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Science magazine | Highlights of the recent literature | 17.07.2009

Corydalis conorhiza, a plant of the poppy family that grows at 2800 m in the Caucasus mountains...

... produces extensive networks of roots that grow upward and laterally into the snowpack that carpets the high slopes until the July thaw. Isotope experiments showed that these roots, which are anatomically distinct from the normal roots that grow downward into the soil, take up nitrogen directly from the snow-pack, thus exploiting a resource that would otherwise disappear down the mountainside during the brief summer.

More here: V.G. Onipchenko et al., New nitrogen uptake strategy: specialized snow roots. Ecology Letters 12, 758, 2009.




You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 10:50:16 AM EST
Wow, that's a brilliant adaptation. Except, how does it take up nitrates from the snow pack ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:10:30 PM EST
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Nitrate or simply captured Nitrogen gas ?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:21:00 PM EST
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Well, the story suggests direct nitrogen, but that would be an astonishing leap in plant biochemistry never before achieved. So I'm guessing that there are trace nitrates to harvest, but where from ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:27:13 PM EST
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Bare soil in winter exchanges N with the air. The snow cover prevents the exchange. I'm not sure in what form it's absorbed by plants in thie case described here. But when the snow melts in the spring, plants grow quickly - I've heard snow called l'azote du pauvre, the poor man's nitrogen.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:34:11 PM EST
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I guess it's a surface area phenomena. If there's going to be any take up of nitrogen into the water/ice, there's a huge contact surface for it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 01:05:44 PM EST
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Good question. From the article:
our investigation does not exclude the possibility that the snow roots are positioned inside the snow pack early on but that the major N uptake only occurs during final melt-out.


You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 03:00:25 PM EST
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Some plants have a symbiotic relationship with microorganisms ((Rhizobia) that can transform nitrogen into nitrates.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 01:20:44 PM EST
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The experiment was carried out using ammonium nitrate (labelled with a traceable nitrogen isotope), so there were two chemical forms of nitrogen that could be absorbed by the snow roots. The authors say they didn't observe any colonization of these roots by mycorrhizae, but haven't formally ruled it out.

You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 02:53:03 PM EST
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Perhaps the plant is a "nitrogen fixing" plant, such as the legumes, which operate via symbionts in ryzomes, IIRCC?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 04:09:14 PM EST
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Granted it's only been 36 hours, but I'm not getting a positive impression of Greece at all. I'm already planning to escape to Italy.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 10:52:06 AM EST
Why? what's happening there?

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 11:09:06 AM EST
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It's probably too greece-ey. ;-))

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:09:32 PM EST
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Well, I'm feeling better now. When I wrote the comment above I was in the middle of setting a personal record for longest length of time between getting off the bus and putting the bags down at the hostel/hotel.

Several things going on:

  1. I've just left Turkey, which I really enjoyed
  2. A bunch of irritating minor logistical problems have crept up the past few days
  3. Frankly, I'm starting to burn out.
  4. My mood and mental energy have been on the decline, I think due to my diet. I need my spinach / beets / blueberries / carrots to keep my brain operating properly, and all of the above were tough to find in Turkey (seems to be some juice places here Athens, thankfully).

I think I'm going to cut this whole thing off mid-October instead of going a full year (would be November 3) - the money is really starting to drain now that I'm on the Euro and I know I can go home happy with zero regrets. Also I'd like to get my life at home at least materially organized (apartment and such) before the holiday season starts in late November.

Speaking of all that, I'm going to have to pick your brain on the wind industry at the meetup in Paris if you're going.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 01:46:59 PM EST
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I also watched "The Day After" alone in my hotel room last night (no hostels in Thessaloniki), which didn't help. I hadn't seen it before and knew it had a place in our culture so I couldn't say no.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 01:53:21 PM EST
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'The Day After' even depressed Reagan. Wikipedia:

Reagan wrote in his diary that the film "left me greatly depressed," and that it changed his mind on the prevailing policy on a "nuclear war".

Watching the film alone though was the right way to see it, in my opinion. Although, I probably would have waited until I got home.

by Magnifico on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 02:24:08 PM EST
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FT.com / Comment / Opinion - Insiders cannot provide answers on finance
The combined results are exactly what you would expect from asking a group of practitioners how to rectify faults that were of their own industry's making. Their ideas are practical, sensible but, despite squeals from an industry that does not wish to appear to be getting off too lightly, uncontroversial. They are supportive of the financial services industry's structure and locus, not questioning of it. They reflect the authors' provenance in concentrating on making a better fist of the system that has failed rather than considering alternative structures and wider options.

This is an inevitable consequence of the government's decision to use in­siders to lead and inform its response. Given the mess that accepting conventional wisdom got us into, it is disappointing that alternative ideas are being marginalised at the very time when they are most needed. This can be illustrated by the Bischoff re­port's recommendation that "the government and the industry should lead an informed public debate on the role of financial services in the economy". It is the right idea, in the wrong hands. The combination of misplaced government policy and irresponsible banking was what caused the system to fail. The notion that those deeply involved in the inception of the problem should now be entrusted with leading the public debate on its solution is astonishing.



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 11:27:09 AM EST
Augar:
Given the mess that accepting conventional wisdom got us into, it is disappointing that alternative ideas are being marginalised at the very time when they are most needed.
It seems that finding a solution is not the goal here.

Morning Joe - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com

Joe Stiglitz stands out because in addition to being on the progressive wing, he's also, as I said, a giant among academic economists. But I think the real story is more about excluded points of view than excluded people.
The goal is to protect vested interests.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 11:33:52 AM EST
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Out of many powerful matches taking place on Yurpeen pitches throughout the crucial month of July, tonight's Fussbalspiel for the SuperCup of Germany has to be the most important.

The Deutsche Meister, Wolfsburg takes on Pokalsieger Werder Bremen in the nearly sold out VW Stadion, with only 27,000 seats remaining.

It is said that the winner is one with the least injuries, which is what both teams hope to accomplish. or am i missing something?

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 01:19:56 PM EST
Wolfsburg takes on Pokalsieger Werder Bremen in the nearly sold out VW Stadion, with only 27,000 seats remaining

how many does it hold ? 30,000 ?? :-)))

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 01:30:03 PM EST
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I know you're all waiting breathlessly for the results.

Werder ist Juli Meister! 1-2.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 05:24:59 PM EST
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So, Party time in Bremen. All the beers are on CH !!!

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 05:44:26 PM EST
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with the added (addled?) caveat that no one here cared, hence no party. as evidenced by the fact that i'm here, sitting before my Bildschirm.

** It was actually a well-played game, and Werder gave notice that they are likely to be dangerous this year, despite losing their superstar Diego and top striker Pizzaro. i enjoyed the match immensely, not least because it gave me respite from investigating Chinese wind turbine insanity. (The Chinese are building every possible type and scale of wind turbine, plus some impossible. Despite not getting the previous generations to work.)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 05:51:00 PM EST
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Are you in Bremen?  I was at a party Friday and the au pair was from Bremen.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 05:48:42 PM EST
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Been here since winter.  and love it. despite not having my own au pair.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 05:53:01 PM EST
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She liked it a lot too - can't wait to get back - she's been here for a year.

It was fun to hear her summations:

America is too expensive.  America is too proud to learn from other countries.  America is obsessed with WWII.  But Americans are far nicer than Germans or other Europeans.  Americans are interested in other people's opinions about everything.  Chicago Oktoberfest is totally legit and authentic.  Chicago Kristkindlmarket is not authentic except for the food.  (I would have guessed the opposite...)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:06:21 PM EST
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America is too proud to learn from other countries, but Americans are interested in other people's opinions about everything?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:47:33 PM EST
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Americans are polite.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:48:38 PM EST
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America the government, ex: we don't have healthcare or paid schooling.  Americans the individulas who live here, ex: only in America do complete strangers ask this poor girl her ideas about politics, etc.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:53:54 PM EST
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Great round up of editorial cartoon on dKos.

Best line "Palin 2012 : The World's gonna end anyway"

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 03:01:43 PM EST
Could swine flu tip the world into deflation? - Oxford Economics
Health experts agree that, while the current flu epidemic that started in Mexico in April 2009 may weaken during the summer, it could re-appear in the autumn, possibly in a stronger form. Using historical benchmarks of previous flu pandemics and of the SARS episode, we estimate the economic impact of a global flu pandemic in the UK. The GDP loss during the six months of the pandemic would amount to around 5% in the UK. That a pandemic is likely to hit the global economy just as it starts to recover from recession could result in the economic impact being larger than would otherwise have been the case, and this could tip the world and UK economies into deflation. UK CPI inflation would fall to around -1% throughout 2010-12 and UK GDP growth next year could be as low as -7½%.  17 July 2009

learn more (pdf)

Hat tip Le Monde.fr

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 03:04:21 PM EST
That yesterday evening I saw Helen's virtual face crying, in the foam, as I drew/drafted Spanish beer at the local fest, my antennae are up, but not stretched.  (;  

Considering  >:

That there was a questionable fire in the city hall basement archives, around 14:30,

That there was no alarm system working today, ---when all the alarms were tested and working last Tuesday evening around 19:00--- and we were lucky to be notified by a socialist, who run in and up to the third floor to tell us they were evacuating,

That employees leave at 14:00 on summer schedule, some are already on vacation and there were only around 50 people in the three story building,

That I had to figure out city hall is a dead-end/cul-de-sac, fire trap with a single street-level access, blocked by bollards that didn't lower today ... because the whole back street is blocked, razed and covered by piles of sand for a pharaonic, unfeasible, double-priced, bus and parking facility, that looks like a crater right now. There is no other way for firetrucks to reach it, except through the crowded, basement garage... where they would ram into the low ceiling from either entrance.  (40 26 04 30N, 3 48 49 97W)

That fire and rescue got there after 14:45, when it was all over and we were all out, probably because city planning has just changed the direction of one-way streets by default idiocy...

That before 15:00 I walked back in through the garage, did smell burnt paper, but the archive door was closed, there was no sign of smoke, nor water, not a hose, nor a fireman, nor a truck around the whole area...

That the recent ex-mayor is indited in the Gürtel corruption investigation and has hearings approaching, where lots of documents will be requested,

That the ruling local PP cannot even spell ethics and the whole party core is crumbling from illegal activities,

I have to consider
being TRIPLY PISSED OFF because they are playing with our lives, ---even if it's only neglect--- besides our justice system and our money.  

Can't wait to hear their canned 'explanations'.


Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 05:49:27 PM EST
Considering that we're lucky you're ok, and still smokin' in your proper denunciations.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 05:57:02 PM EST
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got to see Riley 'Blues Boy' King, last night, 84 years young, and full of juice.

what can i say, he looked like moses, with a belly like buddha, and played like god.

a great performance, a warm bath in humanity, a rocking ride in the world's most comfortable armchair, a glimpse of true royalty.

before he left the stage he showered the audience with guitar picks, like an olden days monarch feeding the poor, i could see in his eyes the wonder of his journey, from poverty and discrimination, to being adored for his massive integrity and pure soul.

one finger vibrato, one millisecond lets you know who's playing, no distortion, great dynamics, the tenderness of a baby sparrow's cry in the naked, plaintive sound of Lucille, his ancient face scrunched into the agonised ecstasy of pure creation, then eyes wide with ironic, goofy surprise when some lick came out perfect, (and he does take risks!), then thrown back in joy, spine arching, smile from ear to ear.

thanks BB, so glad to catch you, such a beautiful show.

If'Madness is the absence of work'(Foucault), then Sanity is the presence of play..

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:21:04 PM EST
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Plus he gets to tour in italy


Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:48:54 PM EST
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When can we bomb Bibi?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:48:16 PM EST
Not that i'm in favor of bombing, but what's Bibi? surely you're not taling about melo's BB King?

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:49:53 PM EST
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Netanyahu.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:51:32 PM EST
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What particular things brought this on today?

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:06:20 PM EST
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Oh, nothing in particular today, although I am concerned that Netanyahu really is losing his mind and may attack Iran.  Which would, of course, be disastrous.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:11:04 PM EST
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I still dont see how that can be done, without travelling through airspace that is essentially controlled by US forces, and hence make the US utterly complicit in the attacks. Either that or end up shooting US aircraft to get them out of the way. Now I know that Israeli Forces have ended up shooting at US forces before, to no effect, but even a right wing Lunatic Like Bibi wouldn't be that mad, woud he?

I'm tired of this backslapping, aint humanity great BS, we're a virus with shoes Bill Hicks
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:23:02 PM EST
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There was a story a while back that the Saudis had given the IDF clearance to use their air space, which I think would eliminate the necessity of getting permission from the US, since they wouldn't have to pass through Iraq.

Can't see them getting permission with the US having all those troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, knowing what it would mean.

I wouldn't put it past the Israelis to shoot our people, of course, given that they've already done it before.  But only if they thought they could get away with portraying it as an accident, which I doubt they could.  That would probably be the end of Israel.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:30:57 PM EST
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As for Bibi's sanity, well, I'm not so sure.  The fact that the idea of bombing Iran is spoken of at all is insane.  Even Bush demonstrated a knowledge of that with his actions, even if he couldn't help doing his cowboy thing.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:32:11 PM EST
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Olympia Snowe, one of the Maine gals, has come out for the public option.

Fuck and yes.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 08:28:13 PM EST


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