US General: Dutch Gays in Military to Blame for Massacre [Updated]

by Oui
Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 04:39:16 AM EST

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Retired US General: Gay Dutch Troops Contributed to Srebrenica Massacre

WASHINGTON D.C. (VOA)- A former top U.S. and NATO commander says the Netherlands' inclusion of gays in their military rendered Dutch peacekeeping troops unable to prevent the slaughter of thousands of Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica in 1995.

Retired U.S. Marine General John Sheehan led the U.S. Atlantic Command and served as the top NATO commander in the mid-1990s,  the height of ethnic cleansing in former-Yugoslavia.


General (Ret.) John J. "Jack" Sheehan

He told the Senate Armed Services Committee that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the U.S. military would breed friction and undermine unit cohesion in the armed forces.

Sheehan backed his contention that gay soldiers undermined Dutch combat readiness by pointing to the massacre of Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica in 1995.  Four-hundred Dutch peacekeepers protecting the area were overwhelmed by Serbian forces, which killed an estimated 8,000 Muslim men and boys.

Linking the massacre to the Netherlands allowing gays in the military prompted this exchange with Senator Levin, who seemed perplexed by Sheehan's assertion.

SHEEHAN: "That [Srebrenica] was the largest massacre in Europe since World War II."
LEVIN: "And did the Dutch leaders tell you it was because there were gay soldiers there?"
SHEEHAN: "It was a combination ..."
LEVIN: "Did they tell you [that gay soldiers were to blame], that is my question."
SHEEHAN: "Yes."
LEVIN: "They did?"
SHEEHAN: "They included that as part of the problem."

Asked for comment, Dutch military officials expressed astonishment.  The spokesman for the Netherlands Ministry of Defense, Roger van de Wetering, told VOA Sheehan's assertions are "total nonsense" and that he "cannot believe that a man of that rank is stating such a thing."  He added that he had never heard Sheehan's allegation before from any source in the Netherlands or anywhere else.

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Gay army is a non-issue in Holland

(RNW) – Retired US Marine General John Sheehan got one thing right in his testimony to the US Congress: gays serve in the Dutch military. But it takes a foreigner to point that out. Here in The Netherlands, gays have served in the military for decades.

What?

The reaction here in The Netherlands has been a universal, 'huh?' From the current Foreign Minister to the Defence Minister at the time of the Srebrenica massacre; from leaders of unions representing soldiers to the former army commander; all have said that General Sheehan's remarks do not have the slightest basis in reality.

The Dutch caretaker Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen said via Twitter that he was amazed at the ex general's comments - saying they reflected more about the discussion around homosexuals in the US army than anything else.

Minister of Defense Eimert van Middelkoop twittered: "scandalous and unbefitting a soldier".

In a statement, Dutch Ambassador Renée Jones-Bos said, "I take pride in the fact that lesbians and gays have served openly and with distinction in the Dutch military forces for decades, such as in Afghanistan at the moment."

"The military mission of Dutch U.N. soldiers at Srebrenica has been exhaustively studied and evaluated, nationally and internationally," Jones-Bos said. "There is nothing in these reports that suggests any relationship between gays serving in the military and the mass murder of Bosnian Muslims."

Why I Declined To Serve
By John J. Sheehan

(Washington Post) Apr. 16. 2007 - Service to the nation is both a responsibility and an honor for every citizen presented with the opportunity. This is especially true in times of war and crisis. Today, because of the war in Iraq, this nation is in a crisis of confidence and is confused about its foreign policy direction, especially in the Middle East.

... It would have been a great honor to serve this nation again. But after thoughtful discussions with people both in and outside of this administration, I concluded that the current Washington decision-making process lacks a linkage to a broader view of the region and how the parts fit together strategically. We got it right during the early days of Afghanistan -- and then lost focus. We have never gotten it right in Iraq.

3 Generals Spurn the Position of War 'Czar'

"The very fundamental issue is, they don't know where the hell they're going," said retired Marine Gen. John J. "Jack" Sheehan, a former top NATO commander who was among those rejecting the job. Sheehan said he believes that Vice President Cheney and his hawkish allies remain more powerful within the administration than pragmatists looking for a way out of Iraq.

[Update 2010-03-19 10:25 AM PDT by Oui]
An idiot who doesn't know his facts

General John J. Sheehan's statement before the Senate Commission of Carl Levin: "Serbs came in and handcuffed the Dutch forces to telephone poles"

May 1995 – 370 UN peacekeepers held hostage by Serbs at possible miliary targets to avoid NATO air strikes

– The Dutch mission was a peacekeeping force in Bosnia, the UN and NATO would cover with military air support. The Serbs attacked the Bosnian enclave of Screbrenica in July, 1995. They calculated the UN and NATO would not provide cover with air power, due to large hostage taking earlier to offset NATO air strikes.

Dutch blast retired U.S. general John Sheehan for saying gay soldiers linked to Srebrenica massacre

The facts about the handcuffed UN peacekeepers in TUZLA, Bosnia

CLIP 33 of 63 – TX 26.5.1995 UN peacekeepers chained up as hostages to prevent NATO air strikes against Bosnian Serb targets BOSNIA: Tuzla: UN Peacekeeping soldier chained to a post along road (being used as human shield). Other soldiers held hostage and handcuffed to ammunition dump doors. UN soldiers used at human shields, chained together on a strategic bridge. One makes an anti-NATO statement (under duress, their words not their own). Smoke rising in distance and explosions heard as result of NATO air strikes. NATO commander at press conference explains air strikes were a success, points at map. Aftermath of Head Up Display pictures (pilot's view) of a ground strike. Aftermath of Serb shelling on safe zones in city people milling around in the dark helping the injured and removing bodies. Day shot of aftermath of Sarajevo shelled, soldiers helping wounded out of the city. UN troops into UN vehicle.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

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Why "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Should Be Repealed

In 1993 RAND Corp. concluded that openly gay people in the U.S. military do not negatively impact unit cohesion, morale, good order, or military readiness.

This report presents the RAND study that resulted from a request to assist the Secretary of Defense in drafting an Executive Order to end discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in the U.S. Armed Forces. Taking an interdisciplinary approach, a team of RAND researchers visited seven foreign countries and the police and fire departments in six American cities, seeking insights and lessons from analogous experiences there.

Based on the research findings, the study group found that the most promising policy option for achieving the President's objectives focuses on conduct and considers sexual orientation, by itself, as not germane in determining who may serve in the Armed Forces.

Several other military-commissioned and GAO studies have concluded that open service does not undermine military readiness, troop morale or national security.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 07:50:55 AM EST
Do you honestly believe, for one second, that Mr Sheehan could name anyone but Goldmember as the source for his military intelligence?

You dignify the man's remarks by ascribing idiocy, incompetence or whathave to them. More accurate is to admit simply that Mr Sheehan is a lying sack of insanity and mourn the fact his jacket lacks straps and buckles.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 11:53:14 AM EST
The words "shitbat insane" come to mind.

Because that's such an easy dismissal, what in earth's name could have caused Sheehan to make such ludicrous commentary during such a well watched committee? Is it a result of Fox News constant yapping of the Dutch Sodom and Gomorrah? Old grievances with the Dutch military that grew tainted over the past 15 years in the perspective of his own anti-gay stance?

Good to see that these insulting fantasies of Sheehan are commented on quickly, including by Balkenende.

Excellent diary.

by Nomad on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 12:00:22 PM EST
The guy's an idiot. But that doesn't mean that one should be in favor of gays being in the US military.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell -- Don't Go

To begin with, there is no "right" to engage in mass murder, and, under the current regime as well as the previous one, that is precisely what the US military is engaged in: unabashedly naked aggression. Today we are fighting three unjust (not to mention unwinnable) wars simultaneously: Iraq, Afghanistan, and the unacknowledged war on Pakistani soil. Hopeful neocons are planning a fourth, and the President's rhetoric and actions give them ample reason for optimism. Anyone who joins the American armed forces at this point necessarily becomes an accessory to murder on a mass scale. [...]

In the present context [...] enlisting means being an accomplice to the commission of a crime. To claim the "right" of gays, or anyone else, to join the US military is to claim the "right" to be a war criminal. [...]

In the age of Obama, such appeals to political correctness are necessarily a staple of war propaganda. Imagine the possibilities: On one side we have our multi-sexual military that includes women and gays, and on the other we have the Forces of Reaction lining up behind the anti-woman anti-gay Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. It's a perfect modern-day morality tale, one made to order for liberals still squeamish about Obama's determination to prosecute the Afghan war and go into Pakistan.



A bomb, H bomb, Minuteman / The names get more attractive / The decisions are made by NATO / The press call it British opinion -- The Three Johns
by Alexander on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 04:36:31 PM EST
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Dutch fuming at retired US general's gays comment

THE HAGUE (AP) - Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende called Sheehan's comments irresponsible and said at his weekly news conference that "these remarks should never have been made."

"Toward Dutch troops -- homosexual or heterosexual -- it is way off the mark to talk like that about people and the work they do under very difficult circumstances."

Defense Minister Eimert van Middelkoop called Sheehan's claim "damaging" and not worthy of a soldier. "I don't want to waste any more words on it," he said.

Sheehan mentions a non-existing Dutch general 'Hankman Berman'

Gen. Henk van den Breemen, Dutch chief of staff at the time of the Srebrenica genocide, called Sheehan's comments "total nonsense" and denied ever having suggested gays in the army might have played a role in the Srebrenica massacre.

The Netherlands has a long history of accepting homosexuality, and gays have long been welcome in the country's armed forces -- which also allow labor unions.

The leader of one such union, Jan Kleian, was incensed by Sheehan's comments. "The man is crazy, it sounds hard, but I can't put it any other way."

Recently, Van den Breemen, together with four former colleagues, wrote a pamphlet entitled: "Towards a Grand Strategy for an Uncertain Word; Renewing Transatlantic Partnership". The "Gang of five", as they were called when the pamphlet was presented in Washington DC (January 2008), consisted of General (ret.) John Shaliskasvili (USA), General (ret.) Dr. Klaus Naumann (Germany), Admiral (ret.) Jacques Lanxade and Field Marshal the Lord Inge (UK).

VIDEO - Gen. James Sheehan before Armed Services Committee

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

by Oui on Sat Mar 20th, 2010 at 08:21:02 AM EST


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