Kucinich abandons left fight against insurance bill

by fairleft
Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 03:04:03 PM EST

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/03/17/2010-03-17_dennis_kucinich_staunch_critic_from_the_left_backs_obamas_health_care_bill__relu.html

He has a history of this, going back most should-be-infamously to his screwing of antiwar voice Dean (not that I'm saying Dean was an authentic antiwar voice) by telling his supporters to back pro-Iraq war Edwards in the 2004 Iowa primaries. And in early 2004 K had many supporters in Iowa, so the screw over was important to Dean's very poor result. Dean's loss utterly deflated the pwoggie antiwar left and assured a strongly pro-occupation, 'try to out-Bush Bush' Democrat would be nominated in 2004.

(For the story on the above, see http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/19/elec04.prez.edwards.kucinich/index.html and http://ericblackink.minnpost.com/2008/01/02/iowa-caucuses-101/ )

Why does Kucinich knowingly humiliate himself by making authentically leftist noises on the health insurance bill and then embarrassingly bail on them? Is it a deliberate strategy to deflate the real left and (repeatedly) alienate it from being involved in U.S. politics? Or is it masochism, the thrill that Dem Party bigwigs live for?

Kucinich is (and since 2004 has been) the best the real left can do?

His justifications and more interesting stuff below . . .


"I have taken this fight farther than many in Congress have been willing to take it," Kucinich said, arguing that he owed it to his constituents to push for a single-payer health-care system that ends the power of insurance companies.

But, he said, "In the past week, it's become clear that the vote on the final health bill will be very close."

And he does not want to be the one who scuttles reform, even if he doesn't think it's good enough.

Just a few weeks ago Kucinich, ostensibly an advocate of Medicare for All, was saying this:

. . . There's nothing liberal about giving insurance companies carte blanche to charge anything they want for health care... Since when did that become liberal?" . . .

"Every area of the economy is still about taking wealth from the great mass of people and putting it into the hands of a few. If you don't have an economic democracy, you don't have a political democracy." . . .

Kucinich said he's deeply disillusioned with what health reform has become, suggesting Democrats should "slow down" and "take a step back."

"Health care became too complex and too riddled with concessions to insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies," he said. "It's really time to take a new direction and that direction has to be back to the American people."

http://rawstory.com/2010/01/exclusive-kucinich-shreds-democrats/

Comment after the NY Daily News report:

Inertia

12:51 PM
Mar 17, 2010

Kucinich is against the bill in its present form. Then Obama takes him aboard af1 [Air Force 1]. Then Kucinich gets off of af1. No changes occur to the bill during this time. Now, Kucinich is for the bill.

http://www.nydailynews.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=91239#ixzz0iShYzBDk

Kucinich's message to his supporters just before the 2008 Iowa caucuses:

“I hope Iowans will caucus for me as their first choice this Thursday, because of my singular positions on the war, on health care, and trade. This is an opportunity for people to stand up for themselves. But in those caucus locations where my support doesn’t reach the necessary threshold, I strongly encourage all of my supporters to make Barack Obama their second choice. Sen. Obama and I have one thing in common: Change.”
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I feel your frustration, but honestly I don't think he had much choice. It's the Obama bill or nothing. Doing nothing at this stage is not an option.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 08:30:49 PM EST
Looking at the bill from the left it is, on balance, arguably a net negative for the bottom two-thirds of the population. If Kucinich believes that then he should vote no. His job is to defend his working class constituency as best he can, not to throw a life line to Obama's presidency of corporate corruption and failed economic ideas.

fairleft
by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 11:48:00 PM EST
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I understand about corporate corruption/welfare and that this bill may do little or nothing to prevent it, but I don't see how providing health care to millions that don't currently have it is all bad for the poor and middle class.

I've always supported a public option (actually it should be the only one) but, for example, last year my brother's family lost its last means of support when my sister-in-law was let go after 30 years on the job. The family lost its health insurance and now can't afford private insurance. My brother has a serious heart condition and is four years away from becoming eligible for medicare. How long can he or millions like him wait for the perfect liberal solution. People are dying as more and more lose health care.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 01:01:38 AM EST
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Splendid!

I know that I can count on you to relay to ET the relief provided to your brother and his family by this new law, this year.  

I know that I will relay the relief provided to my family by this new law, this year. I am uninsured, too! I could no longer afford to carry BC/BS. I am ineligible for Medicaid coverage. I live with an incurable, degenerative disease! Our HH gross income is 143% of federal poverty level. That income exceeds the Baucus bill limit of 135% FPL on eligibility for Medicaid enrollment. I hope, MD adopts the new means guidelines, this year, for calculating eligibility on adjusted gross income. But my child is currently covered by SCHIP, subject to $2,100 annual deductible. I look forward to refundable tax credit(s) our government will send us to recover that expense and purchase an Essential Benefits Plan for myself four years from now. I would like a free physical exam.

Perhaps Izzy will relay the relief provided to her family by this new law, this year. And if you are a US citizen and Medicare beneficiary living somewhere in the states or US territories, I know that I would appreciate your reports on how this new law effects your medical insurance benefits.

That would be a comfort.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 01:17:26 PM EST
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Thank you for these comments.  I previously read Izzy's excellent diary on the bill and hope that both you and her will receive relief from this legislation. I realize it is only a beginning and we must not allow this bill to become the end all for health care in the US.  Much of what fairleft writes above is true.  This legislation is far from perfect, but a defeat of this effort will embolden opponents and discourage reform efforts for decades.

In case someone thinks I have a lot to gain by this personally, I would point out that I currently consider myself an insured fat cat, by luck, having more insurance than I can use.  But I am not blind to the suffering that goes on in the name of corporate profits and have seen the greed induced decay in the health care system (top to bottom) over the years.

   

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 02:07:10 PM EST
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If you ever followed NYCeve at the GOS, you know she invented the insurance FAIL pissing contest that many ET readers are familiar with. But that's not the reason I'm inviting myself to report exactly when and what kind of unexpected relief I obtain after passage of this bill, this year. Is it?

I promise to report, because I think interested ET readers might benefit from proof of popular support for Baucus bill passage --which would lock-in budget for specified provisions for the next decade. Because I am quite concerned with exactly what those specified provisions are more so than I am with so-called perfection proceeding from insurance FAIL in 2020.

I can tell you right now, for certain, given our HH income, this bill will not change my child's coverage options this year. It will not change my coverage options this year unless the MD assembly also votes in advance, this year, of federal remedy four years hence on modified income testing AND our HH income does not increase. For Medicaid eligibility currently entails no pre-existing condition exclusion.

I can tell you, it's a good thing that Baucus bill modifies Medicaid determination; doing so immediately formalizes a payment system on which uninsured indigent and working poor HH currently depend to assure emergency medical treatment at hospitals and clinics. That assurance takes uncertainty and arbitrages out of the provider payment system, regardless of patient insurance coverage. That is all.

If I secure employment tomorrow, the only option available to me will be enrolling in my employer's group plan. I will not receive a subsidy to pay a premium equivalent to the community-rated plan I had to drop last year because I could no longer afford $350/mo and also pay for HH heating.

defeat of this effort will embolden opponents and discourage reform efforts for decades

Precisely. "Opponents" to insurance regulation are not the tea baggers on Fox News. They are the representatives in Congress. Many of them will still be seated long after Mr Obama retires to Maui. They will be in the Capitol to ensure legislation enacted in this bill, this year, is not corrected. This is what something-not-nothing advocates fail to grasp today: the provisions which do indeed remediate insurance business practices and those that do not remediate insurance business practices. Those provisions that do not remediate in fact affirm discriminatory insurance practices.

They cannot imagine themselve a decade from today ineligible for Medicaid coverage and paying for maintenance of effort (that increases maybe 5% instead of 18% each year) yet personally liable for accumulating medical debts proscribed by a cost-sharing ratio defined in their "exchange-qualified" policy. Why will this be so?

The "reform" provides no mechanisms --except Medicaid and Medicare administrative "improvements"-- to capitate directly or indirectly customary fees paid by "exchange-qualified" health insurance plans. "Exchange-qualified" assignment is nothing but a government sop for insurers who are still permitted to rate payers by pre-existing conditions.

I appreciate representatives like Kucinich and Kaptur playing hard ball with the senate since Dec. Someone has to comb the nits out of "exchange-qualified" plan designs. I hope your brother does, too.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 06:58:03 PM EST
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First of all, look at the overall bill and what is likely to happen and not just one of its provisions right now, the mandate that we buy health insurance but with subsidies for the poor. Even now the mandate subsidies greatly decrease going forward, because they aren't pro-rated with the inflation of premiums. But also, I expect in the current extreme anti-deficit environment that health care subsidies will be cut back even further. End result will likely be mandated but very crappy health insurance with minimal subsidies. So, the bill becomes in the end a huge tax increase on some of the poorer members of our society.

Generally, the worst thing about the bill is that it does nothing regarding cost controls (which is exactly what one would expect of a bill largely written by the private health care industry). So costs, already outrageous, will continue to rise, while already disfunctional and costly service provision will only get worse (because worse means more profitable).

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 04:12:44 PM EST
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I can't disagree with what you've written.  The ultimate question is: as a result of this bill will a new health care consumer environment be created that increases the likelihood of further legislative progress, or will we allow ourselves to become further indentured to corporate greed and power.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 12:56:39 AM EST
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The bill will make no difference, but it does help Obama out politically, a little, in the short term. That's what all the fuss and push is about.

A mass populist movement for health care that doesn't serve primarily corporate profit will either come into existence or it won't. Health care costs and quality will get steadily worse for most over the next five to ten years, because that is what the profit motive and 'the market' demand. Whether that pushes people 'over the edge' or not, who knows.

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 11:01:18 AM EST
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When serving their corporate masters, surprise surprise they suddenly aren't ineffectual whimps. Rich irony or wtf from Gregg Levine at firedoglake:

Behold, the Power of Dems!
By: Gregg Levine Tuesday March 16, 2010 8:45 am

. . .

The White House has the bill it really always wanted. They have their deals with PhRMA, AHIP, and the Hospitals more-or-less unbroken (despite some of their protest-too-much carping); they have their real goal in sight.

The White House has their individual mandate--a law that will require those without coverage to buy from private health insurers under pain of penalty enforced through the IRS--they have their restrictions on drug re-importation and direct drug price negotiation still intact, and they have kept their word on the handshake deal that they made last spring with the medical industrial complex: no public option.

They have the Big Insurance Bailout and Medical Industries Profit Protection Act of 2010. If BIBMIPPA doesn't sound good to you, it shouldn't. This bill will not provide universal coverage, it will not provide universal access, it will not significantly bend the cost curve, it will not prevent draconian escalations in premiums or out-of-pocket expenses, and, upon signing into law, it will not do anything at all for the large majority of the 48 million uninsured for another four years.

What it will do is mandate an expansion of the customer pool for private insurance. What it will do is funnel taxpayer dollars into the coffers of the lobbying arms AHIP, PhRMA, and the various private hospital associations. What it will do is enrich and entrench the current powers-that-be at the expense of middleclass and poorer working Americans.

What it will do is make future efforts at reform much, much harder.

And for this, the Democrats have practically risen from the grave--and with the force of an army of hungry zombies, they will not stop until they have converted the whole village. And, today, it looks pretty much like they will.

So, behold: Democrats can get things done. When everyone comes together and whips in one direction they can take on any foe--FOX News, John McCain. . . even Dennis Kucinich. . . .

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/35455

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 11:43:18 PM EST
fairleft:
What it will do is make future efforts at reform much, much harder.

i think this is an unnecessarily negative projection.

surely once the thin end of the change-wedge is inserted, people will realise that the old system is not set in recalcitrant stone, and this cog-diss about medicare-is-socialism-except-it-isn't will be put to bed.

i think in some senses it is one step backwards to go two forwards, and kucinich has made his point.

being too principled when it's time for compromise is inappropriate, imo.

it does leave a bitter taste though...

if the bill fails he can always re-adopt his old stance, bully for him.

this bill is so compromised most of its value is symbolic at this point, but as symbol it has great value, routing repugs where it hurts, and continuing the historicity of the obama era.

i may agree with you mostly, fairleft, but izzy's arguments are irrefutable. crumbs are preferable to no loaf...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 11:21:57 AM EST
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I don't think it makes future efforts harder or less hard. It's irrelevant. The bill has become simply what the corporations concerned with medical care profits wanted. Whenever corporate rule is overthrown or whenever it becomes so scared of populist anger that it just has to give up profits for positive action for the average working people, then we'll have actual change to something better health-care-wise than we have right now.

But rule by corporations hasn't been this comfortably in power since the Gilded Age. This health care profits act should tell everyone, "Don't expect any progress at all, expect regress usually, unless you scare the corporate rulers shitless or overthrow them."

And, yes, there are some good things about the bill, but overall, especially viewed at the dawn of the extreme deficit hawk mini-era, it will make things worse for most average and low income people.

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 05:01:30 PM EST
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fairleft:
The bill has become simply what the corporations concerned with medical care profits wanted.

yes, for now, in exchange for giving up more later.

the ideal for them, for sure, would be no change at all.

all these new clients corralled into their nets by legislation are not the ones they like the best, remember, lol. they'll have to do some serious contortions to try and look good and their actions and profit margins will be under greater accountability than now.

already the fact of their paying their CEO's almost 10 million $ a year plus stock options is causing more backlash, i imagine they will continue to be under the media spotlight from now on.

it's a less-worse solution, but it's better than defeat, which would be pretty devastating to morale at this point. i think of it as teasing them out into the sun, where how dark they are will become visible to all. at that point single payer has a much better chance, the insurance companies will have shown all their spots by then.

seeing him stumping for the bill now, i wonder why he waited so long to feel the fire in his belly. i haven't seen him so un-aloof since the presidential campaign.

when he puts on his populist hat, it's a fine thing to watch. pity it isn't glued on his head, but then it might have a target on its back too.

 

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 02:03:30 PM EST
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FWIW, Kucinich does a lot of 'xplaining and Nader rants, raves this morning at DemocracyNow!

"Whip Count"

RECENT UPDATES: Reps. Stephen Lynch, Betty Sutton, Bob Etheridge, Michael Arcuri, Baron Hill, Bart Stupak, Jerry Costello, James Oberstar, Jason Altmire, Bart Gordon, John Garamendi and Dennis Kucinich

House Democrats not on this list are expected to vote yes. However, some members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus who are not mentioned below have threatened to vote no unless the Senate's immigration-related provisions are changed.

All House Republicans are expected to vote no.

If every member votes and all GOP lawmakers vote no, the maximum number of Democratic defections to pass a bill is 37, which would result in a 216-215 tally.

Read more...

The Baucus bill prohibits undocumented aliens from purchasing any federal-qualified health insurance plan, i.e. coverage sold through a "health benefits" exchange.

H.R. 3590 E.A.S., Baucus bill

mmm I saw that prohibition (section titles) a few days ago. It seems to have disappeared... LOL.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 01:50:53 PM EST
I think the argument boils down to "not having the perfect be the enemy of the good" and "politics the art of the possible."

Frankly, I'm encouraged that those Catholic nuns and hospitals came out in support of the bill, given the immense pressure from their hierarchy. As on-the-ground health workers who are also tied to a horribly conservative organization, I think that they are in a unique position to decide whether the bill is overall a step in the right direction.

by asdf on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 11:19:36 PM EST


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