Israel's humiliation of Obama a threat to US national security

by shergald
Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:22:43 AM EST

First things first, the last paragraph of Juan Cole's article: Abbas Reported to have Withdrawn from Israeli-Palestinian talks; Obama Mideast Policy Sabotaged by Netanyahu.

Much of this has to do with Netanyahu's insult of Vice President Joe Biden on his visit to Israel, when in succession, Israel announced the planning of 1,600 and then 50,000 new homes in East Jerusalem. For that matter, just before the visit, Ehud Barak had announced the building of 110 new homes in an Iraeli settlement in the West Bank, contrary to the alleged freeze. According to Juan Cole, due to Abbas' withdrawal from negotiations (now a wavering threat), "Obama's Mideast policy lies in tatters and US credibility as a broker of any future settlement was deeply wounded."

Obama is in real danger of seeing his allies lose respect for the United States once they see that Israel can treat him in this humiliating way with impunity. The security implications for the US are enormous. Many European allies feel strongly that Israel is an aggressor state in the region, and when Obama asks them for help in the fight against al-Qaeda, they may feel that Washington's coddling of Israeli colonialism produced much of the radicalism that they are now asked to spend blood and treasure combating. Moreover, many leaders may be emboldened to treat Obama and Biden just as Netanyahu did, if the latter faces no consequences for his impudence.

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The argument that Israel is a security asset for the United States is undermined if the Israelis are provoking enmity toward the United States among 1.5 billion Muslims by their inexorable annexation of Palestinian land and daily oppression of the Palestinian people.



Netanyahu reportedly apologized for the timing of the announcement, but not its substance, and apparently the plan to build remains viable. But who doesn't believe the obvious, that Netanyahu engineered the embarrassment in order to throw another monkey wrench into peace talks. In doing so, he slapped Obama's face, and the face of its greatest benefactor, the United States.

Israeli colonization of Palestinian territory lies at the heart of the Mideast conflict. It isn't a complicated issue in the law, since Israel's actions are clearly illegal and unethical to boot. But might makes right and Israel is the most powerful country in the Middle East, so all the protests on legal and humanitarian grounds have amounted to nothing.

The talks were likely deliberately sabotaged by Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who had his Interior Minister announce the construction of 1600 new households in Occupied East Jerusalem the day before they were scheduled to begin. In fact, Israel is actively planning 50,000 further housing units on occupied Palestinian territory. US Vice President Joe Biden had come to kick off the process with visits to Netanyahu and Abbas, but he has now been sent home empty-handed by Netanyahu's sheer effrontery.

Netanyahu's far rightwing coalition includes many members of the Knesset or Israeli parliament who are bound and determined to colonize every last inch of the Palestinian West Bank and to reduce the Palestinians to landless beggars. Were the prime minister to make too many concessions to the Obama administration, some of them might well pull out of his government, and it could easily fall. Netanyahu is convinced that the Clinton administration undermined him the last time he was prime minister, and he is determined not to allow that to happen again. So acted as though he was complying with US demands for a settlement freeze, but exempted part of Palestinian territory from the freeze. Then shortly before proximity talks were to begin he had his Interior Ministry announce further colonization, knowing that it would complicate or (better) nix the talks. Netanyahu knew that if he was pressed on the announcement, he could get himself off the hook by apologizing for his flat-footed minister's poor timing. Biden did not buy this lame shadow play and neither will anyone else with any common sense.

And on the matter of Israel being security threat to the United States, Biden agreed:

"This is starting to get dangerous for us," Biden castigated his interlocutors. "What you're doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace."

Biden to Israelis: You Are Endangering Our Troops

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"This is starting to get dangerous for us," Biden castigated his interlocutors...

I've no real reason to doubt the truth of this, but I'd feel more comfortable if there was another source. What is being reported as direct speech seems to be a translation into English of an Israeli journalist's (or whose reliability I have no idea) report in Hebrew (in an article I've been unable to find) of Biden's comments in English. While other people are supposed to have heard the remarks, none of them has actually confirmed it.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:43:48 AM EST
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In private, Biden went berserk

Laura Rozen publishes translated (I assume because there is no link) excerpts of a Shimon Shiffer piece in Thursday's Yediot Aharonot.

While standing in front of the cameras, the U.S. vice president made an effort to smile at Binyamin Netanyahu even after having learned that the Interior Ministry had approved plans to build 1,600 housing units in the East Jerusalem neighborhood of Ramat Shlomo. But in closed conversations, Joe Biden took an entirely different tone. ...

People who heard what Biden said were stunned. "This is starting to get dangerous for us," Biden castigated his interlocutors. "What you're doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace."

This is known as framing the discussion, of course it's not about demolition of Palestinian homes in East-Jerusalem. It is about the demolition of talks giving peace a chance.

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Mr. Biden did say he thought it was "inappropriate" for Mr. Netanyahu to have been invited to Capitol Hill

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 12:41:29 PM EST
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Israel Matzav: In private, Biden went berserk
The Taliban is going to fight harder against American troops in AfPak because Israel is building apartments in Ramat Shlomo? Give me a break. Granted the timing of the announcement was about as personally embarrassing for Biden as it could have been, but to go from there to claiming that Israel building apartments in Jerusalem endangers American troops in AfPak and Iraq is beyond the pale.

And why do they not see that an American politician might have that view? it does speak of a worldview that I just don't understand.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 12:55:53 PM EST
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As I say, I have no real doubts that he said this or something like this (in fact, I suspect American politicians have said similar things in private before, and the news is that it's getting reported), but it would be much more useful to have a more reliable source than this single translation of a translation of excerpts, with its misleading use of direct speech.

I had another go at finding it on the Yediot site, with no success. But I did find a short article in which the chairman of the Knesset expressed his concern at the applause that Biden got when he attacked the construction in East Jerusalem in his speech...

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:11:45 PM EST
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Google translation from Hebrew

Speaker of the Knesset, Reuven Rivlin, said he is very concerned about their applause was the American vice president, Joe Biden, after condemning the construction in East Jerusalem during a speech at Tel Aviv University.

"I'm concerned erosion of red lines we set for ourselves, understanding erosion of Israel's strategic needs, we can not compromise them," said Rivlin.

Biden's speech at Tel Aviv University

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:59:25 PM EST
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When someone has the balls to say this publicly, then I'll take it seriously.

I've no idea if Biden actually said it, but it's, of course, true.

It speaks to a special kind of illness within a government that our leaders routinely put the wishes of a bunch of psychos ruling a country of no value to us, economically or militarily, ahead of the safety of our own soldiers.

Really, crazy on a level I can't even put into words.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Mar 14th, 2010 at 12:41:49 AM EST
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Perhaps, Obama will engage George W. Bush as ME broker. He is loved by most parties involved: US radical rightwingers, AIPAC, christian evangelists and of course all Israeli (dual)citizens. After sending Bill Clinton on the North Korean mission and getting both involved in Haiti Relief, Obama has used George Bush to tackle the unrest in North Ireland. Bush talked with Unionists, results seems not to be very successful. What is next, will Obama rely on Cheney and Rumsfeld to solve Iraq and Afghanistan?

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:46:39 AM EST
Honestly, all Israeli (dual) citizens?

That is as stupid a statement as saying that all US citizens love GWB.

Your bias is showing, please try to maintain at least the appearance of objectivity.

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:14:25 PM EST
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it depends on advisers, whether Dubya has any reasonable advisers right now. recalling his north ireland intervention it seems that Ms Rice had left him for good. otherwise she would suggest that it is not the right time to be a peacemaker considering intransigence of the current Israeli administration and unresolved Gaza issue. But if there are any chances for peace talks I doubt that Obama administration would want to give credit to Republicans anyway.

so to be realistic the peace process is dead right now.

it will be interesting to see will obama administration crack the whip on israel or will not. furious words and hollow threats won't be enough for the netanyahu regime to drop mischiefs and take negotiating pose.

by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Sat Mar 13th, 2010 at 12:15:59 PM EST
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"will not" IMO.

No American president has tried to crack to the whip since George Bush Sr., but I don't think he got anywhere with the gesture. I can't remember the context.

by shergald on Sat Mar 13th, 2010 at 01:39:57 PM EST
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Clinton delivers blunt message to Netanyahu on East Jerusalem

Associated Press (via Haaretz) 12 Mar 2010

Israel 'expected to take action' to revive peace talks, U.S. Secretary of State tells prime minister in phone call.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to complain bluntly about Israel's announcement this week of new housing units in east Jerusalem, a senior U.S. official said on Friday.

The official said Clinton spoke with Netanyahu Friday to deliver a very strong message with regard to events over the past week.

Israel is expected to take actions to improve the prospects for relaunching peace talks with the Palestinians, she said.

Will it make a difference?

by shergald on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 02:15:07 PM EST
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Confrontations, anger in Jerusalem over building

(Reuters) - Israeli forces sealed off the West Bank and massed riot squads around Jerusalem's Old City and Arab neighborhoods during Muslim weekly prayers, facing down Palestinian anger over Jewish settlement expansion.

Israel barred Palestinians from crossing from the West Bank into Israel and Jerusalem, and barred men under 50 from al-Aqsa mosque, the flashpoint holy site in the walled Old City.

As hundreds of youths streamed away from noon prayers at a mosque in the district of Ras al-Amud, a Reuters journalist saw men hurl stones at a car carrying Orthodox Jewish children. One rock smashed a side window, but there were no obvious injuries.

Islamists in the blockaded Gaza Strip rallied supporters to protest at Israel's policies in Jerusalem, "We will redeem al-Aqsa mosque with our souls and our blood," the crowd chanted.

Clinton calls PM, slams Jerusalem plan

(Jerusalem Post) - The Israeli announcement enraged the Palestinians and Arab states, jeopardizing the proximity talks Mitchell is to mediate. An Arab League advisory committee has already withdrawn its endorsement of the discussions.

In a bid to salvage those negotiations, Mitchell and the top US diplomat for the Middle East, Jeffrey Feltman, called Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Arab League chief Amr Moussa and the foreign ministers of Egypt, Jordan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates over the past two days.

ME Quartet to meet in Moscow

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:47:01 PM EST
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We've been here so many times before that the play may now be renamed, Netanyahu Unmasked, or even better, Israel Unmasked, but it won't make a bit of difference. The night before Biden's arrival, Netanyahu was making a speech before the Christian Zionists meeting in Jerusalem, stating, again, that "Israel will be the eternal, undivided capital of Israel."

So what's all this hallabaloo about plans for a few thousand homes in East Jerusalem? That's Likud, and it was Labor's view as well in the days of the 75% solution peacemaker who wasn't, Iztak Rabin.

by shergald on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:41:13 PM EST
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From U.S. gave Israel green light for East Jerusalem construction

By Akiva Eldar, Haaretz

Based on Biden's reaction, it seems that he (and, presumably, his boss) has decided that it is better to leave with a few sour grapes than to quarrel with the vineyard guard. In his speech at Tel Aviv University, he said he appreciated Netanyahu's pledge that there would be no recurrence. But what exactly does that mean? That next time he comes, the Planning and Building Committee will be asked to defer discussion of similar plans until the honored guest has left?

With the media storm dying down, Netanyahu can breathe a sigh of relief.

In a sense, the uproar actually helped him: To wipe the spit off his face, Biden had to say it was only rain. Therefore, he lauded Netanyahu's assertion that actual construction in Ramat Shlomo would begin only in another several years.

Thus Israel essentially received an American green light for approving even more building plans in East Jerusalem.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1155895.html

Oh well. Why didn't you say so. No problem!


by shergald on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 02:42:37 PM EST
Clinton Slams Israel's Settlement Plans: 'Deeply Negative Signal'

The above Huffington Post story was just posted under the headline: "43 Minutes of Angry Clinton".

"Secretary Of State 'Vents Frustrations' In Long Call With Israeli Leader, Slams 'Deeply Negative' Signals Toward Peace Process..."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Then on the same page, the New York Times is chimed in with: "Settlement Announcement 'A Slap In The Face To Washington'" or "Diplomacy 102"

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03...

Interesting reading.

by shergald on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 05:10:46 PM EST
Unfortunately, this too shall pass.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Mar 13th, 2010 at 11:34:06 PM EST
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