LQD: Afghanistan escalation

by Jerome a Paris
Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 at 09:00:37 AM EST


US Marines launch Afghan offensive

Thousands of US Marines descended upon the volatile Helmand River valley in helicopters and armoured convoys early Thursday morning, mounting an operation that represents the first large-scale test of the US military's new counter-insurgency strategy in Afghanistan.

The operation will involve about 4,000 troops from the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, which was dispatched to Afghanistan earlier this year by President Obama to combat a growing Taliban insurgency in Helmand and other southern provinces. The Marines, along with an army brigade that is scheduled to arrive later this summer, plan to push into pockets of the country where Nato forces have not had a presence.

In many of those areas, the Taliban has evicted local police and government officials, and taken power.



LBJ Goes to War

  • like all Democratic presidents post-WW II, Johnson feared political attacks from the far right for losing a portion of the world to communism; believes if Vietnam falls, he'll be attacked as being soft on communism and his grand domestic agenda would be undermined
  • at the time, Vietnam considered a small matter on a much broader geopolitical front
  • this underestimated the resolve of the Vietnamese to fight to the death to gain independence
  • escalation turns out to be a gigantic mistake; but at the time, the U.S. thought it could outlast the Vietnamese easily


How Not to End Another President's War (L.B.J. Edition)

Johnson's eagerness for quick success in Vietnam rested on a number of fears. First, he worried that if Vietnam went down it would provoke another round of McCarthyism: critics would attack him for weakness in fighting the Communists and blame him for losing Vietnam the way they had blamed Truman for losing China. That could cripple his ability to be an effective foreign policy leader. He also feared that a Communist victory in Vietnam would embolden the Russians and the Chinese to new acts of aggression in Europe and Asia and increase the risks of a nuclear war. Last, but certainly not least, he worried that his hope of becoming a great reform president, who changed the domestic life of the nation, would fall victim to a foreign policy debate over Vietnam.

As Johnson soon learned, despite his protests to the contrary, he could not have guns and butter. And though, as Lady Bird Johnson said, Vietnam "wasn't the war he wanted. The one he wanted was on poverty and ignorance and disease ... ", once he committed himself to winning the war with a broad bombing campaign and 545,000 combat troops, he lost the freedom to build a Great Society. Protests against the loss of American and Vietnamese lives and the commitment of billions of dollars to fight the war drained away the country's energy for large-scale domestic improvements.

And:


Iraqis are too shrewd to fall for an `invisible' occupation

We are at the beginning of the end. On Tuesday, US troops left Iraq's cities, and in two years they will leave the country. Or so the official story goes. In reality, most of the "withdrawing" forces are merely relocating to forward operating bases where they appear to be hunkering down for a long entr'acte offstage in expensive, built-to-last facilities.

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the thousands of troops that will remain in Iraq will be restyled as "trainers" and "advisers"; American aircraft will retain their free hand. Moreover, the Iraqi and US governments' focus on appearances has increased their need for secrecy about the true number and nature of the withdrawals, compounding suspicions of foul play.

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In 1932 as now, rhetoric about withdrawal was aimed at global as much as Iraqi opinion. Instead of attending only to appearances, stoking the fears of a people familiar with nominal independence, the US and Iraqi governments should deliver the reality Iraqis and Americans want: "Yes for independence."

As Johnson said:


"I knew from the start that I was bound to be crucifed either way I moved. If I left the woman I really loved-the Great Society-in order to get involved in that bitch of a war on the other side of the world, then I would lose everything at home. All my programs.... But if I left that war and let the Communists take over South Vietnam, then I would be seen as a coward and my nation would be seen as an appeaser and we would both find it impossible to accomplish anything for anybody anywhere on the entire globe."
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Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 at 12:54:19 PM EST
There will be much to add, on the need to raise opium prices to support the banks, on America's desperate need for a wider war to mask financial collapse, on the mirage of a route to Caspian oil, on the end of empires, and much much more.  

But you have posted the essence right there.  

The End has been laid, and now it unfolds.  

--Gaianne

The Fates are kind.  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 at 06:38:46 PM EST
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apparently the valley they're heading into is littered with the rusting hulks of the russian tanks that gave up the ghost there.

first england, drunk on empire hubris kicked out by a bunch of warlords, then the russkis, obama's hoping for third time lucky.

like moths to a flame.

let's see, 40 million pashtoons that don't even recognise the afghan-pakistan border (like drones that way), and who see america with the same love america felt for the brits when occupied by them.

50,000 troops should be plenty, right?

right?

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 at 10:02:49 PM EST
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I'm glad you posted this, but not sure I have the intestinal fortitude to read all of it.

I heard bits of the news while traveling in the last week, and all I could think of was Yogi Berra's comment that "It's deja vu all over again." For those who haven't yet read it, I recommend Peter Hopkirk's The Great Game. Just change the names around a bit, and 19th-century history becomes pertinent to the 21st.

In a large American airport the other day, I saw numerous very young soldiers, some of them "heading home for R&R, Ma'am," as one young woman told me. In Europe earlier, I saw a number of large white windmills of the Jerome-a-Paris-type, quietly and without oil generating electric energy.

< sigh >

by Mnemosyne on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 at 10:28:06 AM EST
Great juxtapositioning. Everybody thought Iraq was Bush's Vietnam, but it wasn't. Cheney was playing Milo minderbender in a re-run of Catch-22.

But Afghanistan is Obama's Vietnam, he's a fool if he can't see that and and a bigger one if he can see it and not repeat Johnson's mistake.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 at 02:28:40 PM EST


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