On the (Mili)band wagon

by In Wales
Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 10:37:17 AM EST

On Monday 30th August I found myself on a coach to London out of curiosity more than anything else, with the destination being the Movement for Change London Assembly, the key event in David Miliband's campaign timetable.

And very interesting it was too.

Halleluja!

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Three months into the Labour Party leadership selection campaign and things have been hotting up, a little.  It has remained fairly good natured, at least overtly.  Covert tactics of attack have increased in frequency as the ballot papers have landed on members' doorsteps.  

Diane Abbott is fairly unnoticeable, fulfilling her token black woman role nicely (not a criticism of her by the way), Andy Burnham has done quite well despite having almost no chance of winning, Ed Balls has been quite shouty and then we have the Miliband Brothers dominating the scene.

I perhaps unfairly described Ed Miliband to a friend as the Huw Lewis of the race - referring to the grassroots underdog who ran in the Welsh Labour leadership selection earlier this year.

He is actually doing far better than I expected and seems to be a much stronger candidate than he ought to be.  David too, is doing extremely well but everyone expected that.

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I still don't know who I will vote for at the moment. I wish I could be immersed in the campaigns of all the candidates, meet each one, see them speak, and see them all behind the scenes.  

I'm not great at analysing the political agendas and dissecting gossip surrounding all the key people, largely due to lack of time and interest in obsessing over such things.  But I can tell you what the public figures are like as people, thanks to my 'fly on the wall' status as a photographer when documenting events and campaigns. This insight to politicians as people when they think nobody (who matters) is looking, is crucial information in conjunction with voting records and manifestos.

Locally I have been involved with the Movement for Change, which has trained up community organisers across the UK to bring together people across communities to identify issues and collectively seek action to address them.  It is something we really need locally, since I live in a very divided ward.  It is part of the campaign but not all people involved with the Movement for Change are even Labour Party members.  Campaign gimmick yes, but it does have huge potential for having an impact.  All very Obama style, nonetheless.

The London Assembly brought together people from across the UK, who were angry about the impact of the ConDem policies on their lives.  

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The Movement for Change London Assembly

A long line of real people spoke to the Assembly of 1000 people and told their stories of how a Labour Government had been there for them, and how the ConDems were on the path towards ruining their lives.  The conclusion from most of these speeches was "vote for David, he's the only man who can save us".  

Sarcasm aside, it was a very moving event, it was very authentic, most people who spoke are not public speakers at all.  Their stories really did mean something. It inspired people, the fire was lit again.  It made me believe that perhaps we can bring activism back. I couldn't help but wish that Labour Party conferences could have an element of this in them.

But in reality I was there to try to get a better on grip on who David Miliband is.  Has the Blairite changed his ways?  He says he has.  And do you know what? I believe that he believes that.

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Co-Chairs for the event

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Supporters in the crowd

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Et viola!  Brass band and big flags

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David greets the crowds

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Is this a shell shocked look or one of "OMG I'm winning this"?

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After a very moving speech from a man talking about his family and disabled son, the child was brought up onto the stage to meet David

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David stands up to speak. Cue thunderous applause.

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If you are interested, David's speech can be found here

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Pointing the finger of blame at the ConDems

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Telling us how he has changed as a politician

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"This is the real coalition in Britain today" | David Miliband for Labour Leader

With you leading the charge, with your commitment and drive and energy I'll put our good society head to head with the Tory idea of a big society any time, any place, anywhere.

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Cue thunderous applause

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During the break

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A speech from the Congolese for Labour organisation of 100 people who are supporting David

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A song to wrap up from a talented local girl

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David wraps up

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And sends us on our way

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And we leave London

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To pursue the dream

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 10:41:42 AM EST
Incredible photos! I'm not much into human photography, but this one, the last B&W and the before-last colour David Millibrand photos, the co-chairs and the Congolese for Labour photos are poster-worthy in particular...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 03:46:31 PM EST
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Is it just me, or is he looking kinda sorta like Obama?

Without watching a video it's hard to be sure, but the body language in the photos looks contrived and rather forced.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 03:26:07 PM EST
What ever he is, given the pictures In Wales took, he or one of the other candidates should hire her as their photographer. The expressions captured are excellent. Way to go.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 03:32:12 PM EST
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Photos I took of my MP were published in the Guardian online this week and I'll be following him around Westminster soon too.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 03:43:01 PM EST
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Better start training an assistant for the next time you are a candidate!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 07:09:04 PM EST
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There are clips of the speech here

I was tempted to post the entire series of photos as thumbnails because there were some very interesting insights to be gleaned from his face, hands, body language.  I think you are right - it was an incredibly polished performance.  He glanced back at his bullet point notes on the podium I think 4 times and he was obviously very well rehearsed.

There were points in the speech where I could see he was absolutely genuine - he does believe that he has changed as a politician over the course of the campaign.  

I saw him speak in Cardiff early on in the campaign and he was very polished then but in a way that to many people looks incredibly authentic.  But that was in a fairly small room, this was a huge venue filled with 1000 people.  So yes, I'd say that his body language was contrived a fair bit of the time.

Watching him closely while other people were speaking, he very frequently wasn't 'present', he nodded sagely and pursed his lips, clapped as appropriate but then went off on a train of thought somewhere.

He talked a lot about power, about giving power back to the people, and in a way the Movement for Change has been an action to back this pledge up, but I don't know how it translates to power in the Labour Party.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 03:41:19 PM EST
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Or government policy if he gets into power? After all, Bliar had his grassroots movement support, too, but then he felt more relevant in the company of powerful and rich people...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 03:50:04 PM EST
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I always thought, if that's the beats that comes out of the B-Lair, be careful of the one that comes out of the A-Lair.

Utsukushikereba sore de ii
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 09:12:09 PM EST
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Actually, watching the video reminds me of a couple of 'stories' that were clearly very personal to him that he felt passionately about and it came across as he spoke.  So it was mixed, some bits were contrived but there were some very authentic moments too I think.  

He seems to be a decent man, but I still haven't worked out what I think is most important for the leadership election.  I find it hard to trust a Blairite, but he is very persuasive as a speaker.  But then again so was Tony Blair.  Does Ed Miliband have what it takes as a leader, will he be more likely to bring the grassroots and and activism back within the Party?  I wish I could have seen him speak in the flesh to get a better idea of him.  Argh!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 03:55:25 PM EST
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Well, my money's on Ed Miliband. He's now at 9 to 4 and I reckon them's good odds.

If it were first past the post, DM would walk it, but I reckon that there may end up being more against him than there are against his younger brother.

The fact that Blair, most of the Press - including the Observer just now

David Miliband is the right choice for Labour | Observer leader | Comment is free | The Observer

For the top job, David Miliband is the better candidate.

are behind him and some are caricaturing Ed as a leftie - is likely to help Ed come above his brother in the preferences of those who vote for the other candidates.

My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that.

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 04:18:11 PM EST
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Great photos, btw.

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 04:18:42 PM EST
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I think it would be great to disassemble, the coaching, tutoring, workshopping and consulting that goes into these natural-looking performances.

Story-telling and parables are top-grade tools of persuasion, so I'm not surprised to see a politician using them.

What I'd really like to see is someone putting DM and the rest on the spot with some tough questions about their likely relationship with the City and with the corporations. If anyone is looking for a litmus test that's where they'll find it - especially with questions that concentrate on policy specifics and not on vague generalities. If there's any hesitancy at all around policy committments, you can be sure the rest is just stage craft.

I'm unapologetically hard-line about this because of the Blair and Obama experiences, and because it's so damn easy to be affable - and not that much harder to appear completely genuine, as Blair proved.

I remember seeing DM being quizzed on election night. He came across to me as very smooth, very professional, very intelligent, but also oddly lacking substance on specifics.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 09:30:55 PM EST
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Hope and change, yeah, let's us adults do that 'pretend naive' thing that's so cool and 'young', and get behind what appears to be a Blair insider of the first rank.

When there's no substance in the speeches there's a rea$on, yawn yada yada yada. It's just sad in 2010 to see this, but it's what the pretend left has to sell, and Miliband does it well.

But the photos are excellent, definitely.

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 01:35:21 AM EST
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too true, all of it...

DM is a poor man's tony blair, charisma-free. one one hand it's good not to see someone sanctimonious, but one the other, DM seems totally amoral, the 'new breed' of pol, thoroughly built for expedience, the requisite huge ego, veiled in good manners and appropriate bearing etc etc, all stagecraft.

not much to feel much either way for, low-content low fibre.
as for the city, yes, nailed.

follow the money, the city is the only game left in town, politicians won't make it as far as DM without knowing which side of the bread the butter is, (and how thick it's smeared).

the guy reeks of rattery, imo. thoroughly uninspiring, creepy crew all around, brit pols are all shady as hell, bought and sold to the bone.

nu lab is a genetic mod that has poisoned the fields of idealogy, and rendered politics the lipstick on the pig of capitalism's worst finagling excesses, britain the poster boy for shallow duplicity as the new normal, mediocrity and soullessness rule, cam-clegg another prime example.

when you look back on harold wilson as good, does political history get more depressing?

expect any lab leader to back the usual dreary suspects, nuke power and keeping the city sweet, the chief ones, yawn...

what's worse, bungling buffoons like berlu, or corporate rodents like britain has to offer?

aargh, europe is doomed, between hard right and slightly less hard right, and then there's wimpy, gimpy fake left trailing far behind...

can we please move to the next level, this one sucks d.d.

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 04:24:31 AM EST
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melo:
the guy reeks of rattery, imo. thoroughly uninspiring, creepy crew all around

You are extrapolating from your opinions of Tony Blair.  I've worked with some of DM's team on the community organising stuff and they are all good people.  DM can't be accused of not inspiring people given the reaction I saw in that huge room in London.

The issue is that politics is conducted like this - with every aspect of everything a candidate does being subject to training and rehearsal and analysis of what the voters want and how to give it to them.  It prevents people who want to be genuine from being totally genuine.  

I couldn't be a pure version of myself when running for selection or I'd never have gained any votes, but I certainly didn't compromise my values or my relationship with the voters and that made me different because people knew they were connecting with someone who was authentic. But I didn't win because I didn't quite convince them that I was a 'politician' who was ready to be thrown into the rough and tumble world of a general election.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 04:52:15 AM EST
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In Wales:
It prevents people who want to be genuine from being totally genuine.  

'it' being? a consensus that politics is inauthentic?

not much sense playing if the rules aren't clear...

i'd vote for diane abbott, but i think that she's probably a stooge too.

now that the libdems have sold out, not even that slime vestige of hope remains, no wonder there are so many young, disaffected people in britain. when the working class have only DM to be their champion, well it beggars belief how thoroughly gamed the whole shebang is.

your faith in the future is what i'd bet on, i wish there were choices that really reflected that, and instead of discounting authenticity from the get-go, actually valued it.

till then...


Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 05:16:04 AM EST
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It being the way politics is conducted by the politicians and the people.  People say they want 'real' people as their representatives who are authentic and not part of some elite but then those people are more likely to lack the smoothness and carefully rehearsed charm that gets others elected.

So people say they want one thing but keep on voting in something else.  There are exceptions obviously but in the main those who dominate in politics are of a certain mold and cracking that involves members and voters thinking more carefully about what they value in their representatives.  The 'qualities' that people vote for in selections and elections tend to favour men. Again and again and again.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 05:36:03 AM EST
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Ed Miliband gets my vote for this line if for nothing else (good article btw).....

Mash the state - Prospect Magazine « Prospect Magazine

One thing Berners-Lee did have was star power. As Shadbolt puts it: "Secretaries of state and ministers were more interested in meeting him than the other way around." At a meeting with the cabinet this even brought a rare moment of humour, Shadbolt recalls. Berners-Lee was introduced by the prime minister; Jack Straw then said: "Meeting the man who invented the web is like meeting the man who first invented the wheel." Ed Miliband shot back: "And what was the wheel man like, back when you met him too, Jack?" It took a little time to restore order amidst gales of laughter.

A warm sense of humour is a very positive quality and a quick wit implies an agile mind.

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 07:56:49 AM EST
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melo:
the guy reeks of rattery, imo. thoroughly uninspiring, creepy crew all around

You are extrapolating from your opinions of Tony Blair.  I've worked with some of DM's team on the community organising stuff and they are all good people.  DM can't be accused of not inspiring people given the reaction I saw in that huge room in London.

I note that a failure to inspire people was not the problem with Bliar, either.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 05:43:18 AM EST
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i think people are inspired, but by their own idealism, not the dear leader of the moment, no matter how dearly the media want to create cults of personality, these people are too smooth from incessant telegenenic tweaking, they don't mean anything to anyone except a hook to hang hope on (and from). intelligent, yes, but so are rats.

sorry to be so dyspeptic, but brit politics is what does it. (when italian politics doesn't, lol)

what's tragic is the breadth of native, regenerating idealism, forced into such narrow conduits. how to fix that unfortunately i have no idea, so i'll shut up.

ultimately energy issues are going to trump (and purify) politics, and it can't happen soon enough for my poor spleen...

then we'll see how far inauthenticity will be tolerated, and truth might return to politics.

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 09:33:21 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
oddly lacking substance on specifics

The first time I saw him speak in Cardiff I  had expected this since the emails and manifesto materials had all been very soundbitey and vague.  I was surprised by how much substance there was within the speech and how directly he addressed a number of key criticism of himself and the Labour party.  He answered questions very well as a general rule, until we got to mine...

I asked how as party leader he would seek to address the lack of visible senior women officials and representatives within the party and what he would do to address the huge democratic deficit that exists for disabled people.  I got a very woolly answer wrt women in the party which then had a 'and disabled people too' thrown in.

If a leader doesn't have clarity on what inequality is all about, not just in terms of income inequality (which is what he mainly talks about), then how can they seek progressive change?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 04:43:54 AM EST
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You have matured as a photographer. I am impressed.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 04:15:46 PM EST
I'm doing it for a living now so I'd hope so! Thanks.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 05:10:58 PM EST
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I am distinctly underwhelmed by the Labour leadership candidates. However I am not a Labour supporter and in my own party I always rank the person elected leader dead last, so you may take my views as being atypical.

Abbott has the advantage of not being an unindicted co-conspirator of Blair and Brown, but does not seem ready for prime time (oddly enough for Labour's most regular TV performer).

Burnham may be the most interesting of the five, but he comes over to me as a bit of a chancer. Lots of politicians fit that mould, but they rarely become leaders.

Balls seems to me to be demented. It is good for the nation that he was never made Chancellor of the Exchequer. He seems to be the least constructive of a notably unconstructive set of opposition leaders.

D. Milliband has a lot of Blairite baggage. Of all the candidates, except perhaps Balls, he is the least convincing simulation of a human being. However good he is at policy, he might be an electoral disaster.

E. Milliband is better than his brother at coming over as a person and I see it has been suggested during the campaign that he is brighter than David. He has also not gone overboard at unscrupulous opposition. On balance I think he is the best of the 5.

If I was voting I would put them as Ed M 1, Andy Burnham 2, David M 3, D. Abbott 4 and Ed Balls 5.

by Gary J on Sat Sep 4th, 2010 at 07:13:44 PM EST
Gary J:
he is the least convincing simulation of a human being.

yes. perfectly put.

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 04:32:23 AM EST
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good summary.

however, I've been increasingly impressed with Ed Balls during the campaign. when it first started I dismissed him as a Brownian cling-on. but, whilst he's been saying some rather aggressive things, this has been, imo, a way of inserting himself into what had become, in the press, a two-horse race.

Andy Burnham has entered simply to get a higher profile. He has demonstrated he has cabinet potential.

DM simply doens't convince me. I think he'll probably win and I want to believe that something better will emerge. But simply not being as bad as Gordon, nor as overtly corrupt as Tony isn't really good enough.

If I had a vote, and I don't, I'd probably vote
1 EdM
2 EdB
3 AB
4 DM
5 DA

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 08:49:16 AM EST
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I'll start at the bottom and work up, like all the best awards ;-)

I think Balls is a remarkably effective politician, but then so was Stalin.

For me he is irretrievably tarnished by having  swallowed the Washington Consensus entirely, and then - through being Brown's hatchet man - having done more to implement it than anyone else. I might even forgive that if he showed any signs of repentance, but rediscovering Keynesianism is simply not enough.

Next up is Miliband D.

He was always indistinguishable from the New Labour Project. Blair supports him, while Mandelson & Campbell were trying to foist him on us as part of a Lib/Lab coalition coup. But what did it for me, was firstly the fatuous 'Next Labour', followed by the completely vacuous 'Movement for Change', which might play well in the US, but here?

Next Dianne Abbott, with whom I have been impressed but who maybe still has yet to learn that there is such as thing as Solidarity, but it is not necessarily the State.

Andy Burnham at number 2. Particularly impressed with his open-minded approach, and in particular for having supported, among other things, Land Value Taxation. Maybe the next leader but one if the next one fucks up.

My number 1 is Ed Miliband who may have been IN New Labour but never OF it, I think.

He's bright, quick witted, flexible and less in need of a charisma transplant than his elder brother.

So I'm

1/ Ed M
2/ Andy B
3/ Dianne A
4/ David M
5/ Ed B

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:01:49 AM EST
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Yea, I can't really argue even if I put them in a different order. My only real disagreement is that imo AB has some good ideas, but that doesn't make him leadership material.

The thing about DA that is perplexing is that she's the most media-experienced of all the candidates, yet is the one who, by a country mile, is the worst of the 5 when justifying her candidacy in the media. It's almost like she stood as the "none of the above" candidate.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:26:12 AM EST
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Very few people get away from their intellectual roots.

I like to look at what a person did before they got into the public eye.  Fortunate that David Miliband worked at the Institute for Public Policy Research so it's possible to see how and what he thinks.  Possible if one has access to the materials, that is.  As I do not.

One book that might prove enlightening is Reinventing the Left:


ISBN: 0745613918

Author: Edited David Miliband
Contributors: Anthony Giddens; Perry Anderson; David Held; Anna Coote; Elizabeth Meehan; Raymond Plant; Tariq Modood; Bhikhu Parekh; Gordon Brown; Anne Phillips; Joel Rogers; Wolfgand Skreeck; Robert Kuttner; Michel Rocard; Will Hutton; Gøsta Esping-Andersen; Frances F
Price: £11.95
Publication Date: 09 January 1994

This book brings together scholars, politicians and journalists - including Anthony Giddens, Gordon Brown, Anne Phillips - from Britain and abroad to debate the key issues facing advanced industrialised societies.

and this one:

Next Left
An agenda for the 1990s
ISBN:

Author: Tessa Blackstone, James Cornford, Patricia Hewitt, David Miliband
Contributors:
Price: £3.00
Publication Date: 01 February 1992

(both available from IPPR.

might prove enlightening.

Another way to look behind the facade is: his Staff, in particular his Chief-of-Staff -- or whatever that position is called in the UK.  Also take a look at the various people reporting directly to the CoS.  Not only for what they have said but also how DM handles decision making, flow of information, and personnel.  Regarding that last, who has resigned recently?
(If anybody.)  A high level resignation by someone supporting x, y, and z indicates DM has decided against pursuing x, y, and z.  The same goes for a recent hire.  If someone is known for supporting something then DM is moving in that direction.

A pol is a team with the pol as the main striker.  Look at the defenders and goalie(s) to really get a handle on who DM is.

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Sun Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:19:11 PM EST
For brittish labor activists in particular the questions must be if he would lead Labor to the left and if he can win elections by doing so. And if he says he is left, then can he be trusted to keep saying that?

I am skeptical about David Miliband, but I note that it is with my outsiders position easy to be skeptical. I will not commit anything to brittish elections and thus really need choose. But if we want participation in politics we must be ready to choose and also commit. So while skeptical I applaud InWales for making the effort, regardless of the candidate.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 08:31:47 AM EST


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