Thursday Open Thread

by Colman
Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 10:51:22 AM EST

We went to the zoo, zoo, zoo. How about you?


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Dublin Zoo: the animals seem to be either mostly endangered and involved in conservation projects or things that are happy enough in the restricted environment.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 10:53:54 AM EST
I was cutting the roses on my balcony back - lovely sunshine, but now I have to go back to work and teach two yoga classes. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 10:55:33 AM EST
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Spike Milligan Poems -- Poet Seers
In the land of the Bumbley Boo
You can buy Lemon pie at the zoo;
They give away foxes
In little Pink Boxes
And Bottles of Dandylion Stew.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:25:50 PM EST
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Literature at last.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:25:24 PM EST
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"It is the pigeons which alight
on Nelson's hat that make it white"

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:54:01 PM EST
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Apparently we have some very unhappy tarantulas.

Here, in the Britain the Tories claim is in the  grip of a wave of violent crime, in a city of 160,000 people, elements of this story made it to the front page of the local newspaper.

CONCERN is growing for the welfare of five baby tarantulas contained in a parcel stuck in the huge backlog of mail at a Royal Mail sorting office.
The tiny spiders, which grow to become very large and hairy, are a gift which was due to be delivered to the Stead family yesterday.

But following a power cut, the exotic package joined the thousands of items of unprocessed mail at the Royal Mail centre in Papyrus Road, Werrington, Peterborough.

May we have many more news days as slow...

by Sassafras on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:15:57 PM EST
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Power cuts and postal sorting offices... An old unionized order still holds Britain hostage... And babies suffer!

Well, just tarantula babies, you say?

That's biodiversity we're talking about there. Precious species threatened by shadowy men in cloth caps. Industrial action kills the planet.

You obviously haven't been green-dipped yet.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:41:33 PM EST
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Electricity is, of course, a free, competitive market, leading to higher efficiency amd lower bills.  Had it still been state owned, the power shortages would be severe enough to affect puppies as well - possibly even kittens.  But fortunately, whichever company the post office electricity contract is with, it's Probably Owned by the French.  So we can safely blame them, and not the creaking infrastructure that privatisation has mysteriously failed to put right.
by Sassafras on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 06:08:09 PM EST
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Zut!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 01:49:55 AM EST
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Colorado Springs has a climate somewhat like East Africa, and the zoo has a tremendous exhibit of Giraffes...


http://www.cmzoo.org/animalsPlants/animalCams/giraffeCam.asp

by asdf on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:04:44 PM EST
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It's definitely How, not What !!

We're going to the zoo, zoo, zoo;
How about you, you, you?
You can come too, too, too.
We're going to the zoo, zoo, zoo

these things matter, dammit !!!

:-))

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:02:21 AM EST
They tell me it's all happening at the zoo.  I do believe it, I do believe it's true.

No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:27:23 AM EST
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pigeons plot in secrecy

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson
by NearlyNormal on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:43:39 PM EST
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Fixed, fixed.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:34:34 AM EST
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Did you meet a gnu?

(And how did he do?)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:47:31 AM EST
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Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:03:15 PM EST
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Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:07:01 PM EST
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Swedish-speaking Finns are very fond of their drinking songs, especially in the presence of akvavit of any kind. I use the mud song as my contribution. Or then the Bernard Miles song that begins "Where be that blackbird now...". I've had them all joining in enthusiastically on the frequent curse words.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:03:33 PM EST
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Please, spare us the recursive "GNU's Not Unix" jokes :)

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:26:29 PM EST
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Can we do a round of:

{X}INE?

aka, SINE (SINE Is Not Emacs)

& etc. etc. etc.


No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:18:36 PM EST
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No wonder nerds have a reputation for being annoying...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:30:18 PM EST
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the world sleeps easier tonight

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:59:28 PM EST
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They bumped our snow forecast for Friday and Saturday up again.  Now at 16 to 24 inches.  I'm hoping for the higher end of that, which may well happen, as they're projecting 24 inches just a bit north in Arlington.  Looks like we may have another similar storm in the coming week, too.

Going to brave the grocery store tonight for a few days of food, booze and, of course, Super Bowl supplies.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:11:41 PM EST
Snowed in for SuperBowl. I can imagine worse things, unless you get a pwer outage. that'll suck.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:00:16 PM EST
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Assuming they haven't bought out all the beer, chips and cigarettes at the grocery store.

Funny thing is the ones panicking seem to be all Northerners and Pacific-Northwesterners.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:11:21 PM EST
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Maybe they know a thing or two about being snowed in.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:13:33 PM EST
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BTW Helsinki is up to 63 cms so far. Not quite a record, but close. We really should check the roof.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:19:12 PM EST
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We're looking at anywhere from 18 to 26 inches now.  Still seem to be raising the estimates with each new read from the models.

Two feet of snow would be awesome.  Rather not do it again for a while, but one big dawg kinda snowstorm would be nice.

Gonna sit at home and record some music, drink a lot, blog, and watch me some football.  Life is good.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:50:47 PM EST
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In my direct experience if the snow is not in the living room then the roof is still there.

Me duck.


No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:53:42 PM EST
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We seem to be OK for the moment ;-)



You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 07:54:39 AM EST
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Nah, they're just babies.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:43:52 PM EST
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Maybe I should take it back.  Grocery store really wasn't too packed or crazy.  We were in and out in five minutes, which is better than we usually do.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:06:38 PM EST
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We have snow coming tomorrow. But right now it looks like there won't be too much below 700m (I live at 200m and work at around 400m).
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:58:03 PM EST
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This week has been exhausting...
and next week doesn't look any better, either.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:19:44 PM EST
Know how you feel. Every week at work brings one further indignity that makes me feel more desperate to get out.

Hating your work is exhausting.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:14:44 PM EST
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Now you make me feel guilty ;-(

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:50:42 PM EST
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Not exactly my situation, although it is probably even worse in my case.  I actually am doing what I most like (in part).  The thing is that I really dislike the other stuff I am also required to do, ...and since that detestable stuff is sucking up the time away from the rewarding stuff, I feel frustrated.  (That isn't the full story, but it is all I feel comfortable in making public)
;-)

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 09:05:49 PM EST
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passing of Dr. Rex Nettleford.  Don't know if I'll have time to go fishing for any of his books in my dad's library.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:24:25 PM EST
Dangerous animals - watch to the end for extra fail:

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:35:24 PM EST
I was waiting for the Blue Meanies.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:00:59 PM EST
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Do I need to mention that this an actual campaign ad, not satire?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:28:22 PM EST
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Oh no, but that was the feeling I got from it.

apparently the Dems have put up a parody site, but I really can't see the point. they should just have this on their own front page.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:38:58 PM EST
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Attacking the ad isn't even really necessary, although the ad is a fail so epic it just might be a win.

All her opponent should have to do is make an ad saying, "This is the idiot who destroyed Compaq and nearly destroyed HP."

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:13:04 PM EST
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That's for the Republican primary, and I hope that happens. Because if she wins and the Democrats give us somebody from Goldman Sachs, then destroying HP is peanuts compared with destroying the whole US ecomony.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:18:13 PM EST
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That's true.  Kind of horrifying given what Gullyvornyah Dems usually produce.

(not that we've got some kind of monopoly on awesome in Vuhjinyuh)

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:22:54 PM EST
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Here's Rachel Maddow's coverage of the ad

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:45:49 PM EST
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The thing about the catchy acronyms is you have to be able to say them
F-cino ?

ah, she's missed it

F-C-I-N-O
YES , IT'S
F-C-I-N-O

He is F Fundamental
He is C conservative

etc etc

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 05:09:52 PM EST
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...if only for the intro.

What a great band they were.

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:40:16 PM EST
hmm, epic pop. ronnie wood at his peak.

i love how the ending keeps fakeing out too.

did you see the yardbirds in 'blow-up' chris?

yesterday i saw the scorsese flick on the stones so i'm ronnie wooded out!

i saw him with the jeff beck band, doubling the bass line mostly as second guitar, with rod stewart on vocals once, front row at the marquee.

damn that was some rocking evening.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 05:59:46 AM EST
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Toora loora loora loo, they're looking for monkeys up at the zoo
And says I: "If I had a face like you, I'd join the British army"

by Magnifico on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:58:42 PM EST
Article by Dr Hussein Ahmed Paracha: "How Much Dignity is Left?":
The United States has been attacking within Pakistani land with drones for the last four to five years and is also killing innocent people. Our rulers and parliament regard these attacks as attacks on our sovereignty. A minister says that we do protest but the United States does not listen to us. This will mean that if the invader does not listen to you, you should concede and remain silent and should neither retaliate nor defend yourself. There were 44 drone attacks in 2009 alone in which more than 700 innocent people, majority of whom were innocent children, elderly, and women, were killed. According to the statistics provided by various agencies, those who belonged to "Al-Qa`ida" or the Taliban could not be more than 18. Our government kept on expressing fake concern over the killing of hundreds of innocent people and demolition of dozens of localities, and the nation as a whole remained silent. Mian Nawaz Sharif, leader of the opposition, remained so indifferent as though all this was happening not in his own country.


"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:22:50 PM EST
It's difficult. If your entire country's government is in thrall to a military which is entirely dependent upon the hundreds of millions in "aid" filtered from a foreign country, then a lot of people have a vested interest in not noticing what is going on.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:52:53 PM EST
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Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
Last week, I wrote about a revelation buried in a Washington Post article by Dana Priest which described how the Obama administration has adopted the Bush policy of targeting selected American citizens for assassination if they are deemed (by the Executive Branch) to be Terrorists.  As The Washington Times' Eli Lake reports, Adm. Dennis Blair was asked about this program at a Congressional hearing yesterday and he acknowledged its existence:


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:24:04 PM EST
I wonder if these are the last days where the American Constitution can be dimly discerend in the behaviour USA, or might there be some sort of backlash towards the government being subject to the law ?

It's saddening, almost frightening, to see the huge disconnect between what the polls say the american people want and what the US govt, be it rep or Dem, is prepared to give them, or even consider possible to give them.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:57:33 PM EST
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Here's a happy report.

So I'm puttering inside Hobo House. I hear SCREECH! BAM! SKWIIIIIIITCH! I peek through the blinds. There's a Buick stranded on the median --8" clear of the road surface. Unidentified fuid's gushing onto the two-lane. No smoke, yet. Incredibly, a jogger and county police patrol happened to be within visual distance -- two to three minutes after the mishap. Jogger pulls at the door assists a little ol' man from under the bag to the walk, leaves as (here's when I go outside to invite the driver to Hobo House veranda) the patrol rolls up, plants flairs, escorts the driver to gubmint issue cabriolet. Five minutes later, another patrol, a ladder truck, and an EMS. Ten minutes later, I open the door, everyone and everything has VANISHED.

Trains on time or wut.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:31:05 PM EST

(R Crumb original suffered ET transformation, some).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:34:04 PM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:42:48 PM EST
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I can't find comments I did a week ago, how do you find ones over two years old ??

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:02:50 PM EST
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Remember a specific keyword or phrase, and Google it in the site Google. In this case, "life is a fountain".
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:11:18 PM EST
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UPDATE: Life is a cesspool of loooove.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:17:11 PM EST
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Oooh.

I'm glad Aretha's not singing that, I might have to believe it.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:21:29 PM EST
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The jobs are in the trees | Grist

With Congress and the White House considering spending scarce dollars to jump-start employment, they'll need to get the biggest jobs bang for the buck to give Americans confidence that they're spending our money wisely. Probably the biggest jobs generator of all, and one of the least recognized, is investing in forest and land restoration and sustainable management, with conservation, watershed projects, and park investment coming close behind.

Heidi Garrett-Peltier and Robert Pollin at The Political Economy and Research Institute of the University of Massachusetts report the following numbers for jobs created per dollar of investment.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:41:52 PM EST
Google Maps To Add "Google Store Views"
I received a tip from a New York retailer named Oh Nuts, that Google came to their store to take pictures for a new Google Maps product named "Google Store Views." I was told that they took pictures of the inside of the store, every 6 feet, in all directions. They also took pictures of products.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 01:47:16 PM EST
Coming soon, Google Pub Views with up to date real ale lists.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:04:45 PM EST
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You wish :D

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:43:23 PM EST
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Muffins going to stop us in bakery bid - News - Roundup - Articles - East Lothian Courier

DUNBAR Community Bakery (DCB) members will have to rise to the challenge of finding an alternative venue for their vision - after talks with former High Street bread shop stalwarts Smiths crumbled.

DCB co-ordinators have been in discussions with the ex-baking family since July last year after it closed in November 2008 due to retirement.

But after months of negotiations both parties failed to come to an agreement with DCB chiefs, citing an inadequate lease as the main obstacle.

It is understood Smiths had hoped to tie down the would-be bakers to a short-term lease which DCB bosses said would not "represent value for money".

Two potential High Street premises are now being considered by DCB, which has amassed more than £50,000 in funds from 230 community shareholders as well as interest-free loans and grants.

First they could enter into an equity share arrangement with the landlord re gross revenues, and a gradual buy-out of the building.

Second, they could try the DeliDollar approach: ie simply sell Units redeemable in payment for bread etc. like the famous DeliDollars.

Muffin Money?

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:04:55 PM EST
How not to promote your university...? I find this hard to watch...

by Nomad on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:10:43 PM EST
If you want people to watch your YouTube you might not suggest it's painful to watch. Especially when it's 16 minutes long :-))

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:06:43 PM EST
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hmm. I tried but browser's been having playback problems since GOOG "upgrade." Caught a bar or two of the musical WTF (whiffenpoof true fail). Is this a spoof or branded recruiting material? Never seen anything like it... then again, my freshman year was IT paleo, last year of bladderball.

man.

how depressing.

I almost miss Bart.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 09:32:22 PM EST
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welcome to the irony-free zone.

first it creeped me out, the smugness was oozing out the monitor, then i found myself wishing avery human on earth could have that kind of education, and if we evolve out of the fear that makes our governments spend so much on weapons of mass destruction, maybe we could afford to do just that.

it made me want to watch the harvard one too, out of perverse curiosity!

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 06:04:01 AM EST
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has anyone posted this?

http://www.res-alliance.org/public/RESAllianceNavigantJobsStudy.pdf

Jobs Impact of a National Renewable Electricity Standard
Final Report

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 02:27:16 PM EST
Ha, after years of telling us that our energy market was massively efficient, the free-market chickens come home to crap all over everything roost.

guardian - Ofgem: UK cannot trust energy companies to keep the lights on

Regulator says free market approach will leave UK short of energy supplies by 2015

Gas and electricity could be sold to consumers via a state-controlled body under radical reforms, proposed by the regulator Ofgem, which acknowledge that the decade-old free market approach to energy is no longer working.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:11:54 PM EST
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:37:21 PM EST
That explains everything.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:45:38 PM EST
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and what's more, we've infiltrated ET.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:24:44 PM EST
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Here, no one cares.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:31:57 PM EST
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But you must care, or all is for naught.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 04:58:40 PM EST
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From The Village Voice
​Just got a few calls telling us that President Obama, during a meeting with Senate Democrats, referred to the GOP's recent Massachusetts Senate victory and quoted our headline, "Scott Brown Wins Mass. Race, Giving GOP 41-59 Majority in the Senate."

Per TPM, the President said, "There was apparently a headline after the Massachusetts election. The Village Voice announced that Republicans win a 41-59 majority. It's worth thinking about. We still have to lead."

"Good scolding!" says the American Prospect's Ezra Klein. Not everyone is pleased. "The President just quoted the far Left Village Voice," says Sean Hackbarth Online Communications Advisor to the Senate Republican Conference. "But he isn't an ideologue."

Nobody seems to have noticed that he said "There was apparently a headline". I'm sure he has fact-checkers that check his speeches, so this was a much too subtle way of pointing out that he doesn't actually read the paper.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 03:58:14 PM EST
he doesn't actually read the paper.

Only the daily brief, apparently. Comfy inside the bubble.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 10:54:43 PM EST
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You know, some countries would try to put a stop to drunks beating each other senseless with barware by restricting what bartenders are allowed to serve.

England buys shatter-proof glasses.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:03:15 PM EST
it's an acknowledgment that you have to be drunk to cope with living here

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:07:14 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | UK | Pubs warn over plastic pints plan

Plans to replace the traditional pint glass with one made of shatter-proof plastic will not be accepted by drinkers, the pub industry has warned.

The Home Office has commissioned a new design, in an attempt to stop glasses being used as weapons.

Official figures show 5,500 people are attacked with glasses and bottles every year in England and Wales.

The British Beer and Pub Association said it did not want the new plastic glasses to be made compulsory.

Neil Williams from the association said he was concerned that drinkers would notice a drop in quality.

"For the drinker, the pint glass feels better, it has a nice weight and the drink coats the glass nicely. That's why people go out for a drink, to have a nice experience."

Some goon glassing another in front of you is a "nice experience".

(I seem to remember this change was talked about years ago. Apparently nothing came of it.)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 02:07:44 AM EST
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Given how the smart young thing who normally cuase trouble prefer to drink out of the bottle cos it makes them look hardtrendy, the material of the glasses that pubs have but increasingly don't use is irrelevant.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 03:40:49 AM EST
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People who get glassed don't only get glassed with bottles.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 04:34:32 AM EST
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Oh true, but given that there are so many bottles lying around in bars these days, if you want to cause damage you'll pick up the best weapon to hand. And given that a glass is a slicing weapon wheras a bottle is a stabber, you might actually increase the number of serious life-threatening body injuries instead of facial disfigurements.

So, changing the material in the "glass" probably won't reduce the problem that much. Plastic bottles will have to be supplied as well which won't be popular with the suppliers.

Personally I'd create a legal requirement taxation scheme to increase the hop rate in beer. Hops are a soporific, so the more they drink of high hop content beer, the more docile they become.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 05:05:03 AM EST
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Good idea. Plastic bottles are being mooted too, I read.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 05:13:29 AM EST
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That's a brilliant idea!  Send everyone dozing off and they'll all be back home in bed by 11pm.

So we've sorted the lager/beer.

Now what should we do with wine and spirits?

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 at 07:58:52 AM EST
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Instead, how about we play the game: "The 7 things China has taught me"?

Allow me to elaborate: If someone would have told me twenty five years ago that the second most important US trading partner in 2009 would be a communist country responsible for the killing of its dissidents (Tianamen Sq.), I would have laughed you out of the room.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 08:57:00 PM EST
Well, Bush 43 demonstrated point #7.
Barack Obama demonstrated point #2.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:01:31 PM EST
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