UK Jobseekers allowance 10% average earnings

by In Wales
Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 03:17:26 AM EST

From a TUC press release

People on average salaries receive just a tenth of their earnings if they lose their job and claim Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA), a new TUC study reveals today (Thursday).

A TUC analysis of average earnings, unemployment benefit (UB) and JSA rates since 1970 (the first year that average weekly earnings data is available for men and women) has found that the value of out-of-work benefits compared to earnings has declined steadily and is lower now than in previous recessions.

During the 1980s recession, unemployment benefit rates were around 17 per cent of average earnings. The rate fell to around 14 per cent of earnings in the early 90s recession and in 2008 JSA reached a record low of 10 per cent of average earnings.

Even having my salary cut by a third would be tough to take but to go down to £64.30 per week if I lost my job would be unbelievably stressful.


Other benefits are available for those on low incomes but the application process takes time, leaving families with inadequate income.

“Of course the real challenge is to get people back into work again and the Government is doing much, both through stimulating the economy and through initiatives like the Future Jobs Fund.

“But many people are going to spend a long time on benefits, and £64.30 a week is not enough to get through the week. Increasing JSA by as little as £10 a week would make a real difference to millions of families.

“The view that we need low benefits to encourage people into work makes no sense in a recession. The vast majority of the unemployed are desperate for jobs, and need no encouragement.”

OECD figures put the UK as one of the lowest out of work benefit rates compared to other developed countries. Yet still we are attacked for providing too much, acting as a disincentive for people to get into the labour market, to contribute to society as fine upstanding citizens should.

There's something badly wrong with a narrative like that which then ignores real barriers that prevent people from getting through the education system in one piece, and from having full access to participate in all aspects of our society.

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I probably have asked before what kind of benefits and support are available elsewhere in Europe when people lose their jobs.  Indeed, even at the best of times it is arguable that a policy of full employment isn't necessarily the way to go.

The Government recently announced a package to support jobs expansion for young people, to avoid bringing through another generation of people who remain unemployed for life because they were unable to find a job when they first left school/college.

Trades Union Congress -

Responding to the expansion of the Government's Jobs Guarantee today (Wednesday) to young people who have been unemployed for ten months, as part of the Backing Young Britain campaign, TUC General Secretary Brendan Barber said:

'This is fantastic news for the many young people who are in desperate need of work.

'In previous recessions many young people have been left on the scrapheap. Today's announcement shows the Government is committed to not letting this happen again.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 03:25:43 AM EST
What is the Jobs Guarantee?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 03:47:30 AM EST
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In Today's Guardian

Gordon Brown was pressed yesterday to give fresh details of measures he said would create an extra 85,000 jobs and training opportunities for young people.

The prime minister claimed more than 150 employers, including Royal Mail, Centrica and Morrisons, will provide apprenticeships, work or training.

He said the deal meant that any unemployed person aged 18 to 24 will be given an opportunity of a job or training or education within 10 months of going on the dole from April 2010, rather than within 12 months of losing a job as previously promised.

But the Conservatives said Gordon Brown needed to "come clean" on the figures and the number of places on offer, as well as the number of places that would go to those already in work.

The plans include new training for 36,000 Morrisons' employees under 25, and about 5,000 new opportunities, including apprenticeships, offered by big companies. The government said it would help get 45,000 people into jobs in retail, tourism, leisure and hospitality



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 04:45:13 AM EST
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'In previous recessions many young people have been left on the scrapheap.

So instead the same people who got left on the scrapheap in the 1980's recession, and who now will be in their 50's and finding difficulty getting work will be Kicked a second time, and this time their hope of returning to the jobs market will be even more slim. Where's the help for them?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 05:31:17 AM EST
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There is more support for this group in Wales than the rest of the UK.  But research repeatedly shows that if people are made redundant after 50 they are extremely unlikely to find new work, especially so in this economic climate.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 05:36:35 AM EST
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The minimum unemployment benefit in France is approximately €27 a day, or €810 a month. The maximum (according to my calculations), is about €5,750 a month for those who were on a high salary.

The gross minimum monthly wage, by way of comparison, is €1,321.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 04:15:19 AM EST
So the minimum in France is about twice that of the UK.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 04:47:12 AM EST
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Basic unemployment pay in Ireland is just over €200 per week - or c. 3 times the UK rate. This rises substantially for each dependent child and rent allowances may also be payable.  This has led to allegations of "welfare tourism" by Northern Ireland residents and by eastern European migrant workers who have lost their jobs here but who continue to "sign on" even if now resident in eastern Europe again - with anecdotal stories of people flying in on Ryanair once a month to sign on.  There is no hard data to substantiate this as far as I am aware, although the Dept. of Social Welfare do occasionally  report substantial savings from clamping down on welfare fraud with border checkpoints etc.

Apart from the obvious humanitarian benefit, higher social welfare rates have helped to sustain consumer expenditure and the local economy and are probably also a factor in the fact that social unrest hasn't been more widespread in response to the doubling/tripling of unemployment rates.  Less well off people spend a greater proportion of their income on locally produced goods and services and so this is a much more efficient (as well as progressive) form of economic stimulus than tax cuts for the better off would be.

The huge pressure on public expenditure (with €5 Billion in cuts planned) will also put pressure on unemployment benefits rates - especial with inflation running at -5% - but politically it will be almost impossible to cut benefits at a time when we are considering bailing out the banks to the tune of up to €90 Billion.

However the Government may well fall and the current fiscal position is unsustainable, so there are going to be huge pressures and battles ahead...


notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 05:25:42 AM EST
The huge pressure on public expenditure (with €5 Billion in cuts planned) will also put pressure on unemployment benefits rates

Hokey-dokey.

Local job losses translate into loss of local purchasing power leading to a loss of government revenue so let's cut the money flowing to unemployment benefits and cut local purchasing power even more.

Does ANYBODY even remotely associated with ANY government understand dynamic systems?

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 12:05:56 PM EST
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Based on InWales' figures each instance of unemployment loses 90% of that person's local purchasing power.  Using the 1:5 Rule (1 job affects 5 jobs) there's only so much unemployment a local area can absorb before a positive feedback loop (in the negative direction) is initiated.

Wonder what the percentage of job loss in a community it takes before that happens.  

(Yes.  I know it's really a derivative of jobs gain/loss, given-up trying to explain icky math stuff to people.)

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 at 12:01:31 PM EST


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