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Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:41:09 AM EST

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This afternoon I am working at home - I need to finish the hand-outs for next weeks summeryoga class.

So for me right now Thursday is okay.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:43:17 AM EST
Thursday is a long day.  Fortunately from tomorrow I am on leave until the following weekend.  No work or internet access for a week.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:49:57 AM EST
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Do you need counseling? ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:52:57 AM EST
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Well, I hope she stops in now and again for a hair of the dog.

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:00:48 AM EST
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dvx:
for a hair of the dog
??? What does this expression mean? I haven't heard this one before.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:04:39 AM EST
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That's an AE colloquial expression: Take a hair of the dog that bit you.

The historical meaning is, if you have a hangover you should take a little drink to make it better.

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:06:38 AM EST
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LOL, I think I never would have guessed that. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:14:43 AM EST
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Originally it came from a mistaken cure for a bite from a rabid dog - a hair from the dog had to be placed in the bite wound.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:17:27 AM EST
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If you have no internet access, does that mean you are going away?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:54:29 AM EST
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Yes, it is Treasure Trove week.  At best I have an intermitant mobile signal but no internet access.  Even if I did, the days are too busy to go online.

No hair of the dog, all cold turkey.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:02:53 AM EST
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A sounds like fun - if I remember correctly you enjoyed the one last year.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:05:12 AM EST
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Yes it was great. Physically demanding but a real escape from real life!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:18:46 AM EST
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In Wales:
No hair of the dog, all cold turkey.

Oh my lord.

Someone staged an intervention, didn't they?

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:07:30 AM EST
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What a day. I now have a freaking Turkish tax ID. I mean, really. Inshallah I won't have to bribe any customs officials tomorrow, but I'm ready for anything.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:04:23 AM EST
They're fierce about imports. A friend of mine used to have a sailboat in Turkey, and he had to go through a whole rigmarole for all his electronics.

There's no such thing as original sin - Elvis Costello
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:10:24 AM EST
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"It was easy in Australia, how hard could it be here?" Hilarity ensues. I actually tried to abandon the mission at one point, but my taxi driver who enlisted himself as my personal assistant wouldn't listen.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:15:14 AM EST
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Well, traveling means adventures. :-)

Btw. have you seen this Link in the Salon? I hope you would see it before going to Greece. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:10:43 AM EST
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ooooooh I might have to check that out. I still don't know what I'm doing there beyond taking a train or bus from here to Thessaloniki.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:16:13 AM EST
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Well may I suggest, Vergina, Thermpylae, Athens museum, the Acropolis, Mycenae, The ruins at Corinth, Olympia and Delphi

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:37:48 AM EST
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I'm lazy enough to just go with your suggestions :)

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:44:24 AM EST
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Dont worry it's not lazy, theres plenty of hills to stroll up in the heat. (Delphi will definitely keep you fit)

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:54:29 AM EST
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Independent - Vefa Alexiadou: Meet Greece's answer to Delia Smith

The result is a kind of Greek "best of" and anyone who thought that Greek cuisine was the stuff you were served on your annual holiday - moussaka, kebabs, Greek salad - is in for a surprise. In the chapter on mezedes (or meze), for example, there are nearly 120 dishes. Yes, taramasalata, tzatziki and hummus are all there, but so too is cuttlefish in wine, salt cod fritters and squid served with nettles.

There is a big chapter on lamb, "many Greeks' favourite meat", full of delicious-sounding slow-cooked stews, as well as a wonderful section on fish. One surprise about the book is how well it caters for vegetarians. Much of Greek cooking, Alexiadou tells me, follows the teaching of the church. Traditionally, Greeks fast 40 days before Easter and 40 days before Christmas and during these times meat and dairy products are banned. Thus, a wealth of sophisticated vegetable dishes emerged on the Greek menu. So the book includes recipes for stuffed celery root, braised okra, fennel bake and, unsurprisingly, endless suggestions for what to do with an aubergine.

Vefa's Kitchen by Vefa Alexiadou is published at the end of June



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 02:01:55 PM EST
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and Epidaurus !

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:55:17 AM EST
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was trying to remember what one I'd missed.

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 12:22:55 PM EST
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Thursday is a bit of a dead day in Finland. Wednesday is the 'Little Weekend', Friday starts the party weekend. TGIF. All the Thursday action is in the art galleries, because new shows are launched then - if a cheap red wine and some cheese nibbly things is your thing. The openings are usually 17 - 19.30, after which artists, gallerists and assorted liggers retire en masse to some trendy watering hole. I've given up on them.

Meanwhile I managed to record, edit and despatch 2 voiceovers that I will probably never ever hear again: one for a pulp mill safety video, the other for a regional bank near the Russian border.  

I am planning to watch Redbelt 2008 by David Mamet later, when it is cooler. Last night I watched The International 2009 with Clive Owen, that could have been quite good if  it had been directed by Paul Greengrass. Owen is wooden - but he worked better than expected in this story of an Interpol operation.

I also watched Finding Amanda 2008. A much better movie with good dialogue and good acting. Worth watching.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:11:28 AM EST
Nice cartoon in today's Guardian:



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:23:21 AM EST
But where's Cheri with her Pope outfit?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 03:41:57 PM EST
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Cheri has the swine flu.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 06:55:36 PM EST
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And all of the jokes in the UK say that condolence cards for the virus are pouring in.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 08:17:29 PM EST
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Coronation Street | Google Street View - ITV Soaps

Corrie fans will soon be able to see 360-degree images of the famous Street as it becomes the first ever TV soap set to feature on Google Street View.

The Google Street View car has been driven down the cobbles to capture pictures for its virtual maps, so you will soon be able to see the Street as you've never seen it before.



I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 11:42:03 AM EST
It's one of the two holidays in this town:  their lady of Carmen.  The socialists are sponsoring a street party with grilled sardines and sangría, where I'm supposed to show, but I don't know for what.  

It's not an appealing combination, but it should be fun.  

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:05:44 PM EST
Well, the food doesn's sound to tempting to me, but the rest could be fun - so I hope you enjoy yourself.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:09:52 PM EST
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We were spared the sardines, but had chorizos, blood sausage and panceta on the grill. Very good.

Then I got to draw beers at the young socialists stand until midnight in a park concert, until the loud fireworks started and we got out of there.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 07:11:07 PM EST
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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:06:14 PM EST
and of course for all the others who understand a little German or English too! :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:08:39 PM EST
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Shhhh... Secret Sanctions on Bank of America
by Karen Weise, ProPublica

Federal regulators placed Bank of America under a "secret regulatory sanction" ($) in early May, the Wall Street Journal reported this morning. The sanction, which is still in effect, requires the bank to revamp its risk and liquidity management as well as overhaul its board to have a majority of new directors.

"Rarely disclosed publicly, the so-called memorandum of understanding gives banks a chance to work out their problems without the glare of outside attention," the Journal said...

by Magnifico on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:15:15 PM EST
The nuclear debate has truly exploded in Germany. Now two more issues added to the one I wrote a story about, the persistent security lapses at a plant that was shut down just after re-start (two yeard after the previous shutdown for the same reasons).

  • The nuclear waste storage facility in Asse (officially, a research facility, but it is full of low- and medium-grade waste) has been scandal-ridden for long, due to leaks, water breaks, instability, and general mismanagement (see f.e. Salon discussion last year). It was assumed that it will have to be emptied somehow in the next decade -- it wasn't yet closed.

    However, fresh leaks have just been reported - groundwater continues to enter the mine. (See Salon.) The boss of the radiation protection agency advised an immediate closure. While there seems to be no danger for anyone outside as yet, this complicates the cleanup greatly. The federal environment minister used the occasion to revise requirements for final storage.

  • The nuclear oversight authority found a new kind of problem in a number of plants: bits of isolation material get loose inside the piping of the primary water loop, and block the emergency sump pumps (this could prevent cooling in case of cooling water loss). Can be solved by retrofitting. But RWE, the operator of Biblis B, one of the affected plants which was just at the end of a revision, wanted to delay a retrofitting until the next revision. After the minister went public telling them to not repeat Vattenfall's mistake, RWE backed off.

At present, 4 of the 17 nuclear blocks in Germany are shut down for various reasons.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:16:23 PM EST
If this is the culmination of three decades of German high technology, i can't wait to understand the long-term results from China*, or India, or...

* china, of course, is unable to produce hand towels which don't fluff off on your face, nor operating wind turbines.  That should be no impediment to the widespread introduction of nuclear power.

PS. In China, widespread means spread very, very widely.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:24:19 PM EST
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If the German nuclear industry had strategic vision, they would have shut down Biblis and Brunsbüttel [another of the plants currently down] at least. (They should be down by 2011 anyway.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 02:04:23 PM EST
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How appropriate, it being the 64th anniversary of the first test explosion at Trinity.

Oh, and apollo 11 lifted off 40 years ago today, but everyone knows that.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 01:55:05 PM EST
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Mig: I have not been able to reproduce your Safari bug. Which version are you using?
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 03:00:07 PM EST
Safari 4 fixed it.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 02:18:09 AM EST
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Control station in the subterranean coastal artillery fortress "Batteri Arholma"(pdf! picture) north of Stockholm. The text says "war" and "peace".

Batteri Arholma is now a museum.

   

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 03:19:35 PM EST
Oh noes! The lever's on KRIG!!!

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 03:49:45 AM EST
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Fred didn't come into work that day...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 03:55:46 AM EST
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Probably sitting in the back seat with seven little girls.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 04:39:11 AM EST
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Did you have to bring that musical excresence to my attention? ;-)

I know the tune is going to be bouncing round my skull today.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 04:55:04 AM EST
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Wipe it with this?



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 05:31:01 AM EST
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Oh yes! Much better ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 06:02:26 AM EST
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I was born on a Thursday.  I'm pretty pro-Thursday.

A quick thanks to you guys who had my back at Booman yesterday.  Now I feel like I have a posse!

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 03:21:39 PM EST
I see the Sears Tower in Chicago is being renamed the Willis Tower.

Either way, you wouldn't find me standing on this viewing platform on the 103rd floor....



Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 04:49:38 PM EST
Or the CN Tower in Toronto...been there done this...



Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 04:58:03 PM EST
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And if that's too tame, there's always the vertigo ride in Vegas:

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 08:21:47 PM EST
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Yeah, that name change is going to fly over like a lead balloon.  

Though there is an underground movement to have it called the Wesley Willis Tower.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 06:13:08 PM EST
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cos you go on that balcony and it gives you the willi(e)s

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 17th, 2009 at 03:56:48 AM EST
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so why am I just back from work and it's already Friday?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 06:08:52 PM EST
(because you're a workaholic)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 06:11:01 PM EST
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because your watch is broken?

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 08:27:44 PM EST
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Or perhaps these car companies are right and public transport is socialist rubbish?

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 08:28:41 PM EST
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