounded 13 police officers overnight during the now traditional bout of street violence on the eve of the Bastille Day

IOW they celebrated in style.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:53:14 PM EST
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If your car is set on fire do you qualify for a government-reimbursement or some kind of "stimulus" check to buy a new Renault?
by paving on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:38:33 AM EST
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Only if you are insured with a French based agency?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:14:38 AM EST
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French president should ban turban worn by Indian PM as it's not allowed in French official institutions and French national holiday is undoubtedly state-run function.
by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:41:52 AM EST
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Hi, FE, hope you're well.

LOL! Perhaps, if France is so very offensive to Sikhs, the Indian PM should have declined the invitation? Yet he and all the Indians participating yesterday looked extremely happy to be in Paris. (As they should be: nice weather, they put on a fine parade, they were applauded and made welcome).

The turban, by the way, is forbidden to schoolboys in state schools, nowhere else.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:54:00 AM EST
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Perhaps, if France is so very offensive to Sikhs, the Indian PM should have declined the invitation?

(I indeed found criticisms of him on Sikh action group pages.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:18:46 PM EST
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Yes indeed in Punjab there were many calls to decline invitation but Indian PM represents whole 1 bln 150 mln people of India and not only Sikhs.

Secondly why it was not declined - because India does not want unnecessary problems with her elevation to UN SC where France enjoys undue influence of veto-wielding member.

But it could much better if French politicians finally woke up to reality and realized their real place in the world.  

by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:05:45 AM EST
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European firms launch huge African solar power project | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 13.07.2009
Twelve European companies on Monday signed a deal for a 400-billion-euro ($560 billion) project to build solar farms in Africa and the Middle East to produce energy for Europe. 

The companies, which include leading German energy giants RWE and E.ON, electro-engineering group Siemens, and major insurer Munich Re, signed an agreement in Munich on Monday.

"Today we have taken a step forward (towards the project's realization)," said Nikolaus von Bomhard, head of Munich Re, which hosted the signing.

The firms grouped under The Desertec Industrial Initiative (DII) plan to build solar power generators in North Africa and the Middle East which could provide up to 15 percent of Europe's electricity needs by 2050.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:55:13 AM EST
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It's a great project. Are there any downsides cos I can't think of too many ?

ps Where are the panels being made ? Has local manufacturing been considered ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:33:46 PM EST
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Only that the project won't be realised...

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:35:44 AM EST
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See Solar power from the Sahara? (updated) by whataboutbob.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:54:20 PM EST
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Government split puts Iceland's fast-track EU membership on hold | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 13.07.2009
Lawmakers in the Icelandic parliament, the Althingi, reconvened a marathon debate on Monday to decide if the Reykjavik government should formally apply for membership of the European Union.  

Iceland's wish to join the European Union received a setback on Sunday when five Green party members sided with the conservative opposition to block a resolution giving approval to the government proposal. The Greens have hinged their support on the coalition government giving the green light to a national referendum on EU membership.

Social Democrat Prime Minister Jóhanna Sigurdardóttir is opposed to idea of a referendum delaying accession talks and wants a quick vote so she can deliver Iceland's application on July 27 when Sweden's Foreign Minister Össur Skarphédinsson will be hosting a meeting of the Council of Ministers.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:55:29 AM EST
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Why the fear of a referendum?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:55:19 PM EST
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by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:00:44 PM EST
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I hear Fish is the next big thing ...  Peak fish.  I'm serious.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:06:33 PM EST
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We're long past peak fish. As in, free-swimming saltwater fish. As Mr. Diamond points out in his Collapse book (I should buy a copy to keep for reference), stocks of large meat eating fish (as in, tuna, halibut, salmon) commonly get depleted by over 75% within a few years of the start of industrial fishing.

The question is whether enough fishery stocks can survive at a level that allows them to recover before global warming does them in and causes a radical shift in the entire ocean ecosystem.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:15:08 PM EST
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Plus, this will hit the world's poorest hardest. That's the usual story with climate change, but... also Russia.

New Study First To Identify National Economies That Are Likely To Suffer Most As Climate Change Imperils Fisheries

With climate change threatening to ruin ocean reefs, push salt water into freshwater habitats and produce more coastal storms, millions of struggling people in fishery-dependent nations of Africa, Asia and South America could face unprecedented hardship, according to a new study published today in the February issue of the peer-reviewed journal Fish and Fisheries. The study by a team of scientists at The WorldFish Center, the University of East Anglia, Simon Fraser University, the Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science, the University of Bremen, and the Mekong River Commission is the first to identify individual nations that are "highly vulnerable" to the impact of climate change on fisheries. WorldFish is one of 15 centers supported by the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research (CGIAR).

New findings on climate change and fisheries

The disturbing results demonstrate for the first time:

  • There will be a large-scale re-distribution of species, with most moving towards the Pole
  • On average, fish are likely to shift their distribution by more than 40km per decade and there will be an increasing abundance of more southern species
  • Developing countries in the tropics will suffer the biggest loss in catch
  • [...]
  • The invasion and local extinction of species may disrupt marine ecosystems and biodiversity

"Our research shows that the impact of climate change on marine biodiversity and fisheries is going to be huge," said Dr Cheung. "We must act now to adapt our fisheries management and conservation policies to minimise harm to marine life and to our society.

And that's from a quantitative model, which could be optimistic. Or pessimistic. Still, there's a large potential for [nanne's Crystal Ball of Doom™ Technology] here.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 06:06:17 PM EST
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there was an interesting programme on Radio 4 today that suggests the CAP fisheries policy is ripe for overhaul as all parties now realise it isn't working at all.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:13:07 PM EST
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Fisheries is one of the few areas which would profit from privatizations and which haven't actually gotten them.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:37:32 AM EST
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Huh? Explain?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:39:20 AM EST
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A good system would be to have the state (or the EU, whatever) decide on an annual fishing quota and then auction out fishing rights.

Another idea would be to let people/companies/organisations lease large areas where they had a fishing monopoly. Then they would have an incentive to maintain strong populations to secure big future catches which only they would have access to. As fishes move around, these areas would need to be very big.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:44:30 AM EST
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How do you monitor fishing quotas?

The lease idea wouldn't work because the usual Market Bollocks would reward short term performance over long term husbandry, and strip-fishing would earn more than long term fish management.

Once the owners run out of fish, they can always move to something else, like blowing the tops off mountains for coal.

The fact that the fish would remain extinct wouldn't be a problem for them.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:32:22 AM EST
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Ocean fish are a typical open access resource, restricting access to this resource through some kind of market system has prohibitive costs. We have experimented with quotas, but they don't work.

The most, and may be the only practiceable point for control is the ship (e.g. the number, size and technology allowed). This calls for traditional command and control policy.

We should be shredding a lot of the larger ships.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:49:06 PM EST
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European Parliament to elect first president from ex-communist east | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 14.07.2009
The European Parliament is set to elect its new president, and former Polish Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek has already won backing from the powerful conservative and social democrat parliamentary groups for the post. 

The election of the new president is to be among the parliament's first tasks as it begins its own new five-year term in Strasbourg.

The liberal-conservative Buzek, who has been a member of European parliament for five years and sits on the committee for industry, research and energy, would be the parliament's first president from the former-communist east. His election is believed to be now just a formality.

The move is said to reflect the growing influence of the EU's new member states from Central and Eastern Europe.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:58:22 AM EST
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Methinks it reflects the growing influence of the EP center-right, but that's me.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:56:52 PM EST
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Second term is going to be Schulz, unless he gets his wish of following up on Verheugen (and it would be highly improbable for the German Commissioner not to go the CDU).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:05:00 PM EST
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More than a Customs Dispute: Will EU Penalize Exports from Israeli Settlements? - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

s Europe really willing to express its aversion to Israeli settlements in the West Bank by slapping customs duties on products made in them? A tax court in Hamburg might soon provide an answer to this touchy issue.

The Israeli settlement known as Maale Adumim sits fortress-like atop a red stone plateau. In the Bible, the road to the plateau was known as the "steep red road."

Yossi Zamir

The Soda-Club factory in the Isreali settlement of Maale Adumim is the center of a storm that is about more than just customs duties. As the largest Israeli settlement in the Palestinian-administered areas of the West Bank, Maale Adumim is home to 40,000 people. Bulldozers are clearing lots for new houses on its outskirts. Its population is growing by the week and, in recent years, it has grown faster than any other settlement.

On the edge of the settlement's industrial zone, there is a factory operated by a company called Soda-Club. The steel gate is painted blue and green to match the company's curvy, modern-looking logo. A camera records the movements of anyone approaching the gate. The plant produces tabletop devices that add carbonation to flat water, like the ones used in many German kitchens. And for those who prefer a sweeter taste, there's also syrup coming out of Maale Adumim.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:59:11 AM EST
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FT.com / Europe - Iraq offers half gas needed for Nabucco
Iraq has offered to supply enough gas to fill half the capacity of the proposed Nabucco pipeline, the prime minister said, giving the project a boost even as heads of government met to sign a historic agreement approving the plan.

The offer from the Iraqi government to supply 15bn cubic metres a year of gas by 2015 helps address the greatest obstacle to the 3,300km pipeline from eastern Turkey to Austria: the prospect of there not being enough gas to fill it.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:18:19 PM EST
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Except that the Iraqi government's capacity to make good on the promise is doubtful, to say the least.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:22:58 PM EST
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certainly brings the situation in Kirkuk into sharp focus.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:38:17 PM EST
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Spanish nobles rebel over inheritance law


A group of grandees and other nobles have rebelled against a recent change in Spain's law which prevents a son from claiming the family title if he has an elder sister. They are demanding that the country's constitutional court strike the law down, as it may allow some women to claim titles retroactively from brothers or uncles who currently hold them.

They claim the law was tailor-made to suit a group of powerful women, including the designer Agatha Ruiz de la Prada, who claimed titles held by male relatives. Ruiz de la Prada claims the title of Marquess of Castelldosrius from an uncle who received it from his elder brother - skipping Ruiz de La Prada's now deceased mother.

"The law should not be retroactive. There will be fights in all the noble families because of this," said Miguel Temboury of the Spanish Nobles Association, a recently created conservative faction within Spain's 2,500-strong nobility.

That last bit is a bonus reason to support this law.

by paving on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 08:49:23 PM EST
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Bwahahaha.

What practical value is there to noble titles in Spain?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 01:30:48 AM EST
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You can get away with things normal people can't? A friend of mine in Munich had a neighbour who painted her rented apartment purple. She thought the landlord let her get away with this because of the "Gräfin" in front of her name...

It probably also helps in making restaurant reservations. Anything else?

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 01:40:51 AM EST
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None, but if you are born/socialised into the appropriate social network you will care because your status depends partly on that.

I am not sure such a law can be made retroactive.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:05:15 AM EST
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None,

So, why is it regulated?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:28:34 AM EST
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Inheritance law?

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:41:17 AM EST
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Inheritance of titles, or of belongings?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:58:33 AM EST
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Spanish nobles rebel over inheritance law | World news | The Guardian

The grandees have also tried to drag King Juan Carlos into the row. "We beg your attention and understanding in finding a solution that will resolve the violation perpetrated on us," they wrote to him. The rebels see the fact that male primogeniture survives in the royal family, regardless of the fact that the current king's oldest child is a daughter, as one reason for striking down the law.

"We feel the monarchy and the nobility should go hand-in-hand," said Mr Temboury. At a tense meeting of the Disputation of Grandees, as the official club for Spanish nobles is known, King Juan Carlos made it clear that he did not back the rebels. "The new regulations for noble titles should make you look to the future," he said in a letter to those congregated there in March.

King Juan Carlos's heir, Prince Felipe, has two daughters. The Spanish constitution would have to be changed if a son were born to allow the elder daughter to inherit the crown.

Let's see.

The Spanish Constitution "protects" certain sections (including the one on fundamental right and freedoms, and the chapter on the Crown) by 1) requiring a strong supermajority to reform them; 2) triggering a constitutional convention if "the principle of the reform" is approved by the Parliament. In other words, suppose Spain wanted to become a Republic and the Congress and Senate voted in favour of the proposed Constitutional reform by ample majorities. This would trigger a dissolution of the Parliament, and elections to a Constituent Parliament which would draft a new Constitution. This is eminiently sensible if you're going to change the form of the State. But now, the inheritance of the Crown is codified in the Constitution (also eminently sensible since Spain had 3 civil wars in the 19th century over a dynastic dispute involving... you guessed it, whether women could acceed to the Crown). Which means that removing the gender discrimination in royal succession (something everyone in Parliament agrees to) would trigger Constitutional Elections. Of course the new Constituent Parliament could just approve the exact same Constitution we have now, with amendments, but the fear is that it would not happen as the Spanish polity is more fractious now than in 1977 (less political violence on the streets, but more fractious nonetheless) and bad things would occur if the whole constitution were up for grabs.

So these male nobles who want to tie their inheritance to the Crown's are just obfuscating. The Spanish Constitution makes no mention of nobility titles: they are considered a matter for civil or even personal law.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:40:37 AM EST
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Ley 33/2006, de 30 de octubre, sobre igualdad del hombre y la mujer en el orden de sucesión de los títulos nobiliarios.Ley 33/2006 of 30 October, on the equality of men and women in the succession order of nobility titles.
Juan Carlos I,
Rey de España
Juan Carlos I
King of Spain
A todos los que la presente vieren y entendieren. Sabed:
Que las Cortes Generales han aprobado y Yo vengo en sancionar la siguiente Ley.
To all who would see and understand this.
Know:
That the Parliament has approved and I come to assent to the following law.

I'm just translating this because I find it picturesque...

EXPOSICIÓN DE MOTIVOSExposition of motives
Actualmente la posesión de un título nobiliario no otorga ningún estatuto de privilegio, al tratarse de una distinción meramente honorífica cuyo contenido se agota en el derecho a usarlo y a protegerlo frente a terceros.At present the possession of a nobility title does not give any privileged status, being a merely honorary distinction whose content extends only to the right to use it and protect it from third persons.

A nobility title is not unlike a trademark, then. Now, why is this regulated?

En la concesión de dignidades nobiliarias de carácter perpetuo, a su naturaleza honorífica hay que añadir la finalidad de mantener vivo el recuerdo histórico al que se debe su otorgamiento, razón por la cual la sucesión en el título queda vinculada a las personas que pertenezcan al linaje del beneficiario de la merced. Este valor puramente simbólico es el que justifica que los títulos nobiliarios perpetuos subsistan en la actual sociedad democrática, regida por el principio de igualdad de todos los ciudadanos ante la Ley.In the concession of nobility honours in perpetuity, apart from the honorary nature one must add the goal of keeping alive the historical memory which caused the award, the reason for which the succession to the title is tied to the people belonging to the lineage of the recipient of the honour. This purely symbolic value is what justifies that nobility titles in perpetuity subsist in the current democratic society, ruled by the principle of equality of all citizens before the law.

Okay? We keep nobility titles because there is no reason to go through the trouble of abolishing them. But they are purely honorary and equality before the law is supreme.

Sin embargo, las normas que regulan la sucesión en los títulos nobiliarios proceden de la época histórica en que la nobleza titulada se consolidó como un estamento social privilegiado, y contienen reglas como el principio de masculinidad o preferencia del varón sin duda ajustadas a los valores del antiguo régimen, pero incompatibles con la sociedad actual en la cual las mujeres participan plenamente en la vida política, económica, cultural y social.However, the norms regulating succession in nobility titles come from a historical time when titled nobility was consilidated as a socially privileged social stratum, and they contain rules such as the principle of masculinity or preference of the male no doubt adjusted to the values of the old regime, but incompatible with the current society in which women take full part in political, economic, cultural and social life.
......
DISPOSICIÓN TRANSITORIA ÚNICA.Single transitional provision
En la aplicación de la presente Ley a los títulos nobiliarios concedidos antes de su vigencia se observarán las siguientes normas:In application of the current law to nobility titles awarded before this law came into force, the following norms shall be observed:
  1. Las transmisiones del título ya acaecidas no se reputarán inválidas por el hecho de haberse realizado al amparo de la legislación anterior.
  1. Transmissions which took place already will not be considered invalid because they were made under the previous law.

Not retroactive, then.

Conclusion: The Guardian has its head up its arse.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 05:01:10 AM EST
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Migeru:
King Juan Carlos's heir, Prince Felipe, has two daughters. The Spanish constitution would have to be changed if a son were born to allow the elder daughter to inherit the crown.
Needless to say, everyone is hoping that this won't happen. Should a son be born before the Constitution is amended, the constitutional amendment would be postponed until he accedes to the Crown in order to avoid dynastic claims. People were hoping the constutition would be amended before the Crown Prince had his first child, but it couldn't be (due to the fractiousness I mentioned above).

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 05:27:34 AM EST
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Migeru:
The grandees have also tried to drag King Juan Carlos into the row. "We beg your attention and understanding in finding a solution that will resolve the violation perpetrated on us," they wrote to him.
The King signed the law itself, you dunces!
"The new regulations for noble titles should make you look to the future," [the King] said in a letter to those congregated there in March.
What a shock.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:20:30 AM EST
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as it may allow some women to claim titles retroactively from brothers or uncles who currently hold them.

Isn't it a basic legal principle that you can't legislate retroactively?

Though indeed we broke just that principle when we reformed our constitution 35 years ago to make the oldest royal child the next in line, instead of the oldest male. That meant that the crown prince was turned into a prince and his big sister was made crown princess.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:40:44 AM EST
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Spanish Constitution, Article 9,3
3. La Constitución garantiza el principio de legalidad, la jerarquía normativa, la publicidad de las normas, la irretroactividad de las disposiciones sancionadoras no favorables o restrictivas de derechos individuales, la seguridad jurídica, la responsabilidad y la interdicción de la arbitrariedad de los poderes públicos.
seems to ban some sort of retroactivity ("irretroactividad") but it seems to me to talk only about punishment ("sancionadoras"), not about civil law. Am I right? (Google translation is useless here...).
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:49:00 AM EST
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Yes, you're right.

But the Spanish legislators are wary of burdening the courts with the cases that would result from retroactive measures.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:17:06 AM EST
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Migeru:
DISPOSICIÓN TRANSITORIA ÚNICA.Single transitional provision
En la aplicación de la presente Ley a los títulos nobiliarios concedidos antes de su vigencia se observarán las siguientes normas:In application of the current law to nobility titles awarded before this law came into force, the following norms shall be observed:
  1. Las transmisiones del título ya acaecidas no se reputarán inválidas por el hecho de haberse realizado al amparo de la legislación anterior.
  1. Transmissions which took place already will not be considered invalid because they were made under the previous law.

Not retroactive, then.

Starvid:
That meant that the crown prince was turned into a prince and his big sister was made crown princess.
Barbarians! It's a good thing you Swedes are too cold-blooded for this to lead to something like the  Carlist Wars
The Carlist Wars in Spain were the last major European civil wars in which pretenders fought to establish their claim to a throne. Several times during the period from 1833 to 1876 the Carlists -- followers of Infante Carlos (later Carlos V) and his descendants -- rallied to the cry of "God, Country, and King" and fought for the cause of Spanish tradition (Legitimism and Catholicism) against the liberalism, and later the republicanism, of the Spanish governments of the day.


The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:09:05 AM EST
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Or the Hundred Years' War...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:28:25 AM EST
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BBC: Blair 'is EU president candidate'
Ex-prime minister Tony Blair is the UK candidate for president of the European Council, Europe Minister Baroness Kinnock has apparently confirmed.

At a briefing for journalists in Strasbourg, Lady Kinnock said the UK was supporting Mr Blair for one of the most powerful posts in the EU.

Asked if this had been discussed with Mr Blair, she said the government "would not do that without asking him".

The post depends on Irish backing of the Lisbon Treaty in a referendum.

Sounds like the Irish just got a powerful reason to vote "no".  Are the UK trying to sabotage Lisbon?

by IdiotSavant on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:06:41 AM EST
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Thats an odd statement, three days after this

SARKOZY 'NON' TO BLAIR'S EURO PRESIDENCY DREAM - mirror.co.uk

Tony Blair's bid to land the powerful job of European Union President may have been scuppered - by his old pal Nicolas Sarkozy.

The French President has switched his crucial support to Spain's ex-prime minister Felipe González, sources in Brussels have revealed. Without the backing of Mr Sarkozy, allies of Mr Blair privately admit he has no chance of getting the post.

Perhaps it's just a token statement, for national pride sake, before voting for one of the real candidates.

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:15:20 AM EST
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FT.com / UK - Brown backs Blair for EU president
Gordon Brown is backing Tony Blair, Britain's former prime minister, for a return to the world stage as president of the European Council even before the job has been formally created, a top government official disclosed yesterday.

The council includes the leaders of the 27 European Union member states, and currently rotates among them every six months. Under the proposed Lisbon Treaty, it would become a five-year post, making its holder one of the most powerful figures in Europe.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:26:51 AM EST
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all crooks, criminals, kleprocrats are rewarded not only in Russia or India or China but in EU too.
by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:44:32 AM EST
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You forgot the US, Latin America, Africa and Australia.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:31:29 AM EST
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Honestly I don't know much about them but the first three are known to me to some extent. Russia is very well known kleptocracy and India also. China is presumed to be very corrupt country but I have no first hand knowledge. Europe is usually regarded as better place ranging from quite corrupt and corrupt like Italy and reece to not so corrupt and almost not corrupt places in Norway or Sweden. At least people from these countries told me so - I had known one Norwegian girl few years ago and just now in Dharamsala I met Swedish guy Anton who told me a lot about his country.
by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:12:13 AM EST
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((economy1)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:51:01 AM EST
EUobserver / Brussels puts forward stricter rules for banks

Banks in the European Union will have to restrict their investment in risky operations under new rules proposed by Brussels as part of a response to the current financial crisis.

"We are acting ambitiously to prevent lightning striking twice," said Jose Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission, the EU's main regulator introducing the new legislation on Monday (13 July).

New rules in the financial sector are supposed to prevent crisis "lightning striking twice"

The blueprint aims to revise the bloc's existing rules on capital requirements for banks in two key areas - securitisation and remuneration, viewed by experts as the key factors contributing to the crisis in the financial sector.

Both are linked with risk taking in the financial sector: securitisation involves pooling and repackaging of cash-flow-producing financial assets into "securities" then sold to investors that could worsen or lose their credit if the transaction is improperly structured.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:56:04 AM EST
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EUobserver / Norway to renew regional aid for EU newcomers

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Non-EU members Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein are set to renew a five-year funding scheme of over €1 billion for energy, social and democracy projects in the bloc's poorest member states.

"We have made good progress and we hope to finalize the negotiations before the summer break," Rune Bjastad, spokesman for the Norwegian mission to the EU told this website.

Over the last five years, Norway contributed over €1 billion in regional aid to the EU's new member states

Norway is the leading negotiator with the European Commission, with Oslo funding 97 percent of the current €1.3 billion allocated to EU's 12 most recent members, as well as Greece, Portugal and Spain.

In parallel to the renewal of the funding scheme, which ended in April, Oslo is also negotiating bigger export quotas for its fish products onto the EU market.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:57:21 AM EST
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Drugmakers Drag Singapore Out of Recession - South and Southeast Asia * Asia * News * Story - CNBC.com

Singapore's economy has leapt out of recession, expanding in the second quarter at its fastest rate in nearly 6 years, thanks to a surge in biomedical production and construction.

Gross domestic product for the April-June period rose at an annualized and seasonally adjusted rate of 20.4 percent, versus a median forecast in a Reuters poll of 16.4 percent and the first rise after four consecutive quarters of contraction, preliminary government data showed on Tuesday.

From a year earlier, GDP fell 3.7 percent as manufacturing and service industries continued to contract, the data showed. That compared with expectations for a fall of 5 percent.

Analysts remained cautious over the data and questioned its sustainability given volatility in Singapore's drugs output and a weak global outlook, but said other export-dependent Asian
economies were also likely to see improved second quarters.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:57:43 AM EST
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FT.com / Comment / Opinion - Time to tackle the real evil: too much debt
The core of the problem, the unavoidable truth, is that our economic system is laden with debt, about triple the amount relative to gross domestic product that we had in the 1980s. This does not sit well with globalisation. Our view is that government policies worldwide are causing more instability rather than curing the trouble in the system.

...

The only solution is to transform debt into equity across all sectors, in an organised and systematic way. Instead of sending hate mail to near-insolvent homeowners, banks should reach out to borrowers and offer lower interest payments in exchange for equity. Instead of debt becoming "binary" - in default or not - it could take smoothly-varying prices and banks would not need to wait for foreclosures to take action. Banks would turn from "hopers", hiding risks from themselves, into agents more engaged in economic activity. Hidden risks become visible; hopers become doers.

It is sad to see that those who failed to spot the problem (or helped to cause it) are now in charge of the remedy. Just as the impending crisis was obvious to those of us who specialise in complexity and extreme deviations, the solution is plain to see. We need an aggressive, systematic debt-for-equity conversion. We cannot afford to wait a day.

The whole paper is worth reading

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 02:29:15 PM EST
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You have to register to see it sadly. glad people are beginning to realise that a major part of the crisis isn't about liquidity at the top, but the debt saturation amongst the rest of the population.

they need to end wealth capture and start putting more money into people's pockets instead of screwing down on wage costs and large scale redundancies

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:42:21 PM EST
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You can read Three FT articles without registering. Tip: if you close your browser and delete the cookies, you can access three more articles, rinse, repeat...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:45:32 PM EST
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FT.com / Capital Markets - US launches probe into credit derivatives
The Department of Justice has opened an investigation into the credit derivatives market, with letters sent to over a dozen dealers asking for several years' worth of detailed information about trading and pricing.

The move comes as the regulatory spotlight continues to shine on the credit default swaps (CDS) market, a sector of the privately-traded derivatives universe that grew dramatically in the last decade and generated huge profits for Wall Street.

...

The letters, sent to banks with an equity stake in Markit Group, which provides pricing data on the CDS market and has developed many of the most closely-watched derivatives pricing benchmarks in it such as the mortgage sector's ABX, CDX and ITraxx Europe indices, were sent recently.

According to people who have seen the letter, it does not specify why the DoJ is seeking the information and whether it is a fact-gathering mission or linked to specific concerns of misconduct or market dominance. It was sent by the anti-trust division of the DoJ. The DoJ declined to comment.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 02:34:00 PM EST
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The Baseline Scenario:
Waiting For The Big Push: Selling The Consumer Protection Agency For Financial Products
In mid-March, the administration proposed that toxic assets could and would be safely removed from banks balance sheets.  We were skeptical, and the the PPIP now seems to have slipped into irrelevance (loans; securities).  But the administration still put an impressive effort into persuading independent analysts, and broader public opinion, that they should do something clearly beneficial for banks.  This was "all hands on deck," and it definitely had an impact on the debate, at least for a while.

Now, the administration's major remaining initiative is its version of a Financial Product Safety Commission - something that would be clearly beneficial for the public.  And the skepticism - and outright opposition - comes from the banking sector.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:03:08 PM EST
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FT.com / US / Politics & Foreign policy - SEC to create group to check rating agencies
The Securities and Exchange Commission has created a new group of examiners to oversee credit rating agencies, which came under sharp criticism for their role during the financial crisis.

The SEC has already adopted a number of measures to increase transparency at credit rating agencies, which are paid by the issuers they rate. But greater oversight is needed with officials expected to conduct both routine and special examinations of their activities, Ms Schapiro is set to tell a Congressional oversight hearing on Tuesday.

The plan is part of a wide range of structural changes being made at the SEC, which has faced withering criticism in the past year for its oversight of financial firms and ratings agencies as well as for failing to detect the Bernard Madoff fraud in spite of credible allegations brought to it for at least a decade.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:16:53 PM EST
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Mmegi Online :: Mercantilism Reconsidered - Dani Rodrik
A businessman walks into a government minister's office and says he needs help. What should the minister do? Invite him in for a cup of coffee and ask how the government can be of help? Or throw him out, on the principle that government should not be handing out favors to business?

This question constitutes a Rorschach test for policymakers and economists.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:40:45 PM EST
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How it comes about that the businessman can just walk into a minister's office is perhaps a relevant preliminary question.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:43:03 PM EST
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It's a frame thing, we live in times where the idea that money buys access and influence with the Executive is considered a given rather than an outrage.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:47:56 PM EST
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Anticipating Financial Instability  by Rob Parenteau

Reprising much of the diary and comments on Chris Cook's No One Saw it Coming?
Parenteau adds some useful observations, starting with the common characteristics of those who did see it coming.

The dissenters, Bezemer found, shared an emphasis on a stock/flow coherent macroeconomics. That is, starting from what should be an uncontroversial, accounting based view that at the level of the economy as a whole, total income must equal total expenditures, and total assets must equal total liabilities, those who saw this coming were able to identify unsustainable sectoral cash flow and balance sheet developments. In advance, a stock/flow coherent macroeconomics revealed the reasons why the Great Moderation was bound, by construction, to eventually give way to the Great Disruption.

As Bezemer put it,

"Surveying these assessments and forecasts, there appears to be a set of interrelated elements central and common to the contrarians' thinking. This comprises a concern with financial assets as distinct from real sector assets, with the credit flows that finance both forms of wealth, with the debt growth accompanying growth in financial wealth, and with the accounting relation between the financial and real economy."

Having performed one such analysis for the Levy Economics Institute in 2006 (http://www.levy.org/vdoc.aspx?docid=866) and studied financial instability reports issued by the Levy Institute, the BIS, the IMF, and others prior to the recent financial crisis, we believe Bezemer has it largely correct. If policy makers are indeed serious about the "never again" pledge regarding a financial crises the size of the recent one, they will need to set aside the prevailing macroeconomic paradigm - one which has largely made itself irrelevant by approaching macro as little more than aggregated microeconomics. Instead, they will need to become familiar with a stock/flow coherent macroeconomics that highlights the way financial conditions can shape economic outcomes. This is an economics examined and utilized by J.M. Keynes, Irving Fisher, Hy Minsky, Wynne Godley, Kurt Richebacher, and others - it is an economics especially relevant to the world we actually inhabit.

-Skip-

If macroprudential supervision or any such related effort at reducing the odds of systemic economic crises unfolding from financial instability is to be successful, the core analytics will need to be built around a stock/flow coherent approach macroeconomics. The ground work in this area has been already been done by the likes of Claudio Borio, Wynne Godley, Levy Institute research associates, and others working in financial stability projects within various national and international institutions. Without paying attention to unsustainable sectoral cash flows and the resulting balance sheet leverage building up over time, financial vulnerabilities that can trip up the entire economy - indeed, as we have seen, the entire global economy - will remain largely invisible to investors, entrepreneurs, and policy makers. Perhaps that serves the interests of asset bubble perpetrators, but after recent events, it is high time to question whether those interests should remain paramount.



If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:26:05 AM EST
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CRE: Higher Vacancy Rates, Lower Rents in San Diego, Orange County and Las Vegas

Voit released quarterly reports today for CRE in Las Vegas, San Diego and Orange County.  The reports show the vacancy rates are up and lease rates falling. It also shows new construction has slowed sharply. Here are a couple of graphs for Orange County and San Diego. We are seeing a similar pattern nationwide, although new construction in these areas probably slowed earlier than most of the country.

This graph shows the annual Orange County office vacancy rate and new construction since 1988.

In 2007 the rapid increase in the vacancy rate was due to a huge increase in new space combined with negative absorption as a number of Orange County financial companies (like New Century) went under. New construction has almost stopped, but the net absorption rate is still negative, so the vacancy rate is still rising.

The second graph is for San Diego. The dynamics are similar, but construction halted later than in Orange County.

Although Voit didn't provide a similar graph for Las Vegas, the situation is clearly worse:

   At the close of the second quarter, approximately 10.9 million square feet of vacant office product remained on the market, producing an average vacancy rate of 22.1 percent. When excluding owner-user buildings, the vacancy rate jumps to 24.2 percent for speculative space. Vacancy rates are up from the 19.6 percent posted three months prior, while the comparison to the 16.9 percent vacancy rate from the second quarter of 2008 is even more dramatic.



If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:57:53 AM EST
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A load of urine on the "green shoots" that Commercial Real Estate might provide, and right on schedule.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:59:32 AM EST
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Research Recap » Blog Archive » Moody's Expects US CMBS Delinquencies to Reach 5-6%
Moody's now expects the aggregate rate of delinquencies among US Commercial Mortgage-Backed Securities to reach 5% to 6% by the end of this year.

Moody's latest CMBS Delinquency Tracker (DQT) records the aggregate rate of delinquencies among US CMBS conduit and fusion loans at 2.67%, based on data through the end of June. This represents a 40 basis point increase from the prior month's 2.27% rate.

By comparison, the DQT was 0.46% a year ago and is now 245 basis points above the low of 0.22% measured in July 2007.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 01:32:10 AM EST
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Those graphs look like a classic overshoot-and-collapse cycle. Low vacancy rates cause construction, which in turn raises the vacancy rate lowering the rate of construction. This is a natural ocsillator with an equilibrium point. Introduce lag into the feedbacks and you get a chaotic oscillator.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:11:58 AM EST
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The Big Picture

Great pair of charts from the NY Fed on the various policy responses to the financial crises

Financial Turmoil Timeline

International Responses to the Crisis Timeline

>

Hat Tip: VoxEU via Mike Panzner



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 02:07:55 AM EST
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The second is a strangely incomplete compilation, missing all of the events connected to Iceland, Hungary, Latvia or Russia, at national or ECB/IMF level.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:36:56 AM EST
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The Economy Is Even Worse Than You Think

Average length of unemployment highest since 1948. - WSJ.com

The recent unemployment numbers have undermined confidence that we might be nearing the bottom of the recession. What we can see on the surface is disconcerting enough, but the inside numbers are just as bad.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics preliminary estimate for job losses for June is 467,000, which means 7.2 million people have lost their jobs since the start of the recession. The cumulative job losses over the last six months have been greater than for any other half year period since World War II, including the military demobilization after the war. The job losses are also now equal to the net job gains over the previous nine years, making this the only recession since the Great Depression to wipe out all job growth from the previous expansion.

Here are 10 reasons we are in even more trouble than the 9.5% unemployment rate indicates:



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 02:15:16 AM EST
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LOL - now that the Reps are out and the Dems in, they suddenly discovered these things. Notice that the article doesn't say a word about Dubya. As I expected, they are starting to blame the crisis on Obama.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:30:47 AM EST
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How Should We Interpret Goldman Sach's Unexpectedly Large Earnings? - Economist's View
The NY Times Room for Debate is discussing how we should interpret Goldman Sach's compensation pool, which will be an $11.36 billion set aside for the first half of 2009. Here's the unedited version of my entry (you may like the shorter, edited version better):

And it's not just that the financial sector needs to get smaller so that resources can be used productively elsewhere, the financial sector also needs to change its ways so that risk accumulations do not threaten the financial system and the broader economy. As Robert Reich notes today, Goldman's chief financial officer tells Bloomberg News that "Our model really never changed, we've said very consistently that our business model remained the same." Thus, a second signal from Goldman's unexpectedly large earnings is that firms such as Goldman Sachs are returning to the same high-risk strategies backed by too big to fail government guarantees that got us into trouble in the first place, and that aspect of Goldman's success is worrisome. It's a signal that the excesses that led to the high incomes of financial executives have not ended.

...

Other entries from William K. Black, Yves Smith, Charles Geisst, David Merkel, and Jeffrey Miron.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 02:43:56 AM EST
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Brussels Intent on Regulating UK Hedge-Funds - RGE Monitor
Following the publication of the first proposed EU law on hedge funds, driven by the French and Germans, many London based fund managers have called for the directive to be altered otherwise they would abandon Europe. The debate has increased as Sweden embarks upon its EU presidency

The Swedish Finance Minister suggested that the Swedish Presidency of the EU would not pursue "overzealous initiatives against hedge funds and private equity firms" and is hopeful of finding compromise between the UK on one side and the French and Germans on the other.

  • European Commission: Hedge funds are high-risk private investment partnerships that make huge wagers on market movements and are suitable only for professional and institutional investors.
  • Under the proposed law, managers of hedge funds and similar `alternative investment funds' that handle at least €500 million (€100 million for those using borrowed money) would have to register with regulators.
  • They would also have to disclose information about their business, for example the extent to which they use borrowed money or financial instruments to boost potential returns.


  • "Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
    by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:01:47 AM EST
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    Using rhetoric like:

    "overzealous initiatives

    ...and then pretending to be impartial between extremes:

    finding compromise between the UK on one side and the French and Germans on the other

    LOL. Starvid claims the Swedish right-wing shed its neolib reflexes, but not so much, it seems.

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

    by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:24:52 AM EST
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    I'm not sure the guys in charge of our EU-policy knows what an hedge fund is, and if they do they either

    1) don't care about them

    or

    2) ready to compromise with everything, everyone and his grandmother so as not to make a fuss.

    Don't take this as some kind of independent political stance.

    Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

    by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:51:53 AM EST
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    This was the finance minister speaking, not some low-level EU bureaucrat.

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
    by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 08:10:23 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Ah well, then no.2 seems the more likely.

    Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
    by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 08:23:57 AM EST
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    Everybody knows everything about the coming derivative meltdown.


    uly 15 (Bloomberg) -- A new financial crisis will develop from the failure to effectively regulate derivatives and the extra global liquidity from stimulus spending, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said.

    "Political pressure from investment banks and all the people that make money in derivatives" will prevent adequate regulation, said Mobius, who oversees $25 billion as executive chairman of Templeton in Singapore. "Definitely we're going to have another crisis coming down," he said in a phone interview from Istanbul on July 13.
    .....
    Mobius didn't explain what he thought was needed for effective regulation of derivatives, which are contracts used to hedge against changes in stocks, bonds, currencies, commodities, interest rates and weather. The Bank for International Settlements estimates outstanding derivatives total $592 trillion, about 10 times global gross domestic product.

    Looming Crisis

    "Banks make so much money with these things that they don't want transparency because the spreads are so generous when there's no transparency," he said.



    Skennah Kowa
    by Crazy Horse on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:53:32 AM EST
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    forgot to highlight this. BIS is the bank whose former analyst called the current meltdown to Greenspan's face, posted in one of Chris' diaries.

    The Bank for International Settlements estimates outstanding derivatives total $592 trillion, about 10 times global gross domestic product.

    Skennah Kowa

    by Crazy Horse on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:55:52 AM EST
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    Morning Madness: Economic Fundamentals


    In 1981, US GDP was $3.1 trillion dollars.

    In 1992 it was $6.3 trillion, a double.

    In 2005 it was $12.4 trillion dollars, another double.

    Doubling in roughly 12-13 years.  Not bad, right?

    Let's look at it a different way, this time in "current" (not inflation-adjusted, since GDP isn't) dollars.

    In 1981 the per-capita income in the US was $8,476.

    In 1992 it was $14,847, a 75% gain.

    In 2005 it was $25,036, a 69% gain.

    Notice anything?

    Its not really that subtle, is it?

    GDP slightly more than doubled in each of those above periods, but per-capita income lagged, and the lag rate is increasing

    by paving on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:37:47 AM EST
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    A bit meaningless without comparison to population numbers...

    Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
    by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 05:33:06 AM EST
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    Consumer Protection Agency, Rear Guard Alert | Messages.Finance.Yahoo! | 14 July 2009

    DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
    WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--Securities regulators on Tuesday issued a joint alert warning investors against buying or retaining over-the-counter shares of the now-bankrupt General Motors Corp. The alert, sent out by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority [FINRA], said there is "widespread misunderstanding by investors" that the stock in the bankrupt GM company is related to the "new" General Motors Co. that emerged from bankruptcy last week as a new entity that will belong in part to the U.S. and Canadian governments. "Motors Liquidation Company and the 'new' GM are separate and distinct," the alert said.

    Not to be confused either with, according to the NYT, the closely held "Vehicle Acquisition Company but soon to be renamed the General Motors Company"? Persons such as the UAW who accepted OLD GM warrants in consideration of OLD GM fiduciary obligations may liken VAC to a GSE-controlled special purpose entity or pupa from which their ownership interest in the NEW!GM will materialize.

    "The new GM currently has no publicly traded securities, and none of Motors Liquidation Company's publicly owned stocks or bonds are or will become securities of the new GM." The alert added that "Motors Liquidation Company is currently winding its way through bankruptcy court - and there is a real possibility that stock holders will receive nothing from these proceedings." Finra, the self-regulatory group for the brokerage industry, halted over-the-counter trading in old GM stock under the GMGMQ ticker symbol last Friday. A new ticker symbol - MTLQQ - will be issued for the old stock to avoid having it confused with the new GM, which does not have any publicly traded securities....

    The alert added that investors are often confused by the fact that a company's securities may continue to trade after bankruptcy even though the common stock of that company is likely to be cancelled.

    ## Zombie Chronicles

    Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

    by MarketTrustee on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:45:18 AM EST
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    Elliot Spitzer Discusses Goldman on Bloomberg TV today

    Video of Spitzer on Bloomberg TV today discussing Goldman-Sachs and the Matt Taibbi article in Rolling Stone this week as well as the reality of the bail-out and how a fictional "paper economy" has replaced the manufacturing base.  

    by paving on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:47:08 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Multiplier muddles (wonkish) - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
    It is nice, by the way, to have Eichenbaum et al showing that the paradox of thrift is real even in a model with lots of maximizing bells and whistles. Has someone told Gene Fama and John Cochrane?
    Krugman keeps sniping at Mankiw and the rest of the neoclassicals.

    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 06:41:46 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Gregor Macdonald -Seeking Alpha: This isn't a Recession it's a Collapse


    Washington is bluffing that it will not bail out California, and every other state suffering from collapsed revenues and massive job losses. If cuts in police and schools don't force DC off from its current position, then the math will. Because in many states the aggregate revenue losses and looming cuts to state payrolls will largely render the intended effects of federal stimulus as moot. Frankly, unless Washington prints money and bails out every state that needs capital, including California, federal power will decline amidst this severe economic recession, and the process of a soft American devolution will begin. If you think this idea is outrageous, then you've still not come to terms with a core reality of our current situation: the structure of this financial crisis is wholly different than any in our post-war era. This isn't a recession. This is collapse.


    Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
    by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 08:25:54 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    All california has to do is look like it's gonna legalise and tax marijuana and the Federal help will come rolling in.

    keep to the Fen Causeway
    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:24:44 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    ChrisCook:
    Frankly, unless Washington prints money and bails out every state that needs capital, including California, federal power will decline amidst this severe economic recession, and the process of a soft American devolution will begin. If you think this idea is outrageous, then you've still not come to terms with a core reality of our current situation: the structure of this financial crisis is wholly different than any in our post-war era. This isn't a recession. This is collapse.
    FT.com: From direct democracy to direct federal financial rule in California (Willem Buiter's Maverecon, July 13, 2009)
    The state still services its outstanding stock of official debt with cash, which is why no formal event of default has been called yet, but de-facto California has already defaulted on its financial obligations and commitments by paying suppliers and employees with funny money rather than with cash.  When the banks stop accepting the IOUs except possibly at massive discounts, which will happen soon unless an early resolution of the budgetary stalemate is achieved, the state of California will close down for business.  Municipalities and counties dependent on state funds will follow suit.  Before long the teachers won't teach, the fire fighters won't fight fires, the police won't maintain law and order and neither garbage nor taxes will get collected.  It will be a grand Hobbesian experiment.
    Energy Bulletin: Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US (Dmitry Orlov, December 4 2006)
    My talk tonight is about the lack of collapse-preparedness here in the United States. I will compare it with the situation in the Soviet Union, prior to its collapse. The rhetorical device I am going to use is the "Collapse Gap" - to go along with the Nuclear Gap, and the Space Gap, and various other superpower gaps that were fashionable during the Cold War.

    ...

    The subject of economic collapse is generally a sad one. But I am an optimistic, cheerful sort of person, and I believe that, with a bit of preparation, such events can be taken in stride. As you can probably surmise, I am actually rather keen on observing economic collapses. Perhaps when I am really old, all collapses will start looking the same to me, but I am not at that point yet.

    And this next one certainly has me intrigued. From what I've seen and read, it seems that there is a fair chance that the U.S. economy will collapse sometime within the foreseeable future. It also would seem that we won't be particularly well-prepared for it. As things stand, the U.S. economy is poised to perform something like a disappearing act. And so I am eager to put my observations of the Soviet collapse to good use.



    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:38:29 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Is A British Court About To Decide The Future Of Securitization? | zero hedge
    Creditflux reported last week that the lawyers of bankrupt Lehman Brothers recently filed in English courts a request to overturn the concept of bankruptcy-remoteness for special purpose vehicles (SPVs). If granted, this request could spell the end of securitization as a once-upon-a-time multi-trillion credit product, regardless of how many PPIP or TALF revisions the administration throws into the CRE fire.

    ...

       A ruling against the investors would be hugely negative for the credit markets as the concept of bankruptcy-remoteness will most likely not be valid for any transactions where the swap counterparty has a U.S. connection. The immediate outcome will be potential ratings downgrades of funded synthetic transactions, as rating agencies factor in the lower ratings of swap counterparties (provided they have a U.S. connection). In some instances, this could lead to forced unwinds by ratings-sensitive investors, resulting in significant upward pressure on spreads. In the medium to longer-term, this outcome could present a huge hurdle in restarting the securitization market especially as most traditional investors, who are also ratings-sensitive, are unable to participate in the market.



    "Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
    by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:51:25 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Securitisation has always been about regulatory arbitrage.

    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:01:10 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    FT.com / Companies / Banks - Goldman Sachs staff set for record pay
    Pay at Goldman Sachs this year is set to beat the boom levels enjoyed before the financial crisis, when top executives raked in tens of millions of dollars in year-end bonuses.

    The prospect of bumper pay and bonuses at Goldman, which on Tuesday reported surging second-quarter profits and is a bellwether for Wall Street banks, is likely to reignite a fierce debate in the US over bankers' pay.



    "Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
    by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:29:20 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
     WORLD 

     

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:51:21 AM EST
    Allies' stance cited in US gays-in-military debate - Yahoo! News

    British policymakers had been wrestling for years with whether to scrap a long-standing ban on gays in the military -- but the pivotal decision was made abroad, by the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France.

    The court ruled in 1999 that Britain had violated the rights of four former service members who were dismissed from the military for being gay and lesbian.

    King's College professor Christopher Dandeker said there had been significant opposition to the change among military officers. There were predictions -- not borne out -- that unit cohesion would suffer and that large numbers of personnel would leave the military if gays could serve.

    Once the ban was lifted, Dandeker said, the opposition dwindled, and the government of Prime Minister Tony Blair embraced the chance to be seen as a beacon of tolerance.

    Lord Alan West, former head of the Royal Navy and now Britain's terrorism minister, served before and after the ban was lifted.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:54:33 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Fran:
    the pivotal decision was made abroad, by the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France

    Britain was a prime mover and founding signatory of the 1949 Treaty of London that created the Council of Europe, of which the ECHR is the main judicial arm. Since Britain has, for decades of treaty obligation, been part of the ECHR's judicial space, in what sense was this decision made "abroad"?

    Fran:

    large numbers of personnel would leave the military if gays could serve

    Gays have always served in the military. The question was whether the fact was to be officially admitted (rather than sniggerd about in Guardsman jokes).

    When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:36:55 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    I'd actually dispute that version of events.

    I remember a few retired military type harrumphing and probably the odd story in the Mail, but by and large there were so many stories from serving soldiers from the Front line of the "yes we have a lot of gay guys serving, and it's no problem .." that the politicians just looked like they were being slow in allowing it.

    But you have to remember that this was the time of Section 28, the filth scum tory homophobic law that made life difficult for gay people and fuelled establishment hysteria everywhere.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:52:21 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    "Iran protests a sign of political maturity" | World | Deutsche Welle | 13.07.2009
    Nobel peace prize winner and human rights activist Shirin Ebadi visited Deutsche Welle's headquarters where she spoke about protests in Iran, human rights, President Ahmadinejad and the West. 

    In 2003, Shirin Ebadi became the first Iranian to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. She is a lawyer, who gained entrance to the Faculty of Law at Tehran University in 1965. In 1975 she became the first woman in the history of Iran's justice system, to be made the president of Bench 24 of the Tehran City Court. She then set up her own practice after receiving her lawyer's license in 1992. Ebadi has written several books and many of her articles have been published in Iranian journals.

    One of the most talked about topics in the world right now is the disputed Iranian presidential election. Do you believe the vote was fair?

    With their street protests, Iranians have shown that they do not accept the announced results of the election which they believe was rigged.

    You have also said that a new election will take place. Do you believe th

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:58:03 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
     LIVING OFF THE PLANET 
     Environment, Energy, Agriculture, Food 

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:52:42 AM EST
    BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Cats 'exploit' humans by purring

    Cat owners may have suspected as much, but it seems our feline friends have found a way to manipulate us humans.

    Researchers at the University of Sussex have discovered that cats use a "soliciting purr" to overpower their owners and garner attention and food.

    Unlike regular purring, this sound incorporates a "cry", with a similar frequency to a human baby's.

    The team said cats have "tapped into" a human bias - producing a sound that humans find very difficult to ignore.

    Dr Karen McComb, the lead author of the study that was published in the journal Current Biology, said the research was inspired by her own cat, Pepo.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:54:54 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Fran:
    Researchers at the University of Sussex have discovered that cats use a "soliciting purr" to overpower their owners and garner attention and food

    Oh noes! Who knew?

    Researchers finally let the cat out of the bag!

    When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:50:31 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    The purr incorporates the cry?  My cat does aggressive purring, along with a weird faux asthma attack thing, which is either 1) pretending to be dying from starvation or 2) some kind of threat that she'll make herself stop breathing if she doesn't get food, both with the understanding that I couldn't live with the knowledge that I killed her.  And then she does the whiny "baby" cry, these days at the hour of 3am.  But cry-purring?  Not sure she's figured out how to take obnoxiousness to that level yet.  

    "Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
    by poemless on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:05:34 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Have they established that wild cats don't have this kind of purr?

    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:08:31 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Wild cats - not a popular pet choice among Sussex biologists, perhaps.

    Wild cats are famous for being impossible to tame, so it's unlikely researchers would be able to get close enough to find out without protective clothing or medical attention.

    by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:43:08 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Reflective roof paint repels the heat

    Inventor Ronald R. Savin, 82, uses a regular kitchen blender to make paint samples as he fine-tunes his formula. The engineer and retired Air Force colonel spent much of his military career creating coatings for spacecraft and airplanes.
    Hyperseal paints can reduce the costs and energy needed for cooling by lowering the amount of heat a building absorbs from the sun. White roofs may be the new green.

    On bright days, the rooftop of the Anaheim Hilton is so blindingly white that it looks like a mirror positioned directly at the sun. That dazzling glare might just be the greenest thing to happen to the top of a building since solar panels.

    The white coating deflects nearly 85% of the heat that hits it, reducing the surface temperature by as much as 50 degrees. That means less energy is needed to cool the hotel's interior, cutting air conditioning costs and carbon emissions.

    This is no ordinary coat of paint. Designed by an 82-year-old former military scientist from the Inland Empire, the tinted topcoat is filled with tiny hollow glass balls that deflect heat, layered over a waterproof undercoat made of recycled rubber.

    The Hilton spent more than $150,000 on the project, which was completed in March. That's $300,000 less than the cost of a conventional repair to the old, leaky roof, said Jerome Annaloro, director of property operations at the hotel. If the reflective material cuts utility costs this summer the way management anticipates it will, Annaloro said, he will recommend white roofs for the entire Hilton chain.



    If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
    by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:42:14 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    New flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study | U.S. | Reuters

    ... "When we conducted the experiments in ferrets and monkeys, the seasonal virus did not replicate in the lungs," said Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin, who led the study.

    The H1N1 virus replicates significantly better in the lungs."

    The new swine flu virus has caused the first pandemic of the 21st century, infecting more than a million people, according to estimates, and killing at least 500. The World Health Organization says it is causing mostly moderate disease but Kawaoka said that does not mean it is like seasonal flu.

    "There is a misunderstanding about this virus," he said in a statement. "There is clear evidence the virus is different than seasonal influenza." <...>

    People born before 1920 had a strong antibody response to the new H1N1 virus, meaning their body "remembered" it from infection early in life. This finding supports a study published in Nature in August that also found people who survived the 1918 pandemic still had immune protection against that virus. ...



    Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
    by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:11:07 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
     LIVING ON THE PLANET 
     Society, Culture, History, Information 

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:53:05 AM EST
    A Yawn From the Napping Sun (18 June 2009)
    For unknown reasons, the sun goes through cycles of activity that last about 11 years. During this time, the number of sunspots on its surface increases to a point called a solar maximum, in which the star's magnetic field grows strongest, and then gradually drops, with a corresponding weakening of its magnetism. These dark, Earth-sized zones of cooler temperatures and powerful magnetic forces sometimes disappear altogether. However, sunspots haven't stayed away this long--2 years--in nearly a century.

    Scientists had been at a loss to explain the lull, as ScienceNOW reported last month (ScienceNOW, 8 May), but now a group from the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in Tucson, Arizona, thinks it has found the reason. It has to do with a magnetic phenomenon called solar jet streams. Every 11 years, the sun simultaneously generates twin streams of plasma at each of its poles. Unlike the jet streams on Earth, the solar versions are magnetized and travel only toward the equator. This migration takes place very slowly--at about 10 kilometers per hour. For reasons still not understood, when the streams reach 22 degrees of latitude, north and south, they touch off a new solar cycle, and the sunspots reappear.

    That is what has just happened on the sun, but with a twist, says NSO scientist Frank Hill. He and colleague Rachel Howe have been tracking the solar jet streams since the mid-1990s using a technique called helioseismology. The method is similar to that used by seismologists to detect and evaluate earthquakes, and it's necessary because the solar streams occur several thousand kilometers beneath the sun's surface. Hill and Howe discovered that the jet streams generated in 1996 have migrated more slowly than normal, taking 13 years to reach the critical 22-degree latitude instead of the usual 11 years.



    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:08:42 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    It has to do with a magnetic phenomenon called solar jet streams.

    Bad methapor alert. The official term is still "flux tube" last I checked. These aren't a form of wind. They are tubes below the surface of the Sun, formed by a cylindrical magnetic field enclosing plasma, preventing convection. The situation is not stable, so upon perturbation, the tube can bend and go up thanks to buoyancy. When the tube hits the surface, you have a pair of sunspots (the inside of the tubes is cooler).

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

    by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 06:14:20 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Migeru:
    For unknown reasons, the sun goes through cycles of activity that last about 11 years.
    Well, why specifically the cycle lasts 11 years is unknown, but that the sun would go through cycles of activity is not surprising: it's a turbulent system.

    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:07:27 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    I would also go as far as to say that we "know" it is a dynamo effect, in which the Coriolis force and differential rotation and convection play their roles; even if we don't yet have a model that predicts the 22 year cycle. (When considering magnetic field directions, the true cycle is 22 years.)

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
    by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:22:49 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    The Associated Press: State TV: 168 killed in Iran plane crash
    State TV says 168 people were killed when a passenger plane crashed Wednesday in northwest Iran.

    Iranian Civil Aviation Organization spokesman Reza Jafarzadeh had told state television that 153 passengers and 15 crewmembers were on the Russian-made Caspian Airlines jet that had been headed from Tehran to the Armenian capital yerevan.

    Footage from the scene on state-run Press TV shows a deep trench smashed into an agricultural field by the impact, littered with smoking wreckage. It showed a large chunk of a wing, but much of the wreckage appeared to be in small pieces.



    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 06:01:24 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
     PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:53:29 AM EST
    Conductor Sir Edward Downes and wife end lives at Dignitas clinic - Telegraph
    Sir Edward Downes, the conductor emeritus of the BBC Philharmonic, and his wife Lady Joan Downes have died at the assisted suicide clinic Dignitas in Switzerland.

    The couple's family said that they decided to end their lives together after struggling with serious health problems.

    Lady Joan, 74, is understood to have been suffering with cancer while Sir Edward, 85, had become virtually blind and suffered loss of hearing.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:58:50 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Rest in peace.

    When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:51:30 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Bhopal Bottled Water Scares Dow Chemical Execs


    London - A new, beautifully-designed line of bottled water - this time not from the melting Alps, nor from faraway, clean-water-deprived Fiji, but rather from the contaminated ground near the site of the 1984 Bhopal catastrophe - scared Dow Chemical's London management team into hiding today.

    by paving on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 08:40:34 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    (Five years ago, the Yes Men impersonated Dow Chemical live on BBC World Television and announced that after 20 years, the company was finally going to clean up its mess in Bhopal. That hoax, which temporarily knocked two billion dollars off Dow's share price, is featured in the Yes Men's new movie, The Yes Men Fix The World, which opens in UK cinemas on August 11.)

    Seems like the market values this clean-up at around US$ 2 bn (in 2004 dollars...). Why aren't our market-loving politicians taking a cue from this and taking that amount of money out of Dow to clean up the place ourselves.

    - Jake

    Tory Bliar for president prison!

    by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:37:19 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Doomwatch


    Right now, Yahoo News thinks you should be quaking in your boots about:
    swine flu
    swine flu
    unemployment
    murder
    by paving on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 08:45:40 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    I'm in Palolem in Goa where I arrived few hours ago by superfast train from Delhi. I and my sister have visited Taj Mahal in Agra and mosque and palace complex in Fatehpur Sikri.

    My sister was left speechless by timeless Moghul monuments. She said it's only ideal symmetry and outstanding architectural skills that impressed her much but also as it's her first in India now she understands how Europe was lagging behind Asia till recent times till creation of European colonial empires in Asia. Taj was stunning and she thought it was something to do with breathtaking color contrast - silver white mausoleum was gleeming in the backdrop of brightly green manicured lawns, picturesque river (there was no stench though this time) and red sandstone mosques on both sides.

    Absolutely stunning and better if you have good video/photo camera.

    We were planning to visit Red Fort in Agra but spent too much time in Taj then went nearby to eat with a look at the monument so have had time only for Fatehpur Sikri and Salim Chisti tomb.

    28-hour train delivered us to Goa in the middle of monsoon season. There are not so many tourists but still many expats, we have met one Georgian woman (I knew her from my previous visits there) who was reconstructing her rented home where she makes wonderful cheese and one German girl who started kindergarten for children of expats. Then we visited Smugglers Inn, bar owned by Englishwoman Dorotha but who is away in England, if anyone know her please tell her that her beefburgers are still great the only difference since last time pints of beer got expensive by 20Rs.

    I recommend visiting India in monsoon because at the time it's looking most attractive. The only drawbcak will be no swimming. Bye.

    by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:16:49 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    now she understands how Europe was lagging behind Asia till recent times till creation of European colonial empires in Asia. Taj was stunning

    Oh, I don't know, methinks Europe was well into competition in producing shiny big buildings for aristocrats while the rest lived in poverty -- Exhibit A: the châteaus of the Loire Valley.

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

    by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:28:16 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Thhe chateaux of the Loire valley, like Chambord, were built a century earlier (XVIth century). Actually, Versailles was built at the same time as the Taj Mahal.

    "Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
    by Melanchthon on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 05:16:54 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    I meant the entire Mughal Empire era architecture, which began in 1525.

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
    by DoDo on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 08:41:37 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    It's not that Moghul architecture is most impressive concerning antiquity. there are stupas and buildings from Ashoka's time in 3rd century BC. Only few buildings in Italy and Greece can rival them, but in Greece they were quite small. Construction of grandiose public buildings started in Europe rather late with Christian cathedrals. About later architecture, especially secular architecture like tombs or palaces I think not even one can challenge Taj - just think about what was recently shortlisted for Wonders of the World. There were no Versailles or Shonbrunns in that list. And there was Taj. Unique.
    by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:20:11 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    FarEasterner:
    there are stupas and buildings from Ashoka's time in 3rd century BC. Only few buildings in Italy and Greece can rival them, but in Greece they were quite small.
    Hmm, I'm not able to actually carry out the comparison, but I'm not that sure that Alexander's empire and the city of Alexandria which he founded in the 4th Century BC don't measure up against Ashoka's kingdom. The two empires were neighbours at the time of Ashoka, as you know. The frontier between the two gave rise to a hybrid Greco-Buddhist art.

    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:31:39 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    France and UK are not inheritors of Alexander's empire (or even Roman empire) and I think he was more Asian in his actions, civilisationary approach and did not want to live in Europe at all. Since he crossed Bosphorus strait he had not returned to Europe if I remember correctly.
    by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:43:11 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    So the Hellenistic Civilization is only Greek and therefore European when it suits your argument?

    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:48:16 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    To be fair, he didn't live that long, and was rather busy. and at the time his civilised world was all to the east and south of his starting point.

    I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
    by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:00:13 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    FarEasterner:
    France and UK are not inheritors of Alexander's empire (or even Roman empire)

    France (Gaul) has been an important part of the Roman empire from 120 BC for the South and from 52 BC for the whole country to the end of the empire. Two Roman emperors (Claudius and Caracalla) were born in Gaul. And the French language is derived from Latin. Great Britain has been part of the Roman Empire from 43 BC...
    But maybe this doesn't fit your definition of inheritor.  

    "Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

    by Melanchthon on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 03:37:38 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    And so what, India was important part of British empire for centuries and many Russian emperors were born in Germany. Even cultural links with Byzantium did not make Russia heiress of medieval Greek empire.

    I found the claims for Greco-Roman heritage ridiculous, especially from those with at best dubious connections. Even Modern Greece and Italy are recent creations in many ways (ethnic, religious, cultural, political, etc) different from their glorious predecessors.

    by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 08:36:19 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    You know, I can claim descent from the Proto-indoeuropean people and take pride in the Vedas, too.

    What is the point of this exercise? It's not much different from "who's stronger, Mighty Mouse or Superman?" What can it possibly matter today whether we agree that the Taj Mahal was unparallelled in its time? What use is past glory? And why should peasant farmers in Utar Pradesh feel proud of some wealthy guy's mausoleum for his wife, any more than a Frenchman should feel proud of the palace of some other wealthy guy built for his court?

    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 08:58:37 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    However you do not write to Melanchton and argue with his  or her ridiculous claims...

    He (she) posted several times suggestions for me to improve my knowledge of history:

    Melanchton: ...makes me think you should improve your knowledge of European history...

    And then posted this here:

    Melanchton:  France (Gaul) has been an important part of the Roman empire from 120 BC for the South and from 52 BC for the whole country to the end of the empire. Two Roman emperors (Claudius and Caracalla) were born in Gaul. And the French language is derived from Latin. Great Britain has been part of the Roman Empire from 43 BC...

    But maybe this doesn't fit your definition of inheritor.  

    And you apparently did not find in it anything objectionable.

    From few remarks and comments here and there I cannot make any judgements and recommend improving knowledge of history but I found in one recent Russian guidebook about London (Orange guide, Eksmo publishing house, 2008) interesting information about historical knowledge in England. There, it was claimed, most people think that first prominent Briton was Julius Caesar indeed, and the next great Englishman was William The Conqueror (ethnic Norman from France). And two more Greats are Oliver Cromwell and Winston Churchill. And the rest of history in public mind is of the same quality which is well enough for ordinary people.  

    However people participating here on forum should understand that others might learn different history of their countries where inconvenient facts were not hidden under the carpet.

    by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Sun Jul 19th, 2009 at 01:41:21 AM EST
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    Glorious predecessors? like those that in India who built the Taj for the Modern Indians? I dont see how that comment dosn't drive a wrecking ball through the  rest of the comments that you have made.

    If you're saying that the Europeans claims for Greco-Roman heritage is ridiculous, then Why does the Indian culture  have any better connection, other than living on the same piece of earth. Modern India is also a relatively recent creation too, I dont see that whole last comment making any real sense.

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    by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 09:34:26 AM EST
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    The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 09:37:33 AM EST
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    Glorious predecessors for Italy and Greece if you would bother to read my statement correctly. Not for UK or France.
    by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Sun Jul 19th, 2009 at 01:44:24 AM EST
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    Why do you think that France has any less connections to the Roman Empire than Italy? The bulk of both were part of it for roughly 400 years, after the Empire's collapse, both areas were ruled by invading Germanic tribes that were a minority of the population, all of these Germanic kingdoms had a short life and they assimilated into the existing population.

    And again, what closer connection does modern India have to Asoka or even the Mughal Empire? For that matter, by all insistence on continity, wasn't China more a succession of different empires not even on the exact same area (f.e. little common area between the Qin dynasty and Southern Song) than one?

    *Traitor*, n.
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    by DoDo on Sun Jul 19th, 2009 at 04:50:16 AM EST
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    Being part of empire even for many hundreds of years does not make part a heiress of the empire. Otherwise Latvia might claim for heritage of empire of Peter Romanov.

    It's nice you mentioned invading Germanic tribes, that's why purists might even deny Italy and Greece any connection to their glorious predecessors.

    France and UK have negligible ethnic connection to Romans or Greeks.

    Here is the difference with India - unlike Europe here ethnic mix did not change much and modern states may claim historical legacy freely. The same population, the same territory.

    In Europe Italy and Greece have the same territory as Roman empire and Greek city states but population might had changed ethnically significantly over the centuries, not speaking about Christianity which was not existent in ancient societies.

    About China I would recommend you to read any history book, for example John Keay's History of China and you will understand where your question or statement is fundamentally flawed.

    by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 01:33:17 AM EST
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    Now you're saying that culture is a heritable trait. Essentially that the son or daughter of a German tribesman could not possibly adopt Roman culture.

    That's a popular line among the European far-right. It does not, however, have anything to do with reality.

    The reality, of course, is that most empires succeed to some extent in imposing their culture on their colonies, and in some measure adapt their culture to reflect that of their colonies.

    And, of course, cultures evolve over time, to the point where they become unrecognisable as the ancestor culture. To say that modern Greece or India has any claim to the monuments located there - other than the geographic fact that they are located in their jurisdiction - is vaguely silly. Just as it is vaguely silly to suppose that Germany has some claim to the merits of the Hanseatic League.

    - Jake

    Tory Bliar for president prison!

    by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Jul 26th, 2009 at 03:08:11 AM EST
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    I would also ask how large are the buildings of Ashokas time, compared to similar times Greek and Roman Buildings? and how many  buildings from Ashokas time fall into the comparison, if it's said that only few Roman and Greek buildings rival them.

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    by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:19:10 AM EST
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    Only few buildings in Italy and Greece can rival them, but in Greece they were quite small.

    Small, do you mean by height? In that, I think the mounds of the megalithic ulture (e.g. Silbury Hill), or the original Mausoleum, or the Collossus of Rhodes on its piedestals measure up with Kesariya Stupa. In general size, I wouldn't call f.e. the Temple of Artemis small.

    just think about what was recently shortlisted for Wonders of the World

    That shortlist was nicely apportitioned according to geographic regions -- with Europe getting the Colosseum. The European monuments among the discarded among the 20 finalists included Neuschwanstein castle, the Eiffel Tower, the Alhambra in Granada, the Acropolis of Athens, Hagia Sophia in Istambul, the Red Square i Moscow, and Stonehenge. Some competition for Versailles et al to go under against.

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

    by DoDo on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 06:19:36 AM EST
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