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A time to point fingers and name names

by ceebs Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 07:56:47 AM EST

And so the Coalitions Comprehensive Spending Revue has arrived, with all the subtlety of a Viking longboat, burning and looting the social provision in the UK. The greedy and stupid have been put in charge and the lacklustre and ineffectual are providing cover. Johann Hari in his article today has hit the nail right on the head.

Johann Hari

Margaret Thatcher is lying sick in a private hospital bed in Belgravia - but her political children have just pushed her agenda further and harder and deeper than she ever dreamed of. When was the last time Britain's public spending was slashed by more than 20 percent? Not in my mother's lifetime. Not even in my grandmother's lifetime. No: it was in 1918, when a Conservative-Liberal coalition said the best response to a global economic crisis was to rapidly pay off this country's debts. The result? Unemployment soared from 6 percent to 19 percent, and the country's economy collapsed so severely that they lost all ability to pay their bills and the debt actually rose from 114 percent to 180 percent. "History doesn't repeat itself," Mark Twain said, "but it does rhyme."

George Osborne has just gambled your future on an extreme economic theory that has failed whenever and wherever it has been tried.

The cuts are a shopping list of the morally indefensible and stupid of which the worst is possibly the decision to time limit payments to those suffering from illness. Friends who are suffering from depression have been driven into panic, they knew it was going to be bad, but are now seeing that it appears that they are being blamed for the financial problems of the country. The Comprehensive Spending Review also announced that residents in care homes will no longer be eligible for the High Rate Mobility component of Disability Living Allowance meaning the most disabled people face a far bleaker future and significant loss of independance. Gideon should be whipped through the centre of every town for the unnecessary suffering he's caused to some of the most damaged and desperate members of our society.


Now if you've joined the Tory party you're irredeemably stupid anyway, so I'm not going to expect any  apologies from them, but there are various hangers on and others who need to get out and say sorry.

The Liberal Democrats

Waves of people voted for fairness, not the lick-spittle cowardice that has been demonstrated in this fawning following of disaster capitalism that the senior party gets you to go along with. Is the watered down changes to the voting system that you have got for this betrayal of your constituents really worth the trip back to the wilderness that is surely coming your way in the very near future?

Scottish Labour MPs

Your petty rivalry with the SNP which led to one of your members announcing that
Coalition talks: SNP offers to join Labour-Lib Dem progressive alliance | Politics | guardian.co.uk

"There are fundamental differences between the Labour party and the Scottish National party and personally I can't envisage circumstances in which we would enter into agreement with the Scottish National party,"

Why should your feud be allowed to take precedence over the needs of your constituents? it's almost the most pathetic sell out of the voters of recent years.

Liam Byrne

However that title must fall to this man. The receiver of the letter  that you wrote  must have been dancing with joy. link

The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, has reignited criticism of Labour's stewardship of the economy with a note for his successor which said "there's no money left".

Byrne's note was discovered by David Laws, the Liberal Democrat MP who was appointed by the coalition government to succeed Byrne as No 2 at the Treasury.

You managed to make it so much easier for the barbarians to justify their savagery.

Anthony Charles Lynton Blair

Well I say it must have fallen to that man, but it's a close run thing, If we weren't pissing our economy and lives into the sand of the middle east to no obvious gain for anyone other than a single diary writer then the last election might5 not have gone so badly.

The Previous Labour Cabinet

Who disappeared on losing the election and left relatively minor characters to lead the fight back until the meandering election process for the new leader ran its course. The major figures should have been there from day 1 kicking back at those attacks, rather than abandoning the airwaves to the oily salesmen of  the party of the rich. So Mr Brown, and Mr Darling, take your share of responsibility.

The UK population

Why are people not out on the streets as in France? A few pennies on the price of petrol caused chaos, but a thousand pounds removed from the average lower income family is met with collective apathy. (perhaps I should have added the Unions as a seperate group, yesterdays announcement  that seemed to say if this happened they would be very upset, but promised no action appeared particularly spineless)

Ive probably got more people to add to the list, but will put it up at least temporarily while I find others to heap Ire upon.

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No Shock Doctrine for Scotland «

"The huge cut in housing support, and the end of lifetime tenancy of council houses, introduces the cold steel of domestic turbulence into many poorer families who were hanging on in the best of times. A commitment that "wages are never exceeded by welfare" will mean a downward pressure on welfare, in an environment where wages are already depressed.

Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of forthcoming unemployed from the public sector have to hope in what Joseph Stiglitz (Alex Salmond's new economic advisor) calls the "confidence fairy" of private-sector revival to appear. According to Stiglitz, economic history shows that austerity measures in a slump rarely, if ever, create the "jobs boom" predicted by advocates." (from Thoughtland)

I don't believe in fairies. Neither do you.

In times like this, gallus humour prevails, Armando Iannucci: "I think the cuts were fair. It's about time bedbound homeless people with learning difficulties were taken down a peg or two." But there's a need to move beyond the constant shift between laughing and desperation.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 12:41:38 PM EST
Thank God you guys kicked out Brown and averted catastrophe....

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 10:54:31 AM EST
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Can you explain a bit about Liam Byrne and the letter?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 03:39:25 PM EST
Quote added.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 03:55:58 PM EST
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The note reveals the pathetic poverty of understanding and imagination of the Labor Party and has the unfortunate effect of tending to legitimize them. Brown, Blair and Byrne seem incapable of imagining that received opinion about economic theory might be deficient, even in the face of massive failure of that theory. They seem to adopt the attitudes of Christan Martyrs going resolutely to their deaths. Perhaps they are confident in the reward for their faith by The Invisible Hand in their future lives.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 06:04:42 PM EST
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My God, You Can Write!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 04:24:07 PM EST
this is the small diary I will get the big one finished soon.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 04:45:45 PM EST
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I knew CEEBS could write, but this is a particularly impressive piece of passionate rhetoric. Very much in order, IMO.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 06:06:13 PM EST
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"I think the cuts were fair. It's about time bedbound homeless people with learning difficulties were taken down a peg or two."

Put this on a bumper sticker for the US Tea Party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 04:27:11 PM EST
The Mail saw the press conference from union leaders differently

SPENDING REVIEW 2010: Unions threaten riots as 500k public sector jobs axed | Mail Online

Unions told the Government to brace itself for French-style street protests last night after the Chancellor confirmed that half a million public sector jobs will be axed.

Militant bosses said the paring back of the state payroll would spark the kind of `resistance' that has led to outbreaks of violence across the Channel.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 05:01:35 PM EST
A F T !

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 06:07:23 PM EST
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Militant bosses said the paring back of the state payroll would spark the kind of `resistance' that has led to outbreaks of violence across the Channel.

This I gotta see. Where's my popcorn?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 08:59:13 AM EST
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ceebs:
Militant bosses
Heh, nice choice of wording from the Daily Hail.

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 09:08:12 AM EST
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I think they must have been infiltrated by socialists

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 11:47:23 AM EST
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ceebs:
the kind of `resistance' that has led to outbreaks of violence across the Channel
When you don't want to soil your mouth by uttering "France".

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 11:48:54 AM EST
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Well it's not like we hold a grudge, but they did shoot our king in the eye.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 12:10:03 PM EST
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The Liberal Democrats

Waves of people voted for fairness, not the lick-spittle cowardice that has been demonstrated in this fawning following of disaster capitalism that the senior party gets you to go along with. Is the watered down changes to the voting system that you have got for this betrayal of your constituents really worth the trip back to the wilderness that is surely coming your way in the very near future?

This form Danny Alexander:
When we came into office, we inherited an economy that was on the brink. With the largest budget deficit in Europe and no plan for tackling it, Britain faced huge economic risks. These could only be dealt with by a clear plan to deal rapidly with the worst financial position this country has faced for generations.

On Wednesday, we set out that plan. And while the scale and pace of the action we need to take is unavoidable, we can choose how we do it. The Spending Review sets out those choices: to spread the burden fairly, to promote economic growth, and to invest in the life chances of our children. These are hard choices that affect millions of people, but they are the right choices to set our country back on the road to prosperity.

...

Yes, it's going to be tough, and everyone will make a contribution, but those with the broadest shoulders will bear the biggest burden. That's why we've reduced taxes for the low paid, and increased them for the richest. It's why we introduced a banking levy - and we've made it our aim to extract the maximum sustainable tax revenues from the banks that got us into this mess.




By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 06:46:37 PM EST
They should not be extracting "sustainable" taxes from the banks. They should confiscate their assets and send them to Siberia - I'm sure Putin has a camp or two he'll let go for cheap money.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 08:52:20 PM EST
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Winding down the banks and clawing back all monies possible from executives might not net too much money, but it would reduce the size of an over-sized financial sector which exacts a great burden on the rest of the country. If, by so doing, much of the overvalued assets were written down to current market value, while it would be painful, that accomplishment is likely necessary for any lasting recovery. But with the current crop of politicians both in the UK and the USA this is both unlikely to be done and were it to be done it would certainly be done in a manner that would impose the maximum pain on all but the architects of the disaster.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 11:44:36 PM EST
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It just seems his comments are very much of "Its all their fault" and "we have no other choice" which isn't even vaguely true. Making the choices that they have reek of a blame and shame culture aimed purely at the poor in society.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 11:12:56 AM EST
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Chris Spyrou (chrisspyrou) on Twitter
The UK Coalition Government is basically The Tea Party Movement in power. #bbcqt #thisweek @markthomasinfo


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 06:53:53 PM EST
Cameron cocks up UK's defences - and betrays Afghan troops * The Register

Comment Prime Minister David Cameron has taken personal charge of sorting out the UK's defences. Not only has he cocked it up more than somewhat, he has also slashed vital helicopters for our troops fighting in Afghanistan - and then lied about it.

If you want detail on that last bit, skip to the last page. Otherwise, we'll take it point by point.

First up, make no mistake, these are Cameron's own personal cuts. The just-concluded review process was sufficiently contentious that Defence secretary Liam Fox could never have handled it himself: in any case the structure of the British government forbids this, as the head of each of the armed forces has direct access straight to the Prime Minister. This in effect cuts their nominal superiors - the Chief of Defence Staff, the Defence ministers, even the Chancellor himself - out of the loop. Not to mention the fact that it was Cameron's decision to ring-fence the much larger NHS budget: a 4 per cent cut at the NHS would not only have matched the savings from yesterday's 8 per cent MoD cuts, but paid to sort out its budget crisis as well.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Oct 21st, 2010 at 09:24:43 PM EST
Spot the metaphor:

Nuclear submarine HMS Astute runs aground off Skye

The Royal Navy's newest and largest attack submarine HMS Astute has run aground off Skye, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has confirmed.

An eye-witness said the sub - described as the stealthiest ever built in the UK - appeared to have grounded.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 07:42:29 AM EST
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To add to the entertainment, the naval tug that has been sent out to rescue the submarine is something that has apparently been cut in the defence revue. If this had happened a few weeks later then the tugs would have probably been needed to be hired under the Lloyds open form contract, potentially costing almost 15% of the value of the cost of the ship link
The average award in relation to salved value in recent years has ranged between 12
and 14% of the salved value.

So is this £160 million that can be marked down as saved?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 01:34:21 PM EST
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An Astute move by the Royal Navy.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 02:05:29 PM EST
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Given the result of the 2010 general election the political choice available to the Liberal Democrats was a Conservative minority government and the coalition which was actually formed.

A rainbow coalition of every non Tory in Parliament was a non starter, given the attitude of various Labour figures (not just anti-Nat Scots Labour MPs but also Brown's refusal to sacrifice his own political career by an immediate resignation and various veteran Labour politicians publicly rubbishing the idea).

A minority Tory government would have been able to prepare the battlefield for an Autumn general election. That election would probably have produced a majority Conservative government, free to make cuts with no regard whatever to the concept of fairness.

The coalition has been influenced to do things like raising the starting point for income tax and the rate of capital gains taxation, which a purely Conservative government would not have done.

Naturally the larger party in the coalition has more influence on decisions than the smaller one. However that is not to say the smaller party can do nothing to modify policy.

by Gary J on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 08:02:45 AM EST
But as the creeping amoebic merger of the ConDem MPs continues, I predict they'll drift to the right of the LibDem faithful.

Eventually - perhaps towards the end of the term - Osborne will be able to force through a further round of punch-the-poor cuts when his Eraserhead Economics push the UK towards a depression.

We'll see how much the token resistance is worth by the end of the term.

It looks more and more as if Clegg is a LINO - Liberal In Name Only. His slightly confused heart belongs to the Tories, and he seems to be seeing this more as a career move rather than a matter of urgent principle.

I'll point out again that this is the second time that social-liberal-democrats have enabled an extremist right-wing government in the UK. If it hadn't been for the original SocDem split in the 80s, Thatcher would have faced a unified opposition and her reign might well have been shorter and far less damaging than it was.

Interestingly Shirley Williams, like Blair, is a Catholic. And like Blair she's had an illustrious and apparently very profitable career on the US talking shop circuit.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 08:20:59 AM EST
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The future has not yet happened. I concede that Clegg is more right wing than most Liberal leaders have been. You would probably have to go back to Lord Rosebery in the 1890s to find someone in a comparable position in his contemporary political spectrum. However I see no reason to apply an American style LINO designation. There are aspects of Liberalism that do not relate to a left-right socio-economic agenda and I would see these as what distinguishes Clegg from the Conservatives. This agenda is not limited to the Alternative Vote.
by Gary J on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 11:08:52 AM EST
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Nick Clegg accuses IFS of 'distorted nonsense' | Politics | The Guardian

Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, has taken the highly unusual step of attacking the respected Institute for Fiscal Studies, describing its methods of measuring the fairness of the coalition's controversial spending review as "distorted and a complete nonsense".

The Liberal Democrat leader also contradicted IFS claims that the spending review would see cuts in spending in classrooms by insisting the coalition had provided a cash increase per pupil for every schoolchild, and had added on top a pupil premium for deprived children worth £2.5bn. He described the premium as one of the biggest engines for long-term fairness.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 08:30:18 AM EST
Bet the Grauniad feels pretty stupid about endorsing Poshboy now, eh?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 10:50:12 AM EST
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From the interviews I have seen, it seems the difference of opinion between the coalition and the think tank comes down to which measures are included in the calculation, over what period. I fear this is a case of what Disraeli called "lies, damn lies and statistics", where everyone is right (on their own case) and wrong (on the other set of assumptions) because they are comparing apple and pears.
by Gary J on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 11:25:37 AM EST
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Well yes, maybe, but before the election we have him quoting the same organisation as being the fount of all knowledge and integrity in judging the previous governments successes and failures in the economic sphere. you can try to have it both ways, but you have to expect to be called on it if you do it in public

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 12:15:37 PM EST
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Public divided over coalition spending cuts, poll reveals | Politics | guardian.co.uk

The public is split over the coalition government's plans for drastic cuts, according to the first poll conducted since Wednesday's comprehensive spending review.

The YouGov survey for the Sun reports 41% saying that the government's moves are good for the economy, 41% saying they are bad, and 18% saying they don't know.

But, asked if the cuts were too harsh or too cautious, 44% said too harsh, only 6% too cautious and 38% just right.

And asked if the spending reduction was being managed fairly or unfairly, 50% said unfairly while only 36% said fairly. In addition, 49% said the government was cutting too fast, against 4% who said it was too slow and 35% said about right.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 11:13:22 AM EST
The opinion poll is actually quite good for the coalition. I am sure that the coalition policy will be much less popular during the next few years.

However, if Labour had won the last election they would probably be in a very similar political position.

The Governor of the Bank of England did say something about whoever was in power now, having to take measures which would keep them from being returned to office for a generation.

by Gary J on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 11:44:07 AM EST
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Which just betrays the incompetence of the honourable governor. Sanity-based macroeconomic policy at the moment calls for massive investments in a variety of projects, and a massive strengthening of social transfers. No government ever became unpopular doing that.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 11:47:27 AM EST
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British Fashion Victims - NYTimes.com
No widespread fad ever passes, however, without leaving some fashion victims in its wake. In this case, the victims are the people of Britain, who have the misfortune to be ruled by a government that took office at the height of the austerity fad and won't admit that it was wrong.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 11:24:24 AM EST
Cuts will hit women twice as hard as men, Commons research shows | Politics | The Guardian

Measures announced in the comprehensive spending review will hit women twice as hard as men, according to research by the House of Commons library.

Yvette Cooper, the shadow foreign secretary and shadow minister for equalities, who commissioned the research, said tonight that the changes represent the biggest reversal in opportunities for women since the end of the first world war

Of the £8.5bn being raised by cutting direct contributions to individuals, £5.7bn - two thirds - is coming from women, while £2.7bn is being raised from men, the Commons library says.

In June's emergency budget £5.8bn was raised from women and £2.2bn from men.

That means that of the total £16bn being brought back into the exchequer by the coalition through direct tax benefit changes, £11bn will come from women.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 02:26:50 PM EST
George Osborne has just gambled your future on an extreme economic theory that has failed whenever and wherever it has been tried.

Sorry, but s'reverence, I think Hari is dead wrong.  This is an extreme economic theory that has succeeded -- not failed -- wherever it has been tried.  

It has succeeded in transferring huge chunks of both industrial and biotic resource from the public/commons into private pockets;  it has succeeded in consolidating a greater and greater proportion of global wealth into the hands of a smaller and smaller number of oligarchs;  it has succeeded in rendering the general populace less secure, less educated, less healthy, shorter-lived, more desperate -- a more "willing" and "flexible" workforce, in other words;  it has succeeded in casting the very notion of government into disrepute;  it has succeeded in blaming poor people for their own suffering;  it has succeeded, in other words, consistently and spectacularly, achieving its architects' (Bosses and finance capitalists, oligarchs) real pragmatic goals (rather than their threadbare lip-synch "principles" and promises).

We are living with the consequences of its success, not of its failure.

Remember games theory:  when a given set of rules predictably and reliably produces a given outcome, then we must assume that the purpose of this game is to produce just this outcome.

The System Works.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 03:56:52 PM EST
Not to worry, De.  Clegg will see to it that the Tories don't succeed.  Or something.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 04:46:03 PM EST
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Hell of a posting, don't you think? Me likie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 09:07:47 AM EST
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Why Clegg Changed His Mind | John Rentoul | Independent Eagle Eye Blogs

n his interview with The Guardian today, Nick Clegg explains why he ditched his pre-election promise to vote against a rise in tuition fees. This time he does not say that it was because he realised how bad the deficit was only after the election:

Clegg says he simply did the right thing after he finally understood why his preferred solution would not have been progressive. The "turning point" came when officials explained that a graduate tax could not apply to European students who would continue to pay upfront fees because they are taxed in different jurisdictions. By law the upfront fees would have to be available to British students, a system that would favour the rich.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 at 06:27:33 PM EST
Why can't we protest against cuts like the French? | Politics | The Guardian

A few years ago, the French president Nicolas Sarkozy told an interviewer that he knew the French better than most. Today they were admiring the good looks of his wife; tomorrow they would cut his throat. It hasn't quite come to that just yet, but the French - students and workers, men and women, citizens all - are out on the streets again. A rise in the pension age? Impossible. The barricades are up, oil supplies running out, trains and planes on a skeleton schedule and the protests are still escalating. More than three million people a week ago. Hundreds of thousands out this week and more expected this weekend. And what a joyous sight: school students marching in defence of old people's rights. Were there a Michelin Great Protest guide, France would still be top with three stars, with Greece a close second with two stars.

What a contrast with the miserable, measly actions being planned by the lily-livered English trade unions. There is growing anger and bitterness here too, but it is being recuperated by a petrified bureaucracy. A ritual protest has been planned, largely to demonstrate that they are doing something. But is this something better than nothing?



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 at 03:41:29 PM EST
Not working in the trade union movement anymore meant that I missed information on two demonstrations in Cardiff this week, only finding out via people's facebook statuses after the event.  I was aware of demos in London but can't afford to travel just for that.

The unions do need to find ways of getting information out to to members and the wider public more effectively.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 03:52:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
London Exodus: Housing Benefit Cuts Will Force Families To Leave Capital Says Report In The Observer | UK News | Sky News
Councils are preparing for a mass exodus of low-income families from the capital because of government benefit cuts, it has been claimed.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 08:33:54 AM EST
Pure Conservative Party doctrine. London is for the winners.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 08:52:13 AM EST
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George Osborne is taking unnecessary risks and putting our recovery at risk says Nobel winner - mirror.co.uk

Britain's new Nobel prize-­winning economist today blasts George Osborne for taking needless risks with his huge cuts and exaggerating the chances of the nation­­ ­going bust.

Professor Christopher Pissarides warns that the Chancellor's £81billion package of cuts threatens to send the jobless total spiralling.

In his first newspaper article since winning the Nobel Prize this month, Prof Pissarides says Mr Osborne is putting Britain's "fragile" recovery in grave danger.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 09:07:03 AM EST
Man, when even a dude who won the not-quite-Nobel for a supply-side theory of unemployment says your budget will damage employment, then you're really screwed.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 01:19:00 PM EST
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Ah but according to political correspondents, this doesn't matter because economists are always disagreeing with each other, so this isn't anything that should bother the scything maniacs.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 01:38:55 PM EST
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BBC News - Welfare cuts 'will not be approved', warns Hughes

Liberal Democrat Simon Hughes has warned the coalition that its planned housing benefit cuts might not be approved by Parliament.

The party's deputy leader told Channel 4 News some of the proposals were "harsh and draconian".

In its Spending Review last week, the government announced a 10% cut to the housing benefit budget.

Shadow work and pensions secretary Douglas Alexander offered to work with Mr Hughes to force a re-think.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 05:51:05 PM EST
Royal 'cuts' could make Charles the richest king in British history - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

The Queen is set to become one of the wealthiest crowned heads in Europe after the future of the British monarchy was secured in a historic deal with the Government that will give the House of Windsor a share of the £210m profits from government estates relinquished by George III.

The Civil List and the parliamentary system for funding the head of state are to be abolished, and from 2013, the Queen will receive her funding directly from the Crown Estate, which owns £6bn of British land and business. The deal means the Queen, and her successors, will not have to dip into her private wealth to help fund her crumbling palaces and staff wages, reducing financial concerns for Prince Charles when he ascends the throne, and potentially leaving him with a vast income.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Oct 24th, 2010 at 10:34:53 PM EST
Tory set of priorities, once again.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 02:42:42 AM EST
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Well purlease, the Royals are much more important than the peasants.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 04:29:54 AM EST
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Very informative for me in the USA.  Mahalo.  We are truly all in this together.  

I just got thru reading a short history of B.C. (British Columbia) in Canada and had the "epiphany" all you have known forever, that Europe, and the British especially developed the North American continent as a business enterprise. A giant meadow in which the English horses and cows could graze.  The HBC/s role in Canada especially struck me was like a government in itself.

Has much changed with the multi-nationals?

alohapolitics.com

by Keone Michaels on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 12:11:47 PM EST
So, Hawaii is in the USA? I thought it was part of Kenya...

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 12:18:49 PM EST
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And full of Mexicans, no doubt.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Oct 25th, 2010 at 06:29:06 PM EST
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Now, now. They were Polynesians and we stole it from those decadent Brits fair and square.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Oct 26th, 2010 at 09:17:59 AM EST
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Seen on a LibDem acquaintance's Facebook:
4 core promises in Lib Dem manifesto - £10,000 personal tax allowance: now on the way, 800,000 low paid people removed from income tax this year; pupil premium targeted a...(tharr be more)t children from the 10% poorest families - delivered; a green and sustainable economy - Green Investment Bank announced by Chris Huhne, coalition programme greenest of any incoming UK administration, all Lib Dem stuff, not Conservative; radical reform of political system - well lets see what happens with AV referendum, local govt freed up, direct electio ns to House of Lords promised. Add to that radical pension reform on LibDem lines, delay (and effective killing off) of Trident.

And there was always going to be fiscal austerity whoever won - Labour planned 20% departmental spending cuts if they had won, coalition now delivering 19% cuts



Of all the ways of organizing banking, the worst is the one we have today — Mervyn King, 25 October 2010
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 5th, 2010 at 08:12:46 AM EST


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