Religion vs sexuality rumbles on

by In Wales
Mon Mar 22nd, 2010 at 06:30:28 AM EST

Yet again, another amendment to the Equality Bill is being brought forward in the House of Lords, aiming to secure exemptions for religious adoption charities enabling them to discriminate against gay couples.

Previous amendments have been repeatedly rebuffed but this follows the recent court ruling which I diaried last week, where a Court allowed a Catholic adoption charity to exclude gay couples as potential adoptive parents.  So it really is no surprise to see another amendment come forward from the bigots in the Lords.


The Cutting Edge Consortium, launched in November 2009, consists of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered groups, political and social justice activists, people of all faiths and none, trades unions and professional associations.

The CEC has been lobbying hard to prevent such exemptions from finding approval. From their press release (no link).

The Cutting Edge Consortium (CEC) deplores the tabling, yet again, of an amendment to the Equality Bill, this time by Baroness Williams of Crosby, designed to provide an explicit exemption for religious fostering and adoption agencies from anti-discrimination law. The aim of Equalities legislation should be that services targeted at various population groups are provided in the overall context of achieving a more equal society, not to institutionalize discrimination.

The gutting thing here, is not only that such amendments have wasted so much debate time already, but the Equality Bill is now more than likely to go to wash up, having been held up and not prioritised highly enough in the timetable.  Wash up is a dangerous place for such a Bill where the Tories will seek to remove some of the more progressive elements of the Bill.

CEC agrees with Baroness Murphy's comment at Committee stage:

"I would defend to the death the rights of religious groups and organisations to believe what they want to believe but, when it comes to how those religious groups behave in relation to the rest of society, they cannot exercise a right that so diminishes the rights of other groups. ... these amendments are deeply, offensively, homophobic."

CEC's Maria Exall said:

"Everyone committed to promoting equality and non-discrimination will be alarmed that charities providing key services in the public interest will be able to act in a prejudicial way to LGBT people if these amendments are passed."

CEC notes that claims are often made that this involves a matter of religious `doctrine' but, for example, Catholic teachings on sexual orientation are not to be considered as "core doctrine", and are officially recognised by the Vatican and  Catholic theologians world-wide as Third Level teachings and subject to development. As such they require "religious respect" from Catholics but are also capable of conscientious dissent. Such dissent does not excommunicate anyone from the Catholic Church. The avoidance of conflict "with the strongly held religious convictions of a significant number of the religion's followers" ignores the reality that many people of faith exercise their right to dissent in this area of religious teachings across a number of faiths and denominations.

All peers in the Lords are being urged to reject the amendment.  

Following the Court case, Catholic Care will be revising its objectives to explicitly state that "The Charity would only provide adoption services to heterosexuals..."

The Charity Commission is being asked to consider whether whether the benefits of the charity operating in this discriminatory manner outweigh the disbenefits of it not operating at all. Given that children in care are under the legal care of the local authority, not the agencies themselves, would authorities really want to be placing children with agencies that willfully discriminate?

A minority of religious adoption agencies have chosen to discontinue adoption work while still providing other services. However, many of these agencies have never discriminated against either single homosexual people or, more recently, same-sex couples since legislative changes enabled such joint adoption. They do not propose to do so now.

The Catholic Care case continues to drive a wedge between people in asserting that the rights of faith groups over ride those of gay people and thus reinforcing negativity on both sides. Hopefully the Lords will see sense again and the bigots will not win.
 

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I don't blame the Lords so much as I blame NuLab which has given so much encouragement of the years towards enshrining superstitious prejudice into law.

Ruth Kelly, a known religious homophobe, was specifically given the role of Equality minister, when it was obvious to all that she was wholly unsuited for such a task. That was all the signal the "faith" communities needed to ramp up their "objections" and ensure a gutting of the legislation in the Lords. If the Commons had held the line they wouldn't have dared.

i don't expect anything from right wing scum like the tories or NuLab. I'll keep my expectations on hold for whenever a progressive liberal left govt arrives.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Mar 22nd, 2010 at 02:07:31 PM EST
It is the Labour Party who are bringing in the Equality Bill and trying to tighten it up so these exemptions aren't there any more.  
It's Tories and bigots in the Lords who keep bringing these amendments forward.  Ruth Kelly was a disgrace and yes we can point at other Labour ministers who have let their religious beliefs guide them a little too much but don't write off the whole lot of them - many are very committed to bringing about stronger equality legislation that doesn't allow a hierarchy of rights for different groups.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 23rd, 2010 at 04:49:10 PM EST
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I would conclude that the labour party has two incompatible views. The liberal progressive part is working to strengthen the bill, another part, imo currently ascendant, is far more deferent to superstition.

so we have the war in the Lords between those two halves of the party where the conservatives can work with the Tories to gut the bill.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Mar 23rd, 2010 at 06:04:46 PM EST
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i can't believe anyone still takes the catholic dicta seriously, especially on sexual matters, let alone legislates discrimination to humour them.

surely people will see homosexuality as a natural response to an overcrowded planet soon.

turing is rolling in his grave...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Mar 25th, 2010 at 12:23:59 PM EST
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Turing was put in his grave by homophobia.

No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 02:38:06 AM EST
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yup, and the gvt recently apologised for having been so barbaric to him.

and now this?

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 03:50:45 AM EST
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It isn't the Government putting this amendment forward!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 04:08:12 AM EST
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Apparently.  Don't get all excited.  In 45 years the government will apologize and that will make everything peachy keen.

No one could have predicted
by ATinNM on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 04:20:35 AM EST
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yup, but they allow this kind of exceptionalism with regard to practices that are tantamount to discrimination, which is very much their purview.

you'd think the Reformation had never happened...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 04:25:41 AM EST
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The Government's equality bill is the one trying to get rid of these exemptions - so that such practices can no longer be lawful.  

It is the Lords who keep challenging it with amendments like this.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 04:29:03 AM EST
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sorry IW, duh.

ignorant me thunk the lords part of gvt. dubbleduh.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 04:45:43 AM EST
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And now that I'm going to hell ...

nighty night.

No one could have predicted

by ATinNM on Fri Mar 26th, 2010 at 04:35:04 AM EST


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