European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 25 July

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 09:08:43 AM EST
Romanian Foreign Affairs minister: the association of offering Romanian citizenship to Moldovans and illegal immigration in the EU is an artificial problem - Top News - HotNews.ro
The association made between Romania's decision to offer citizenship for Moldovans and illegal immigration in the EU is an artifical problem, Romania's Foreign Affairs minister Teodor Baconschi declared. He said that even though the international press wrote about this issue, he prefers not to consider it a press campaign on this matter. 
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:01:37 AM EST
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Tory tension over 'Brokeback coalition' - Channel 4 News
Speaking unguardedly at a lunch with ex-colleagues, senior Tory backbencher David Davis repeated a jibe that the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership was the "Brokeback coalition".

He said Lord Ashcroft had first suggested the comparison with the Oscar-winning film, Brokeback Mountain, about a gay relationship.

He also said the Big Society plans were "Blairite dressing", and added that the government "has a mechanism for dealing with the Liberal party, most of whom are inside the coalition. It does not have a mechanism for dealing with the Conservative party, most of whom are outside the coalition."

Financial Times  journalists overheard the exchange at the Boot and Flogger pub in London's Southwark.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:01:55 AM EST
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There's stealing my stuff!

Speaking unguardedly at a lunch with ex-colleagues, senior Tory backbencher David Davis repeated a jibe that the David Cameron-Nick Clegg partnership was the "Brokeback coalition".

He said Lord Ashcroft had first suggested the comparison with the Oscar-winning film, Brokeback Mountain, about a gay relationship.

I asked just a day ago who in this darling couple wore the high heels and bent over.  Dirty stealing bastards!  At least they read ET ... there is that.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:31:18 AM EST
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It's a great name and you can hear journalists all over the village itching to find ways of putting it into their stories from here on. This is the defining phrase and it isn't flattering.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:12:22 AM EST
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But who will get the Boot and who will be the Flogger?

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:23:19 AM EST
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Poll: Afghan exit date sought - Politiken.dk

A new Gallup poll shows that 62 percent of Danes want an exit date to be set for a Danish withdrawal from Afghanistan, irrespective of the situation on the ground in the country, according to Berlingske Tidende.

The poll also shows that almost 50 percent want Danish soldiers out of Afghanistan by 2014, with 20 percent accepting the end of 2014 as an exit date. Only seven percent are prepared to leave Danish soldiers in Afghanistan after 2014.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:03:08 AM EST
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Why the fuck are the Danes there at all?  I understand the BS of the UK but the Danes?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:33:58 AM EST
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I'm glad you understand the BS of the UK, cos I don't.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:14:24 AM EST
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My uneducated opinion ... the UK/the City is simply an extension of the criminal US government.  So what's the Dane's excuse?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:47:30 AM EST
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Why, NATO of course! Of which the current Secretary-General is Anders Fogh Rasmussen... a Dane...

But you may be forgiven (perhaps) for not being aware, from the backwoods of California, of the multiple ways in which the US exercises its hegemony over its vassals. ;)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:58:06 AM EST
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OK, NATO exists.  While the USSR existed I guess NATO had some reasons to go along with US BS.  But why would NATO follow the US's current BS?  Fear of the Russian bear?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:07:26 AM EST
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NATO is the US.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:10:23 AM EST
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Really?  Like a 51st state?  Wait!  That's Israel's positon.  52nd is Iraq.  We're trying to make Ashcanistan # 53 but that effort should end the US Empire.  I'm such an optimist.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:13:32 AM EST
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Ashcanistan ? not heard that one but it's got a ring.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:32:11 AM EST
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Don't remember the origin ... perhaps from my older brother, God knows when.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:35:05 AM EST
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BBC News - One dead and 42 injured as Swiss train derails in Alps

One person was killed and at least 42 others injured when a tourist train derailed in the Swiss Alps, police say.

At least 12 of the injured were said to be in a serious condition.

Most of the passengers on the Glacier Express were Japanese tourists, police said.

Three carriages came off the tracks and two tipped over in the accident, which occurred on a panoramic route between Zermatt and St Moritz.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 12:00:20 PM EST
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FT.com / Europe - Turkish court orders arrest of coup plot suspects
A court in Turkey ordered on Friday the arrest, or in many cases rearrest, of 102 people, including retired military commanders suspected of plotting to overthrow Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's government in 2003.

This year's investigations into the alleged plot code-named Sledgehammer shocked Turkey and aggravated tensions between the AK Party government and the secularist armed forces.
...
The arrests highlight a social transition in EU-membership candidate Turkey, as power shifts from traditional secular elites such as the armed forces to a new political class of conservative Muslims, epitomised by Mr Erdogan's AK Party.



"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 05:39:48 PM EST
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No sources, i've only been reading german language reports. So so sad.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 06:04:33 PM EST
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Looks pretty bad.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:26:28 AM EST
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19 die in German festival crush - Channel 4 News
Nineteen people have died and hundreds injured in a stampede at the Love Parade music festival in Germany. Organisers are now saying the festival may never happen again.

More than 300 people have been injured in a crush which took place last night at the Love Parade Festival in Duisberg, Germany.  

The free techno music festival was attended by up to 1.4 million people. The mass panic which caused the stampede occurred in an entrance tunnel to the festival site.  

Reports on French radio this morning said the site could only take half a million. Eye-witness reports were pretty shocking.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:03:10 AM EST
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somebody will be using the word "Hillsborough" at some point. How did they come up with the idea of using the same restricted passage as the sole entrance and exit ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:31:37 AM EST
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Especially with three times the crowd there should have been. Eye-witnesses I heard said the tunnel was crush conditions, and some tried to get away on a staircase with no railing, and when that was overcrowded some fell and were immediately stomped, and then hysteria set in.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:36:01 AM EST
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Police now report that no one died in the tunnel itself: of the 19 dead, 14 died falling from that staircase outside the tunnel, 2 were crushed on a billboard still outside the tunnel, the rest died in the hospital. It seems almost all of those in the tunnel were "only" hurt.

It is clear now from both eyewitness and police reports that the panic was ignited by the storming of and the falls from that staircase. The professor who made the safety analysis said that "no one could have foreseen this" and blamed the people who climbed that staircase. However, critics say something unexpected can always happen, especially with thousands of drugged youth who can't be expected to behave sanely, and the situation in the tunnel in the half hour prior to the panic was already described by eyewitnesses as critical.

Police mis-organisation is also in discussion: whatever role the tunnel and the staircase and the limited size of the site played, there was the crowding in the tunnel prior to the panic that strained people's nerves and also led some to climb of that staircase. Why didn't police keep more people from entering?

The police trade union, individual policemen talking to the media anonymously, a firefighter with name (talking to lawyers), the original inventor of the Love Parade, and several non-experts say that there were warnings ignored and even a larger-scale police safety plan thrown out, and point the blame at the organisers and the city who just wanted to make money.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 09:13:59 AM EST
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Somehow, when you see this;-

there were warnings ignored and even a larger-scale police safety plan thrown out, and point the blame at the organisers and the city who just wanted to make money.

the phrase "nobody could have foreseen" has a mocking quality

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 11:07:04 AM EST
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Yeah. And, the more I read on it, the more I think that there were multiple factors, each of which could have prevented the disaster.

  • Approval of a site with limited capacity: now we learn that the site was approved for a mere 250,000 people! Yet, the event was announced for 500,000, and the real number of people that came is still unclear.

  • Approval of escape routes: now we also learn that in the same approval, the organisers were released from the obligation regarding the width of escape routes.

  • The staircase at the epicentre of panic: according to further eyewitness reports, the staircase was opened by police, and that act already worsened the situation, because everyone tried to move that way. Now a single staircase, that's a real bottleneck. No wonder those who fell from the staircase were trampled under.

There was a big press conference yesterday with representatives of all the responsible (the organisers, the city leadership and bureaucrats who gave the questionable approvals, police leaders), but it was a bizarre event, with everyone refusing to answer questions of substance, and then a police leader visibly on the verge of tears gave a statement that there is full cooperation with investigators but no details will be revealed to media to protect his underlings.

Also, SPIEGEL reports (in the above linked article) it has information that at at least one police center, electronic data was wiped.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 03:48:49 AM EST
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Let's also be clear, the Love Parade founders had given up on the concept years ago, after mostly brilliant success at spreading the love and peace vibe.
This love parade was sponsored by McFit (health club chain), and its organizers have virtually nothing to do with the original spirit of the beautiful event. Also, bankrupt Duisburg wanted to capitalize on this, without being able to put in place proper planning.
the name remained love parade, but this was the free market version.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 02:19:29 PM EST
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I note that the Love Parade founders gave up after getting ever more obligations that ould have costed money :-)

The Love Parade was started with a trick: it was announced as a political protest march, thus security and cleanup was organised and paid by Berlin. In the last few years however, the political protest trick didn't work, and especially the heaps of rubbish left behind by the partypeople and the protection of parks was a cost factor difficult to meet without sponsors and tickets.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 03:54:33 AM EST
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The victims will sue Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Minister of Defense Ehud Barak, Minister of Foreign Affairs Abigdor Lieberman, Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Dan Meridor, Minister of Strategic Affairs Moshe Yaalon, Interior Minister Eli Yishai, Minister without portfolio Benny Bergin and Israeli Navy Commander Vice Admiral Eliezer Marom.

Due to a legal reform which limited Spanish authority to cases in which the victims are nationals, the lawsuit focuses on three Spanish citizens, the plaintiffs said.

Read more...



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 02:13:27 AM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 09:09:10 AM EST
Market panic abates | Presseurop - English

Even Moody's downgrade of Irish government bonds on 22 July, which came hot on the heels of a 14-July downgrade of Portuguese debt, has failed to reignite the flames.

On Monday, the New York Times published a long article, which documents "how quickly investor psychology has changed." Not only are investors not withdrawing from the eurozone, it appears they are returning - a fact reflected by Greece's successful re-emergence on the debt markets with a 1.65 billion auction of six-month bonds on 13 July. The 4.65% rate of interest the Greek government will have to pay remains high, but it is barely more than the rate it had to offer two months ago, before the announcement of the country's austerity package.

Spain, which had been threatened by contagion, also staged three well-subscribed bond sales in July. Bond auctions in Portugal and Italy were equally successful. As a consequence, the European Central Bank (ECB) has been able to cut back on its government bond purchases, after having mopped up 60 billion euros of sovereign debt: a sign that the situation is returning to normal.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:02:25 AM EST
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Seven European banks fail financial stress test -- EUbusiness - European Union business news search and analysis

(LONDON) - Government leaders and the IMF on Saturday hailed stress tests on European banks which failed seven of the 91 institutions checked, but markets remained nervous about the credibility of the exams.

The euro fell just after the release of the results but made up the lost ground. US stocks also ended slightly higher but European governments face a nervous wait for markets to reopen Monday to get the full global reaction.

German state-owned lender Hypo Real Estate, five regional savings banks in Spain and ATEBank of Greece failed the test of whether they could resist a new financial shock. All have been ordered to recapitalise or take state aid.

The Committee of European Banking Supervisors (CEBS), which carried out the tests, said the seven banks would need about 3.5 billion euros (4.4 billion dollars).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:20:18 AM EST
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Euro, stock markets rise on stress-test resultsTBC | European Voice

Financial markets have reacted positively to the results of stress tests on 91 of the EU's biggest banks, increasing government hopes that the exercise will restore investors' faith in Europe's financial sector.

The value of the euro rose after the publication of the results to reach $1.2916, compared to $1.2892 in late trading on Thursday. The euro had, earlier in the day, fallen to $1.2794 because of concerns that the stress-test exercise would not be sufficiently tough.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:45:55 AM EST
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Bernanke Says Tax-Cut Extension Maintains Stimulus (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

July 23 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said extending at least some of the tax cuts set to expire this year would help strengthen a U.S. economy still in need of stimulus and urged offsetting the move with increased revenue or lower spending.

"In the short term I would believe that we ought to maintain a reasonable degree of fiscal support, stimulus for the economy," Bernanke said yesterday under questioning from the House Financial Services Committee's senior Republican. "There are many ways to do that. This is one way."

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:53:16 AM EST
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"and urged offsetting the move with increased revenue or lower spending"

Great. Since it has been shown that, amongs the various ways that the Government can spend money, the Bush tax cuts are pretty much the least efficient in terms of stimulus, this would mean replacing a more efficient stimulus by a Bush tax cut.

All in the name of helping the economy of course. But it's pure starving the beast and ensuring that the rich get richer.

"Few can believe that suffering, especially by others, is in vain. - Galbraith"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 02:39:44 AM EST
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All in the name of helping the economy of course. But it's pure starving the beast and ensuring that the rich get richer

but as far as Bernanke is concerned, the whole of the US economy is about Wall street. so anything that is good for Wall St makes the economy better. As good a definition of the triumph of the economic parasite as we're gonna get.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:32:30 AM EST
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Sweet Europe, sour America? | Reuters

(Reuters) - Investors are finding themselves with a new kind of balancing act -- one in which they have to juggle with three major regions posing three significantly different circumstances.

Europe's bank stress testing, the focus of much of the past week's market debate, may have some impact on Monday but may well pale into insignificance given the most recent numbers on the broader economy.

First there is the United States, which is believed to be facing another slowdown, if not a double-dip recession.

Then there is Europe, suffering a debt crisis and austerity-bound, yet suddenly surprising everyone with an unexpected burst of economic vigor.

Thirdly, comes Asia, growing away so merrily that investors are beginning to be concerned that too much zeal will be exercised in trying to slow things down.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:55:19 AM EST
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John R. Talbott: The Real Reason Geithner Is Afraid of Elizabeth Warren
So where are the trillions of dollars of bad loans that the banks had on their books? They are still there. The Federal Reserve took possession temporarily of some of them as collateral for lending to the banks in an attempt to clean up the banks for their supposed" stress tests". But as of now, the trillions of dollars of underwater mortgages, CDO's and worthless credit default swaps are still on the banks books. Geithner is going to the familiar "bank in crisis" playbook and hoping that the banks can earn their way out of their solvency problems over time so the banks are continuing to slowly write off their problem loans but at a rate that will take years, if not decades, to clean up the problem.

And this is where defeat of the nomination of Elizabeth Warren becomes critical for Geithner. For Geithner's strategy to work, the banks have to find increasing sources of profitability in their business segments to balance out their annual loan loss recognition from their existing bad loans in an environment in which they continue to recognize new losses in prime residential mortgages, commercial real estate lending, sovereign debt investments, bridge loans to private equity groups, leverage buyout lending and credit card defaults.

The banks have made no secret as to where they will find this increase in cash flow. They intend to soak their small retail customers, their consumer and small business borrowers, their credit card holders and their small depositors with increased costs and fees and are continuing many of the bad mortgage practices that led to the crisis (ARM's, option pay deals, zero down payments, second mortgages, teaser rates, etc). American and Banking Market News reports this week that the rule changes in the financial reform bill may lead banks to start implementing fees that had essentially disappeared from the industry early in the new millennium, such as fees for not meeting minimum balance requirements on a checking account, or reinstituting fees for certain online banking transactions that are currently free or charging to receive a paper statement or to talk to a live teller as Bank of America's CEO has recently proposed.



"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 05:07:19 PM EST
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Even if Warren gets in, nothing will change.  Enough of this HOPE crap already.  We're all screwed until the US goes belly-up.  Then the fun begins.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:38:51 AM EST
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You have 7 years to experiment around. Just made sure that by then you are able to ensure that my Social Security payments are on payable and growing with huge inflation of the era. (We won't have to worry about wheelbarrows for the cash, since it will all be electronic then anyway.)

"That'll be $94 for that baguette Mr. State."

<hitting send key>"There's $100, keep the change and keep smiling."

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:26:57 AM EST
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You have 7 years to experiment around.

Don't understand your timeline.  Please explain.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:47:39 AM EST
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I'll be starting to take money from the Social Security fund to pay for my living expenses at that time.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:57:24 PM EST
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And Plan B is ... what?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 05:56:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What'd you say your address is?

I only eat vegetables. Will the internet still work? I can make web pages for you. And, uhm, I'll give you a 4 for everything...

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 06:58:10 AM EST
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FT.com / Companies / Banks - Bankers overpaid by $1.6bn during crisis
Citigroup, Bank of America and 15 other bailed-out financial services companies overpaid their top executives by $1.6bn during the height of the financial ­crisis, according to a review by the White House's ­special master on Wall Street compensation.

Kenneth Feinberg, who was appointed last year by Barack Obama, president, to oversee the pay policies at the companies that received the greatest government support, began in March his latest inquiry into top executives' compensation from late 2008 to early 2009.

While the payments were legal at the time, Mr Feinberg said on Friday, they would have fallen foul of restrictions the government set for participants in its troubled asset relief programme (Tarp).



"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 05:36:47 PM EST
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Bankers overpaid by $1.6bn during crisis

What do you mean "overpaid"?  You can't overpay your lord and master.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:40:49 AM EST
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Economics and Politics - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
In the figure below, I show an index of eurozone real GDP, from Eurostat, with 2007 fourth quarter -- a quarter in which Europe was doing OK, but certainly not experiencing inflationary overheating -- set at 100. And I compared it with a trend assuming 2 percent annual growth in potential output, a fairly conservative assumption even for Europe. Here's what it looks like:

Eurostat, author's estimate

So a huge gap has opened up between a reasonable estimate of potential output and actual output. Even if you believe that growth in Europe has picked up since the first quarter -- and that the pickup will continue -- it will take years to close that gap.



"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 05:46:37 PM EST
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Correct Link:
Europe's Gap - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 04:15:09 AM EST
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Calculated Risk: Part 5B. What Happens If Things Go Really Badly? More Things Can Go Badly: Credit Default Swaps, Interest Swaps and Options, Foreign Exchange
CR Note: This series is from reader "some investor guy".

  • Part 1: How Large is the Outstanding Value of Sovereign Bonds?

  • Part 2. How Often Have Sovereign Countries Defaulted in the Past?

  • Part 2B: More on Historic Sovereign Default Research

  • Part 3. What are the Market Estimates of the Probabilities of Default?

  • Part 4. What are Total Estimated Losses on Sovereign Bonds Due to Default?

  • Part 5A. What Happens If Things Go Really Badly? $15 Trillion of Sovereign Debt in Default

    In Part 5A, I showed a Really Bad scenario consistent with some very bad historic default rates for sovereign debt. That produced an estimate of $15.3 trillion of defaulted sovereign debt, with $7.5 to $10.5 trillion of losses.

    In today's post, we look at the effects of sovereign default on credit default swaps, interest rate swaps and options, and currency exchange contracts.


  • "Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
    by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 05:50:10 PM EST
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    I am am not an economist </disclaimer>, but envisioning a dozen countries defaulting on their sovereign debt and then Japan (yes, Japan) defaulting too, and this without ever considering the UK nor the USA getting into similar debt trouble, strikes me as a little bizarre, in the All's-quiet-on-the Western-Front category.

    Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
    by Bernard on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 06:29:52 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 09:09:33 AM EST
    N Korea threatens 'sacred war' - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English

    North Korea has said it would begin a "sacred war" against the United States and South Korea at "any time necessary" in response to "reckless" military exercises by the allies.

    The threat on Saturday came a day ahead of joint naval and air drills planned by the US and South Korea.

    "All these war manoeuvres are nothing but outright provocations aimed to stifle the Democratic People's Republic of Korea [DPRK] by force of arms to all intents and purposes," the National Defence Commission (NDC) chaired by Kim Jong-Il, the country's leader, said in a statement.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:06:26 AM EST
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    France24 - N. Korea warns South and the US of 'powerful nuclear deterrent'
    AFP - The United States called on North Korea Saturday to avoid "provocative words" after Pyongyang threatened a nuclear response to new US sanctions and joint US naval exercises with South Korea.
       
    "We are not interested in a war of words with North Korea," said State Department spokesman Philip Crowley.
       
    "What we need from North Korea is fewer provocative words and more constructive action."
       
    North Korea said earlier Saturday it was ready for a "retaliatory sacred war" in response to ramped-up US pressure against Pyongyang, including joint US-South Korean naval exercises.
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:12:59 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    The Grade-C movie "North Korea threatening blah-yadda-yadda-blah."  This thing comes back more often than Nightmare on Elm Street."

    If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
    by ATinNM on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 11:00:12 AM EST
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    Than Shwe Visit Condemned in Letter to Indian PM

    Civil society groups based in India sent a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Friday to  protest an upcoming state visit to the country by the head of Burma's ruling junta, Snr-Gen Than Shwe.

    The letter, submitted by the Burma Center Delhi (BCD) and signed by 38 civil society organizations and 71 individuals, says that "Than Shwe does not represent the people of Burma but only the military regime. India should not work freely with the military regime."

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:07:21 AM EST
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    France24 - France aids terror raid in Mauritania, bids to free hostage
    The French Defense Ministry confirmed on Friday that it provided logistical and technical support to a Mauritanian military operation to rescue a French citizen held captive by militants linked to Al Qaeda.
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:12:15 AM EST
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    Top US military chief in Islamabad as drone kills 16 | RFI

    US military chief Admiral Mike Mullen has arrived in Pakistan. Before his arrival, a US drone killed at least 16 people in an attack on an alleged armed Islamist camp in the South Waziristan tribal area.

    The dead in the drone attack were all Islamist fighters, according to military official. South Waziristan, which is on the border with Afghanistan, was the scene of an anti-Taliban offensive last year.

    Mullen is to meet Pakistan's military head General Ashfaq Kayani - the 19th time the two have met, according to Mullen's aides - as well as US officers overseeing military work with the Pakistanis.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:16:15 AM EST
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    Anger Rises Over U.S. Tax Dollars for Settlements - IPS ipsnews.net
    RAMALLAH, Jul 24, 2010 (IPS) - Anger has arisen in Palestinian areas over reports that millions of tax-exempt dollars from the U.S. are being funneled towards Israel's illegal settlement building in the Palestinian West Bank -- in flagrant violation of international law.

    This is happening under the nose of the U.S. administration despite its claims of support for a two-state solution and criticism of Israel's continued settlement building.

    The Palestinian Authority (PA) based in Ramallah has expressed outrage. "Adhering to international law is a big step towards holding Israel accountable for its actions," PA spokesman Ghassan Khatib told IPS from the Muqata (government) headquarters in Ramallah.

    "Settlements violate international law, and the United States is supposed to be sponsoring a two-state solution, yet it gives deductions for donation to the settlements," said Saeb Erekat the PA's chief negotiator.

    According to a recent report in The New York Times 40 U.S. groups have raised more than 200 million dollars in tax-deductable donations for Jewish settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem during the last ten years. U.S. tax rules prohibit the use of charitable funds for political purposes at home or abroad.
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:21:59 AM EST
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    Tourists Now in Their Land of Birth - IPS ipsnews.net
    HEBRON, Occupied West Bank, Jul 23, 2010 (IPS) - Beyond the pernicious well-documented aspects of the Israeli Occupation, all sorts of niggling fragments of Israeli control over Palestinian life, and individual petty cases of nastiness leave new Israeli talk of "gestures" towards peace hollow.

    No more confidence-building measures, no more easing up on the Palestinians until they demonstrate to us that they are genuine about peace, is Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's strident position.

    But when is a gesture a genuine confidence-building measure? And when does Israeli talk of "gestures" in fact mask blatant Israeli insensitivity, total lack of responsibility of occupier vis-à-vis occupied?
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:25:26 AM EST
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    Beijing's population surges near 20 million
    Beijing municipal people's congress revealed this week that the Chinese capital now has 19.72 million inhabitants, growing by over 3% in the past 2 years.

    Previous estimates had predicted that the city's population would swell to that level a decade later than it has. According to the guidelines regarding Beijing's development between 2004 and 2020 set by the State Council, the number of permanent residents living in capital should have been capped below 18 million until the end of 2020.

    However, a recently released report from the population investigation and research team within the people's congress shows that by the end of 2009, approximately 12.46 million people in the capital held a Beijing "hukou" (permanent residence). An additional 7.26 million inhabitants were migrant workers who had been living in the city for more than half a year and who are therefore also classified as permanent residents.
    ...
    Natural birth contributed 482,000 extra people during the past four years while the jump in the floating population accounted for 1.52 million additional inhabitants.


    Hat tip naked capitalism

    "Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
    by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 07:45:47 PM EST
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    Agencias Bogotá- The Colombian Minister of Defense, Gabriel Silva, assured Saturday that the number of FARC guerillas has been reduced to 8,000 members from the 20,000 it had in the year 2002.

    Venezuela - On Saturday President Hugo Chavez read a letter from a highly credible source within his government which warns that "events were about to unfold" within the country. The missive, which contained some encrypted details, speaks of initial plans of execution together with a military operation that has accelerated. "Mauricio is the  objective, and the other is the defeat of the government." They will pursue this from the north in a combined operation with two objectives but they have been unable to enter Caracas, hence they are hunting outside of Caracas. They are trying to neutralize the Armed Forces and are incorporating retired military people within their ranks.  Tell Mauricio to take this information seriously, read Chavez.


    "Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
    by maracatu on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 08:27:59 PM EST
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    ...sorry, an electrical surge prevented me from including this last news item...
    Most of the Latin American and Caribbean countries are seeing growth this year, with an unexpected expansion of 5.2 percent on average, but in 2011 the forecast is just 3.9 percent, according to figures released by ECLAC, a United Nations regional agency, Wednesday in the Chilean capital.  This year's growth will help unemployment in the region shrink from 2009's 8.2 percent of the economically active population to 7.8 percent.


    "Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
    by maracatu on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 08:43:50 PM EST
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    Des installations de la CIA en Tunisie ? « sami ben gharbia
    From his prison cell in Bizerte (65km north of Tunis), The Tunisian prisoner Ramzi Bettibi managed to smuggle a very alarming letter that found its way on to the Internet (available in French). Ramzi is serving a four-year sentence at Bizerte for copying, onto a forum board he moderated, an online statement from a group threatening terror attacks if former Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon attended the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) that was held in Tunisia in 2005. Ramzi Bettibi was arrested on 15 March 2005 at the internet café where he worked. In prison he is frequently subjected to torture, which the authorities hope will make him collaborate with the State Security services. "Bettibi should be freed because the government never proved that he had a criminal intent to threaten others or to incite violence," said Sarah Leah Whitson, director of the Middle East and North Africa division at Human Rights Watch in a statement published last year. "Under these circumstances, cutting and pasting on the Internet should not be a crime," she added.


    never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
    by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:33:51 AM EST
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    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 09:10:18 AM EST
    Waterproof crops for sustainable food

    The destruction of crops has always been a considerable problem. In particular, rice farmers of South East Asia are directly affected by heavy floods and damaging salt contamination every year, losing large amounts of harvest. Floods in this region are a direct result of torrential rains and overflowing rivers.

    At the forefront of research and development into newer, stronger crops that might resist such damage are the CGI (Clinton Global Initiative) and the IRRI (International Rice Research Institute) - the duo plans to provide a more sustainable crop, that would be unaffected by such flooding.

    In a news release entitled "IRRI-bred rice varieties for the Philippines," the IRRI demonstrates three innovative newly tested (yet to be distributed) rice crops: salt-tolerant rice, flood-tolerant rice, and drought tolerant rice.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:18:06 AM EST
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    Given the farce that was the 'green revolution' in the tropics, hopefully the farmers will be much more wary this time around.  (of course, they won't)
    by njh on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 07:26:33 PM EST
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    The "Green revolution" led to subsidised dumping of First-World cereals that ruined the peasant agriculture of Africa.
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 08:06:16 AM EST
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    Not to mention the replacement of traditional sustainable cropping in the tropics with fertilizer driven rice farming.  Which made previously food positive countries become negative.
    by njh on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:46:53 PM EST
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    Spain's Renewable Energy Heads West - IPS ipsnews.net
    BARCELONA, Jul 22, 2010 (Tierramérica) - Plagued by Spain's economic recession and subsidy cuts, renewable energy businesses are following the sun and wind to Latin America in search of profits.

    In 2009, the wind energy companies of the Madrid-based AEE (Asociación Empresarial Eólica) reached 1,274 megawatts installed capacity in Latin America. At the head of the list was Mexico (650 MW), followed by Brazil and Chile.

    The plan is to expand to Argentina (700 MW), Peru (110 MW) and Venezuela (100 MW), with additional investments in Mexico and Brazil.

    "A recent study shows that by 2025 the investments could reach 46,000 installed MW" in Latin America, the Association's energy policy director Heikki Willstedt Mesa told Tierramérica.
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:28:20 AM EST
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    African lake warmest in 1,500 years
    Providence, R.I. (UPI) Jul 21, 2010
    Africa's Lake Tanganyika, the second-oldest and second-deepest lake on Earth, is warmer now than it has been in 1,500 years, scientists say.

    Experiencing unprecedented warming during the last century, the lake's surface waters are the warmest on record, LiveScience.com reported Wednesday.

    The warmer waters are linked to a decrease in the lake's productivity, affecting fish stocks depended upon by millions of people in the region, researchers say.

    Rift lakes like Tanganyika are created when two of Earth's continental plates move apart, expand and eventually become ocean basins over millions of years.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:30:46 AM EST
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    Where The Wild Veggies Are
    Munich, Germany (SPX) Jul 23, 2010
    Sites of origin and regions of domestication of many of our most important cultivated plants are still unknown. The botanical genus Cucumis, to which both the cucumber (Cucumis sativus) and the honeydew melon (C. melo) belong, was long thought to have originated and diversified in Africa, because many wild species of Cucumis are found there.

    "A molecular genetic analysis has now shown that the wild populations that gave rise to melons and cucumbers originated in Asia", says LMU botanist Professor Susanne Renner.

    "In addition, we have found that 25 related species which have never been formally described are found in Asia, Australia and regions around the Indian Ocean."

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:43:13 AM EST
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    Temperature Constancy Appears Key To Tropical Biodiversity
    Cambridge MA (SPX) Jul 22, 2010
    The tropics owe their stunning biodiversity to consistent year-round temperatures, not higher temperatures or more sunlight, according to a novel survey of insect diversity at different latitudes and at different points in the planet's history.

    The finding, presented this week in the journal Paleobiology by researchers from Harvard University, Simon Fraser University, and Brandon University, may finally answer a question that has dogged scientists for centuries.

    It also suggests, intriguingly, that the world is likely far less diverse today than it was tens of millions of years ago, when the entire Earth had consistent year-round temperatures, much like the modern tropics.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:44:40 AM EST
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    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 09:10:45 AM EST
    Catholic church embarrassed by gay priests revelations | World news | The Guardian

    The Catholic church, already reeling from a string of clerical sex abuse scandals, is facing new embarrassment after an Italian magazine published an investigation into what it termed the double life of gay priests in Rome.

    Using hidden cameras, the weekly Panorama, owned by Italy's prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, captured priests visiting gay clubs and bars and having sex. The Vatican does not condemn homosexuals, but it teaches that gay sex is "intrinsically disordered". In one of his earliest moves, pope Benedict barred actively gay men from studying for the priesthood.

    The diocese of Rome lashed out at the prime minister's magazine, saying its aim was "to create scandal [and] defame all priests". But it also urged gay clerics to leave both the closet and the priesthood.

    It said, "Consistency would require that they come into the open", but that they "ought not to have become priests".

    The semi-official papal daily, L'Osservatore Romano, made no reference to the affair. Vatican Radio reported it briefly.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:09:31 AM EST
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    The harder they squeeze, the more ridiculous they become

    keep to the Fen Causeway
    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:03:44 AM EST
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    Stone Age dildo stokes global media interest - The Local
    A tool fashioned from a stag's antler and believed to be a Stone Age dildo has caused a global sensation since its discovery in Sweden earlier this month.
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:10:06 AM EST
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    It is finds like this that causes me to swell with tremendous pride, glorying in my ancestral heritage.

    Although some caution is required.  As a commenter perspicaciously observed:

    Only four 11 centimeters (4 inches) long? Must be from a Norwegian.


    If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
    by ATinNM on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 11:17:32 AM EST
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    Ridiculous! The object is a dibber.

    You can't be me, I'm taken
    by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 11:41:32 AM EST
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    The motif of the sacred phallus impregnating Mother Earth is widespread in Neolithic, early farming, cultures.  Wouldn't surprise me if this was used in religious ceremonies at the time; way more likely than its being used as a sex toy.

    If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
    by ATinNM on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 01:04:49 PM EST
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    ATinNM:
    causes me to swell

    Whatever turns you on...

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 11:44:06 AM EST
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    ;-)


    If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
    by ATinNM on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 01:05:01 PM EST
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    US state attorneys press Google in Street View probe
    San Francisco, Usa (AFP) July 21, 2010
    US state attorneys on Wednesday pressed Google to name workers who wrote "snooping" code that captured personal data from wireless networks while Street View cars mapped streets.

    "Google's responses continue to generate more questions than they answer," said Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, part of a 38-state coalition investigating whether the search giant broke US law.

    Blumenthal in June launched the probe of "Google's deeply disturbing invasion of personal privacy," which has drawn ire and scrutiny in an array of countries.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:42:32 AM EST
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    The Dangers of Friending Strangers: the Robin Sage Experiment | Armed with Science

    Adding tons of Facebook friends doesn't necessarily make you popular; it may actually put you and the Defense Department (DoD)'s information security at risk--especially when you have friends you don't even know.

    Provide Security, a cyber security company, illustrated this danger with the Robin Sage Experiment. The experiment created fake Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn profiles under the alias, "Robin Sage." A photo of a cute girl (borrowed from an adult website) and the job title "Cyber Threat Analyst" completed the fake profiles.

    From there, Thomas Ryan, co-founder & managing partner at Provide Security, posing as Robin, sent requests and established social network connections with more than 300 professionals in the National Security Agency, DoD, and Global 500 corporations.

    Robin's new friends revealed information to Ryan that violated military operational security and personal security restrictions.



    never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
    by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 08:04:56 PM EST
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    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 09:11:08 AM EST
    Putin rides Harley Davidson "tricked out" trike during Ukrainian bike show | Russia | RIA Novosti

    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin arrived to the bike show in the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol, riding three-wheeled Harley Davidson "tricked out piece of iron".

    The bikers, gathered at the 14th International annual bike show, welcomed premier who headed the line of bikers. He was riding posh Harley Davidson trike decorated with Russian and Ukrainian flags.

    "Bike is the most democratic transport vehicle. Bike is the most daring, challenging as it gives its owner the tempting feeling of freedom, that is why one can say without any exaggeration, bike is a symbol of freedom," Putin said.

    The image of the premier was totally matching the biker's one. He was wearing black jeans, black shirt, sunglasses and biker gloves.

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:08:01 AM EST
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    "Tricked out " ? What, you mean it's able to turn corners ?

    keep to the Fen Causeway
    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:05:24 AM EST
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    Training wheels.  Baseball cards in the spokes.

    I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
    by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 07:18:04 AM EST
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