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by In Wales
Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 11:14:15 AM EST

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I delighted in the delights of Barry Island this morning. What did you do today?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 11:15:05 AM EST
Now all the steam engines have gone from Dai Woodhams yard, there's no reason to go there anymore.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 11:53:07 AM EST
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Berthed Migeru overnight before sending him off for fencing supplies and the last of the Parisian summer (it starts to rain next week, just in time for meetup - harumph). I am trusting he caught his train anyway.

God, football tonight. Dare  I watch ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 11:59:09 AM EST
Fencing eh? I knew that boy would come to no good. And what 'supplies'? All you need for that work is 3 balls.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 12:16:08 PM EST
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Not many people got them, though, have they?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 12:23:10 PM EST
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You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:17:58 PM EST
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In the US Quincy Jones, a legend in the music business, is almost unknown to the general public.

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:24:46 PM EST
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The "no squeeks" story about him made me chuckle.

never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:50:18 PM EST
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Do you really think so? Maybe it is because he took such a poor picture for that Pawnbroker album.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:08:34 PM EST
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Yes.

The next time you are with a group of "normal people" unconnected with the music business ask who Quincy Jones is.  Most, I predict, will stare at you blankly and say, "Who?"

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:20:49 PM EST
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I'm sure you are right; I guess I'm not out of the circle enough.

I had the honor of working around him for several years; a very class guy.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:31:03 PM EST
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How many people even know the process of recording?  Bet, if you asked around, most people think the band waltzs into a studio, tell the recording engineer what do, ingests copious quantities of drugs¹, starts playing, and it all magically happens.

¹  Which may not be too far from the truth for some sessions ... me no know

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:38:30 PM EST
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i'm going to stop here. i suppose it's possible in the wilds of NM that "people" don't understand recording... but not in the real world.

not to say the fine points are understood, but...

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:41:53 PM EST
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AT, that's completely false. Several generations are totally aware of Quincy Jones, and sample him forever. And they know who played with him.

What makes you think he's unknown? back to modern culture 101. :-)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:25:38 PM EST
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Because anecdotal is the singular of data.

:-)

Every time I bring him up in casual conversation I get blank stares and "Who?"

Except for those who think he did the voice for Bugs Bunny.

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:29:45 PM EST
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that is indicative of with whom you have casual conversation. believe me, he's well known, and well respected by very many. in several generations.


Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:38:02 PM EST
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The only way to settle this would be to gin-up a poll and go ask.  I don't happen to have ten grand rattling around in me pockets.

:-)

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:43:26 PM EST
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i don't hear the sound of 10K rattling around in my pockets at the moment either, and if i did, i might spend it on something other.

btw, who is this Jones guy we're discussing?  trumpet player?

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 04:52:21 PM EST
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Why ? Is there a 10K bottle of Caol ila you have your eye on ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 04:56:10 PM EST
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Despite my love of Caol Ila, there's not a chance i would spend even 1K on a bottle. Limit is about 0.1K, and i haven't even had a sip in 3-4 months. (Though i guess that means the next sip will be delicious.)

DE got by a very engaging, and talented, young team from Belgien.  Seems England had no trouble with your second home.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 05:38:17 PM EST
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Ha, I was glad I wasn't in a bar in Sandanski last night. that would have been difficult.

But we're good at beating weak teams once we're 2-0 up. nobody should forget that Bulgaria forced 3 good saves from our keeper at 1-0, which hardly says good things about our defence.  It's when we play half way decent teams who are well organised that our problems start.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 08:01:43 AM EST
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Umm, I know who Quincy Jones is, and I love his music.  I'm a long way from the general public, but I'm a long way from the music biz too.  That at least makes the anecdote plural.  ;}

Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves, for we shall never cease to be amused.
by budr on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 03:26:19 PM EST
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FWIW, he's well-known in France, even if not at the widest level of popular culture. But music lovers and music pros know.

But that's entirely FWIW...

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 03:53:50 PM EST
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first steiger flick i e'er saw. damn fine actor...

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 02:07:35 AM EST
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New Statesman - Laurie Penny - William Hague's duty to the Tory Party

"Well, if you're not gay, why haven't you got that nice girl pregnant yet?" It's the sort of question one expects only from atrocious, senile grandparents and the British press in silly season.

Beset by trollish gossip about his relationship with his former aide Christopher Myers, the Foreign Secretary has felt obliged to make an extremely intimate public announcement about the state of his wife's uterus to satisfy the snarling attack-dogs of the sweltering summer media hiatus. Poor William Hague. Poor Chris Myers. And poor Ffion Hague, whose multiple miscarriages have now been offered to the world as evidence of her husband's integrity and virility.

If there is one lesson we've learned in the past week, amid the breathless coverage of David and Samantha Cameron's new arrival, it's that the reproductive organs of Tory wives are extremely important and deeply indicative of their husbands' capacity to exercise power responsibly and well. After all, if a man doesn't know and control what's going on in his lady's pants, how can he be expected to run a government department?



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 12:04:18 PM EST
Why are they after Hague?  

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
by ATinNM on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 12:45:14 PM EST
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Because they can. Because it's a headline. Because it sells newspapers.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:07:34 PM EST
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Not just a bit somewhere because it's all the same the Conservatives who lay claim to "values" politics?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 03:55:41 PM EST
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well, there is that as well

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 03:56:51 PM EST
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Actually some have suggested that Andy Coulson threw it out as a distraction from his own little bother-ette regarding the phone tapping scandal the NYT has cooked up.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:10:17 PM EST
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talking of which, this is an interesting question;-

Liberal conspiracy - What would the Met get for not pursuing NotW phone-hacking?.

Perhaps the most disturbing revelation in the New York Times Story, as Tom watson says in this post at Jack of Kent, is this:

The New York Times also suggests, for the first time, direct police collusion with a commercial media organisation, an unnamed senior investigator alleging that a Scotland Yard press officer stressed the department's "long-term relationship with News International".

A Scotland Yard press officer allegedly urging the police to go easy on the News of the World because of an alleged "long-term relationship with News International"? Whatever could he have meant?



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:15:16 PM EST
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Well tjat will be another you heard it hete first thing then.

never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 04:50:40 PM EST
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Well, this is what happens when you belong to a party of hypocrisy.

I feel very sorry for the wife. She did not deserve having her personal travails dragged out into the spotlight.

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:18:02 PM EST
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Yay!  The electricity is back again (let's hope it STAYS this time as yesterday it only lasted scarcely two hours!)

+withholds dancing in the street until there is certainty the current is here to stay+

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne

by maracatu on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 12:53:42 PM EST
As long as it stays on longer each time it returns you can call it progress.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:05:37 PM EST
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Best of luck

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 01:07:48 PM EST
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Sounds like Baghdad without the explosions.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 04:51:37 PM EST
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yay keep pedalling! (and advocating solar/wind!) the latter in, er, moderation...

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 02:10:48 AM EST
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Here you can monitor the daily power output of all grid-connected solar power in Germany, complete with animated map.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:20:21 PM EST
(The website went on-line today.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 02:21:03 PM EST
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Huge earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand

Yes, i know it's a dkos diary, but they have the details

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 03:58:07 PM EST
Quake of 7.4 hits New Zealand near Christchurch | Reuters

(Reuters) - A major earthquake of 7.4 magnitude hit New Zealand, 30 km (20 miles) west of Christchurch early on Saturday morning, causing no immediate reports of casualties but widespread damage, authorities said.

The quake, which had a depth of 33 kms (20.5 miles), struck around 4.35 a.m. local time (1635 GMT Friday) and was felt throughout much of the South Island and southern parts of the North Island, but did not trigger a tsunami.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 04:08:21 PM EST
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Earthquake leaves New Zealand trembling | Herald Sun

A STRONG earthquake has caused widespread damage and power cuts across New Zealand's second-largest city.

Shaken residents told how they cowered under doorways as the earth moved violently for what seemed as long as a minute.

The quake's magnitude was revised downwards slightly from an initial estimate of 7.4 to 7.2, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) said.

However, it was powerful enough to topple chimneys and walls and send frightened locals scurrying out of their beds to safety when the tremor hit at 4.30am local time.

USGS experts said the quake struck New Zealand's South Island 19 miles (30 km) from the island's largest city, Christchurch, at a depth of 10 miles (16.1 km).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 04:08:35 PM EST
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BBC News - Strong earthquake rocks New Zealand's South Island

A 7.0-magnitude earthquake has struck off New Zealand's South Island, the US Geological Survey has said.

The epicentre was 55km (35 miles) north-west of Christchurch, at a depth of 12 km (7.5 miles), it added.

Police reported widespread minor damage and local power cuts. Christchurch is New Zealand's second largest city with a population of about 386,000, but no casualties have yet been reported.

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre said there was a risk of a local tsunami.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 04:08:53 PM EST
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Tonight's DRIM has been truncated.

Attention! You will remain in your places. You will not experience withdrawal. You are getting sleepy. You have nothing to add, and nothing is required. Nothing is happening that you should know, and all fermentations are continuing as programmed.

Please stay alert to unnormal and immoral events in your neighborhood, and report them to your local master.

As always, there will be weather anomalies. Stay calm, and heed the sirens. (not those Sirens, they're just singers.)

If you become nervous in any manner, please begin to shuffle your feet, or you will be shot.

Remain proud that you are capable of adhering to the New Order.

Stay vigilant, as your next compulsory advisory may come at any moment.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Sep 3rd, 2010 at 06:36:29 PM EST
Eat your hearts out, Geo. Orwell and T. Gilliam, me gots 4 4s for this somewhat perceptive, perhaps funny brilliance

(it was written when nearing midnight, there was still no Salon (that was my point)... which later turned out to be some of DoDo's fer sure better late than never brilliance... when finally posted. We are all so lucky here.)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 05:15:30 PM EST
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That Salon was hidden until midnight because I set the wrong settings (another FP corrected the mistake) -- belated apologies.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 05:57:14 AM EST
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