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Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 10:48:02 AM EST

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"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 10:52:55 AM EST
Well, I've had connectivity since lunch - over a 3G modem which works if I hang it from the attic ceiling <sigh> - but I haven't been able to access ET from my desktop browsers.

I'm perplexed:

  • Neither Firefox nor Safari would let me in. Firefox running in Parallels on Windows did for a moment, then stopped. Turning off images and javascript made no difference. Nor caches.
  • Lynx and curl - text clients - would allow me in from the same machine, so it's not a TCP/IP problem.
  • I can get in now, and nothing I know of has changed.
  • My iPhone could get in on when connected over EDGE (2G) but not when connected on 3G.
  • All that time I could get to BT, so it doesn't seem to be a server problem per se. ET and BT use same server and database system. I don't see any obvious reason they'd behave differently.

It could be freaky DNS behaviour, but that would mean different subsystems on the Mac were using different DNS. This is not impossible: I've never really looked into exactly how resolution works in Mac OS X because I've never cared.

Anyone got any better ideas?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 10:57:44 AM EST
Weirdness happening everywhere today. Couldn't get into ET at all for a while, had some DNS errors and broadband drop outs, and the BBC news site is saying that it's been having technical problems too.

I suspect it's evil spirits, or weather, or both.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:13:27 AM EST
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Well, I get complaints from people every do often about not being able to get it, so I'm hoping this is the same problem they're having and now I have a chance to diagnose, maybe.

Or maybe it is the weather.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:18:18 AM EST
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Its got to be a server problem, if you look at eurotrib via nslookup on command line, then the dns record converts almost instantaneously. (Booman also downloads straight away, where eurotrib seems to be throwing a 9-12 second delay in serving pages back)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:21:50 AM EST
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But curl and lynx are responding immediately. Safari and Firefox aren't slow, they're not happening. My problem may not be the same as yours, of course.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:35:39 AM EST
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well its not so much slow, more theres a pause, which if its long enough, could be causing things to time out. I get a similar delay with IE8, the initial DNS connection and handshaking happen, then nothing. after that the page actually turns up 10-12 seconds later  (if our problems are actually similar)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:51:42 AM EST
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Corresponds to mine. Firefox gives me a "Waiting for eurotrib.com" message during the pause.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:04:42 PM EST
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For an hour or two before your comment I had 10-15 second pauses before ET came back on any command, e.g.: preview, post, click on a comment I wish to view on "My comments" etc.  Connection to ET was not so much a problem, or I didn't notice/wasn't bothered. I run XP and, as of this AM Firefox .17? (latest & greatest and it didn't even ask, just updated and informed.)

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 09:48:25 PM EST
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it didn't even ask, just updated and informed

Go to Tools->Options->Advanced->Updates and change the setting from Automatically update to Ask me what I want to do.

If you want to know the version number, Help->About Mozilla Firefox.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 01:56:05 AM EST
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It shows Firefox 3.0.17  "Firefox for Google Packs" ?!
I had Firefox 3.5.15? before and they used to ask.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 10:15:06 AM EST
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No problem whatsoever on this side of the Atlantic...

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:36:34 AM EST
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Nor here, at the moment.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:39:39 AM EST
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here's fine, been out all afternoon though.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:46:20 PM EST
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A number of people report sporadic access problems with Firefox. It may be due to their connections, or to FF 3.5, since I never get locked out with Firefox 3.0.

But ET has got noticeably slower for quite some time now, there's a wait for each page. With Safari under Windows, it's barely quicker. IE brings it up about like Safari.

BT comes up immediately in any of these three browsers.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:44:27 AM EST
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This whole thread is strange, as today I had to notify techs at Gerson Lehrman Group, where i do a fair amount of wind consulting, that i haven't been able to access the site for 24 hours, with the same symptoms as reported here.

of course, as soon as i sent the email, i was able to log into the site, without having changed a thing.

It's going to be really funny when the net goes down for a coupla days. Ummm, wrong word, funny.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:13:29 PM EST
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Mercury retrograde <hides>

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:20:19 PM EST
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Have you heard about Oil City confidential ?



keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:30:40 PM EST
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I look forward to that.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:52:41 PM EST
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Interesting, Im looking forward to this too



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:21:58 PM EST
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Hmm, he seems reminiscent of Cap'n Jack Sparrow. Maybe Johhny Depp shoulda done him as Ian Dury instead of Keef.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:36:02 PM EST
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He's the cinematic pirate of the next decade.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:37:49 PM EST
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Met him once (friend of a Walthamstowe film school colleague at the time of Kilburns) Seemed like a pussycat to me, but one swallow...He did appreciate irreverence - though that was the patois of the time. Same guy also knew Viv Stanshall - very funny but quaint - and Legs Larry, with whom I had some amusing incidents, especially involving outdoor festivals - aah the Summer of Love. But no homoerotic relationship should be deduced. At that time musicians and filmmakers were in a virginal dance of potential cooperative creativity.

It should be remembered that, at the time, movie cameras had only been recently freed from cumbersomeness by Monsieur Coutant. Suddenly movie technology could encompass spatial improvization.

It was of course our old friend serendipity. Music on film, previously, had always been a performance specifically for the camera, or within the physical limitations of a performance on stage, live or in a studio. But essentially rehearsed. The Sixties was the first time that Rock'n'Roll could just happen and be filmed. Where the presence of cameras was less interesting than the event, and thus cameras were more invisible - or deprioritized.

That, to me, is documentary film. That what is happening within the frame is more important than the fact that it is being filmed. Camera as pen. Hard to give rules about what is 'documentary' - but most people used to know it when they saw it.

Reality TV is not documentary. The presence of cameras is priority number one. The 4th wall is constantly acknowledged.

Documentary as a genre is as 'false' as Reality TV. In both, 'reality' is constructed in the editing room. I'm not saying one is better, just that they should not be confused. They both observe behaviours, but documentary has much more intellectual insight. imho.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:26:16 PM EST
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Posted that a couple of weeks ago.

You must have been otherwise engaged!

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:33:56 PM EST
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I remembered that picture at the fornt, but it was a night when I was having connection issues (rain doth make it crackly) so I wasn't doing youtubes for a while. Must have missed it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:37:42 PM EST
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The odd thing is that I was on the other side of the "tracks" in Essex, I never really knew what was going on down on canvey Island.

I 'spose I was too posh, but I never went south of the A127 ('tween Billericay and basildon). Too uncivilised and dangerous, they're right in that trailer, there was always an undercurrent of violence; now we'd describe it as chavvy.

And Canvey was the fag end of the Essex universe, when you were the lowest of the low, when even Basildon or dagenham didn't want you, you went to Canvey. Reject Island. All run down council estates and abandoned, the UK equivalent of a trailer park. You didn't go there unless you had business and there was no good business to be had on the island.

Back then when the refineries were there, there were so many volatiles leached into the ground from bad practices that it actually had permafrost. It had one bridge on and it might as well have had a skull and crossbones flag on it for all the welcome you got. and always, the Essex skies looked down. Cold and hard and craxy.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:50:35 PM EST
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European Union Condemns Killings in Honduras:

The European Union, yesterday, issued a press release condemning the assassination resistance members and de facto government supporters and called on authorities in Honduras to conduct a "deep and transparent" investigation. The press release singled out the killings of Karol Cabrera, daughter of a journalist, and Walter Trochez, an LGBT activist and resistance member.


"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:24:34 AM EST
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:31:33 AM EST
Photobucket

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:42:02 AM EST
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Britain's cold snap does not prove climate science wrong | Leo Hickman and George Monbiot | Environment | guardian.co.uk

It's as predictable a feature of the British winter as log fires and roasting chestnuts: a national outpouring of idiocy every time some snow falls.

Here's what Martyn Brown says in today's Express:

As one of the worst winters in 100 years grips the country, climate experts are still trying to claim the world is growing warmer.

There's a clue as to where he might have gone wrong in that sentence: "country" has a slightly different meaning to "world". Buried at the bottom of the same article is the admission that " ... other areas including Alaska, Canada and the Mediterranean were warmer than usual." But that didn't stop Brown from using the occasion to note that "critics of the global warming lobby said the public were no longer prepared to be conned into believing that man-made emissions were adding to the problem."



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:54:07 AM EST
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Photobucket

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:42:43 AM EST
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Oh that is just beautiful.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:15:56 PM EST
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I've had a ball with this weather, it makes for some great photos.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:20:57 PM EST
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wow, just wow...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:46:47 PM EST
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I don't know if you applied any processing, but many would be tempted to lift the exposure. It says more like it is.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:52:45 AM EST
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Whoa, that's cool, Moby Dick on land.  (Global Warmering?)  Wait, with glasses on it looks like a distant relative of the white whale, the rare off-white hillock.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:18:28 PM EST
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Yesterday in Colorado Springs it was nice. This afternoon it got cold and looked like snow, and the  started blowing at near hurricane force.

Overnight low is predicted to be -18C, tomorrow's high might reach -9C... I plan to huddle inside with the cat.

by asdf on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:05:45 PM EST
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Contributing factor to the cold snap in Europe:

That wandering red thing is the Gulf Stream.  Instead of heading over to Europe it's meandering up along the west coast of Greenland.

dKos diary here.

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 01:27:51 AM EST
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OK, I'm posting even odds Ms Hamacher Schlemacher rallies (out of state) grassroots blood and treasure for Harold Ford, vice chairman of Merrill Lynch [!], NY senate candidate to unseat Gillibrand in 2012. It'll be a dog eat dog primary.

Who's got a nickel?

PS. funniest sentence: "New Yorkers are unusually welcoming to newcomers..."

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:08:51 PM EST
The discussions between Mr. Ford and top Democratic donors reflect the dissatisfaction of some prominent party members with Ms. Gillibrand, who has yet to win over key constituencies, especially in New York City.

This should constitute Gillibrand's chief qualification for re-election. Perhaps not in NYC & NYS.  Just what we need, a black sycophant of financial interests in the Senate to match a President of similar description.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:23:18 PM EST
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That's 2010 dog eat dog.

Dodd's retirement is already in wikipedia. CT will be voting for new bride of Frankenstein. Mr Obama sure can't catch a break.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:23:08 PM EST
Job Seeking?

Rope down a wind turbine blade.

From a new year's card i got today from Rope Partners, courtesy of the NYT.   Those are Gamesa 2MW turbines in Pennsylvania.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:32:01 PM EST
My climbing is at least 20 years to out-of-date to do something like that.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:58:22 PM EST
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Amurkans are sooo inventive.

(C,mon, it's as funny as all the cat pictures, no?)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:53:54 PM EST
What is a jiffy pop thingy thing?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:02:10 PM EST
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Looks like some method of making popcorn over a stove in a shovel-ready disposable cooking container. I've never understood how people would not appreciate that most tools have multiple uses. Adaptation. It is very wasteful to make tools disposable.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:13:23 PM EST
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an aluminum frying pan filled with popcorn.  from the 50's or 60's.  when the pan gets hot enough, the popcorn does its thing.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:15:31 PM EST
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And in the meantime it makes a super wall ornament.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:16:59 PM EST
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Time lapse

The Lehman Bros of popcorn.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:18:25 PM EST
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Tremendously exciting!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:25:58 PM EST
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When I was 7 I thought that was just so cool.

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:33:05 PM EST
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And this tells us what about the American consumer? ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:48:41 PM EST
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That s/he has failed to progress beyond the mental age of seven?

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:05:59 PM EST
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You said it...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:37:53 PM EST
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wow, I so want to get one. D'ya reckon they're on sale in London somewhere ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:11:09 PM EST
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You can still find them on occasion at markets in small towns. Never liked 'em myself.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:17:32 PM EST
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sure doesn't compare to organic Hopi popcorn popped in sesami garlic oil.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:46:30 PM EST
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yeah, that sounds good.

every try popcorn with a sprinkling of kelp powder, brewers' yeast, and cayenne?

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:15:07 PM EST
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yes, tho without the kelp and brewer's yeats.  ;-))  depends on the movie, i guess.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:57:21 PM EST
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Throw in some raw peanuts while yer at it.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:48:40 PM EST
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Hi you, happy new year, and yes, that is delish, 'specially spiced.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:58:16 PM EST
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Nowadays it's microwaveable packets...
by asdf on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:01:22 PM EST
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Anyone have book recommendations on the topic of American cultural myths, and the same thing for Christianity? Post-trip I'm looking for the intellectual angle.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 12:58:18 PM EST
The Holy Barbarians by Lawrence Lipton (1959) is an interesting read, if you can find a copy.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:08:54 PM EST
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Air Conditioned Nightmare; Henry Miller?

The Book of Mormon; Joseph Smith?

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:21:04 PM EST
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You dirty troll.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:59:16 PM EST
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watch who you calling troll, you globe-hopping frisco dandy.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:58:57 PM EST
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at Sea of Dreams, NYE 2010

(some of my friends throw big parties at the year's turning.)

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:02:02 PM EST
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For a review of a traditional evening in greater downtown Frisco, Go Here

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:11:14 PM EST
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Newsweek had an essay about modern American myths a few years ago: History: How American Myths Are Made.

The story of workaday men and women rising to greatness is one of America's most cherished myths. As a term, myth is much misunderstood; hearing it, many people take the word to mean "lie," when in fact a myth is a story, a narrative, that explains individual and national realities--how a person or a country came to be, why certain things happen in the course of a life or of history, and what fate may have in store for us. Myths are a peculiar hybrid of truth and falsehood, resentments and ambitions, dreams and dread. We all have personal myths running through our heads, and some chapters would withstand fact checking while others would fail miserably...

Krugman wrote last year in the NYT about Debunking the Reagan Economic Myth.

...the furor over Barack Obama's praise for Ronald Reagan is not, as some think, overblown. The fact is that how we talk about the Reagan era still matters immensely for American politics.

Bill Clinton knew that in 1991, when he began his presidential campaign. "The Reagan-Bush years," he declared, "have exalted private gain over public obligation, special interests over the common good, wealth and fame over work and family. The 1980s ushered in a Gilded Age of greed and selfishness, of irresponsibility and excess, and of neglect."

Contrast that with Mr. Obama's recent statement, in an interview with a Nevada newspaper, that Reagan offered a "sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing."

Maybe Mr. Obama was, as his supporters insist, simply praising Reagan's political skills. (I think he was trying to curry favor with a conservative editorial board, which did in fact endorse him.) But where in his remarks was the clear declaration that Reaganomics failed?

For it did fail. The Reagan economy was a one-hit wonder.

Along similar lines, William Blum writes Reagan Didn't End the Cold War.

Ronald Reagan's biggest crimes were the bloody military actions to suppress social and political change in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala and Afghanistan, but I'd like to deal here with the media's gushing about Reagan's supposed role in ending the cold war. In actuality, he prolonged it. Here is something I wrote for my book Killing Hope.

It has become conventional wisdom that it was the relentlessly tough anti-communist policies of the Reagan Administration, with its heated-up arms race, that led to the collapse and reformation of the Soviet Union and its satellites. American history books may have already begun to chisel this thesis into marble. The Tories in Great Britain say that Margaret Thatcher and her unflinching policies contributed to the miracle as well. The East Germans were believers too.

When Ronald Reagan visited East Berlin, the people there cheered him and thanked him "for his role in liberating the East". Even many leftist analysts, particularly those of a conspiracy bent, are believers. But this view is not universally held; nor should it be. Long the leading Soviet expert on the United States, Georgi Arbatov, head of the Moscow-based Institute for the Study of the U.S.A. and Canada, wrote his memoirs in 1992. A Los Angeles Times book review by Robert Scheer summed up a portion of it:

Arbatov understood all too well the failings of Soviet totalitarianism in comparison to the economy and politics of the West. It is clear from this candid and nuanced memoir that the movement for change had been developing steadily inside the highest corridors of power ever since the death of Stalin. Arbatov not only provides considerable evidence for the controversial notion that this change would have come about without foreign pressure, he insists that the U.S. military buildup during the Reagan years actually impeded this development.

Stephen Zunes has another take on this at CommonDreams, Don't Credit Reagan for Ending the Cold War.

Perhaps the most dangerous myth regarding the legacy of the late President Ronald Reagan is that he was somehow responsible for the end of the Cold War.

The Soviet Union and its Communist allies in Eastern Europe collapsed primarily because their governments and economies rested upon an inherently unworkable system that would have fallen apart anyway.

Perhaps most recently, we have former White House Press Sec. Dana "what's the Cuban Missile Crisis?" Perino, saying `We did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush's term.'.

Then, you have the whole realms of mythology of how the U.S. is a Christian nation. So, this quick survey only scratches the surface.

by Magnifico on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:00:42 PM EST
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anything by vonnegut...

grapes of wrath

of mice and men

(steinbeck)

working, by studs terkel.

the good war, ibid.

CH's choice of 'air-conditioned nightmare', spot on.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:49:41 PM EST
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Reading "The way we never were", debunking the myth of the traditional American family.  
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:58:05 PM EST
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One Market Under God by Thomas Frank
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:54:45 PM EST
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Another rec for that here.

More mythologically - anything by Heinlein or Niven/Pournelle.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 07:25:04 PM EST
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Considering your recent journey, meta-myth On The Road by Jack Kerouak, if you have not already read it.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 10:27:21 PM EST
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Educated Americans have also read "Huck Finn" and "The Grapes of Wrath," which are also trip books that set up cultural myths.

It depends on what you're looking for. For example, "Walden" is strictly factual, but sets up a mythical view of New England--sort of like Abbey's "Desert Solitare" does for Utah. And they both are reactions to modern times (1830-ish and 1970-ish modern)...

by asdf on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:16:20 PM EST
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Read it on the beach at Goa. Knew exactly what he was talking about. At the time.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 02:33:33 AM EST
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As our progressive pundits continue their search for a proper drumroll to accompany changing our economic system, and In Wales continues to dream of a life on the road drumming, we present The Drumbassadors.


hat tip Ms. Sophie.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:37:18 PM EST
Ensnaring...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 01:49:48 PM EST
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We've got half of our band, we aren't far from going on tour...

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:05:32 PM EST
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  1. a band name is needed 2) a title for the tour 3) Potted bios of the members. e.g. What is your favourite breakfast?

  2. ETopia and the Anodynes

  3. 'Battle of the Blands'

  4. Weetabix


You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:33:42 PM EST
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I hope band members can have different breakfasts.  Weetabix makes me bloated.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:39:30 PM EST
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It is important to express individuality in order to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. This is how boy bands work.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:46:07 PM EST
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The Cool one, the Pretty, possibly gay one, the Angelic One AKA the Virgin, and the Quirky One with a hint of badness.

Though a rarity, the Boy Band Quintet includes an additional member called the Comedian. This type of band, rare though it is, (I repeat) can be found performing at the end of piers and is usually accompanied by the distant sound of fun fairs.

Boy Bands are roughly culturally equi-valent to Powerpoint Presentations.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:53:17 PM EST
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Oh  nice. I get this band going and now you are trying to kick me out. And not very subtlely either.

Enjoy your weetabix, Sven.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:06:25 PM EST
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No no - I am supporting individuality. Breakfast is à la Carte. I see no reason why band members cannot simultaneously play different tunes. Not of course in the Roland Kirk way - individually multi-melodied - but in the cacophony sense. In my opinion few have attempted and succeeded with popular cacophony. It's a genre that lies largely unexplored.

And yet our aural lives are surrounded by it.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 06:30:03 PM EST
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Oh ok then. I'm off to practise my drumming on the litter bins in town.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 02:37:24 AM EST
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You should investigate litterbin tuning, steel-drum style ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 02:58:23 AM EST
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I thought this was all about cacophony?  If the bins are tuned, will it not detract from that?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 07:07:13 AM EST
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I reckon freestyle bin bashing is best like our Cardiff guy Ninjah does. He's awesome.  He's on youtube too but I can't access it at work.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 07:14:49 AM EST
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Cacophony comes from multiple players playing different tunes or rhythms simultaneously ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 07:27:13 AM EST
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A bit more precise than just noise?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 07:38:43 AM EST
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Oh yes. Noise is sound without apparent meaning to the listener, other than that it exists. 'Signal' is noise with apparent meaning. From this we get the signal-to-noise ratio. The higher the ratio (more signal/less noise) the more apparent meaning is conveyed.

It depends on who is listening. My mother would have considered 'drums and bass' as noise. She would not have put any effort into trying to understand it. It was, to her, meaningless. She liked the Beatles though because they could 'carry a tune'.

Somewhere between signal and noise, is cacophony: "I think there's meaning, but I am not sure. It's too complicated. Is it worth my effort in concentration?" The job of the Cacophonist  is to persuade listeners that it is worth the effort.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 08:50:48 AM EST
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i remember at 13 or so seeing my first live electric bands, and the compulsion to 'get more' they engendered.

reflecting on the phenomenon over the years, i concluded that amid the pointless noise of normal city life, the overwhelming daily barrage of aural bother/meaninglessness/pollution/cacophony, here was the same volume, the same knee trembling power, but ordered...

placed into patterns.

wonderful!

i accept cacophony as an (un)necessary evil, enervating though it is, it does give value to silence. best of all is ordered sound with human variation, and if it's artistic enough, it can be scaled up in volume, and still stay true, though like driving a porsche on a slick mountain road, the greater the thrill, the higher the fall, and the more likely.

i heard a good podcast the other day, an interview with the other ravi shankar daughter, (not norah jones), and she spoke about her music, and playing with her father.

she said that while she plays the written structure of the piece, she can be 'miles away' but when it's her turn to improvise, she has to be totally present.

i find this to be true.

certainly an ability to tolerate cacophony is an advantage in this day and age, but chaotic, jumbled sound can be quite destructive to one's hearing sensitivity, shutting the nuanced part down, much as working in a fishmonger can cancel out one's sense of smell.

...and that's why people are gradually losing their appreciation for 'real' music, and settle for loops of soulless deep-frozen moments, usually in meters that are reductive rather than polyrhythmic.

we have evolved all kinds of complex toys and games more than a simple african villager, yet his/her ability to enter music, and manage semi-conflicting pulses in rhythm and dance that are much more sophisticated than the braindead europap we are subjected to.

just as they usually have better teeth too, their relationship between their golgi relexes and their soundscapes is much more integral and whole than ours, suggesting a similar degradation.

more silent background, less cacophony = emptier canvas to observe better and create on.

theory no. 44448847464890!

there a few moments where intentional cacophony can be used as an artistic flourish, such as the end of 'a day in the life' by yer luvvable moptops.

but a whole evening of it?

earplugs please! it takes all sorts...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 11:22:36 AM EST
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I am merely pursuing an interesting fictional idea, but there are practical reasons why we should think about noise, and when it becomes signal.

The dissonances of Stravinsky's Le Sacre du Printemps were not well received at its premiere in 1913. It was not representing the Paganism that they knew and loved. It was noise.

Later, however:

Composer and conductor Leonard Bernstein, in his Six Talks at Harvard that he called The Unanswered Question, said of one passage, "That page is sixty years old, but it's never been topped for sophisticated handling of primitive rhythms...", and of the work as a whole, "...it's also got the best dissonances anyone ever thought up, and the best asymmetries and polytonalities and polyrhythms and whatever else you care to name."

I am not convinced that dissonance somehow does us physiological harm. It doesn't release those painkillers in the brain that rhythm, harmony and melody can release. We don't know what biochemicals dissonance might cause to be released. Perhaps its been studied - but I've never seen it referenced in my perusal of the area. Just because dissonance doesn't make us feel good, there is no reason that say it's bad.

And many of us spend all day with dissonances of different kinds. It is useful to be able to deal with the increasing dissonances. If communications in the Old Unconnected World were a belt, today's environment is Lycra. All over containment.  What we need is dissonance training  ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 01:14:38 PM EST
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Were you aware noise comes in designer colors?

No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 01:38:14 PM EST
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"Coz pink is the new kinda lingo
Pink like a deco umbrella "

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 05:48:18 PM EST
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it does look better in french!

Sven Triloqvist:

I am not convinced that dissonance somehow does us physiological harm. It doesn't release those painkillers in the brain that rhythm, harmony and melody can release. We don't know what biochemicals dissonance might cause to be released. Perhaps its been studied - but I've never seen it referenced in my perusal of the area. Just because dissonance doesn't make us feel good, there is no reason that say it's bad.

it is a useful skill to be able to tune out unpleasant or annoying sounds one cannot control, but not all have the talent!

maybe in some there is no collateral damage, but i suspect for the majority this is not so.

./mediateletipos))) / aural culture

Wildlife sound recordist Chris Watson investigates the man-made noise pollution which is becoming increasingly invasive in our lives and in our environment, affecting both humans and wildlife. He explores what noise is, the impact of man-made noise and the possible long-term consequences if we don't turn the volume down.

In the oceans, increasing levels of background noise is disrupting long-distance communication among whales. On land, studies of Great Tits have revealed how birds near busy roads sing at higher frequencies than those in nearby quieter woodlands.

In 1996 the European Commission issued a Green Paper which stated that an estimated 20 per cent of all EU citizens were exposed to noise levels that scientists and health experts considered to be unacceptable, at which most people become annoyed, sleep is disturbed and health may be at risk. Noise is a health issue as well as a nuisance. Recent studies have demonstrated excessive risks of hypertension in people living near airports, even when asleep.

Following the Green Paper, the European Commission issued a directive for member states to map noise levels of major cities. Today, noise, like air and water pollution, is an environmental issue which governments and policy makers cannot ignore.

i think it dumbs people down, leave alone the aesthetic issue.

Sven Triloqvist:

If communications in the Old Unconnected World were a belt, today's environment is Lycra.

more like velcro!

put a perfumier in a slaughterhouse, you think his art will improve?

as for dissonance, o yeah, there is sooo too damn much of it, people do it for its own sake, a weird desire to push the envelope i guess.

the jewel in the mud is consonance/resonance, imo, and dissonance is just unresolved chaos. as in anything even too much consonant resonance, musical over-literalness, would be soon dull, like a melody with only octaves for harmony.

so, more mud...

as we evolve we take on more adventurous games, look how long it took for the flattened fifth to be accepted in yurp! centuries, wasn't it?

so what seems like discontinuous unpatterned chaos now to my culturally entrained sensibilities may one day entrance me with its beauty. i can't help being a product of my musical environment, in fact i love it...

i always thought you were visiting from the future, sven, lol.

:)

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jan 7th, 2010 at 02:44:09 PM EST
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Isn't there some step called rehearsal before a tour?

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:54:59 PM EST
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The USP of the band is no rehearsals.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:55:41 PM EST
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That's why the Tour title has been changed, Eddie Izzard style, to 'Excrutiating'

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:57:00 PM EST
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Ha !! we now discover that Iris Robinson MP, the religious homobigot who believes that  homosexuality is a short step on the road to child abuse, has now announced that she had an affair.

Monogamous homosexual = sinner
Hate filled adulterer = good christian

Ah, I love the smell of religious fervour in the morning. It smells of hypocrisy

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:28:08 PM EST
"God forgives her. Why can't you?"

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:42:21 PM EST
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God always had a strange sense of humour. Personally I like my sinners flayed and salted.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:49:45 PM EST
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Simon And Garfunkel - Mrs Robinson Lyrics - Mrs Robinson - Lyrics On Demand
Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes
Put it in your pantry with your cupcakes
It's a little secret, just the Robinsons' affair
Most of all, you've got to hide it from the kids

Coo, coo, ca-choo, Mrs Robinson
Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson
Heaven holds a place for those who pray
(Hey, hey, hey...hey, hey, hey)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:03:34 PM EST
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BBC News - Iris Robinson attempted suicide after an affair

During his interview Mr Robinson was also asked if his financial affairs were under investigation.

In reply he said he had always acted "in the most professional and ethical way."

He also confirmed he had received a letter from the BBC which he said contained no allegations against him but "asked questions which are easily answered."

The BBC Spotlight programme has confirmed it has been investigating matters involving Iris Robinson for some time.

In a statement the BBC added that allegations have been put to the Robinsons and their response is awaited.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:07:48 PM EST
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Karl Rove is getting divorced for the second time. So much for the sanctity of marriage...
by asdf on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:21:41 PM EST
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Faisal Islam on Economics - Happy Days for beleaguered Brown could mean a March poll

Thumbs up and "ayyyyyyyy!" was the message from Number 10 today.

Yes, Henry "the Fonz" Winkler chose today's day of madness to drop in on Downing Street to help launch a campaign to improve public attitudes to kids with special educational needs (Ed Balls calls it the "My Way" campaign (!)).

The irony here is that despite everything, Gordon Brown may well be on the verge of some relatively Happy Days, at least for himself.

There's a big date circled in the Number 10 calendar, and it's also circled by George Osborne's closest aides. Tuesday 26 January 2010. On that day, we will get official confirmation that the recession is over.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:40:54 PM EST
Yes, you've got to say that brown had a bood Xmas. The tories seem to have prematurely peaked cos as soon as they started announcing their policies everybody looked at them and went "eurghhh !!"

there is still a problem that people don't want to vote for Brown, but they don't seem to want the tories. It's very interesting right now. If Brown mutters he might leave after the election, Labour could actually win. But nobody in the labour party wants to step forward and take repsonsibility for what still seels a likely kicking.

A hung parliament looks more likely by the day.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:55:45 PM EST
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We can only hope.  But I'm not seeing any evidence in the polls to suggest movement on Labour or the Tories.

Quite the contrary, it looks remarkably stable.  Still Tories at about 40, Labour in the high-20s, Lib-Dems in the high-teens.  It looks a lot like what happened during September and October with Obama and McCain.

Brown could catch a break.  I'm not sure how big a reaction to "the end of the recession" he's expecting, since I think people's voting attitudes only really tend to shift when they see the jobs market shift.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:12:17 PM EST
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I think it's just a slight change in the nature of the breeze, too soft for polls just yet.

Tho' the positives I reported just got nixed by a real dumb stunt by Hoon and Hewitt, not so much has-beens as never-wases, texting around in broad daylight for a challenge to Brown; exactly what labour doesn't need right now. amateurs

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:31:00 PM EST
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Labour needs to cut the crap about these leadership challenges.  They elected Brown, and, for better or worse, he's their guy.

Rally-round-the-flag time.  Election's only a couple months off.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:43:52 PM EST
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Analytics X Prize - Home
The Analytics X Prize is an ongoing contest to apply analytics, modeling, and statistics to solve the social problems that affect our cities.  It combines the fields of statistics, mathematics, and social science to understand the root causes of dysfunction in our neighborhoods.  Understanding these relationships and discovering the most highly correlated variables allows us to deploy our limited resources more effectively and target the variables that will have the greatest positive impact on improvement.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 02:48:39 PM EST
No points for pointing to the big banks and their control of government, though.

Sorta reminds me of The Evelyn Wood Johnson Foundation, (or whatever), advert on NPR. "Underwriting research to find and cure the root cause of homelessness." One suspects it will be a long and inconclusive quest.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 10:34:21 PM EST
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A friend reviews Avatar for the online SF Mag, Strange Horizons.

Beware plot spoilers

Even more than an anti-capitalist film--which it clearly is in its simplistic way--Avatar is a film with serious reservations about corruption of warrior values within the military-industrial complex. Quaritch--Stephen Lang--has Miles as his first name, the Latin word for soldier, which makes him potentially a representative of all soldiers. He is a man in love with death, in particular the death of other living creatures. Quaritch carries large knives with him in his military exoskeleton--it's probably worth remembering that General George Patton always wore pearl-handled revolvers in his tank, and that Patton is, as portrayed by George C. Scott, very much the movie archetype to which Cameron is referring back, and who won his spurs in colonial conflict. Aliens--for which he made his cast read Heinlein's Starship Troopers--was a film in which the military life was viewed--not uncynically but with considerable respect; here we notice from the start such negative attitudes among Quaritch's command as their complete lack of respect for a crippled former comrade.

It is not just because of our liking for the Pandorans that we cheer when the military--engaged in a mission that is specifically linked to Iraq by Quaritch's "shock and awe" language--gets its collective arse kicked. Quaritch is specifically seen as demonic in that he tempts Jake with the restoration of his legs. The battle in which he is defeated, and the fight in which he is killed, are also set pieces full of money shots; this is an American film in which we cheer the defeat of a U.S.-style military machine by armed insurgents. The progressive intelligentsia should remember how deeply the film is hated by the Christian and neo-conservative right in America.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:46:50 PM EST
Or you could just watch Star Wars again...

by asdf on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:29:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:57:13 PM EST
hey J, you should read your own blog sometimes.   ;-))   (Do we get the same new year's e-cards?  PS, nice of the bank to sponsor the gallery visit.)

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:05:03 PM EST
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you know, I actually opened it from your post above... but this is the time when I open lots of links received during the day (so much is censored at work, it's a pain - the company uses WebSense and they've tightened their criteria: for instance the website for EWEC2010 is impossible to access right now from work...) and re-dispatch them around, and post them here...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:27:59 PM EST
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interesting data on inter-year variability of wind: the last 15 years in Germany:

From Spiegel which has more wind-related statistics.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:07:14 PM EST
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Notice how the variability decreases after the first few years.  Could that be because the interpretation of the statistics got better, even as measurement technology improved?  Could it be that the resource was systematically overestimated in the early stages, as it is in every market?

Tune in next week for a post from my chief, who wrote the book on German wind statistics.  (well, probably not.)

By the way, there is a very cool wind measurement device available for the iphone, taking background sound levels on the mic.  accuracy somewhat included, but it is very cool.

Sail Karma

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:19:10 PM EST
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this is meant to be meteorological data, not production data. It should be provided under constant methodology (ie, I presume, average of a large number of anemometers that have not moved).

I don't see any trend in the data, which is as it should be.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:50:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Got it, know the data, i'm talking about met data.  better interpretation and more data points, with better anemometer calibration led to more accuracy.  allowed for better corelation to the long term, and the so-called 100% long term average each year's compared to.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 06:03:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
has put on line lots of its old papers for free download:
http://search.rand.org/search/query-meta?v:frame=form

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:57:58 PM EST

The Urengoi Pipeline
Prospects for Soviet Leverage
By: John Van Oudenaren

This report examines the implications for Western security of Soviet energy exports to Western Europe. It considers energy as a potential instrument of leverage against Western Europe. It examines the Soviet record in using economic leverage and Soviet motives for promoting large-scale energy exports to the West, and it outlines several scenarios in which the Soviets might embargo exports or otherwise use energy as an instrument of political pressure. It then examines the European side of the relationship. It analyzes Western Europe's vulnerability and likely responses to two kinds of political pressure: (1) a sudden interruption of energy supplies aimed at forcing political concessions, and (2) a more gradual, long-term effort to encourage political accommodation through economic dependence. It concludes that neither of these kinds of pressure is likely to be used successfully by the Soviets, but that Western Europe's energy vulnerability is nonetheless likely to remain a factor in U.S.-West European relations.




In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:01:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"Obama Has Kept the Machine Set on Kill"-Journalist and Activist Allan Nairn Reviews Obama's First Year in Office

The interview starts at 23:00.  I couldn't get the piece to embed using their method so here it is.

 

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 03:59:25 PM EST

"Obama Has Kept the Machine Set on Kill"-Journalist and Activist Allan Nairn Reviews Obama's First Year in Office

In an extended interview, award-winning journalist and activist Allan Nairn looks back over the Obama administration's foreign policy and national security decisions over the last twelve months. "I think Obama should be remembered as a great man because of the blow he struck against white racism," Nairn says. "But once he became president...Obama became a murderer and a terrorist, because the US has a machine that spans the globe, that has the capacity to kill, and Obama has kept it set on kill. He could have flipped the switch and turned it off...but he chose not to do so." He continues, "In fact, as far as one can tell, Obama seems to have killed more civilians during his first year than Bush did in his first year, and maybe even than Bush killed in his final year."



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:33:34 PM EST
Obama seems to have killed more civilians during his first year than Bush did in his first year

Is that a fair comparison looking at the state of the world now and then? and does that include civilian deaths due to the Iraq sanctions?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 04:55:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In fact, as far as one can tell, Obama seems to have killed more civilians during his first year than Bush did in his first year, and maybe even than Bush killed in his final year."

The bit you quoted is an unfair comparison, but it sets up the punchline that I bolded. Which is the comparison that really does Obama no favours as that was when we perceived Bush-Cheney to be at their most psychotic.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:23:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sometimes truths can only truly be revealed when stripped of their sugar-coating. That's a brutal paragraph which leaves no room for a defensive but.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:19:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I was reading about the Reconquista (Spain kicking out the Moors) and its being classified as a Just War by the Pope et al. Ironic perhaps that Obama brings up that concept in his discussion of current events...
by asdf on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:35:53 PM EST
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