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by Colman
Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:17:33 AM EST

Public holiday here tomorrow, so it feels like a Friday afternoon.


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I need a day off to read.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:22:42 AM EST
so take that day.  ;-)

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:31:16 AM EST
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Frank Capra is always a surprise.



Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:29:48 AM EST
Wow those communists are tricky, testifying before HUAC to cover up his fanatical Weatherist views.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:08:43 PM EST
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????

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:46:45 PM EST
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Frank Capra

Capra stopped making Hollywood films and did a science series for television in the 1950's. He testified in secret hearings before HUAC and named names.



If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:06:38 PM EST
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Our local movie rental store has a second-rate epiphany and reorganized the store. I don't know if they used feng-shui, advanced behavioural analysis, hypercomplex Wal-Mart eyeline means buyline strategies or they were just bored.

Anyroad, 'The Longest Day', Darryl F. Zanuck's 1962 D-Day epic, had clearly been lurking in some god-forsaken category in the emporium of dreams because it suddenly loomed before me on the rejigged shelves.

Too many cooks spoil ze broth, but in this movie the multiple directors were an advantage. I found it both very moving and also an absurd casting reel for every actor who made it in the following decade.

skype?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 04:16:22 PM EST
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is that the one that was released in both black and white and colour formats? so you never know which one you're going to get when its on TV?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 04:35:01 PM EST
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AFAIK it was shot in B/W, but I do know that two language versions were shot at each set - one with everyone speaking English, and the first released version where the languages are in context - with subtitles.

Some scenes were dubbed both ways.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 05:28:18 PM EST
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Ah the VHS version was colourised

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:55:29 PM EST
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I haven't found any info on when that was done, though there was certainly a colourized version available for the 1994 50th anniversary of D-Day. My guess is that it dates from 1994, because the expense of the process would have been recouped from anniversary sales.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 10:54:27 AM EST
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I didn't know it was in b/w, it's a regular tv staple here and it's always in colour.

Having seen and read too much about D-Day over the years I can say there's a tremendous amount of artistic license in the narrative and the mess at Omaha is almost completely airbrushed out, although it's probably true that the scale of the carnage there has been grossly underestimated until fairly recently.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:06:36 PM EST
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The film was shot and first released in B/W. The version you have seen is artificially colourised.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:18:07 PM EST
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See the original - Omaha is depicted as the bloodbath that it was. It also holds a much longer screen time than any other battle location.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:22:56 PM EST
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Oh it was far worse than they depicted, simply cos nobody had really looked into it much beyond the official reports until recently. So they didn't know back then.

It turns out to have been an absolute shambles with some forces invading the wrong part of France and others finding it almost impossible to get beyond the shelter of the cliffs. Some parts of the german resistance at the top of the cliff weren't overrun until 3 days later.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:50:31 PM EST
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It was interesting to see The Hurt Locker being Oscar-ised recently.

It's not too much of an exaggeration to say that while critics loved it, many Iraq vets thought it was ridiculous, even insulting.

As usual in narrative engineering, the ideal is far more important than the real.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:04:53 PM EST
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how can you make a 'values-neutral' war flick?

yet that's what i heard it was.

sky offered it free the same night!

surprised they don't offer to pay us to watch it...

fishiest oscar sweep ever.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 03:09:01 AM EST
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I couldn't bring myself to see it. I did pre-order the 'An Education' DVD, on the recommendation of my France-based daughter who raved about it.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 10:56:34 AM EST
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I was on a roll with work until someone phoned me.  About an application for training where on every single form I stated 'text only' next to my mobile number and the covering letter clearly mentions that I am profoundly deaf.  So a colleague has to phone up to tell them to email me instead and then they go and give confidential information over the phone about my application.

Any reason why I shouldn't be pissed off about this?

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:14:11 PM EST
none whatsoever

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:16:32 PM EST
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Meh!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:24:18 PM EST
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http://file.wikileaks.org/files/us-intel-wikileaks.pdf

This document is a classifed (SECRET/NOFORN) 32 page U.S. counterintelligence investigation into WikiLeaks.
"The possibility that current employees or moles within DoD or elsewhere in the U.S. government are providing
sensitive or classified information to Wikileaks.org cannot be ruled out". It concocts a plan to fatally marginalize
the organization. Since WikiLeaks uses "trust as a center of gravity by protecting the anonymity and identity of the
insiders, leakers or whisteblowers", the report recommends "The identification, exposure, termination of employment,
criminal prosecution, legal action against current or former insiders, leakers, or whistlblowers could potentially damage
or destroy this center of gravity and deter others considering similar actions from using the Wikileaks.org Web site".
[As two years have passed since the date of the report, with no WikiLeaks' source exposed, it appears that this plan
was ineffective]. As an odd justificaton for the plan, the report claims that "Several foreign countries including China,
Israel, North Kora, Russia, Vietnam, and Zimbabwe have denounced or blocked access to the Wikileaks.org website".
The report provides further justification by enumerating embarrassing stories broken by WikiLeaks--U.S. equipment
expenditure in Iraq, probable U.S. violations of the Cemical Warfare Convention Treaty in Iraq, the battle over the
Iraqi town of Fallujah and human rights violations at Guantanmo Bay. Note that the report contains a number of
inaccurances, for instance, the claim that WikiLeaks has no editorial control. The report concludes with 13 items of
intelligence to be answered about WikiLeaks.


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 12:34:23 PM EST
Yesterday, our faculty mentor (on behalf of the accreditation agency) spoke to us.  Lets just say that what he said was "music to my ears"!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 01:13:04 PM EST
In other completely unrelated news, I thought I would analyze the contents of my refrigerator today.  As it turned out, I had four fresh mangoes, alongside two mango yogurts, a pitcher of mango nectar and two (open) jars of mango chutney (which I sloshed on a five day old batch of sambhar for lunch.  

This must be of some sort of symbolic significance.

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 01:21:11 PM EST
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as the man goes, there goes his refrigerator.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:05:14 PM EST
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Go, man, go!

<that was a good one, er... hmm...>

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 03:39:58 PM EST
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I had a good laugh with that one!

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:29:26 PM EST
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After submitting over 30 job applications, and getting just one interview I'm beginning to suspect that the claims of Australia's economy doing well are hot air.  I found out yesterday that for a position I was encouraged to apply for by 4 people who worked there, including the ceo, I wasn't even short listed.  Every job I apply for I'm either over qualified or under qualified.  Or the money dried up.  Or the position was filled internally.

Does anyone else have experience applying for jobs lately?

by njh on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 01:47:51 PM EST
Yep, I've not been able to secure a new job in the last 18 months although I haven't done as many applications as you.  I'm being made redundant in 2 weeks.  So, looks like self employment is the way forward for the time being.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 01:55:28 PM EST
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I wouldn't even like to begin the number of applications I've written, But the number of replies I've had has similarly come to the magic number zero.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:08:06 PM EST
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Oh no, how could I forget, I had a single interview I'd forgotten about.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:08:54 PM EST
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Even so, given the dim-wittedness of the kids receiving IT training from us, the fact that you can't get an interview suggests something terrible in the IT world.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:14:50 PM EST
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too expensive, and having had a year off sick that you have to admit to on application forms dosnt help. (That and there not being an enormous amount of jobs out there)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:18:45 PM EST
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If you're better, don't admit the health issue. Just brush over the traces and leave it at that.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:38:09 PM EST
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Or apply for an office job that talks about understanding computers. Once you're in, blow them away with your ability to move their business on using net-savvy.

Try learning Access of Excel and get the certification. Not too many people about who really know those.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:39:49 PM EST
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You weren't off sick for a year.  You took a year's sabbatical to update your knowledge base and skill set.  

You HAVE learned stuff here, right?

;-)

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 03:01:40 PM EST
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Yes, I've been applying mostly in IT too.  Part of the problem appears to be ineptitude in the hiring process - they can't good from bad and rely on poor quality signaling like MSCE type awards rather than real experience such as free software development.
by njh on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:06:08 PM EST
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Hey, don't knock poor quality signalling like MCSE. some of us would never have got a job in IT without experience-poor qualfications

;-))

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:42:55 PM EST
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Ah the good old Must Consult Someone Experienced

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:57:42 PM EST
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Ya gonna be all right rent-wise ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:11:31 PM EST
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For a few months yes.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 05:00:41 AM EST
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Wait, I thought you had just recently been made Director of an NGO...
appointed Director post, a voluntary position, for a disability organisation here in Wales
Um, okay, voluntary means it was unpaid so you still need a "day job" so to speak.

Sorry to hear you're being made redundant again. As you know I spent about 15 months in and out of unemployment and I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy. I hope you find something soon. Self-employment is precarious as ways forward go...

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:15:38 PM EST
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Over half of the interviews I had 2 years ago were for nonexistent positions. People like to interview people to pick their brains or to get inside information on the competitor the candidate comes from.

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:17:14 PM EST
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I sent out probably 150 applications before I finally got a bite five months later from my current employer.  And that was in 2007, before the shit really hit the fan.

My coworker sent her application into the feds two years before they interviewed her.  The jokes almost write themselves with the Office of Personnel Management.  Thankfully, the Obama people seem to at least have a clue that it's shit -- which puts them lightyears ahead of Chimpy and Clenis, but it still needs a massive amount of work.

The wife's been without a full-time job for going on three years.  I think I'm going to have her read this thread so that she knows she's not the only one.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 05:28:57 PM EST
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My son was in this position (looking for a job) recently, and, by working with a "recruiter," finally got a position as a "contractor," which means that he works for a body shop that matches people to jobs. He's trying now to convert it into a regular position, but it seems that this halfway-between-permanent-and-temp setup works pretty well for everybody involved. He can get fired at any time, but would then have a good shot at another position with the same body shop.

Bottom line, find a recruiter.

by asdf on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 08:18:29 PM EST
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The Most Trusted Name in News(TM).

If Thomas Jefferson knew what passed for informed opinion in this country in 2010, he'd roll over in his slave.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:21:46 PM EST
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:28:37 PM EST
Hahahahaha

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 02:41:24 PM EST
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Uh - that's actually, you know, true?

People are weird. I had a short spin around chatroulette over the weekend. Five minutes later I'd seen at least ten random men masturbating, interspersed with random teens of both sexes looking bored, wide eyed and/or depressed.

There are possibilities for performance art - not all of which involve a Ronald Reagan mask and firelighters - but I'm old enough to be finding the mass public masturbation idea really quite strange.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:15:08 PM EST
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Are we headed for a Heinlein future, where everyone has sex with everyone and everything?
by njh on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 05:16:25 PM EST
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That a sovereign government doesn't have to issue bonds in order to spend is hardly a novel insight, but I always assumed that it was a holdover from the gold-standard.
Looks like I was wrong.
Australia:

billy blog » Blog Archive » Why history matters

Prior to 1982, a tap system operated where the government would set the interest rate and then supply bonds to investors up to demand. Sometimes investors did not take up as much as the Government desired. The extra funds came from contra entries in the RBA-Treasury accounts (the government borrowing from itself!).


Wait this is important. Someone is wrong on the Internet.
by generic on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:07:32 PM EST
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:23:34 PM EST


If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:26:46 PM EST
Damn you modern life...whenever I'm ready to leave you forever someone manages to redeem you.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 12:23:46 AM EST
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My nephew has been boasting about being caught on Google Streetview.

So I checked to see if our local one was online yet.

I, too, have been immortalised.  Well, my car has, driving along Lincoln Road.  Obviously, I knew where I'd seen the cameras  ;)

by Sassafras on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:48:13 PM EST
Its getting popular around here

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 06:58:38 PM EST
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You can now get a very fuzzy, distant and pixellated view of my house in StreetView.

But the GoogleMobile still hasn't driven past the front door.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:30:45 PM EST
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Since ceebs' tip-off, I took a stroll down memory lane.

I was able to find a surprising number of "places I remember", though houses and other buildings have changed (extensions etc).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 02:53:40 AM EST
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I did find an ex-employer in Nottingham, that's office is now a car park so not all changes are bad.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 07:33:33 AM EST
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My house is side-on to the road, behind my garage and several trees, so you don't see a lot of it either. A vague impression that a house is there is all...
by Sassafras on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 11:56:49 AM EST
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