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by afew Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:00:13 AM EST

Away we go...


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It's readily apparent that Chinese High Speed Rail has led PIIGS to the Slaughter and toppled the Dutch Government, but i see little reason to worry that hedge hog speculation wars on the Euro will cause the ECB to soil its pants.  Not nearly as bad being a gold medal winner, except your coach told you to take the wrong lane.

On the serious side, we are in an era where labor injustice provokes a hunger strike.  wow.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:21:38 AM EST
has been updated...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:10:00 PM EST
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I seem to recall a few eXile fans over here, so I thought I'd alert you to Vanity Fair's feature story about the paper.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:26:05 AM EST
That's a very good piece.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:40:20 PM EST
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Someone said it should have been titled, "What happened at the Hungry Duck stays at the Hungry Duck."  For the life of me I can't imagine Peter watching a guy get stabbed to death next to him...  

Must be something in the air, because this was published just hours after a discussion about Russia in the 90's erupted on my blog which lead me to post old articles about the eXile.  And of course now that the closing of it fits their agenda, even people like Lucas are getting in on the hagiography of Ames and Taibbi.  Yack.

BTW, I just finished David Hoffman's "Oligarchs."  I assume you've read it, but in case you haven't I recommend it (and would be interested in your take on it.)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:02:33 PM EST
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I loved it. I couldn't stop laughing (darkly) at all the drugs and the "Hungry Duck."

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:05:41 PM EST
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An interesting piece.  It certainly demonstrates the eXile put out some good journalism, but I'm still left seeing that as having been a product of Taibbi while Ames was off congratulating himself for being a childish douchebag.

The whole "They could never publish it in America" idea is more than a little stupid.  More "controversial" and better stuff is published every day here and in many other countries.

That, and he sure got his fat ass on a plane to the US quickly when Putin's minions -- who, as we know, never came after journalists before Mark Ames -- came after him.  Russia's freedom of the press seemed solid to ol' Mark until he was the one with the government pounding on the door.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:12:23 PM EST
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Daily News dump. This one's short and stupid, in its entirety.

AUSTIN, Tex. - The widow of the Internal Revenue Service employee killed when a Texas man crashed his plane into the agency's office is suing the pilot's widow [!].

The lawsuit against Sheryl Stack seeks to determine if her husband, Joseph Stack, left behind insurance policies or other assets [!], attorney Daniel Ross says.

Ross represents Valerie Hunter, whose husband, Vernon Hunter, 68, was killed last week when, authorities say, Joseph Stack deliberately crashed his single-engine plane into the IRS office.

The pilot left behind a lengthy anti-government Internet posting blaming the IRS [!] for his problems.

The lawsuit, filed Monday, says Sheryl Stack should have warned others about her husband.



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:27:58 AM EST
Possibly related post:

Take the poll: Ford vs. Gillibrand, Who is more impressive?


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:33:20 AM EST
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This comes as quite a surprise.  As many of you know, I come from Indiana, which is at the center of what used to be the United State's auto manufacturing belt.  Today there's a story in the local press about a new wind turbine plant being planned for an old transmission factory in the area.  What's most surprising is the sheer size of the planned project.

A Washington, D.C.-based alternative energy company has signed a letter of intent to use an idled plant in New Castle (Indiana, US-MfM) to produce wind turbines as part of a national energy program....

Nationally, D'Arcinoff has said it could employ more than 100,000 people to manufacture, operate and service its turbines. The company also is considering locating operations in Delaware, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, New York and Ohio....

D'Arcinoff's plan counts on producing 30,000 wind turbines a year, 10 times the number produced by Denmark-based Vestas the world's largest maker of wind turbines.

I don't have enough info to know if my leg is being pulled, but the company is planning the production of 1.5 MW "shrouded" turbine units that look like this:

Also, they are apparently working with Statoil and GE on the mass production of hydrogen electrolysis units.  Which if they pull off, would be a huge boon for the penetration of wind power into electricity markets.

If the 30,000 turbines figure is accurate, and the model is this 1.5 MW shrouded unit, that's  45000 MW of capacity produced annually.  At a 30% generation factor (that is generation is 30% of capacity) that's 118, 260 GWH annually.  Which would is 3.82% of current US annual electric generation, added annually.

I don't believe for a moment that's possible in less than a decade, but it's one hell of a target.

Have any of our windpower folks ever heard of this D'Arcinoff group, or outfits called Ecodawn, Inc. or
Transportable Power, Inc?

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 11:55:56 AM EST
this sounds seriously fishy, to say the least. Especially for a non-standard wind turbine technology...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:11:48 PM EST
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They are asking for a great deal of government money.

From what I get, they are trying to say that the shrouding will allow the limit of ~60 of kinetic power of wind captured to be brken.  So basically, they can violate Bentz's law.  

They aren't giving specs for the 1.5 MW model, but I think that the thinking is that the can get the same amount of power from a much smaller turbine by using this shrouding.  

I really hope that this isn't a scam, because the plant that they picking up used to be union represented.  Because of various laws, it looks like the new company would have to hire back all the former staff before they brought in new people. This same company is involved with another auto plant conversion in upstate New York at what used to be a transmission plant that supplied GM and Chrysler.

If this is a scam, it will kill any effort to develop the turbine supply chain in the old auto sector plants for a long time.  I wish that Crazyhorse could chime in on the technical aspects of this.

The other big worry about this group is that they are privately held, and look like they are connected to the defense sector. Like the type of people who know how to game the system.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:27:25 PM EST
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I would use a bit stronger than hmmm.

If shrouded turbines brought any advantage, they would have been made by now, studied as they've been.

If multi-bladed turbines brought any advantage to the production of electricity, they would have been commercial by now, studied as they've been.

If there's ever a period when there's lots of money floating around for windpower, and there are often such periods, shrouded multi-blade turbines appear like flies on week-old summer fruit.

For sure there will be venture funds who believe they've finally attached themselves to the next Bloom box.  Though if they're willing to invest, they would certainly hire competent experts to evaluate such breakthrough designs.

Or for sure cheaper, they could read the existing literature.

PT Barnum, paging PT Barnum, white courtesy telephone please.

(Multi-bladed wind machines are really good at pumping water, it's called torque...  which is why they're used that way for a millenium or longer.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:41:40 PM EST
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And of course, i don't mean to rain on ManfromMiddletown's parade.  I can only say that the Great Lakes offshore supply chain potential is far more important in revitalizing the Rust Belt industrial capabilities.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:06:04 PM EST
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No rain.

I'm more worried that this is going to give people the idea that building up the manufacturing base for this thing is going to be a cake walk, and then people are disappointed when it isn't.

I totally agree on offshore. The Great Lakes Wind Collaborative just had a press release that a programmatic environmental impact study was being prepped.  This Southwind project for a 1,400 MW farm in Erie south of Windsor is a big deal, and it looks like there is a growing awareness that Erie has enormous potential.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:34:06 PM EST
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You know what might be a good place to look is the Patent Office.  I had a quick scan and didn't find anything, but it's entirely possible that that's simply a function of me being unfamiliar with the site.

If, as J says, they're non-standard technology, you might find that they've filed for things.

I'm inclined to think they're up to something if it's gotten this far in the press, although probably not as big as they say.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:52:40 PM EST
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The more I read about these people, the more I think that these guys are associated with the defense industry.  But, interestingly, they've got a former sec-treasurer of the AFL-CIO on their advisory board.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 07:42:13 PM EST
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I suspect most industries tied to the feds have DoD ties, and there's obviously a lot of inbreeding between the companies that do business on government contracts.  Those that don't have direct ties probably have them through a customer or supplier.

It wouldn't shock me at all, especially in an area like energy, to find DoD-types.

They need skilled manufacturing labor if it's a real business, so that'd be the place to be.  Having an AFL-CIO guy on the advisory board probably lends some indication that they're for real.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 07:56:24 PM EST
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Ah, this is their website?

Mostly corporate fluff.  One of those "Write 'Synergy' 4,000 Times" sites.  But they do mention transit, energy and defense.  AFL-CIO includes the federal employees unions, so the Sec-Treas makes sense.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 08:03:47 PM EST
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I can't speak to their complicated coal-based system, but their wind technology research derives from a program at Clarkson University in Potsdam NY dedicated to multi-bladed SMALL wind turbines.

As backup they include as a source for their electricity a standard 3-bladed utility scale turbine.  Or in parallel.  Or whatever.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 03:40:51 AM EST
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That's them.  There's a new story out today that the principal in the group has a record of hyping big projects and then the projects don't pan out.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 11:45:26 AM EST
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Two weeks ago i met at a conference some of the project developers, and i was surprised at the positive progress there.  Sure there are still hurdles to overcome, but the planning so far beat my estimations.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 03:24:09 AM EST
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I wouldn't count out ducted fan technology too eagerly. That's how all modern jet engines work, and the main shortcoming in a windmill application would seem to be the large amount of stuff that has to be steered to point into the wind. But at a site with a consistent wind direction, that might not be such a shortcoming.

My view is that it's early days for wind technology...

by asdf on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 10:53:07 PM EST
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I wouldn't count out ducted fan technology too eagerly... jet engines... But at a site with a consistent wind direction, that might not be such a shortcoming.

I will count out ducted (shrouded) technology, partly because there are no sites with consistent wind direction.  It is the wind after all.  Partly because the enhancement costs too much, and brings little.  Again, it's been studied to death, and proposed since forever.

Early days of wind technology?  Certainly there are far more innovative steps to be taken, particularly in blade and generator technology.  But i've been analyzing the technology, and discussing it with the global masters, since before i worked on the erection of my first windmill in 1776, er, 1976.  Er, 1977?

PS.  Other than small areas of terrain funneling, i spent 20 years working in the area of one of the strongest directional components anywhere.  In the Altamont Pass in Cali we sited our turbine rows at 240 degrees for a reason, based upon the the Pacific marine layer being funneled through a gap in the coastal range.  and we were still killed by yaw turbulence.

There are very solid reasons why the industry settled on 3-blades, for engineering and economic reasons.  There are fringe applications for other technologies, but they will remain fringe.

But feel free to invest in this latest breakthrough.

In utility scale applications, this is a no go, as are multi-blades.  There are reasons why vertical axis machines were never commercial, despite aggressive research in many lands since 1927.  There are reasons why multi-blades (more than 3) have never been commercial.

In the other direction, I'm sure you're well aware that many research labs and companies have tried to commercialize two-bladed turbines, because two blades is cheaper.  Even today, Nordic Wind, based upon a very successful Swedish program.  But because there's a whole host of other problems, primarily from being 180 degrees opposed, they remain a niche technology.

Even 1-bladed machines were tested, being cheaper still, even including a counterweight.  At those tip speeds, you can imagine the noise.

We may well have not seen some very key innovation yet, but this industry is mature for a reason.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 03:20:49 AM EST
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Here's more from the UK offshore research parade.  the next VAWT.

If the concept has validity, build test rigs onshore now for proof of concept.

when we click through we find Nova and QinetiQ , the defense contractor for solving wind's "radar problem."

Where there is new research money, there are always "solutions."  once in a while, there are even solutions.

Reminds me of the time the Department of Energy wanted to assess offshore wind, hired Westinghouse to design a then unbuilt multi-megawatt turbine, place it upon an oil rig, and come back saying it was too expensive.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 06:27:21 AM EST
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ht madman

UCubed is the brain-child of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM), whose leaders feel that the millions of unemployed workers need a union of their own to join in the struggle for massive jobs programs.

Read more...



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 12:09:05 PM EST
Collecting the union dues from unemployed members might be a bit of a challenge...  :-)
by asdf on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 10:53:50 PM EST
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Finns Among the Happiest in Europe

Finland is the third happiest nation in Europe, according to a new study published by the Social Insurance Institute of Finland (Kela). When it comes to feelings of joy and contentment, Finland beat out its Nordic neighbours Sweden and Norway.

Women tend to be happier than men, according to the study led by Olli Kangas, who heads the research department at Kela. Over 31 percent of Finnish men said they are extremely happy. For Finnish women, the number was 45 percent. A total of 1.4 percent of men and women said they are extremely unhappy.

On a scale of 0 to 10, Finns ranked their happiness at 8.0. Only Denmark (8.3) and Switzerland (8.1) had higher marks than Finland. Sweden and Norway were close behind with a score of 7.9. The Dutch ranked their happiness at 7.7.

Finns are total rankers...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 12:36:49 PM EST
'sfunny, the rep finns have round these parts is a bit on the lugubrious side, moody melancholics.

course it could be they're happy being miserable, something i definitely ran across in england, but is much rarer in italy!

nice to see another myth enlightened...

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 12:44:32 PM EST
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I was surprised to read this too - on the other hand Finland is a fairly egalitarian society, so, deprived of envy, we might feel happier than most.

OTOH Finland's culture is rooted in calvinistic guilt over feeling good, and thus in the amnesiac bottle. Finnish tourists may be afflicted by this too.

When I first came to Finland I couldn't find a pack of cards anywhere, and in the shops a pack was taxed to hell - or for hell. My kind of people like to play games - just as a social activity.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 01:57:46 PM EST
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The Big Picture » Blog Archive » Where Did Employees from Collapsed Banks Go?

Where did all the people go from the collapsed financial institutions?

Via Linked In, we get the semblance of an answer:

One hypothesis is that many of the employees left the financial industry. According to the LinkedIn data set, that just isn't true. There are a handful of people that did transition to other industries and start new careers, but most stayed in the financial space. To be specific, other than two acquiring companies (Bank of America acquired Merrill Lynch and Nomura acquired Lehman Brothers' franchise in the Asia Pacific region), Barclays was by far the biggest beneficiary, scooping up 10% of the laid off talent, followed by Credit Suisse at 1.5% and Citigroup at 1.1 %.

Here's a chart:



"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 01:41:47 PM EST
Note that none of these destinations is prison.
by Magnifico on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 01:50:43 PM EST
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Barclays was by far the biggest beneficiary, scooping up 10% of the laid off talent

If you're job is to be a banker, and your bank had fallen apart losing that much money, then is Talent the right word?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 02:35:40 PM EST
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Human resources people are idiots.

But also, most of the capable people working for these failed institutions were not personally responsible for the failure, even indirectly.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:38:49 PM EST
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If I ever decide to become religiously inclined, it will likely be Vodun, Candomble or similar African derived religions!

Tensions have been running high since the Jan. 12 earthquake killed what Presidnt René Préval fears may have been an estimated 300,000 people and left more than 1 million homeless. Religious tension has also increased: Baptists, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientologists, Mormons and other missionaries have flocked to Haiti in droves since the earthquake to feed the homeless, treat the injured and jockey for souls. Some Vodou practitioners have said they've converted to Christianity for fear they will lose out on aid or a belief that the earthquake was a warning from God.

Absolutely disgusting!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 01:57:41 PM EST
God's hyenas..  :(
by Sassafras on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 02:56:07 PM EST
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applications being accepted to travel The Nation Cruise, 13th annual

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 02:39:01 PM EST
Seems like all the excitement on the hundred plus diaries has drained the OT this week.

ah, well. even I've got things I need to do.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 02:51:52 PM EST
My Dad is keen on flying (used to hold a pilot's licence) and 25 odd years ago had been around the Boneyard in arizona that google have put online. So I thought he'd be interested.

Ha !! Once I showed him streetview with a look over the fence he just said "can't you get any closer ?" and when I said no he siad "Oh, I was expecting to go past all the aircraft in rows" and walked away.

Technology ?!! I spit on your technology :-))

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 03:07:11 PM EST
Shit - I'm gonna end up deported...

Pasadena Star-News: No Cussing movement up for state recognition

California is one step closer to cleaning up its language while at the same time achieving a legislative miracle.

This morning, legislators will vote on a bill to declare next week California Cuss Free Week. The bill is the idea of South Pasadena High School student McKay Hutch, who started a No Cussing Club at his junior high in 2007.

"I want to bring awareness to people about how we speak to each other," he said. "Your words become your actions, your actions become your behavior, your behavior becomes your character and your character becomes your destiny."

In other words, those dirty words lead to dirty deeds and a bleak future, Hutch said.

But beyond washing out California's collective mouth with soap for one week, Hutch has united political rivals for a common cause.

Just another example that no fucking good can come from bi-partisanship.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 03:24:04 PM EST
that'll never fucking wotk will it.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 03:48:17 PM EST
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Izzy:
dirty words lead to dirty deeds and a bleak future, Hutch said.

So what did fucking Starsky say?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:18:15 PM EST
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You'd never call a character "Huggy Bear" anymore. Way too gay.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:53:20 PM EST
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You know what might work?

FABBY

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 09:37:21 AM EST
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Get your British citizenship, <expletive deleted>

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:37:19 PM EST
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The country where you can't call kids "obese" in letters home to their parents?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:43:42 PM EST
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Once she has it she can move freely within the EU, to a more potty-mouthed country.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:44:46 PM EST
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Which ones are the more potty-mouthed countries?

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:36:46 PM EST
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I remember most of the cuss-words from Spanish, and Mig can fill in the blanks.

We'll make it work.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:22:44 PM EST
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I remember vaguely reading somewhere that the Russian language had the largest number of inventive expressions  of that type

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 07:59:03 PM EST
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Finland is fairly potty-mouthed with an all-gender predilection for cursing about fecal matter, female organs and the devil. Male organ cursing comes rather low down the list. Strangely, the use of the word for the Finnish mythological god of thunder - Perkele - is still frowned upon, though common, as it it can be pronounced with a satisfying elongated roll of the central 'r'. The English F-word is also a recent trend, with swearing in English becoming generally acceptable - even in the mainstream media.

Here's my good friend (also host for the Finnish TV version of 'Have I got news for you') and complete anglophile, Peter Nyman, using the C-word.

Naturally it carries no burden outside of Finland.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 05:01:07 AM EST
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But we don't have groups agitating for them to carry guns legally.

dimensionally challenged is better than packing

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:46:24 PM EST
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That's true.  Stabbing them to death with knives and beating them with pint glasses is much better.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 06:30:55 PM EST
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Hutch needs to be corrupted (in the good ways) and taught to think like a human quick before this poor dipshit grows up and winds up with a pension full of mortgage-backed securities.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:49:21 PM EST
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David Mills has beaten the rap through "time-out" on his bribery trial in Milan. The highest court issued the definitive sentence this evening that substantially accepted the prosecutor's argument: Mills is guilty of the crime of false testimony and acceptance of a bribe from Berlusconi but the statute of limitations has run out as of last November.

In short Mills will not have to do four-and-a-half years in jail but must pay a fine of € 250,000 to Italian Council Presidency for having damaged the image of Italy. The current Council President is Silvio Berlusconi, the person who corrupted Mills. One wonders what untold sum Berlusconi would owe Italians for the permanent damage he has brought on Italy by his mere presence in the role of Council President.

Berlusconi will now have to undergo a trial as the corruptor. He had passed a personal law that granted him temporary immunity from prosecution while in office. The law was recently struck down as anti-constitutional, forcing Berlusconi to write a new bill, called "legitimate impediment," to block the trial. However, his legislative engineering also suspended the statute of limitations which is now set in 2012. At this pace he need only churn out self-serving laws until the bribery case will be extinguished due to the death of the defendant.

 Mr. Mills who has since mastered the local art of victimism will assert that the dozens of judges that handled his case are politically motivated.

But he needn't worry. Just as in the Andreotti case there will be headlines tomorrow declaring that Mills was found innocent- fortunately not in the English press.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 03:54:23 PM EST
anyone who wishes to see the high comedy of a puffed up politician being chopped off at the knees on live television should watch this.

From minute 13 through 17:30

Andrew Rawnsley has just released a book that is wonderfully rude about Gordon Brown. On Newsnight John Prescott decided to defend Brown from these charges of shouting in office and having anger issues by getting angry and shouting. But then Mr Rawnsley came back at him demonstrating what an utter hypocrite he was. the look on Prescott's face as the camera pans away is priceless

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:18:12 PM EST
Blocked.  have to wait for the YouTube release.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:10:07 PM EST
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Drat, forgot that.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:28:23 PM EST
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Ooooh, an iPhone app I genuinely want



keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 04:51:56 PM EST
this was filmed in the André Citroën park just across the river from the usual meetup place in Paris...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 05:45:37 PM EST
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Far too much high brow stuff on ET at the moment.

Discussion here in Scotland has turned to the linguistics of flatulence.

I am reliably informed by solveig that in inflating order of decibels/virulence the Norwegian terminology is:

Fiss...soft and sibilent

Fjert...more audible

Promp...the works

In English I have heard

Fluff

Fart

Trump

for similar levels on the  Richter scale of Flatulence.

Any other contributions?

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Feb 25th, 2010 at 08:00:14 PM EST
I remember when I was at university that somebody compiled a dictionary of words you can say whilst being sick (alcolhol induced). The longest of which was "hippopotamus".

There; feel that brow plummet

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Feb 26th, 2010 at 03:48:14 AM EST
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