European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 5 February

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:17:13 PM EST
EUobserver / Clinton calls parliament chief over bank data deal

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has called EU parliament chief Jerzy Buzek to voice concern over a vote due next Thursday in which MEPs could scrap a deal allowing American investigators to track down terrorist funding via European bank transactions.

Ms Clinton's late-night phonecall to Mr Buzek comes on top of other efforts by the US administration to try and convince EU lawmakers not to reject the agreement.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:21:38 PM EST
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Apparently America knows who to call when America really wants to.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:46:25 PM EST
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good point!

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 05:48:08 AM EST
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EUobserver / EU alarmed by pre-election turbulence in Ukraine

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - EU diplomats at internal meetings in Brussels and Kiev on Thursday (4 February) raised concerns about the potential collapse of Ukraine's presidential election process.

Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko and rival candidate Viktor Yanukovych are due to face off against each other in the second round of the presidential vote on Sunday.

But a last-minute change to the country's electoral law, signed into force on Thursday morning, has seen Ms Tymoshenko threaten to declare the poll invalid and to bring thousands of her supporters onto the streets on Monday.

The legal change means that local election commissions in charge of the country's 38,000 or so voting stations will be able to sign off on the results without the approval of commission members nominated by Ms Tymoshenko.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:22:17 PM EST
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EUobserver / France and Germany to unveil 10-year plan

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy on Thursday (4 February) are set to unveil their own economic and political strategy document, the "Franco-German Agenda 2020," in an attempt to put some substance in the widely advertised but not always smoothly working partnership between the EU's two major economies.

The plan, including 80 separate measures, ranges from economic and fiscal initiatives to common school books and simpler rules for Franco-German marriages. It is set to be published at the end of a joint ministerial council meeting of the two countries, chaired by both Mr Sarkozy and Ms Merkel in the Elysee palace.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:23:01 PM EST
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France24 - France, Germany urge A400M military aircraft funding solution

REUTERS - France and Germany called for an urgent solution on Thursday to the funding crisis surrounding the A400M troop plane, Europe's biggest military project, as Airbus resumed talks with government buyers.
The 20 billion euro project is four years late and 11.2 billion euros over budget, threatening up to 10,000 jobs.

EADS unit Airbus is appealing to a group of seven NATO nations for billions of euros in extra support to start full production of the plane, which first flew in December, but governments are reluctant to let taxpayers foot the whole bill.

"Everything must be done to reach a solution. It is a decisive project which must be resolved very quickly," French President Nicolas Sarkozy said after a Franco-German summit.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:43:55 PM EST
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the widely advertised but not always smoothly working partnership between the EU's two major economies.

Remember: French and Germany basically never agree on anything to start with - that's why the relationship matters: by forcing themsleves to find compromises, they find solutions that are usually palatable to others, thus their ability to prevail with such compromises.

It's only when the French-German spread of opinion is not wide enough that this does not work...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:13:46 AM EST
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More directoire running of the EU. What will they do next, meet with Barroso and maybe Brown and then tell van Rompuy it's his job to convince the current trio Presidency to adopt it as their own?

Didn't Germany and France have the rotating presidency in the last few years already?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:42:00 AM EST
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EUobserver / China and EU set for WTO clash over shoes
Romania has agreed to host missile interceptors as part of a new US defence shield, President Traian Basescu announced on Thursday. US President Barack Obama last year scrapped a previous version of the shield, involving Poland and the Czech Republic, which had been fiercely opposed by Russia.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:26:32 PM EST
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EUobserver / China and EU set for WTO clash over shoes
Polish leader Tusk has accepted an invitation by Russian premier Putin to attend a ceremony in April marking the 70th anniversary of the Katyn massacre. The move signals a warming-up of relations, with Russia's unrepentant outlook on the Soviet slayings of Polish officers causing past tensions.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:26:56 PM EST
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EUobserver / China and EU set for WTO clash over shoes
A Russian think tank set up by President Medvedev in 2008, the Insor institute, has said in a report out on Wednesday that Russia should bring in a genuine multi-party democracy, end state control of media and the economy. It also recommended joining a reformed Nato and being open to EU membership.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:27:16 PM EST
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MPs must repay more than £1 million | Top News | Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - Nearly 400 MPs claimed excessive expenses for years, according to a report on Thursday that revived a politically damaging scandal ahead of an election that must be called by June.

The report recommended 390 MPs pay back a total of more than one million pounds in taxpayers' money received for claims ranging from mortgages for second homes to payments granted for gardening work. One claim was for a floating duck house.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:41:54 PM EST
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and one of the biggest spongers was Barbara Follett, a multi-millionairess and junior minister in the Labour cabinet.

Her excuses were just marvellous and her eagerness, her happiness to repay was a wonder to behold. Pure comedy gold.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:31:56 PM EST
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Of the top 10, 8 are Conservative and 2 Labour.  Extremely unfortunately my MP is one of them.

The man never stops working though, I'm not saying he shouldn't have to repay what he owes but he definitely isn't taking taxpayers for a ride in the way that he'll be portrayed as doing.  I have often emailed him late at night and received a reply within 10 minutes - on constituency issues, or responding to my queries about a Bill etc.  I've seen how much work he puts in, he isn't in it for an easy ride to get the money I assure you.  Haven't seen anything from BF though.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 06:23:31 PM EST
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France24 - Romania backs US plan to host anti-missile shield

REUTERS - Romania's top defence body approved a plan by Washington on Thursday to deploy interceptor missiles in the Black Sea state as part of a missile shield to protect Europe, President Traian Basescu said.

The announcement came unexpectedly and Basescu gave few details on the project. But it appeared to be part of the revamped approach taken by U.S. President Barack Obama since he scrapped a Bush-era plan for a radar site and interceptor rockets in the Czech Republic and Poland.

The missile shield has angered eastern Europe's former Cold War master Russia, who sees it as a threat to its own nuclear arsenal and has bristled at what it says is Washington's meddling in its sphere of influence.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:47:30 PM EST
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The missile shield also angered local populations in the Czech Republic and Poland, who were less than happy about replacing the Cold War master with the other.

I wonder how far this can get in Romania.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:13:31 AM EST
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Italian judge fines parents of rapists for failures in upbringing | World news | guardian.co.uk

The parents of Italian children who commit violent crimes face the threat of crushing financial penalties following a landmark ruling by a judge in Milan.

The mothers and fathers of five teenage boys who repeatedly raped a young girl have been ordered to pay her compensation totalling €450,000 because of their failure to give their sons an "education in feelings and emotions". Judge Bianca La Monica awarded the damages against all the boys' natural parents, including those who had separated from their partners and no longer had custody of their sons.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:53:13 PM EST
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Yea, that's typical, now that Burlesquoni's parents are long buried and can't be touched.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:32:50 PM EST
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Not that long. His mother died only 2 years ago. Only a few days ago, Netanyahu paid tribute to her as a Righteous Gentile, telling a story for which I have not managed to find confirmation anywhere else.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:42:06 AM EST
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BBC News - Watchdog head Colman quit after laptop material inquiry

South Wales Police are investigating the former Auditor General for Wales, at the request of his employers, it has been confirmed.

Jeremy Colman, 61, head of the public spending watchdog the Wales Audit Office (WAO) since 2005, resigned with immediate effect on Wednesday.

It is understood there was an internal review after pornographic material was discovered on his work laptop computer.

The WAO confirmed the resignation followed a personal conduct inquiry.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:03:50 PM EST
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that headline was almost exciting then. Drat. Wales, not Ireland.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:33:46 PM EST
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lol.  It is exciting news in this big village of a country. I have friends who work there.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:52:10 PM EST
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BBC News - Greek officials strike over cuts

Customs officials and tax inspectors in Greece are holding a two-day strike to protest against government austerity measures, including wage cuts.

The strike is disrupting Greece's import market, with lines of trucks being held at the country's borders.

The austerity measures have been introduced to try and tackle Greece's huge budget deficit and national debt.

The EU approved the plan on Wednesday, but insisted on inspecting Greece's notoriously unreliable accounts.

Part of the government's plan relies on tax collectors recovering billions of euros lost to tax evasion.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:08:42 PM EST
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There will be strikes and fight in Greece. People are already in financial stress and life is hard...
Did they ever think of taxing those bloody rich to pay for the bill...I don't think so.It is always small working man who has to pay one way or another.
by vbo on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 07:57:16 PM EST
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Activists Breach Security at Kleine Brogel
If you watch this video on YouTube it is very clear that a group of Belgian peace activists not only got inside the wire at Kleine-Brogel Airbase -- where some US nuclear weapons may be stored -- but they also got into the area where the hardened shelters are located (within the shelters are aircraft and WS3 storage vaults with US B61 nuclear gravity bombs.)

It looks like the activists approached Kleine-Brogel from the farms to the south of the airbase. Indeed, another group hopped the fence in November 2009. Apparently, they planned to go out on the runway and get arrested just like the previous group in November 2009. But, according to the group's website "to their surprise, they were able to walk for over an hour on the runway." (One of the press reports suggests it was forty minutes.)

The base is surrounded by signs indicating that the area is patrolled by guard dogs, but Milou was nowhere to be found.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 05:31:41 AM EST
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Polizei setzt auf Selbstschutz
Ein privater Wachdienst sei günstiger gewesen als Beamte dafür abzustellen, sagt Ralf Kunz, Sprecher der Innenbehörde. Jetzt aber will man zur naheliegendsten Lösung zurückkehren, wie sie bis vor etwa 30 Jahren auch praktiziert worden war: Wenn der Vertrag mit der Wachfirma Anfang kommenden Jahres ausläuft, soll die Polizei wieder selbst auf sich aufpassen. Polizeischüler könnten zum Beispiel die Hauswache übernehmen, sagt Kunz - das mache 856.000 Euro weniger Ausgaben pro Jahr.
The Hamburg police had privatised the protection of their own buildings because it was cheaper. Now, thanks to the crisis, they have returned to protecting them themselves because it is, er, cheaper.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 05:37:04 AM EST
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BBC News - Three MPs and one peer to be charged over expenses

Three Labour MPs and one Tory peer will face criminal charges over their expenses, Director of Public Prosecutions Keir Starmer has said.

MPs Elliot Morley, Jim Devine, David Chaytor and Lord Hanningfield will be charged under the Theft Act.

In a joint statement the MPs said they denied any charges and would "defend our position robustly".

Revelations about MPs expenses emerged in May last year with the police going on to investigate a handful of cases.

Labour peer Lord Clarke will not be charged but a sixth case remains under investigation, said Keir Starmer.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 07:15:05 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:17:49 PM EST
EUobserver / China and EU set for WTO clash over shoes

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - EU-China trade tensions were further strained on Thursday (4 February), after China filed a formal complaint with the World Trade Organisation over European shoes tariffs.

The Chinese government said European tariffs "violated various obligations under the WTO and consequently caused damage to the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese exporters."



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:25:13 PM EST
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that's the fourth time that headline has featured. At last the story surfaces. :-))

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:34:43 PM EST
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BofA, ex-CEO Lewis charged with fraud | Reuters

NEW YORK/ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - New York's attorney general charged Bank of America Corp, former Chief Executive Kenneth Lewis and former Chief Financial Officer Joe Price with fraud for allegedly misleading shareholders about the bank's acquisition of Merrill Lynch & Co.

Separately, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission said the largest U.S. bank agreed to pay a $150 million (95 million pounds) civil fine and strengthen disclosure and corporate governance to settle its two lawsuits alleging poor disclosure of Merrill's losses and bonus payouts. The accord requires court approval.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:29:07 PM EST
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complaint pdf here goes mainstream.

The bank bought Merrill after examining its books for just 25 hours, Cuomo claimed. Shareholders approved the deal on Dec. 5, 2008. The acquisition closed Jan. 1, 2009, after Merrill losses had increased by billions of dollars, a change the bank didn't disclose before the shareholder vote, Cuomo said.

"It's the way we approved acquisitions that ticks me off the most!!!" director Chad Gifford later wrote in an e-mail about the last-minute switch, according to a securities-fraud complaint Cuomo filed yesterday in state court in New York. Lehman filed for bankruptcy on Sept. 15, 2008.

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thass ma boy Harold F.'s joint! He on leab ba absinths.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:03:00 AM EST
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Markets hammer euro states as fiscal fears mount | Markets | US Markets | Reuters

LISBON (Reuters) - Investors sold off stocks in Portugal, Spain and Greece and the euro plunged on Thursday as market fears over the fiscal problems of debt-laden southern members of the euro zone widened.

The head of the International Monetary Fund called for painful steps to cut huge fiscal deficits across Europe, saying no country should be under the illusion that it was possible to escape the financial crisis without paying the cost.

The Portuguese government's defeat over a regional finance bill, a climbdown by the Spanish government over pension reform, and protests by tax officials in Greece added to the woes of states struggling to cut budget shortfalls bloated by recession.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:30:24 PM EST
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http://pragcap.com/greece-is-the-word
We are getting a sell-off every morning as Europe goes through the daily ritual of waking up and seeing the cost of default protection rise and rise.  This morning Greece is with STUPID (Spain, Turkey, UK, Portugal, Italy & Dubai) as five-year sovereign credit default swap spreads were recently at 4.23 percentage points, compared with Wednesday's closing level of 3.97 percentage points. That means the annual cost of insuring €10 million of Greek government debt against default for five years had risen €26,000 to €423,000.  In a nutshell, that's 4.23% annually to insure Greek bonds from default so Greece needs to offer 4.23% more interest on their bonds than an Aaa nation to attract investors.

As we expected in yesterday's post, Greek workers were none too pleased with the EU's budget plan for their country and is rejecting the idea of wage freezes on top of wage cuts.  Greece's biggest union is moving towards a mass strike and the public-employee union is planning a job action next week as well.  Tax collectors are striking, customs workers are striking, which is screwing up the airports and shipyards and delaying commerce all over Europe - shades of things to come perhaps?

Napoleon said: "A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonetes" and John Kennedy said: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" and what we are seeing here is backlash as workers of the world have been pushed to the brink for many years and now, as the governments are asking them to take that one final step into the abyss - they are, not surprisingly, pushing back.  That's why my 2010 Outlook was titles "A Tale of Two Economies."

As we expected, Jobless Claims were a disappointment this week with another 480,000 people involuntarily joining the revolutionary masses (and we will get one whopper of an adjustment tomorrow to the unemployed totals!).  Also as we expected, productivity is up nicely - up a whopping 6.2% in Q4 as workers literally kill themselves to keep their jobs.  The 138M remaining workers were rewarded with a 4.4% reduction in unit labor costs, which is how US corporations managed to put up those astounding cost savings in Q4 as that's roughly $60Bn in additional profits wrung off the backs of workers in a single quarter.  Go capitalism!


by vbo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 01:11:30 AM EST
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European shares fall 2 pct; key index below 1,000 | Markets | US Markets | Reuters
LONDON, Feb 4 (Reuters) - European shares fell more than 2 percent on Thursday, on worries about the peripheral economies in the euro zone, and downbeat U.S. economic data.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:31:15 PM EST
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Insider trading case of 2007 led to Galleon | World | Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The cooperation of two former hedge fund managers in a 2007 insider trading case led to the arrest of seven traders and lawyers last November in the wide-ranging Galleon prosecutions, a U.S. prosecutor said on Thursday.

During a sentencing proceeding for former Chelsey Capital hedge fund manager Mark Lenowitz in the 2007 case, Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Fish told the judge that Lenowitz's cooperation led to the prosecution and cooperation of his onetime colleague at Chelsey Capital, David Slaine.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:34:56 PM EST
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Bank of England halts QE | Personal Finance | Savings, Loans & Credit Cards | Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - The Bank of England announced on Thursday no increase to its unprecedented 200 billion pound asset-buying programme, but left the door open to more so-called quantitative easing if economic conditions deteriorated.

It also left interest rates at a record low of 0.5 percent, as expected.

Almost all analysts had predicted a pause in the programme after 11 months of pumping newly-created money into the economy but sterling rose and gilts fell as some traders had positioned for an increase, given the fragility of the economy which has only just come out of recession.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:41:12 PM EST
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The Federal Reserve shut down some of the emergency liquidity programs that were launched to stem the credit crisis sparked by the collapse of the U.S. mortgage market in 2007.

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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:36:06 PM EST
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Stocks, Commodities Plunge, Dollar Gains on U.S. Jobless Claims

and redemptions
Retreating shares outnumbered rising stocks by more than six to one in the MSCI World and by 24 to one on the New York Stock Exchange. Only 11 stocks in the S&P 500 advanced and all but one of the companies in the Dow Jones Industrial Average declined as the 30-stock gauge fell below 10,000 during the day for the first time since November....

Treasuries gained as investors fled to assets perceived as being the most safe, sending the yield on the benchmark 10-year note down as much as 11 basis points to 3.59 percent, the biggest decline since Jan. 12.
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every body now...



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 09:18:36 PM EST
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The Dow closed at 10,002 and on the NBC Evening News the discussion of the news of the 268 point drop introduced the term "Sovereign Default" to its viewers, along with  PIGS, a new acronym for Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain. Zero Hedge has proposed an alternate acronym, STUPIDs for Spain, Turkey, U.K., Portugal, Italy and the Dutch = Netherlands. Commentators immediately amended this to The STUUPIDs by including the USA. As of 1:00AM EST the Nikkei was down about the same amount as the Dow had dropped on Thursday.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:51:21 PM EST
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Market Internals Confirm Primary Wave 3 (DOWN)    Zero Hedge  Posted by Fibozachi 02/04/2010 - 19:45

     Today's price action registered extremely bearish readings across the NYSE TICK and NYSE VOLD (Up-Down Volume Difference). In our oh-so-very-humble opinion ~ equity markets are about to enter the Temple of Doom.


As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:29:34 AM EST
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jillayne (homepage, profile)  wrote on Thu, 2/4/2010 - 6:00 pm
I wish I would have videotaped some of my mortgage broker ethics classes I taught from years 2001-2006. Instead all I have are the nightmares that keep me awake on sleepless, stormy nights.

Once the offer was accepted by the seller, the homebuyer was surprised to learn that there's a third party involved, a "Short Sale Negotiator" who is charging an additional $9,000 fee on top of the real estate commissions paid to both the agent for the seller and the agent for the buyer. The Short Sale Negotiator is demanding that the homebuyer sign an agreement that the homebuyer will be responsible for paying the $9,000 fee.

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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:25:59 AM EST
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ohhhhh schnap

jillayne (homepage, profile)  wrote on Thu, 2/4/2010 - 6:06 pm

Great book to buy. You could buy it used via amazon for under $10. "The Sociopath Next Door." Author says in some Native cultures, once the group identifies the sociopath, they plan a hunting trip, isolate the sociopath and then push him off a cliff. This might not work with the predatory lenders. Someone would notice 100,000 people at the bottom of a cliff.



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:42:07 AM EST
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In the West we make them top dog, and they push everyone else over the cliff.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 07:39:48 AM EST
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We?

Didn't anyone ever pull you aside to ask, "TBG, if Suzie jumps off a bridge, does that mean you got to jump off the bridge, too?"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:08:58 AM EST
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That sometimes depends on the price I've been able to get for it.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:13:15 AM EST
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Jump? I thought we were talking about being pushed. Or are you getting your story straight before questions get asked?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:26:43 AM EST
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I'm talking about generalizing, as a habit. Doesn't make sense of people, ordinarily, and especially during times like these.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 11:41:40 AM EST
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Thanks for the pointer!

Sociopaths are very destructive of basic, common, trust in/of the social order and need to be firmly sat upon.

Pushing them over a cliff hadn't occurred to me ... but it's worth careful consideration for implementing as fundamental Public Policy.  

;-)


No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:02:23 PM EST
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Is that what happens inside The Temple of Doom?  I was hoping someone could explain this new technical term for the stock markets.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 01:17:59 PM EST
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France24 - Debt-laden Dubai discovers new offshore oil field
AFP - The government of Dubai, facing dwindling oil resources and a mountain of debt, announced on Thursday the discovery of a new offshore oil field which it hoped would rescue its limping economy.
  
The ruler of Dubai, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashed al-Maktoum, "heralds the good news to the people of the United Arab Emirates that a new offshore oil field has been discovered in Dubai," a government statement said.
  
The UAE sits on the world's fifth largest proven oil reserves, amounting to 97.8 billion barrels of crude oil. But 95 percent of those reserves are controlled by the leading partner in the federation, Abu Dhabi.
  
The UAE also has 214.4 trillion cubic feet (six trillion cubic metres) of gas reserves, ranking it sixth in the world after Russia, Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United States.
  
Dubai's poor oil reserves, mostly offshore, are expected to be exhausted within 20 years, while it controls only two percent of the country's gas wealth, according to UAE government website.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:44:36 PM EST
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In other words, a heroin addict finds a new supplier.

No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:03:19 PM EST
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Call to wipe quake-hit Haiti's debt | UK news | guardian.co.uk

Thousands of campaigners have signed a petition calling for quake-stricken Haiti's international debt to be written off.

The petition, with more than 15,000 signatures, was handed to the Treasury asking Chancellor Alistair Darling to call on the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to cancel Haiti's 890 million dollar (£560 million) international debt.

Haiti was already one of the world's poorest nations before the devastating earthquake struck.

Up to 200,000 people died in the 7-magnitude earthquake on January 12, including more than 30 UN workers, while leaving thousands of others injured and homeless.

The cost of rebuilding the country's battered infrastructure is expected to cost billions of pounds.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:55:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 WORLD 


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:18:21 PM EST
U.S. begins probe of Prius as Toyota woes mount | Reuters

WASHINGTON/DETROIT (Reuters) - In the latest blow to Toyota Motor Corp, U.S. safety regulators opened a formal probe on Thursday into problems with the brakes of the Prius, the world's top-selling hybrid and a vehicle that has powered the automaker's reputation for fuel-efficiency.

The Nikkei newspaper reported that Toyota would recall an estimated 270,000 units of its new Prius in the United States and Japan to fix the brake problem.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:29:56 PM EST
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Profiteering worries World Cup organisers | Sports | Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - Rocketing prices in South Africa are causing major concern among World Cup organisers, who fear profiteering could deter more soccer fans than alarmist reporting about violent crime.

South African and FIFA officials have angrily condemned what they see as emotional and inaccurate reporting, especially in England and Germany, about the dangers to soccer supporters from some of the world's most violent criminals.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:32:54 PM EST
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U.S. commander sees Afghan progress | World | Reuters

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan said on Thursday the security situation remained serious but was no longer deteriorating, offering a more upbeat assessment than other U.S. military and intelligence officials.

Dire warnings from General Stanley McChrystal and other commanders last summer about the worsening outlook prompted U.S. President Barack Obama to order the deployment of 30,000 additional troops to battle a resurgent Taliban.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:34:00 PM EST
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things will undoubtedly turn a corner in 6 months or so

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:39:58 PM EST
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[Moustache of Understanding Alert]

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:48:57 PM EST
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They must be paying those millions of dollars they promised, to Taliban.
by vbo on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:08:10 PM EST
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http://www.economist.com/daily/kallery/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15393952

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:51:12 AM EST
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Great!
by vbo on Sun Feb 7th, 2010 at 01:20:43 AM EST
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India offers official talks with Pakistan | World | Reuters

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India has offered to hold official-level talks with Pakistan, a top Indian government official said on Thursday, signalling a return to bilateral dialogue suspended after the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

New Delhi blames the attacks, which killed 166 people, on Pakistan-based militants and wants Islamabad to act against them.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:34:19 PM EST
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France24 - India offers to resume bilateral talks with Pakistan
REUTERS - India has offered to hold official-level talks with Pakistan, two Indian television stations said on Thursday, resuming a bilateral dialogue suspended after the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

New Delhi blames the attacks, which killed 166 people, on Pakistan-based militants and wants Islamabad to act against them.

The TV stations, quoting unnamed official sources, said the talks would be held at foreign-secretary level. They did not say when the meetings might to be held.

Pakistan welcomed the offer.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:46:06 PM EST
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Foreign food aid trickles into Haiti's black market | World | Reuters

PORT-AU-PRINCE (Reuters) - Blocks from where U.S. and U.N. soldiers distribute sacks of rice to Haitian women in earthquake-shattered Port-au-Prince, street vendors are openly selling rice by the cup from bags stamped with U.S. flags.

In the early days after the January 12 earthquake that killed up to 200,000 people and left more than a million homeless, food handouts were often chaotic in the capital. On a couple of occasions, U.N. soldiers fired tear gas into hungry crowds jostling for a limited amount of goods.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:35:44 PM EST
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Discussing Iran sanctions hinders diplomacy - China | World | Reuters

PARIS (Reuters) - China told other world powers on Thursday that discussing broader sanctions against Iran was counter-productive, striking a blow to a Western push to rein in Tehran's nuclear programme.

Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi told a conference during a visit to France that Tehran's negotiating position was evolving and he wanted to see more direct talks with Iran.

"To talk about sanctions at the moment will complicate the situation and might stand in the way of finding a diplomatic solution," Yang said.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:36:12 PM EST
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France24 - French PM says time's up for Tehran, calls for strong sanctions
AFP- French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said on Wednesday he would ask the United Nations to adopt a new resolution against Iran over its nuclear programme, which would include "strong sanctions".
   
"The Iranian regime has not taken our offers of dialogue ... the time has therefore come to react," he said.
   
"We will seek in the United Nations the adoption of a new resolution comprising strong sanctions and the European Union will also equally assume its responsibilites," he added.
   
Iran is already under three sets of sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council for its refusal to stop enriching uranium, a process that can produce fuel for nuclear reactors but also fissile material for an atomic bomb.
   


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:49:08 PM EST
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How many times have we had this headline over the past 5-7 years??

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:51:56 AM EST
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I hold no brief for the PRC but in this case I think they have a point.

Iran needs electrical power to industrialize and they are, willy-nilly, going to develop sources of power generation.  What the West should be doing is encouraging them to develop sustainable wind and solar power generating infrastructures rather than pouring money down the rat-hole of nuclear power.

The question of Iranian nuclear weapons is beside the point.  IF they want 'em and are willing to direct the resources to getting 'em ... they'll get 'em - nuclear power stations or not.  


No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:17:34 PM EST
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SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea has eased some curbs it placed on black market trading, the South's spy agency said on Thursday, rolling back part of what was widely seen as a policy blunder that caused unrest in the authoritarian state.

The North's impoverished citizens have increasingly turned to the black market for essentials not provided by the broken state distribution system after a famine in the late 1990s killed about five percent of the population.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:37:36 PM EST
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Colombia judge fuels doubt over Uribe re-election | World | Reuters

BOGOTA (Reuters) - A top Colombian judge has recommended that the country's highest court reject a proposal to allow President Alvaro Uribe to seek re-election in May, local media reported on Thursday.

The judge's report cast new doubt on the political future of Uribe, a key Washington ally popular at home for his U.S.-backed security drive against leftist rebels and with Wall Street for his pro-investment policies.

Citing court sources, local newspapers and radio reported Constitutional Court Judge Humberto Sierra had recommended in a confidential paper that his fellow magistrates rule against the re-election proposal due to legal irregularities.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:37:58 PM EST
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Uribe plans to run and win.  My prediction is that he will pull it off.

I am also wishing to be proven wrong.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 10:36:51 PM EST
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Iraq condemns lifting candidate ban, MPs to meet | World | Reuters

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's government called on Thursday for a special session of parliament and branded as illegal an appeals panel decision to suspend a ban on candidates suspected of ties to an outlawed party until after an election.

Political wrangling is heating up ahead of the March 7 vote, seen as a crucial test for Iraq as it emerges from years of conflict unleashed by the 2003 U.S. invasion and tries to make peace between once dominant Sunnis and the Shi'ite majority.

The appeals panel said candidates barred by the Justice and Accountability Commission -- set up to ensure Saddam Hussein's Baath party did not return to public life -- could stand in the poll, but would still have a case to answer.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:38:34 PM EST
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BBC News - US missionaries in Haiti charged with child abduction

Haiti has charged 10 US missionaries with child abduction and criminal conspiracy for allegedly trying to smuggle children out of the country.

If convicted they face lengthy jail terms, says the BBC's Paul Adams at the court hearing in Haiti's quake-hit capital, Port-au-Prince.

When stopped on the border last Friday, they said they were taking the children to a Dominican Republic orphanage.

But it has emerged some of the 33 youngsters had parents who were alive.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:07:25 PM EST
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It is entirely possible they had the best of intentions, but they were criminally naive. what on earth led them to believe they could or should do such a thing ?

they will be hung out to dry as a warning to others. Not that it would matter, those with bad intent would never do something so stupid.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:42:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
what on earth led them to believe they could or should do such a thing ?

Baptists from the USA. They were probably wacko proselytizing fundies, and thought Gawd approves.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:25:37 AM EST
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Absolutely. "These children are so in need of God's love", said their spokeslady on TV.

Which God, of course, needed the agency of these fundies to be able to lavish. Having just slipped up in the expression of His love by putting the kids through a 200K-death earthquake.

God is such a wanker.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:31:50 AM EST
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Have just had  a book by one of my old professors turn up in the post entitled "Forgivness, how religion endangers morality" I'm sure he'd have had something to say on the matter.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:39:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
craptastic freedom fighter epic ends abruptly

"The critical question is: At what level will the American public be comfortable with Google sharing information with NSA?" said Ellen McCarthy, president of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance, an organization of current and former intelligence and national security officials that seeks ways to foster greater sharing of information between government and industry.

Read more...

GOOG still in China.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:31:27 PM EST
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"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 10:40:12 PM EST
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How about at no level?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 05:54:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Oops - too late.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 07:41:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:18:53 PM EST
EUobserver / Palm oil plantations are now 'forests,' says EU

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The European Commission and some EU member states hope to redefine palm oil plantations as "forests," according to a leaked document from the EU executive.

Rules governing the use of biofuels were supposed to be designed to sort out the sustainable versions of the technology from their dirtier cousins following a massive backlash against it in 2008. At the time, an avalanche of reports revealed that many forms of the fuel source both increase greenhouse gas emissions and put pressure on food prices.

The production of palm oil was one of the most egregious examples of the problem.

In the wake of the biofuels boom, there has been a rush to chop down rainforests to make way for palm oil plantations. The UN says that the growth in such plantations is now the main cause of rainforest destruction in Malaysia and Indonesia.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:24:13 PM EST
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Oooh, yuk. The very worst of corrupt politics and big money

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:43:17 PM EST
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France24 - Swedish PM wants answers on Baltic Sea dumping

AFP - Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt on Thursday requested explanations from a previous government on Russia's release of toxic waste into Swedish waters in the Baltic Sea, his spokeswoman told AFP.

Swedish public television SVT reported Wednesday that between 1991 and 1994 Russia dumped chemical weapons and radioactive waste off the shores of Gotland, a Swedish island in the Baltic Sea.

The network also said the Social Democrat government that came into power in 1994 was informed of the dumping by military intelligence in the late 1990s, but failed to act on the information.

The current centre-right government "didn't know" about the issue, Reinfeldt's spokeswoman Roberta Alenius told AFP.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:45:12 PM EST
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BBC News - Close encounters with Japan's 'living fossil'

It soon becomes clear that the giant salamander has hit Claude Gascon's enthusiasm button smack on the nose.

"This is a dinosaur, this is amazing," he enthuses.

"We're talking about salamanders that usually fit in the palm of your hand. This one will chop your hand off."

As a leader of Conservation International's (CI) scientific programmes, and co-chair of the Amphibian Specialist Group with the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN), Dr Gascon has seen a fair few frogs and salamanders in his life; but little, he says, to compare with this.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:05:37 PM EST
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Nitpick: a bird is a closer relative of dinosaurs than a giant salamander...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:29:31 AM EST
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Yes. I thought the comparison strange.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:41:37 AM EST
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Douglas Carswell MP: Energy crisis and BBC bias

Last night's 10 O'clock News saw another classic illustration of BBC bias. 

Reporting on the looming energy crisis Britain faces, the BBC kept referring to the "failure of the markets" to provide energy.  The idea that we are not producing enough energy because of "the markets" is absurd.   

The energy sector is one of the most heavily regulated parts of our economy.  Energy producers need the permission of officials at almost every turn.  Suppliers are unable to supply enough energy precisely because of the rules that force them to shut down power plant, purchase renewables, and jump through all manner of regulatory hurdles.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 07:14:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
LOL. Or sigh... I wonder if he wants an unregulated coal plant next to his home.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:58:08 AM EST
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No doubt he'd prefer it to one of those nasty windmills spoiling the view...

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:59:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Suppliers are unable to supply enough energy precisely because of the rules that force them to shut down power plant

Hasn't he ever heard of load balancing?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:59:30 AM EST
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I'm certain he means closing plants not meeting environmental or safety standards.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 09:00:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
its obviously all made up by the nasty communists at the BBC (As apparently is global warming)

He seems to have come up with opposite ideas to John Gummer who has an equally low lying constituency.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 09:02:26 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:19:10 PM EST
Should flags be banned at rock festivals? | Oddly Enough | Reuters

LONDON, Feb 4 (Reuters) - Organisers of Glastonbury Festival, the world's biggest green field arts and music event, launched a survey on Thursday to see whether flags should be banned from the main stage at this year's event.

Fans are being asked to take part in an online vote on the festival's website (www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk ) to decide whether to outlaw banners following complaints that they spoil the view for some of the crowd.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:39:31 PM EST
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Study fails to link saturated fat, heart disease | Global Industries | Health & Drugs | Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - The saturated fat found mainly in meat and dairy products has a bad reputation, but a new analysis of published studies finds no clear link between people's intake of saturated fat and their risk of developing heart disease.

Research has shown that saturated fat can raise blood levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, and elevated LDL is a risk factor for heart disease and stroke. Because of this, experts generally advise people to limit their intake of fatty meat, butter and full-fat dairy.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:40:43 PM EST
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France24 - Headscarf-wearing officer to appear before disciplinary committee

A female security agent in Paris who was suspended for wearing the Islamic headscarf on the job will appear before a disciplinary committee, sources close to the case have said.

The hearing was scheduled for Thursday morning, but a request by the officer for the appearance to be postponed was granted, according to a police source.

A new date for the hearing has not yet been specified.

Nora B. was suspended in November 2009 by Paris police headquarters after being reprimanded several times by her superiors for wearing the Islamic headscarf or veil at work.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:43:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Turkish girl, 16, buried alive for talking to boys | World news | guardian.co.uk

Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an "honour" killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys.

The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman.

Police made the discovery in December after a tip-off from an informant, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported on its website.

The girl had previously been reported missing.

The informant told the police she had been killed following a family "council" meeting.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:50:45 PM EST
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oh, what's wrong with such people ? Such barbarism.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:48:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Me and my homeopathic overdose | Hadley Freeman | Comment is free | The Guardian

I had a great weekend, thanks for ­asking. A bunch of like-minded souls and I got together in a frosty square in central London and took a massive overdose. Now, I should add at this point that I have not joined an extreme Christian cult (I couldn't - the Christian bit would upset my ­parents too much), and, as you can guess from the fact that I am writing this, the overdose was unsuccessful. I was at one of the many "mass homeopathic overdoses" taking place around the country to prove that homeopathy has as much effect on one's health as ­being hit in the face with a twig.

Whereas many of my fellow overdosers were protesting against the availability of homeopathic remedies at Boots, this doesn't bother me so much. If I felt outrage at the thought of Boots selling something that didn't live up to its promises, I'd have taken to the streets over several moisturisers years ago. ("Really? Literally reverse time?") What does offend me, though, is that this stuff is available on the NHS.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:51:28 PM EST
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BBC News - Last speaker of ancient language of Bo dies in India

The last speaker of an ancient language in India's Andaman Islands has died at the age of about 85, a leading linguist has told the BBC.

Professor Anvita Abbi said that the death of Boa Sr was highly significant because one of the world's oldest languages - Bo - had come to an end.

She said that India had lost an irreplaceable part of its heritage.

Languages in the Andamans are thought to originate from Africa. Some may be 70,000 years old.

The islands are often called an "anthropologist's dream" and are one of the most linguistically diverse areas of the world.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:04:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Nitpick: all languages change, there is no 'world's oldest'. Maybe we could speak of the longest separation from other languages.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:33:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Just as in biological evolution.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:38:20 AM EST
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There are actually some species that remain stable for a long time. Unwritten languages don't do that.

And language evolution is much more "bush like" than the treelike biological evolution ; also, there is no real environmental pressure on language features...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:46:39 AM EST
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There are actually some species that remain stable for a long time.

Even when visible features remain stable, the genetic code does change.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 08:59:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Some of the meaningful bits of the genetic code do not change at all for a very long time... How many words of any modern IE language would be directly understood by a proto-IE language speaker ? Whereas not a few proteins are identical across all mammals.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 10:06:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The genetic code is redundant, thus even if the proteins remain the same, there is random change. (But OK 'evolution' probably doesn't apply to that.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 10:27:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
But then, at any time within a population, those redundant bases are already diverse... It's not as if the genetic code of a species was well determined down to the single base level.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:11:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The code may not change, but bits of it are switched on or off within an individual organism to produce different types of 'building' (e.g. protein manufacture). I'm not sure if the switching is retained when the code is passed on. I guess not, otherwise the most ancient genome bits (i.e pre-homo sapiens) would not have survived.

Language mutates in several different ways. Sound mutation (e.g. the hardening or softening of consonants) takes place over a predictable generational period - accurate enough to be able to trace the historical beginnings of mutations. Words, as units of meaning, also reveal the precise time of two languages' earlier meeting, with meanings changed or differences adopted (loan words) or pidginized. Word elision also appears to increase with time.

Structural changes such as in sentence construction seem to be the slowest. A proto-IE speaker might possible recognize some branches of the modern IE family of languages.

What interests me is that the study of genomic mutation, language mutation, and archeology can now be cross-referenced to more accurately date migrations, however caused.

OTOH ATinNM will no doubt come swanning in and point out the inaccuracy of my insights ;-) He is, after all, Uncle Babel...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 10:59:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Am I supposed to "Black Swan," "White Swan," or "Leda and the Swan" swanning in?

No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:38:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You'll know what to do when the time comes ;-) Trust me...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 01:05:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
funny pictures of dogs with captions

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 01:26:56 PM EST
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The basic difference between language evolution and species evolution is that there is no selective pressure on languages : the survival of a language is pretty much independant of its words, structures, etc.

And linguistic evolution in the future is not really predictable beyond a few already started sound changes.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:16:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I would disagree strongly with the assertion there is no selective pressure on languages. That's all there is!!

The feedback system for the exchange of meaning ensures constant pressure on language. In cultures where mass media saturation is high, these pressures are all powerful.

In cultures exposed for the first time, on a broad front, with another culture, these pressure are also powerful.

The only thing one can predict for the future is further elision of word and phrase length, because the process of mass acceptance of a shortened version of the meaning is now so rapid.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:47:45 PM EST
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Mass media exposure has only existed for a very short time, and has frozen languages (by lowering diversity) more than anything else. Shortening of words and sentences ? not necessarily. Languages with short words create multisyllables, sooner or later.

Again, as long as the language can express advanced thoughts, how it expresses them is of no importance. All language, given enough vocabulary, can express those thoughts ; the "evolution" of language is never that a language dies because it can't express thoughts that another can, unlike biological evolution. There is no "fitness" of languages.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 11:51:07 PM EST
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Evolutionary fitness is not about "change or go extinct" either (though such methapors were common in the popularisation of natural selection that also led to Social Darwinism). So, while I'd agree with you that most language change is not adaptation to the environment, the shortening of words or the import of words to describe f.e. artifacts of newly acqwuired technologies (from the plowshare to the cell phone) could be considered adaptation.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 03:27:49 AM EST
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The thing is, evolution of species is a specific kind of evolution with specific conditions. Thinking that it is, and has to be, similar to the evolution of other things, such as social mores, economic systems, languages, leads to oversimplifications and errors.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 06:27:20 AM EST
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BBC News - Obama condemns Uganda anti-gay bill as 'odious'

S President Barack Obama has criticised as "odious" proposed anti-homosexuality legislation in Uganda.

The bill calls for long jail terms or the death penalty in some cases of homosexual intercourse.

It is "unconscionable to target gays and lesbians for who they are," he told politicians and religious leaders at a prayer breakfast in Washington.

Homosexual acts are already illegal in Uganda and punishable by up to 14 years in prison.

The bill would raise that penalty to life in prison.

It also proposes the death penalty for a new offence of "aggravated homosexuality" - defined as when one of the participants is a minor, HIV-positive, disabled or a "serial offender".



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:06:45 PM EST
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BBC News - Mongolian sumo champion Asashoryu retires after brawl

Mongolian sumo champion Asashoryu has announced his retirement following allegations he attacked a man outside a Tokyo nightclub last month.

"I feel heavy responsibility that I have caused trouble to so many people, Asashoryu said.

The wrestler's stable master said he could not remember what happened on the night because he was too drunk.

Asashoryu, the first Mongolian to become champion, has been described as the "bad boy" of sumo for his conduct.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:08:05 PM EST
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He had it coming...

Asashoryu is like a classic box star, an impulsive man who just can't keep himself out of trouble. All his outside-the-ring scandals are rather minor issues by Western celeb scandal standards (including stuff like wearing a suit in place of kimono on a public event or playing golf!), but with them he's always given food to Japanese traditionalist critics. It seems he always thought that the large number of his fans will count stronger than the criticism against him, but this time it looked bad for him.

I was more annoyed by his antics inside the ring, though: the extra shoves after he already won. Those had their psychological effect in the next meetup only as long as he didn't start to consistently lose against some stronger opponents -- like the other yokozuna, Hakuho (also a Mongolian), whom he could only beat in playoffs lately. Now that he won his 25th tournament in January (which made him all-time third), so he probably had less motivation to fight on, too.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:52:43 AM EST
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Sumo Headlines and Sumo News - Japan
"I always hear the term hinkaku from everyone, but to be completely honest, when I climbed on top of that dohyo, I become a monster. I just always felt that I had to go at it as hard as possible. I was the type of person that you had never seen before, and the result was a lot of controversy for everyone."

(Hinkaku is the sumo equivalent of gentlemanliness.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 09:42:05 AM EST
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Here is Asashoryu's strongest critic, who sat at the YDC as token female member:

(04/02) Yokozuna council's strong push behind Asashoryu retirement

Makiko Uchidate, an outspoken critic of Asashoryu who recently ended 10 years of service on the yokuzuna council, said, "We were called staunch enemies, but I am relieved that he made this decision. In the future, whether it is in Japan or another foreign country, I would like Asashoryu never to forget to show respect. He lacked respect toward Japan, sumo and his work. If he can learn this he will be praised again."

Ugh.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 09:50:04 AM EST
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Secular society upset by Judge Cherie decision - Home News, UK - The Independent

A senior judge could be called on to investigate a complaint that Cherie Blair handed down a more lenient sentence to a man who had been convicted of fracturing a person's jaw because he was religious.

Mrs Blair, a devout Roman Catholic who sits as a part time judge under the title Cherie Booth QC, spared Shamso Miah from jail last month after he was convicted of assaulting a person at a bank queue in east London.

The 25-year-old from Redbridge, north-east London, was given a two-year suspended sentence instead of a six-month jail term because, Mrs Blair said, he was a "religious person" who had not been in trouble before.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:11:02 PM EST
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Damn right. If anything a supposedly religious person should be held to higher standards given their moral superiority and punished accordingly.

I think god wishes to punish the Blairs, she is making them mad.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:52:07 PM EST
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Court orders boy to clean bedroom and do chores - Europe, World - The Independent

A boy who went on a rampage at home in the Republic of Ireland has been ordered by a judge to do household chores for the next six months.

Judge Clare Leonard yesterday told the boy, 15, he must attend school, not lose his temper at home when his parents say "no", attend sporting clubs, "clean his room and do cooking".

The teenager had pleaded guilty at the Children's Court to causing criminal damage at his south Dublin home on a date last May, when his mother had to call the gardai over his unruly behaviour.

Garda Jamie Ryan had told the court that the boy "became aggressive and broke cups and plates".

"He entered his bedroom and pulled curtains from the wall and punched a hole in the wall," he said, adding that the boy said "sorry" when he was charged.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:12:05 PM EST
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Scientists read the minds of the living dead - Science, News - The Independent

Scientists have succeeded in reading the mind of a man thought to have been lacking all awareness after a traumatic head injury, opening a host of questions about what it is to be a sentient person and how we should treat people in his condition.

The 29-year-old, who had been presumed to be in a vegetative state for five years following a road accident, was able to communicate with the researchers by thought alone, giving "yes" and "no" answers to questions. Using an advanced brain scanner, researchers were able to detect that he was thinking, and interact with him, even though it proved impossible to establish any communication at the bedside. It was the first time since his injury in 2003 that he had managed to make contact with the outside world.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:12:59 PM EST
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Has this been tried in Westminster?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 07:44:22 AM EST
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I think that is the next stage of the trials.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:54:24 PM EST
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 PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:19:49 PM EST
Anger as Cherie Blair spares devout man from jail - Times Online

Cherie Blair has been reported to the office overseeing judges' behaviour for apparently sentencing a man convicted of assault more leniently because he was religious.

The National Secular Society wrote to the Judicial Complaints Office on Friday complaining that Mrs Blair -- a prominent Roman Catholic -- suspended the six-month prison sentence passed on Shamso Miah, a Muslim who broke a stranger's jaw in row over a bank queue, on the ground that he was devout.

"We think this is discriminatory and unjust and we wish to make a formal complaint about it," wrote Terry Sanderson, the president of the NSS.

Today Mr Sanderson told The Times that the complaints office had acknowledged his letter and confirmed that it was going to investigate the case.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:59:04 PM EST
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New Humanist (Rationalist Association) - discussing humanism, rationalism, atheism and free thought
There are perhaps two issues here.

The allegation of discrimination is serious. However, there is no actual evidence in this case that an atheist would have received less favourable treatment in seeking to similarly mitigate their sentence.

An allegation of discrimination needs more than an "implication" of words which may not even be reported correctly or may even be taken out of context.

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New Humanist (Rationalist Association) - discussing humanism, rationalism, atheism and free thought

Here, do note I am an atheist; I also dislike the Blairs generally.

But there is no evidence here that Cheire Booth acted improperly in discharging her judicial function.

Indeed, one would find every day judges giving mitigation for a variety of reasons based on the pleas in mitigation made in particular cases.

Reported statements in court by judges can be misreported. Bad court/legal journalism is as common as bad science journalism. One should always be sceptical of court or any reporting which confirms one's prejudices.

For me, unless there is evidence of discrimination (a similar crime with similar facts with good character being pleaded in mitigation, but on a non-religious basis, leading to a harsher punishment) then this appears to be a non-story.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:56:26 PM EST
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E&P In Exile: AP Scoop on Palin and Taxes
(ANCHORAGE)-- Records show that Sarah Palin has not paid any property taxes on cabins that have been built on two back country plots partially owned by the former Alaska governor.

It's unclear how long ago the structures were built, but records show that there are no tax assessments for the buildings. Property taxes were only paid on the land -- and not the structures themselves.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:49:18 PM EST
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Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:51:06 AM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 03:13:45 AM EST
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At 100 bitterness units that's a serious IPA. And at 8% too, I envy anyone in the SF area getting hold of that at their fest today.

Still, beer fest for me tomorrow during afternoon and early evening. So if I visit the OT tomorrow night, you know where my head'll be at.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 04:18:27 AM EST
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