Blogging To The Bank

by afew
Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:34:53 AM EST

The recent spam attack on ET left us with hundreds of URLs cleaned out of disabled user accounts (and copied into notes for evidence and later reference). We began following some of them up right from the start, whenever there was any doubt about a homepage or a link in bio notes - for example, a link containing the words "get out of debt" or "no more hemorrhoids" is an easy call, but what of a "university" dot edu site, or a "social work" dot org? This ambivalence continued throughout, though we're now pretty much satisfied we've sorted the wheat (small pile) from the chaff (huge pile).

Digging into the huge pile now the rush seems to be over (touch wood) opens up an interesting picture. Yes, lots of what we traditionally consider spam: sales of goods like pills, creams, dietary supplements, sales of online goods like e-books, games, and software, sales of financial services, gambling, advice, training, health information. But it's rare you get there in one go: this is One Click Not. Between you and the goods comes a networked interface of articles, reviews, blog posts... Read and comment on the urgent social phenomenon of "masculine enhancement issues" (sic) before clicking on over to the site that will give a four-star review of a contraption you can follow a link to read more about before clicking through to the sales site. If you so have a mind. Or read a moving personal testimony before following a similar route through to the special-offer teenage-belly-fat-shrinker pills. Or whatever.

So here I'm attempting a review of today's networked spam, with reference to a few explanatory concepts, some of which may be familiar, others less so. All the citations and screen grabs in what follows are from sites linked to in user account spam and/or by following links from same, but no URLs will be given here. A little Gogolology can get you to these sites, but I'm not out to send them traffic.


A reasonable starting-point is the comment from yanv we left up. You can end up clicking through to the sales pitch at yanv's place, but first you get this:

An engaging photo, personal presence, a story to tell in datelined posts, comments enabled (though there are none) - it looks bloggy. And in fact this is a Wordpress blog. Our interesting hot New Jersey night Jaguar rest stop lady has a couple of Instablogs. Several spammers link us to Blogger. Others do their own, like this one:

Baby Pushchairs, Prams and Buggies (UK)

How do find out what's hot in the world of baby pushchairs and prams?

A good place to start is to take a look at what the celebrities of the world are using for their babies and infants.

Great theme for a blog complete with paparazzi photos. But the blogs are not only about celeb stuff or my fight with face wrinkles. A number of spam entries feature the word social, for instance, and the word appears in several user nicks. So, user "socialwork" sends us here:

Which is warm and social consciencish, though a big scroll down takes you to this:

Education features in this article, linked to from another ET account:

College Online Buyer's Market!

Colleges online are coming of age. They have been questioned and tested. Now with economic conditions worsening in many countries around the globe, students are taking a breather while they explore the advantages of studying online. This will have a viral effect over the next two years. The outcome for brick-and-mortar campuses could be critical.

Click on over to an online university site:

Inexpensive, Accelerated Online Degree - Traditional Classic Style Education

We will see to your success in obtaining a prestige private online university education that is guided by higher traditional university standards and academic principles. All of this for less than 10% of the cost of competing universities in countries like the United States.

You will be self paced, and some students will find they can complete their online degree in less than 10% of the time usually required because they will not be restricted by commuting and class schedules. ...An environment where the university student's time and resource commitment is literally a mere fraction of that which is normally required.

How about I hand over the fee and you give me the diploma in 1% (ie <10%) of the time usually required? Deal?

(This case was special because the ET username is human ie forename and family name, and that name can be found on the "university" site as Marketing/PR director, with full postal address and tel. The address is in Panama City...)

Green is the colour, too (surprised?). A whole slew of bloggy interfaces deals with feelgood greenwashy stuff. Here's one:

A blog, with the same poster recycling stuff from elsewhere (no, he's not offering the $1,000 prize), no comments... Stuff on sale and links to stuff on sale, or links to links to stuff... Here's a different blog interface with a different technique and a tighter green-home focus:

That's a blog that applies crowdsourcing to the full: the users post the questions, the users post the answers (at least, if the pitch is to be believed), so there's an appearance of disinterested content. Other ET spammers link us to creative dwellings, green homes, solar panels, gardening supplies, etc. Nothing on general principles regarding energy, the environment; everything about stuff you can get to green up your home.

Networks is another theme: many of these interfaces promote:

  • subscription to their RSS feed

  • referral to one of the many social bookmarking services like Digg, reddit, del.icio.us

  • their presence on social networks like Facebook, MySpace, LinkedIn

  • use of Twitter

  • their videos on hosting services such as Youtube.

The RSS subscription and Twitter are particularly pushed; here's an example of soliciting for a Tweet:

Gogoling for usernames also points up their presence, in quite a few cases, on Answers and How-To sites.

Reviews are the other big thing, apart from blogs. Here's a standalone example, claiming to provide "independent product reviews":

Looks serious? See the pitch to a "Friend", and the parts I have highlighted in orange.

By far the most common platforms for reviews are dedicated sites: E-zines and article directories.  They are transparently unobjective and mostly poorly written. Here's an excerpt from an offering by a spam user who posted a comment on ET - this is taken from the article directory he linked to in his bio notes:

Are you loosing your hair? Are you experiencing excessive hair loss that may lead to baldness? Are you afraid of baldness? It is likely that everyone in this world is worrying about this. Discovery of hair loss is a stressful experience for both sexes, especially for men.

The reviews and "articles", of course, link on to "information" or blog-type sites, or directly to sales sites or squeeze pages, so called because they squeeze the user between the options of giving an email address or leaving the site: here's an example of a squeeze page:

I want so much to learn about organic gardening, but there are no links here to let me browse anything, and if I want to get a taste of that book I have to give personal information...

So?

So what are we seeing? Fairly standard Internet saleables, including the good old stuff that exploits human foibles and anxieties, but also newer, more socially and environmentally "aware" products; up front, networked and interlinked informational and bloggy interfaces. Some obviously questionable practices, but there's nothing illegal about selling stuff, even with hard-sell techniques, even (subject to rarely-applied limits) with fake endorsements and product assessments. Are officially above-board business practices in terms of advertising, sales, and communications, really much better?

Perhaps not, or not always. We're not in the habit, though, of having this forum massively solicited by officially above-board businesses. In other words, all these things I've been looking at came to us via a big, well-organised spam operation using innocent bystanders' IP addresses - which ipso facto means these businesses have one foot at least on the dark side. I won't come back to this aspect, but it shouldn't be forgotten.

Secondly, why so much interlinking? What are the cash flows involved here? Just sales? If that's the case, here's a sketch of how to get higher search engine rank by multiplying Web sites:

That's where you have a product to sell and you do the promotion around it yourself - but there's also business in clicks. Paying for click-throughs can be open and above-board, and is common. These faux blogs and article directories are often there to get clicks and capture cash flow as they drive traffic towards sales. Since there may be one payment for a click-through, but a higher one for a concluded sale (a "conversion" in Internet marketeers' lingo), there's an effort to pre-select and deliver likely prospects to the sales sites. The aim is to generate traffic, as far as possible "pre-sold". We're looking at a fairly strenuous - or maybe just tacky - instance of affiliate marketing.

Checking out spam links on ET can, in itself, lead to information about this. Here's some from the tacky side:

To start affiliate business is very easy:

    * Make a blog or website.
    * Sign up with a few beneficial affiliate programs regarding to your blog or websites.
    * Link to the affiliate programs from your blog using your personal follow links.
    * Generate high traffic to your website or blog.
    * Recommend your friends or visitor who wants to purchase the products of the affiliate programs.

If you are able to do this, your visitor or friends will click on the link and buy product from affiliate programs and you will earn reward or commissions.

Notice you're not selling anything here - you're out to make money as a traffic generator. How do you "generate high traffic to your website or blog"? Setting aside the obvious spam solution for the moment, the answer is to make your site as lively and interesting as possible. Keep fresh content coming, good and on topic. Tie people in with the RSS feed, get their email addies, get them to contribute comments if possible (moderate ruthlessly, goes without saying). Get them bookmarking you, Tweeting you, etc. Pay other sites a commission for click-throughs to you. Put up more sites and drive traffic from one to the other. Do this to raise your search-engine ranking, which will start you on an upward loop of more traffic, better ranking (Search Engine Optimisation, SEO). Don't look too spammy, or the search engine may treat you as such. On the contrary, make your content look as serious as possible, and get your keywords in the right place. Read this carefully:

Affiliate marketing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Websites consisting mostly of affiliate links have previously held a negative reputation for underdelivering quality content. In 2005 there were active changes made by Google, where certain websites were labeled as "thin affiliates".[21] Such websites were either removed from Google's index or were relocated within the results page (i.e., moved from the top-most results to a lower position). To avoid this categorization, affiliate marketer webmasters must create quality content on their websites that distinguishes their work from the work of spammers or banner farms, which only contain links leading to merchant sites.

This is sounding less simple, isn't it? What's more, I may not really be a specialist on gout or solar panels, or even be particularly able to write. And I have to write fresh, original stuff about these topics regularly? This leads to new search engine indexing, new RSS feeds, emails re new post, updated look to the interface - yes, I've got to do it, but how?

Well, there's a solution to every problem. And ET's spammers have it on offer.

Or this one:

Unlimited free traffic using autoblogs and autoblogging

Just an ARMY of dedicated blogs, tirelessly promoting your stuff for you! Unleash the autoblogs for an unlimited stream of free traffic and massive Page Rank boosts!

This incredible ebook explains in complete detail how to set up infinite free blogs on both wordpress and blogger, blogs that will automatically start driving you vast chunks of traffic at no cost! Better yet, this system involves no hosting or domain registrations and can be used to boost the page rank and traffic of any site you like!

Autoblogging? Huh? What follows comes from a forum found when following up an ET spam user's links:

looking for the best Wordpress Automatic Content Generators Plugins - Blah Blah Forum

which wordpress content generator is the best? Wp-o-matic? Wp-autoblog? wp-blogger? feedpress?

response 1

I create a blog with wordpress with my own domain, then use [feed]wordpress content generator plugin to generate content

response 2

I use RSS2Blog for my wordpress domains.

All you do is add feed in the options then set a cron job to fetch a url and it adds content flawlessly.

(From another poster on the same forum, this example of a successful autoblog).

Now hold on - these things will write blog posts for me? No, but they'll fetch other content (articles, the like, and news items) and handle the posting for you. And you can subscribe to RSS feeds and get content coming in from there.

But, but -- I still can't write!

Yet more solutions. Buy content from other sites under a system called Private Label Rights (PLR). Make a few changes to adapt the copy to your needs and feed it to your autoblogger. Here's what one content provider offers:

But First, the PROBLEM... (and your dilemma)

Search engines (and surfers) love sites with LOTS of content that FREQUENTLY update with more great content. Website owners that make a LOT of money operate by the following equation:

LOTS of quality content + Frequent updates + Many websites =
--------------------------
= more / better search engine rankings
= more people find your websites
= more people find your sites useful

= MORE adsense and affiliate $$$

The fact is, the more content you create and the faster you build quality sites, the more pages/sites will get ranked and the more money you'll make. Bottomline.

BUT...

How in the world do you create tons of content, update frequently and create and maintain a bunch of income producing websites (updating and adding content to each of these)? It's literally impossible to do this if you're doing it on your own ... and this is where the C------C--- steps in and makes a true income a reality.

Try the C-------C--- for FREE...
(plus get 50 C----C---- articles also for FREE)!

And here's how you adapt the content to your needs:

If your Internet marketing efforts have brought in lotsa cash, you can go the Rolls Royce way with a different provider:

So you can set up as an affiliate with a niche and specialised content for several sites, no sweat, no tears. Well, quite a bit of work, and some outlay in software and e-books and content, and paying other affiliates for click-throughs to your places. What's more, those "beneficial affiliate programs" mentioned above probably have a hierarchical structure. You signed into the system with a higher-level affiliate than you, who gets a commission when you score a click.

What's the relationship between the money going round in circles there (the upper echelons creaming off a percentage), and the money from real sales of what we have seen are products from fairly limited niches? Does this look a bit like the financial sector and the real economy? Is some kind of leveraging going on? Leveraging Web 2.0? The money goes to the top guys while down below are the losers?

Losers

The striking thing, from an overview (not a rigorous survey) of the spam posted here, is that the biggest single niche in this market is selling Internet marketing expertise to newbies. Here's a green and gentle example:

leads to:

leads to:

Neat, how the modest green-home lady's About page turns into a hook for an Internet marketing (IM) product. A lot less demure is this pitch:

The recession is here, you need money, moms need to work at home to round out the family finances: here's an easy way to make $$$.

And here too is a mentor, a guru, one more in a long list. These guys don't hide (apparently). They have a name and a photo (yeah). They can sell you a method, an e-book, a DVD, special software, advice, a training course. In fact, they are surrounded by students. Here are three different styles:

"A.J."

My title was lifted from there. More "A.J.":

"H.S."

"K.R."

I went through lots more of this kind of stuff, again, directly via links posted here, or a link or two further on. A picture emerges of the successful IMers who not only hold, in all likelihood,  the better-paid slots in the pay-per-click game, but also have efficient operations marketing their brand and knowhow. And out to both sell the latter and to bump up the former by bringing in new low-level players. How long the newbies last is anyone's guess. Fresh blood needed weekly, probably.

The argument that this is not a pyramid scheme can be glimpsed here and there, which at least means that the meme is out there. It sure looks and feels like something of the kind. Complete with appeals to the usual self-help Protestant work ethic stuff, Horatio Alger references, to entice people in. That sickly motivational atmosphere that can slide into the fake inspirational. Can and does, in one case. This is from a review of a book:

The Millionaires Of Genesis

The Bible's laws of health, wealth, and happiness are as applicable today as they ever were. It's easy to see why this book is one of the original "self-help" guides.
<...>

As an online entrepeneur I am constantly searching for knowledge which will expand my creative mindset. A creative consciousness works with the forces of the universe rather than against the people around us. It's so easy to fall into the trap of competitive thought, believing that we're going up against millions of other people in the same business as ourselves. This thinking process has generated so much needless anxiety in my past that I have made my pursuit of a creative consciousness a daily activity.
I was raised Catholic but now consider myself simply a believer in the One Creative Force which rules the universe. Many religions have differing views of God but the common theme among all creeds is that absolute belief in this Force will create wonderful things in our lives. I continue to study religions and various schools of creative thought to get in closer touch with the Source from which everything proceeds.

Here's what this high-minded gentleman is touting on his own site (featuring the terms cash with a true conscience):

RBs Keys To Prosperity And Successful Cash Gifting

Cash gifting is a great way to introduce yourself to a new way of living. You can attract wealth while having fun but it's important to first conduct your due diligence before accepting an invitation.

There are improperly structured programs as well as people who want to receive without giving. Please take your time to confirm that you are enrolling in a legitimate community. Learn the structure of your prospective club. Beware of pyramid schemes and MLM. Steer clear of clubs that talk of selling hard, recruiting, or cold calling prospects. Cash gifting is a private, invitation-only activity which does not entail persuasion of any sort.

Research your mentor extensively. Do they understand cash gifting? They should run a blog and be published on the common article bases.

Gifting is a way of "attracting wealth", and this is not a pyramid scheme? And was it the One Creative Force that drafted this page?

And wrote this?

As an online entrepeneur I am constantly searching for knowledge which will expand my creative mindset.

Punk.

Don't flush the toilet, I want to get out.

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Jesus H. Christ! I had no idea. This was absolutely an incredible mountain of effort to purge this stuff. And to think i read the "partially naked" lady's diaries.

Danke ohne Ende.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 01:28:12 PM EST
I hope you didn't read it deciduously...

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 01:49:07 PM EST
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If she'd been a bit more deciduous, the partial might have become total.

(PS I know her "name", ha ha ha!)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 02:28:42 PM EST
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This kind of analysis is worth money. A whacking whole lot more than the 15 year old internee at a London bank got for telling the old financial fogies that twitter was passée.

Millions of hours of thought every day, around the world, go into how to exploit the intertubez.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 01:40:09 PM EST
Sven Triloqvist:
Millions of hours of thought every day, around the world, go into how to exploit the intertubez.

Frighteningly true. The energy that goes into all this - the leveraged energy - is stunning.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 02:31:12 PM EST
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What do you mean by leveraged energy?  That people are betting that other people will be able to figure out ways to exploit the moneymaking potential of the internet by working with the logic of the search engines to come up with ways to get their websites to come up at the top of the lists and make tons of money?  Are there people borrowing money to hire people to do this?  Another bubble perhaps??
by jjellin on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:00:25 AM EST
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Well, I don't know how much you need to start up as a newbie (and I'm not getting close enough to these creeps to find out), but it's possible some people are drawn in and borrow to put up a stake.

But I used "leverage" figuratively (which is the case in finance too). Used here, it means getting greater effect from act a or b, by multiplying the networked relays of that act. The term is used by the spamdoctors themselves - one I recall, for example, has an e-book to sell you on Leveraging Yahoo! Answers. So I also spoke of leveraging Web 2.0: ie multiplying effort by use of its rapid networking potential.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:55:53 AM EST
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oooh, wow--I gots  alot to lern.   Thanks for giving me something new to chew on.
by jjellin on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:01:58 PM EST
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Well, I don't know how much you need to start up as a newbie (and I'm not getting close enough to these creeps to find out), but it's possible some people are drawn in and borrow to put up a stake.

On one of these forums I dived into, it was apparent that all the programs the spammers use are for money -- what's more, forums for discussing the use of those is for money. That was very Amway-ish for me.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:05:18 PM EST
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But I used "leverage" figuratively (which is the case in finance too).

Putting effort into the process of getting others to put effort into the process ... that's leverage all right. Now, we would hope that the people at the bottom of the pyramid are not putting in more time and money than they can afford to lose ... but given the logic of pyramid schemes, it will tend to be the ruthless in taking advantage of the gullibility of others that will build the largest pyramids.


Utsukushikereba sore de ii

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 01:55:01 PM EST
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The Wild, Wild West took, what, 60 years to rise into lawlessness and then finally be subdued and joined to the East.

Things happen faster today, but the coming shift will probably be propelled by an equivalent to the US Civil War.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:00:35 PM EST
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The Wild West never died. It's one of the foundations of the US gun (out of) control mythology and the libertatian craziness that goes with it.

People still shoot each other in the streets.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 06:17:36 AM EST
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European Tribune - Spam attacks!
There will be at least one more diary dealing with what was found looking at the sites being advertised by these false accounts.  For that though, you will all have to wait for afew to strip his wetsuit off and have a shower after his trip into the sewer.


notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 01:48:14 PM EST
The internet has a large anarchic element, which is good, but also means that large parts of it are like a cesspool. People need to develop their own detectors for that, for which education can be helpful. And people who have not grown up with the internet (short: adults) are most in need of education.

So, eehm, thanks for diving in the sewer for the rest of us :-)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:07:44 PM EST
When I called Sassafras yesterday she mentioned Warrior Forum, which seems to be a central Borg-like nexus for these people, and which I won't link to because I'm sure they don't need the traffic.

Interesting stuff. You've covered far more detail than I discovered in my brief hour of click-through. But one of the most interesting - and depressing - things is discovering an entire community of copy-writers willing to work for 1c a word.

* Yes my friends! That's 1c! Per word! Straight to you! *

The ambitious ones double that. If they reach the stratospheric heights of professional writing, they may even consider 5c a word. I found one writer willing to put together a 150,000 word ebook for $300.

And this isn't writing as writing. This is writing to the SEO template, with guaranteed repetitions of keywords to raise the page rank.

Some of the SEO-ers were complaining that they just couldn't find talent. They were offering a generous $10 for a 1000 word article, but it was nearly impossible to find writers who could do the job properly.

How is this not digital slavery? You can't call your writer and have them whipped or thrown off a cliff, but it's the exact opposite of the Personal Success MegaMethod Total Empowerment Program™ that it promises to be.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:13:48 PM EST
There's Warrior and Black Hat, that I called Blah Blah above, and no doubt others. White Hat = above-board, Black Hat is the dark side. From an SEO services site touted by ET user "seoservices":

There are two types of SEO - "White Hat" and "Black Hat". White Hat SEO is achieved by doing it the right way with no shady techniques and practices. It is the type of SEO that won't get you banned from search engines. Although it means harder work and slower results, but it is the safe way of doing SEO.

Black Hat SEO on the other hand, will probably get you to the top fast but your site will get banned from the search engines relatively fast as well. It usually means using different spam techniques both on site, like keyword stuffing, and off site like spamming for links or having link farms.

As for writer-slaves, there's no sign in any part of this universe that production is of any value at all. It's all trading, rent, leverage, and straight rip-off. Doppelganger for the financial sector.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:30:15 PM EST
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Straight corporate translations are 10c a word for down and dirty, 15 - 20 for good, up to 50 for very specialist technical. Book translators in Finland are very underpaid - maybe 5 - 15c a word max.

Original copywriting is almost impossible to price. I've done stuff up to € 100 a word for finely tuned stuff, but the work's paid in hours not in words.

"It'll take me two week to do you a 2 minute presentation, a couple of days for the 10 minute presentation - but I can do the 1 hour version while you go to lunch"

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:46:08 PM EST
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Indeed.

- Jake

"Terraforming your own planet to make it uninhabitable hardly counts as epic win." - ThatBritGuy

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:53:20 PM EST
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Any idea where these one cent a word copywriters live? I'd imagine that the 'persuasive article' company (the one with the stock photo of a smiling woman wearing glasses) gets its copywriting done in India or some other country where hand-crafted fluent English-language bullshit can be bought at rock-bottom rates.
by Gag Halfrunt on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:04:35 AM EST
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The ones I found were in the US and UK. Which makes it even stranger.

One was advertising herself as an English graduate from a UK university.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:07:38 AM EST
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You should post this over at Dkos - just to see the reaction there!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:18:11 PM EST
It's pretty staggering. It's not just the aggregated professionalism of what they're doing, it's the fact that it amounts to a Distributed Spam Attack that requires considerable effort to repel. I'm not sure there are too many sites with the talent necessary to beat this crap back.

This will get worse, because it's being touted as a revenue stream. But it's still grafitti spam / hacking/ DDOS, just wrapped in a shiny bullshit wrapper.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:31:21 PM EST
it amounts to a Distributed Spam Attack that requires considerable effort to repel. I'm not sure there are too many sites with the talent necessary to beat this crap back.

IMHO if it had not been for someone we'd probably still be working in shifts. Well, probably with ceebs and linca we'd have been able to come up with a technical patch but I suspect it would have taken much longer.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:39:54 PM EST
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No CAPTCHA plugins for Scoop? They seem to defeat most spam, as far as I can tell by the blogs that use them.

- Jake

"Terraforming your own planet to make it uninhabitable hardly counts as epic win." - ThatBritGuy

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:42:25 PM EST
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I don't know, but someone wrote a captcha patch from scratch.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:03:14 PM EST
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I'll be damned.

If someone's in Paris, I'll buy her a beer.

- Jake

"Terraforming your own planet to make it uninhabitable hardly counts as epic win." - ThatBritGuy

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:16:25 PM EST
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Not sure there's much in the way of Scoop plug-ins - of any kind.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:00:03 AM EST
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It's Amway for netizens. I wonder when $cientology will discover it.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:50:31 PM EST
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$cientology probably knows all about it.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:28:27 AM EST
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What I wondered about is if they started recruiting there, like they do on the sidelines of multilevel marketing organisations. (The ex-friend of mine sucked up by them went through two multilevel marketers before, and met the proselytizers at events organized by both.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:12:06 PM EST
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The IM wizards say what they are doing is not MLM, or pyramid sales. Somehow they feel they have to defend against that accusation, I don't know why...

Probably because that's exactly what it looks like?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:47:30 PM EST
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This is very interesting to me because I overheard someone at dinner this weekend talking about their little shop doing very well in internet sales because they now had people who could get their website to come up first or second in websearches of certain key terms.  I figured there had to be tricks involved, but I've never heard many of these terms before--black hat, white hat, etc.  It makes sense that once you know the logic of the search engines that you could game the system.  When you consider that those in, say, the top three spots are going to get all the traffic and make serious money, potentially, there is huge incentive to do anything and everything to get your website into one of those top spots.

The potential for damage to sites like ET by hordes burning down the forests to get the beach seems pretty significant.

It may really limit the use of the web in the future.  Or, create the need for castles and moats where smaller "boutique" blogs can gain protection and share the services of a swat team as seems to exist here at ET, to beat back these disturbers.

As I think of it, already academia and big business have IT departments that are dealing with this stuff day in and day out.

But apparently these tricks work, and there is a lot of money to be made, so it is not going to stop any time soon, and will probably just get more sophisticated.  As will the defenses.

by jjellin on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 08:56:57 AM EST
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Oh my word.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:25:46 PM EST
Astonsihing..
It is incredible.. the length at which...

I just can  not believe how they might get some people to.. well but they may get some people to buy stuff...

I lack words...I can not udnerstand.

In any case, huge work.. and congrat, huge congrat.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:37:24 PM EST
If you've never seen pyramid selling, it's hard to understand. The people at the higher levels, who are pulling in the money, must keep up a constant effort to bring in new (workers/payers) at the bottom. They do so by being friendly and human and offering a certain amount of free advice that draws people in, then, when the fish are hooked, offer more for payment (more credible, if all the advice was free that could be construed as suspicious). The thing is that the advice and training sellers are also running the networks (see KR, the long-haired wonderboy up there, he has an "Affiliate Center" he'd like to introduce you to).

The myth this hits into is the individual making her/is way to the top by dint of hard work and talent and leaving the beaten track to sing "I did it my-y-y wa-a-ay!" There are plenty of people ready to buy into this. Tell them:

  • you're a very special person
  • your hard work and talent are not being recognized
  • you can realize your full potential
  • I made it, why not you?
  • Be careful, you must think this though and be sure it's what you really want
  • so when you tell me you want in, I'll know you're fully committed

There's a kind of evangelical fervour about it, and in fact there are similarities between this approach and proselytism for cults, sects, and fundie religion.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:26:04 AM EST
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Afew--  

An alarming but worthy account!  Thanks for alerting us naifs to the facts of real (virtual) life!  

And a thankyou to you and the whole team for your good work!  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 11:37:11 PM EST
Twitter one is a bit more iffy than you would like. Looking at it, its using your twitter username and password to send an advert. What real chance do you think that they aren't  keeping these details for reuse? You might have allowed a nice green organisation to use your account, but to morrow you could well be selling extension medication, or advertising an objectionable political party.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 06:01:26 AM EST
I thought the same.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:36:53 AM EST
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Great article, afew (and rather shocking)

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 08:17:04 AM EST
But, but -- I still can't write!

Yet more solutions. Buy content from other sites under a system called Private Label Rights (PLR). Make a few changes to adapt the copy to your needs and

I think some college students have been doing this for years--hmmm . . . maybe some of them have moved on to more lucrative domains, so to speak, their skills (at producing cut-and-paste copy) having been "perfected."

by jjellin on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:07:07 PM EST
Yes, we've come across this kind of thing before...

Copyscape can be useful. Indeed the copy providers claim all their work is passed through Copyscape before being delivered, so you are sure you are getting original work. (See the "persuasive articles" screen cap up there).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:58:53 PM EST
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From a senior security source first thing this morning.

Okay, for some of you this will be "teaching granny to suck eggs", but
hopefully this will be of use to those of you who don't have their own
IT support to fix this sort of stuff...

Yesterday was the second Tuesday of the month, the day that Microsoft
traditionally issues security patches for Windows, Office etc - you may
have noticed that your PC slows down for a little while around this
time, and usually asks if it can reboot itself.

Anyway, I'm putting this message together because someone found a fairly
serious bug in Internet Explorer, and Microsoft couldn't get the fix
tested and approved in time to go out last night with all the other
security updates.

If you have Microsoft Office (or any of the Office Viewers) installed,
it adds extensions ("ActiveX Controls") to Internet Explorer, so you can
view MS Office files embedded in web pages.

The bad guys have now worked out that if they can dish out a
specially-crafted Excel spreadsheet, they can make your machine do their
bidding. If you're logged in as a user with Administrator rights over
the machine, they can download other nasties and either wreck or take
over your machine.

A fix is being worked on, but chances are you might accidentally find a
dodgy web page in the meantime - Microsoft have issued a work-around
which temporarily disables this feature. You can still download Excel
spreadsheets from the web and open them in Office (or the Excel Viewer),
you just won't be able to look at them from directly inside Internet
Explorer.

There are reports of rogue web sites dishing out such files, so you need
to apply this workaround ASAP. Antivirus software will eventually catch
up to this trick, but the vendors may take a few days to do so.

Here's how you can protect yourself from this nasty:

Log in to an account with Administrator rights - on XP Home/Vista Home
Premium, this is usually the first username you create.

Open Internet Explorer, and go to the following web page:
a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973472

Under the section marked "Fix it for me", you'll see two big icons
marked "Microsoft Fix It", with a little picture of a mechanic holding a
spanner.

Click on the LEFT-hand one - it has "Enable workaround" printed above
it, and "Microsoft Fix it 50291" underneath. This will prompt you to
download a file called MicrosoftFixit50291.msi.

Close down Internet Explorer completely - if you have ANY Internet
Explorer windows open when you run this, the fix won't be fully
effective until you close them ALL down.

Double-click on MicrosoftFixit50291.msi to run it.

Click on the "I Agree" check-box to put a tick in it, then click "Next".

The FixIt program will then run, and it will tell you if it worked or not.

If it worked, click on "Close". Job done !

NOTE:
If the Fix It says "This Microsoft Fix it requires administrative rights
to install", then it didn't work. You need to be logged in as a user in
the Administrators group for that computer.

This is current now, so if you're an IE user, go amd do this before you do anything else.

apart from that, this is the sort of technique used to create the compromised machines that were used to create the compromised accounts here.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:12:44 PM EST
... oh, wait ...


Utsukushikereba sore de ii
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 02:08:56 PM EST
I mostly missed the assault, and followed the cleanup from a distance, but this is just as amazing an exploration of that universe as the collective effort to protect ET was.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:37:59 PM EST


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