Jukebox Friday Open Thread

by Nomad
Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 09:35:24 AM EST

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CBO scores have come in showing HCR actually doing better to expand coverage and improve our fiscal picture than they'd previously thought.

Krugman takes on the myths and concludes:

So what's the reality of the proposed reform? Compared with the Platonic ideal of reform, Obamacare comes up short. If the votes were there, I would much prefer to see Medicare for all.

For a real piece of passable legislation, however, it looks very good. It wouldn't transform our health care system; in fact, Americans whose jobs come with health coverage would see little effect. But it would make a huge difference to the less fortunate among us, even as it would do more to control costs than anything we've done before.

This is a reasonable, responsible plan. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I'd imagine we can do even better than that now that we have 50 votes for reconciliation (not 50 for a public option yet, though).

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:08:32 AM EST
But coverage mandates combined with lack of a public option and, hence, little competitive pressure on private insurance to hold down rates still makes it a boondoggle for the insurance companies. And attempts to remediate these problems will be fought on turf that is favorable to the insurance companies: Congress, increasingly, the courts and the executive branch under Obama and, especially, future Republican administrations.

It will come down to the question: do we want to allow the insurance companies to swallow the economy or can we rein them in once they have become even more powerful and rich. They will certainly have natural allies on Wall Street, and we see how well goes the struggle to rein in excessive executive compensation there.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:40:43 AM EST
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TATTOO: The plan, boss! The plan!
ROURKE: Yesssss, Tattoo...

BEFORE

and AFTER

Now, go! Spread the nutello. Nutello for eveeeryone!

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:01:28 PM EST
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In the wake of the crash of Balkenende IV and the results of the local elections, people are astir in The Hague.

First victim was the leader of the Socialist Party, Agnes Kant, who resigned - to the dismay of many, who mourn the loss of an adequate and driven politician. The dominant reason for her departure? Her media-image mostly, the disappointing local election results second. Another victim of mediacracy.

Yesterday, minister Eurlings (CDA), whom many expected becoming a serious candidate for Balkenende's successor as party-leader (or prime-minister), announced his retreat from politics. Reason: wanting to spend more time with his family and girlfriend. Babies are now assumed by many.

Yesterday evening came the news of the passing of the founding father of D66, Hans van Mierlo, also known as the Dutch Kennedy in his early years.

He served as minister of foreign affairs in the first Kok government, and was the prime architect of the first coalition which deliberately eschewed the Christian Democrats (CDA) from power. Democracy in the Netherlands would not have been the same without Van Mierlo, in fact, it can be argued that Van Mierlo was a catalyst of a process that is still on-going: an electorate that has gone increasingly adrift. Van Mierlo was still involved with D66, and spoke and advised on regular basis with Pechtold, the popular D66 leader of the moment.

And today, as Oui has blogged here, comes minister of Finances, Wouter Bos (PvdA), who also steps back, in favour of his family.

So. PvdA and SP will head into national elections on June 9 with a new face. CDA sticks to Balkenende, and the party may face internal turmoil later this year with a succession struggle if the elections results are to be disappointing and Balkenende will resign, because I can't imagine Balkenende returning to Parliament. That is, if Balkenende doesn't miraculously performs a phoenix...

Now back to your ordinary Friday blogging.

by Nomad on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:34:50 AM EST
Countdown to Balkenende V, in coalition with Wilders?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:44:36 AM EST
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A TNS NIPO poll from February indicates that at least 5 parties make a chance of becoming the biggest party, which by custom also delivers the prime-minister. These 5 parties are Wilders' PVV, CDA, Labour, but also D66 and even VVD stand a chance.

In all likelihood it will again be another battle between CDA and PvdA, two parties that don't really give the impression they can stand each other at the moment. Wilders has already begun a strategy against PvdA, knowing well that he stands the best chance of a coalition with power besotted CDA.

I won't be surprised if Balkenende will stick as long as CDA becomes the biggest - even if the results will be another loss of seats for the CDA under Balkenende.

CDA lost 3 seats in the 2006 elections, and now has 41 seats. From the top of my head, CDA is now polling 27 seats as the biggest party, but the trend is down. PVV is polling steady at 24 seats - 2 less than the Pim Fortuyn Party in 2002, which I find a useful reference frame.

by Nomad on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:25:42 AM EST
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En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 12:34:46 PM EST
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Looking back at a series of electoral failures and certain "successes" (ala Clinton, Blair) of the left in various countries in the last 15 years, I have a bulk of suspicion that... you know, the politics is now so corrupt that money buys not only the media and political winners, but political loosers as well. It is now easy to imagine why Al Gore was so good in being an unattractive candidate in 2000, for example. And the ungoing US healthcare reform farce reinforces this kind of impression rather dramatically.

The 2002 Dutch general election fits this pattern as well, I suggest. Then new Paars leaders Ad Melkert (PvDA, Labour) and Hans Dijkstal (VVD, Liberals) were so good in appearing technocratic and out of touch, especially compared with Pim Fortuyn, it was an art form. How far fetched is it to suspect that high politics is a scam?

by das monde on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:01:28 PM EST
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[System.Is.Broken Alert]

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:17:16 PM EST
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das monde:
it was an art form. How far fetched is it to suspect that high politics is a scam?

yup, they're good, but every so often they slip, and that's when i realise how correct you are.

the most classic example of this was when Kerry lost, there was something so pre-arranged about it, the look in his eyes, done deal... i think they're jamming wih NLP or something too, as i still like the guy!

now O-man...

art form is right.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:04:34 PM EST
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Many happy returns, J.

The ME is scheduled for dinner and a movie. How about you?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:39:37 AM EST
Indeed.  Many Happy Returns to Dear Leader!

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:46:03 AM EST
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Has she chosen the movie?

And happy birthday, Jerome!

by Sassafras on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:19:28 AM EST
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Percy Jackson. No contest. She's read every one of the books (so I did, too). I am expecting a critical screening by her. Not only was the ME recently appointed Advice Columnist of the school newsletter, she is somewhat disgruntled by internet reviews.

We will take in a late show. It is after all Friday night.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:34:49 AM EST
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We saw that at half term, though we haven't read the books.  Mine are on an Alice in Wonderland promise at the moment. :)
by Sassafras on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:49:19 AM EST
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Paljon onnea vaan....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:29:24 AM EST
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J is on a roll.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:32:13 AM EST
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with mustard or nutello?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:35:37 AM EST
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For someone with the registered artist name of Roland Butter, among several others, I failed to spot that one coming.

Let's not mention nutello or an almighty culinary conflagration, in which munching hordes march to war bearing banners of lemons or tree sap  will be set loose. It would spoil J's party.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:51:54 AM EST
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WE do not even in jest refer to the sacred sweetener as tree sap.  ;-)

We even have a winter ceremony called Thanks to the Maple.
And a small pouch of Pemmican (deer meat, corn, dried berries and maple, dried in chunks) can last a hunter weeks.  Never tried it with marmite, however.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:05:27 PM EST
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We also have a sacred ceremony on Midsummer (if we are in Sweden) called Thanks to the Maypole. Here in Finland we prefer to burn things  instead of celebrating the great phallus being forced into the earth to fertilize it. Don't ask me why. Oxidation is equally valid as an observance of rebirth- just ask the phoenix.



You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:30:26 PM EST
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Hah!  well said.

we have some fests in summer too, but it would hard to discuss how sex is a sacred celebration.  oh, we do stages of corn and harvest thanks kind of things too, regularly, but the sex and dream fests seem to have the most devoted attendance.

Probably 'cuz the elders get a kick out of watching the young uns run off into the woods.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:51:50 PM EST
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Embarassingly, I didn't understand that phallus-and-balls symbolism of the Maypole until I was like 18. Alienated from the agricultural base?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 02:13:18 PM EST
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Like Harry B. Helmsley, you must be a late developer ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 02:18:50 PM EST
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There be 'friggin in the fields' by morning!

Bob Wilson maintained all religions boiled down to one of two conclusions following acceptance of the Neolithic Agricultural Revolution:

  1.  Sex is good for the crops
  2.  Sex is bad for the crops

& everything else is either a smoke screen or follows.


No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:21:09 PM EST
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Or in the case of Christine Keeler, crops are good for sex.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:42:42 PM EST
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Jeez, that was - like - 57 bimbos ago.

KEEP UP, dude!


No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 06:03:15 PM EST
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Thanks to ceebs's tip below, I can show a probably uncaring world the very spot, on the soft grass, where I first did my bit to help the crops. With my then sweetheart, who also sacrificed to the good of the crops for the first time. On a full-moon night in June, entirely indicated for crop-helping endeavours.

Google Earth is one fucking wicked time machine.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 05:23:59 PM EST
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Did you keep records to see what, if any, affects that had?  

If not I suggest, in the interests of science, re-running the experiment over a long enough time period to gather sufficient data to provide a conclusion.

Since we're dealing with a great many unknowns here we have to admit the potential for the phenomena under consideration being triggered - without evidence one hesitates to draw too rapid a conclusion - along Quantum, Catastrophe, or Emergent Behavior lines.  Thus, it's conceivable the SoCE (Sex on Crop Effect) requires, on may put it, a large amount of whoopie per hectare to manifest.

I suggest a Request for Funding be written and sent to the appropriate French and EU agronomy departments and agencies in order to properly study the matter.
 

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 05:57:47 PM EST
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I suppose that would be  a useful piece of paper to have if you were detained whilst enjoying outdoor activities, if you could arrange funding.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 06:04:11 PM EST
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My suggestion is emphatically NOT "enjoying outdoor activities."  It IS, rather, a Serious Scientific Project©™® that may settle several fundamental questions regarding the foundation of religion(s) and, perhaps, initiate a Second Green Revolution.  

The laboratories, if I may call them that, will of course be screened so that experiments may be conducted under the proper APA safeguards and ethical protocols.  Those outside of the research team will not be allowed within the research and test areas.

(Unless they buy the moderately priced tickets available only at the entrance to the observation deck.)

{And I'd better add:  :-) }

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 06:27:01 PM EST
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But surely you'll need to run randomised blind controls where there will be some tests done without screens, in case its the screens that cause the change in growth.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 06:33:04 PM EST
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The cover of night hides many things.

No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 09:43:06 PM EST
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There may be some venture capitalists ready to provide seed funding.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Mar 13th, 2010 at 01:00:14 AM EST
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Especially given that the seed... well, never mind.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 13th, 2010 at 05:46:30 AM EST
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I haven't seen that field in forty something years, so haven't kept records. But would happily start again and maintain regular activity, (if the fate of the world depended on it, of course).

Funding would be appreciated, but it would depend on the English, not the French...

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 13th, 2010 at 05:45:09 AM EST
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Happy Birthday

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:56:52 AM EST
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I'm in the cab from the airport after a long day (I was in a 6am Ryanair flight from Stansted to Northern Germany this morning, after a late evening event and 3 hours of sleep...)

I hope to be doing some quiet celebrating and then hop off to bed as a middle-aged person should do to stay in good shape :)

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:30:56 PM EST
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And we'll keep the champagne on ice until the next trip to Bremen.  Cheers!

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:45:23 PM EST
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Ryanair on your birthday is really living it up.

Have a happy snooze!

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:32:21 PM EST
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congratulations on a stellar year Jerome!

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:08:13 PM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 05:16:11 PM EST
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Oh hell.

I'm expecting my daughter at any moment, and just flung open the front door saying "Hello, beautiful," to...somebody else.  One of my son's friends, in fact.

This already has the signs of something I'm never going to be allowed to live down...

by Sassafras on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:18:15 AM EST
Mine is "I can fix that in a moment". All present at the calamity continue to remind me of it ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:31:24 AM EST
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My mothers was on getting disconnected from a phone call to a friend picking up the phone when it rang immediately to answer "Braces Brothel, how can we help you"? thinking it was that friend again, to find that it was a woman wanting to send her ten year old daughter for piano lessons

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 05:48:28 PM EST
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Good Hair an alledged plagiary directed by Chris Rock.

Acknowledging the re-tread premises of the "documentary," WaPo root columnist scoffs at the plaintiff, "Who do you think you are? Ken Burns?" According to wiki,

the film opened in limited release on October 9, 2009, becoming the fourteenth highest grossing film for the weekend of October 9-11, 2009 with $1,039,220 in 186 theaters with an $5,587 average.[10] The film expanded to 466 theaters on October 23.[11]

It's now available by cable PPV ($4.99 - purported median value of African American female "wealth").
So if saw a stack of DVDs at a 7/11 discounted two for $4.99, I still wouldn't buy it. Gotsta save my pennies. Baby needs a school field trip to Colonial Williamsburg, VA, cradle of the American way!

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:22:55 AM EST
Chaka. Chaka Khan. Chaka Khan.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:50:33 AM EST
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Google street view has now extended to pretty much the whole of the UK (This has appeared in the last few days)  So if you go to google maps and put in 46 lower street kettering then the car braked in front of you at the traffic lights contains an ETer busy photographing the Google spy car behind him.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 11:56:03 AM EST
Probly get busted for it too.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:33:36 PM EST
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I passed by the mobile google eye of sauron when I was driving around Loch Ness. Now I'm going to spend all afternoon scanning a 20 mile stretch because I can't remember exactly where it was.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:39:48 PM EST
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Ha Ha, I at least had a photo of it so I could remember where I was at the time

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 05:55:56 PM EST
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happy day. oh happy, happy day. happy dance oh...

wot?

One of Miami-Dade's hospital networks has been given six weeks to live.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 12:41:28 PM EST
Is that god's keyboard of smiting?

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 12:58:39 PM EST
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And lo there was a great gnashing of blueteeth...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:31:53 PM EST
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what color? what color?! oh, oh i can't chooose!

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:57:28 PM EST
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I love E6.

I had dinner / booze last night with a Hungarian woman I met back in Laos. She was visiting SF last June, fell in love with the place, and decided to stay here for the full length of her one year tourist visa and might try to come back. I didn't realize she was here - we're friends on facebook but she rarely uses it and messaged me out of the blue a week ago.

It was really nice to transform back into traveling-millman for a evening. It was also nice to get a refresh on the "correctness" of my future plans which get dulled by "regular life."

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 01:09:53 PM EST


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 02:46:41 PM EST
Wow, you and the ME have changed.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:34:31 PM EST
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happy day. oh happy, happy day. happy dance oh happy happy dance...

wot?

lamb chops.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:42:52 PM EST
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Azerbaijan president's son buys £30m worth of luxury Dubai property

Heydar Aliyev, the son of Ilham Aliyev, the oil-rich country's president, allegedly spent almost £30 million (US$44 million) on nine waterfront mansions in the southern Gulf emirate earlier this year, reports said.

The boy, who was 11 at the time, made the purchase in the Palm Jumeirah development over two weeks, the Washington Post reported on Friday.

Heydar's name and his date of birth appeared on Dubai Land Department records, which were obtained by the paper.

The details listed on the property records were the same as those of the son of the former Soviet Republic's president, whose annual salary is about £150,000 ($228,000).

The purchases are about the equivalent to 10,000 years' worth of salary for the average citizen of the country.

Shouldn't he have waited a few months?
by das monde on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 03:14:35 PM EST
For those of you who delight in movie technology, the Encodacam is a digital movie camera that combines live action and simulations to be visible on set in real time. However the real camera is moved in time, space and place, and whatever the lens, the 'camera' in the simulation copies the moves.

The clips from 'I, Robot' show what it does.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:28:40 PM EST
Scusi - it's a movie camera with a digital tap on what's going onto film.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 04:33:04 PM EST
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Third-Grade Students to Scientist: Pluto Is too a Planet! | Discoblog | Discover Magazine

Pluto's declassification as a planet may have drawn some disappointed murmurs from the grown-ups, but the pain is apparently even more real for a bunch of little school kids.

In his book, "The Pluto Files," celebrity astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson showcases his collection of hate mail from third graders who were disappointed at Pluto's reclassification in 2006 to a dwarf planet. The little Pluto fans demanded the immediate reinstatement of their beloved chunk of rock back into the official roster of the solar system's planets.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Mar 12th, 2010 at 06:16:06 PM EST
"Please write back," she implores. "But not in cursive because I can't read in cursive."

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Mar 14th, 2010 at 12:11:18 PM EST
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