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Letter to Hon. P.J. Patterson Regarding Montreal Conference on Haitian Relief:
Congratulations on your appointment as CARICOM's representative on the committee organising the international conference for the reconstruction of Haiti to be held in Montreal beginning Monday. Your experience with Haiti while being Prime Minister will be an invalauable asset in bringing a much-needed perspective that respects the Haitian people's own capabilties, leadership and initiative and the sovereignty of Haiti in the relief and rebuilding efforts. I have been following events closely and wish to share the following observations with you. While we must commend the speed and generosity of the international response to the Haitian disaster, we should also recognise that the international community, as a donor to Haiti over more than two decades, also bears responsibility for ill-conceived and poorly-conducted development, political interference, and unfulfilled promises in Haiti. I support the view that on this occasion the reconstruction of the country should be carried out in a way that is effective and accountable to all Haitians and assigns to Haitians themselves the responsibility for identifying their immediate and long-term needs and for creating and strengthening the structures required. I would argue strongly against an apprach that is 'security-centred'; that militarizes the relief and rehabilitation effort; and that undermines Haitian ownership, intiative, responsibility and sovereignty. Rather, it should be based on the principles of solidarity, respect for their rights and respect for their country's sovereignty. Here are some specific recommendations developed by the Canadian Council for International Co-operation, Oxfam Canada and Oxfam Québec which I fully endorse as being consistent with the above principles. International asistance should: 1) Prioritize the delivery of Humanitarian Assistance by Civilian Agencies; 2) Protect the Rights of Vulnerable Populations; 3) Ensure Haitian Leadership, Ownership and Decision-Making; and,
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4) Focuse on Ending Poverty. 1) Prioritize the delivery of Humanitarian Assistance by Civilian Agencies The challenges posed by the current operating environment in Haiti are huge, but reports indicate that aid efforts have been impeded by lack of access to airports and the slow delivery of supplies into the disaster site. The delivery and distribution of humanitarian assistance by civilian agencies should be considered the highest priority. There needs to be
 A clear delineation of roles between civilian aid workers and military personnel involved in the relief effort. Military forces currently on the ground are providing crucial logistical and operational support, while civilian agencies have the experience and expertise needed to deliver assistance. Assistance currently being provided by military personnel should be handed over to civilian agencies as soon as possible, leaving the military to focus on providing logistical and operational support.
 Highest priorrity assigned to civilian humanitarian supplies for the arrival, off loading and dispatching of cargo at Haiti's airports, ports and land borders.
 Coordination of relief operations should be the responsbility of the UN and the Haitiian authorities, and should be carried out in a way that rebuilds and strengthens the capacity of Haitian instituutions
2) Ensure Haitian leadership, ownership and decision-making Haitians themselves were first responders to the earthquake. Although local organizations have been affected by the earthquake, the considerable capacity and skills of Haitians themselves must be respected and included in relief efforts. Accordingly, foreign countries and International agencies should:
 Work to ensure Haitians themselves, wherever possible, are leading relief and reconstruction efforts.
 Fund Haitian organizations, particularly women's groups, in relief, recovery, and reconstruction.
 Seek opportunities for including the Haitian diaspora in relief and recovery efforts, particularly those with French and Creole language skills.
 Prioritize the rebuilding of Haitian government ministries and departments that are responsible for providing basic services.
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 Support Haitian community- driven efforts to improve the educational, food security and livelihood status of Haitian citizens.
3) Protect the Rights of Vulnerable Civilians Haiti's vulnerable populations will require special protection measures. 36% of Haiti's population is under 15. Persons with disabilities, including those newly disabled by the earthquake, will find it difficult to access food, water and shelter. Women and girls are at an increased risk of sexual and gender based violence. Donors, international agencies and civil society should
 Ensure the principles of impartiality, neutrality, independence, and humanity guide the ongoing relief effort and that humanitarian and development activities are consistent with international humanitarian and human rights law.
 Prioritize the delivery of humanitarian assistance to vulnerable groups such as unaccompanied minors, the disabled, elderly, and women/girls, and ensure that their needs and priorities are addressed in the planning for Haiti's recovery, reconstruction, and longer-term development. To this end:
 Ensure shelter and emergency camps are planned and built with disability access in mind.
 Include persons with disabilities and organizations focused on disability rights in all initiatives and stages of relief, recovery, reconstruction, and longer-term development planning.
 Establish rapid response mechanisms and measures to ensure the rights of all Haitian children are protected with priorities on preventing child trafficking and a moratorium on new international adoptions.
 Encourage all countries contributing to MINUSTAH to train their personnel on preventing, protecting, and responding to sexual and gender-based violence prior to their deployment.
4) Ending Poverty Poverty and fragility in Haiti is multi-faceted and includes significant tensions between a wealthier elite and poorer Creole-speaking parts of the population. Much of Haiti's GDP is allocated to annual debt service payments amounting to some $60-$80 million a year, limiting Haiti's capacity to invest in its own development. Real and sustained recovery and reconstruction will not be possible without addressing Haiti's longer term development, environmental, and governance issues. We should press for
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 The immediate cancellation of all bilateral and multilateral debt owed by Haiti.
 The IMF to immediately convert the US$100 million emergency loan to Haiti into a grant provided without any conditions.
 Ensuring that longer term assistance addresses both the immediate and structural causes of poverty in Haiti while working to provide relief and reconstruction to areas directly affected by the earthquake.
 Continuing to providing development aid to parts of the country not impacted by the earthquake, but still vulnerable to poverty.
 Supporting environmental programs spanning the recovery to development spectrum aimed at agriculture and reforestation.
In conclusion, I strongly support the view that Haiti needs to be rebuilt "from the bottom up". International donors and the Group of Friends of Haiti, must ensure the voices and the perspectives of Haiti's poor are heard and their rights respected. Haitian ownership and leadership, through the government, civil society, the diaspora, and the majority - women and men, girls and boys living in poverty, must be central in all efforts. Yours in solidarity, Norman Girvan (and over 160 individuals and organizations - to see the undersigned, go to PDF)

I wasn't sure whether it would be appropriate to put this as a diary, so I put it here instead.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 11:44:39 AM EST
See also from Dr. Girvan's site: "Solidarity With Haiti", (PDF), along with Flavia Cherry's assessment of the situation:
Flavia Cherry, of CAFRA, sent this message from Haiti on 30 January 2010:
I have been here in Haiti for a few days now and what I find most striking, is not only the resilience of the people, but the extent of volunteerism which is evident in every single camp and in every recovery effort at building and rescue.  

There are thousands of young Haitian men who speak English and they show up at the make-shift hospitals every single morning from 6am till late at night as volunteer translators between the people and the international medical personnel and relief workers.  I have never seen anything like this!  One Canadian volunteer introduced me to three young men who came accross the boarder from the DR as soon as they heard of the earthquake.  They are born of a mother from the DR and Haitian fathers, so they came over to look for their fathers.  They were drawn together by grief when they each learned that their fathers had passed away and those three young men decided to stay in Haiti to assist in the camps.  When the Canadian volunteer introduced me to those three young men, I had to hold back the tears.  Like everyone else, they are living in tents and can barely find something to eat, but they stayed to help their Haitian people.



"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 11:57:58 AM EST
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Peak oil is no longer important. The new buzz words are "peak demand". It's not that they can't raise their production; it's just that we couldn't afford to buy it if they did.


Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 11:48:33 AM EST
I was in the hospital for a couple of weeks and had to resort to reading newspapers and magazines to get my news. I was reading the LeMonde International magazine and lo and behold theres this article in French by you and two others excerpted from the Financial Times. I didn't try reading it since I can barely understand you in English ;)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:07:35 PM EST
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have a speedy return to form, LEP!

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:29:06 PM EST
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Thanks melo ;)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:32:15 PM EST
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"Gute Besserung" as we say here and speedy recovery - hope your all well again soon. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:42:16 PM EST
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Glad to see the use of the past tense regarding your hospitalization! Be well and enjoy being home.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:55:13 PM EST
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Have a good recovery LEP!
Spring is (almost) around the corner; we could have a ET Paris lunch one of these days.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 01:39:38 PM EST
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Take care of yourself, man!  Hope you're feeling perfect in no time.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 04:08:53 PM EST
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Wow, LEP, now stay healthy, all the best.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 04:19:52 PM EST
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A couple of weeks!? That's more than just an oil change.

Hope you come out of that ordeal supercharged!

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 04:48:09 PM EST
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It was for tests; five days in, ten days home and then another five days in. I went in for very high blood pressure which is now under control with medication but the real problem they discovered is that I'm functioning with only half a kidney. That's enough to live if it doesn't deteriorate futher, so that's the current goal, to stabilize that kidney.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 05:54:07 PM EST
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Take care, LEP.  Good to have you back.
by Sassafras on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 05:10:51 PM EST
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I think the wealthy will like this. More expensive oil means less congestion on roads. Combine that with inter-city congestion pricing, it will be like the rich own the public streets because only they can afford to drive upon them.
by Magnifico on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 03:11:44 PM EST
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Assuming they have indoor parking. Otherwise, protests such as the burning of luxury cars in Berlin may spread.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 03:17:08 PM EST
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People Should Travel In Trains As God Intended - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
I can't find the reference, but I believe it was an English matron who declared that airplanes were an invention of the devil, that people should take trains as God intended.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:09:32 PM EST
And the century before that, another English matron declared that trains were an invention of the devil, that people should take horse carriages as God intended.
Plus ca change...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 01:49:23 PM EST
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LOL.

Brad DeLong appears to be snowbound at Dulles. I, on the other hand, am on the Acela from Boston to NY, which appears to be headed for an on-time arrival.

That said, let's see if New Jersey Transit gets me the remaining distance ...

...Update: I made it fine. But they were making announcements on the train to the effect that if you were planning to connect to SEPTA, you were out of luck -- not running. So trains aren't always the answer ...



*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun Feb 7th, 2010 at 03:38:28 AM EST
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From TPM, part of the O'Reilly-Stewart debate that was not aired on Fox
Stewart: So, how is Barack Obama a socialist? As far as I can see, the majority of the billions of dollars he's given, he's given to banks. So if he is a socialist, he's dyslexic! Because when you redistribute the wealth, it's supposed to be going to --

O'Reilly: But he does believe in redistribution of income.

Stewart: Well, he's redistributed it to the banks.

O'Reilly: And that is a socialist tenet -- no, he's redistributing it --

Stewart: He's going up. He's dyslexic! It's supposed to be coming down!.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:13:34 PM EST
What Bill O'Reilly edited out of his interviews with Jon Stewart: Total evisceration! | Crooks and Liars

O'Reilly: In a socialist country, the government pays for all of these entitlements -- the Obama administration is down that path.

Stewart: Who pays for Medicare? Who pays for Medicaid?

O'Reilly: The government pays for it.

Stewart: So now we're socialist.

O'Reilly: But now we're on Medicaid and Medicare with steroids, with the new health care bill. That's steroids!

Stewart: Once again, this is like the old joke. "Would you sleep with me for ten dollars?" "No." "Would you sleep with me for a million?" "OK." So now we know what you are, you're just negotiating price. For you guys to stand up


Jon Stewart is a real nuisance to pompous A-holes like O'Reilly. And a welcome one at that...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 01:56:34 PM EST
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Conservatives don't do logic...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 02:21:14 PM EST
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they don't do Bible Studies either.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 02:30:38 PM EST
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The cons do better with the Old Testament. Smite this, smite that, they really get that stuff.

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 04:53:51 PM EST
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Dug out the truck, but it's already covered again.  Really wishing I'd bought a shovel in advance.  It's about two or three feet around it.  Might still be able to get out in 4WD, but it's definitely getting near the max.

Think I managed to get enough off the roof that it won't collapse and require a battle with the insurance company.

Aw, well.

Lights are starting to flicker, so we're putting the heat up a little higher to give us some wiggle room in case we lose power.  Lost three four-story pine trees (pics later on those).

Our neighbor's Ford F150 (big pickup truck) is completely buried now.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:15:42 PM EST
So power failure for you for tomorrow night then. :D

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:26:19 PM EST
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Gonna be choking somebody at the power company if that happens.

They're not flickering anymore anyway.  Thinking we'll be alright.  Plus, there are streaming services for iPhone now, I think.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:30:25 PM EST
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I really wish I had recommended earlier that you invest in at least a small portable generator, say a 1KW, and some heavy duty extension cords.  We were without power for five and a half days a year ago and on the third day I sat in a line for hours to have the privilege of purchasing a generator that was on a truck arriving from Dallas. It took about two days for our home to completely cool down. We had gas heat, but the furnace would not turn on without the electricity to run the fan. Even relatively low powered things, such as running a couple of lights and a refregerator, heating something in the microwave or grinding coffee beans are significant.

Fortunately, we had wood and a wood stove in the LR that would heat that room significantly and it has a relatively flat lip on the top on which we could heat water, make soup from a can, fry an egg, etc. I learned to crush coffee beans with the flat of the blade of my chef's knife, etc. Hope that the power outages don't become too widespread where you are. The bigger the outage, the longer to restoration.

This winter has been a worse here than last year, with snow on the ground for almost total of a month now, but fortunately we have not had an ice storm or a power outage. I have been thinking about you and Cat the last day or so as this has developed.  Be well.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 01:21:50 PM EST
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It is amazing how resourceful one becomes during such a crisis.  When the last big hurricane in 1988 left us without energy nor water for close to a month, I chopped wood and cooked over a fire for several days (until the restaurants and eateries were up and running).  Unfortunately, chopping fallen trees and branches in order to get out of my driveway cost my a herniated disc.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 02:19:48 PM EST
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Was lifting involved? And have you recovered to a relatively pain free normal state? Bad discs can be a real problem. Can't do much without involving your back.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 03:55:56 PM EST
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yes it involved lifting and dragging the equivalent (in some cases) of trunk sections of oak trees.  I realize I was stupid, but the problem is that you are literally sitting around doing nothing (because everythings stops for a couple of weeks - no work, no school, no nothing).  Sitting there and looking at the piles of debris and strewn trees (and no we didn't have a gas powered electric plant either so there was no TV nor video entertainment to keep the mind busy).  So I started to chop away at the trees (that's right!  chop with an axe since we didn't at that time have a gas powered saw).  Rolled the logs away as best I could do, but there would always be some lifting involved...  Fortunately I have managed the herniated disk thing quite well.  So far no need for the dreaded surgery (and I can still lift heavy stuff - correctly and always with a belt or girdle or whatever you call it), and I climb trees and scale steep slopes to clear brush and weeds.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 04:36:26 PM EST
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During the ice storm I read.  At night I used seven candles, a small, five position candelabra in front and two individual, tall candles, one on each side. I did not read small print and was O.K. with seven candlepower. But an amazing amount of time was taken with keeping the fire burning, going to stores that were open, getting and setting up the generator and keeping it supplied with fuel. You might get blown away in PR, but you are not likely to freeze.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 05:55:22 PM EST
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You might get blown away in PR, but you are not likely to freeze.

ABSOLUTELY!!  In the north, I would be a lost puppy!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 09:20:41 PM EST
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The cat is highly interested (Jen demands I post this as she thinks it's hilarious):



Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:42:48 PM EST
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it is something that fascinates them



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:49:16 PM EST
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...thinking it an homage to Vermeercat.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 01:04:41 PM EST
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But it is hilarious.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 02:18:50 PM EST
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Is that a real cat or one of those porcelain statues?

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 02:21:16 PM EST
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Totally real, incredibly needy, dumber than bricks cat.

She's been pretty hilarious.  We've had about a bajillion robins flying around and landing on trees at random, so she's been at the window doing that thing cats do when they're chirping and having something approaching a mild seizure due to the excitement of prey so close up.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Feb 7th, 2010 at 11:42:36 AM EST
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are you getting that strange, thick silence all around yet?

magic...

our last snowfall just quit melting yesterday, and now the terrain is as waterlogged as i've ever seen it...and it keeps raining some more.

slush, squelch, swoosh, gurgle.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:33:07 PM EST
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The silence has been around since yesterday afternoon, once we'd gotten about three inches or so.  I agree, it's lovely.  Very peaceful.

We're going to be drenched as this melts away.  Figure by the end we should top 20", which would be the second-largest accumulation in DC history.  They're going to be under more than 30" in Baltiless, and the western counties in Maryland are going to be snowed in for days, I suspect.  The center of it moved a bit north at the last minute.

Can't imagine what folks in western VA and West Virginia are dealing with.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:40:51 PM EST
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Seems to be 18-20" fairly reliably.  A few places as low as 156, a few as high as the mid-20s.  Probably not gonna break the record, but a solid second-place finish looks like a given.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 01:13:18 PM EST
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Bush to The Hague > Global > Redress Information & Analysis
A leading US professor of law has filed a complaint with the International Criminal Court prosecutor against former US President George W. Bush and a number of his senior lieutenants alleging crimes against humanity for their policy and practice of "extraordinary rendition" and requesting that the ICC prosecutor obtain international arrest warrants against Mr Bush and his co-accused.

Professor Francis A. Boyle of the University of Illinois College of Law in Champaign, USA, has filed a complaint with the prosecutor for the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague against US citizens George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, George Tenet, Condoleezza Rice and Alberto Gonzales (the "Accused") for their criminal policy and practice of "extraordinary rendition" perpetrated upon about 100 human beings.

"Extraordinary rendition" is a euphemism for the enforced disappearance of persons and their consequent torture. This criminal policy and practice by the Accused constitutes crimes against humanity in violation of the Rome Statute establishing the ICC.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 12:58:05 PM EST
If he thinks extraordinary rendition is bad, he's gonna love extra-judicial assassinations of U.S. citizens.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 01:47:37 PM EST
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If his complaint goes very far he might experience extra judicial events.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 04:08:27 PM EST
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Noran's Blog: I Don't Want My Social Graph
People are saying that Facebook will be locked in. In techno speak, that means that Facebook will become a lynchpin service, a staple, an ineradicable part of the digital medium going forward. It's already most of the way there. It has spawned iterations, imitations, and generations. Facebook will soon surpass Yahoo to become the web's third biggest property behind Google and Microsoft. Google built the greatest information retrieval system in human history; Microsoft, for all its flaws, popularized GUI-based operation systems and built a universally-used productivity suite. What has Facebook given us? The social graph. All hail Facebook! Connector of people, monetizer of relationships.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 02:06:17 PM EST
through my dad's library, I came across two interesting specimens on Peru.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 02:26:33 PM EST
The latest New York Review of Books (subscription only) has a short reminiscence by Tony Judt of his youth in a kibbutz: after becoming an enemy of the right and the centre in Israel, he will now have the left (if there is such a thing any more) against him as well...
In reality, of course, these were provincial and rather conservative communities, their ideological rigidity camouflaging the limited horizon of many of their members. [...] The mere fact of collective self-government, or egalitarian distribution of consumer durables, does not make you either more sophisticated or more tolerant of others.
I don't regard those years as squandered or misspent [...] Before even turning twenty I had become, been, and ceased to be a Zionist, a Marxist, and a communitarian settler: no mean achievement for a south London teenager.

Unlike most of my Cambridge contemporaries, I was thus immune to the enthusiasms and seduction of the New left, much less its radical spin-offs: [...] I was - and remain - suspicious of identity politics in all forms, Jewish above all. Labour Zionism made me, perhaps a trifle prematurely, a universalist social democrat - an unintended consequence which would have horrified my Israeli teachers had they followed my career.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 03:44:08 PM EST
I was driving along the parkway tonight, when, through the fog, I saw something out of the corner of my eye.

It looked like the London Eye.  A huge Ferris wheel with lit pods around the outside.

It could have been a fairground, but the timing of local fairs was laid down by charter hundreds of years ago.  We know when they are, and it isn't now.

With one and a half eyes still on the road, I had to get my passengers to check it out.  They were as flummoxed as I was.

Then the penny dropped.  We were looking at the city's only block of high rise flats, and by pure coincidence, the lit windows formed a near-perfect circle.  By the time I drove back, more lights were on, and it had gone...  :)

by Sassafras on Sat Feb 6th, 2010 at 05:32:23 PM EST
Talk:List of longest bridges in the world - Wikipedia
I expect water and mountain bridges, not elevated highways.

The current top entry is the Bang Na Expressway. The expressway appears to be nothing more than a highway, crossing no significant body of water(and certainly not it's longest span)or height above ground. When I sort by span I recieve Island Eastern Corridor as the first entry. This is also nothing more than a highway! No one wants to see stubby poles in the ground with pavement rolled over them when they want to see amazing bridges. There needs to be either stricter criteria for inclusion or better sorting perimeters.--Anthonzi (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

<gasp>

ROTFLMAO... some people are amazingly arrogant in ignorance. And here come the fitting replies:

Talk:List of longest bridges in the world - Wikipedia

Here is ...longest... -- and it is delicate to rank by "amazement". And if you despise "stubby poles in the ground" please be aware that lots of long bridges are "stubby poles in the water". As an example Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (the above-water sections) comes to my mind. -- Klaus with K (talk) 13:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
If you want to see amazing bridges, look in List of world's tallest bridges, List of longest suspension bridge spans, List of largest cable-stayed bridges. Here are the longest bridges, regardless of how much water there is under them. I am not sure which one of these two that is the most amazing, although water is usually considered looking nice:
--BIL (talk) 22:09, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sun Feb 7th, 2010 at 04:37:04 AM EST


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