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Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 10:00:06 AM EST

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Labor Day Weekend (note correct spelling) here in the U.S. of A. Therefore, no labor shall be committed.
by asdf on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 10:32:47 AM EST
Shouldn't the holiday be held in China instead?

never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:52:40 AM EST
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Tell that to all the women in child-birth and see the reaction you get.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:25:09 PM EST
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Good article in the Keykjavik Grapevine the other day Sitting Here in Limbo.

The political situation in Iceland, now that autumn will soon be upon us, can best be described as a sort of a limbo. We've had two very dramatic years, starting with a currency crisis and the collapse of the financial system. For a moment, in early 2009, during the so-called Pots and Pans Revolution, things seemed quite clear - the government that has presided over the fall was toppled, the governors of the Central Bank were forced to leave in disgrace, people in general were very engaged in politics, there was a sort of awakening, there was talk of a New Iceland. But now everything seems to be terribly muddled.

Spontaneous peasant uprisings tend to get muddled after the first victory due to the lack of political skills among the leaders and a inchoate political agenda other than "throw the bums out."  Getting rid of the local nobility is relatively easy; fixing the problem(s) is much harder.


If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 10:55:30 AM EST
The Tea Peasants Revolution?

They're certainly revolting.

Align culture with our nature.

by ormondotvos (ormond no spam lmi net no spam) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 02:49:48 AM EST
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A bit of music to blog along to:

and to provide more evidence of how out of touch with Popular Culture I am.  

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:04:08 AM EST
President Obama to Announce Plan to Renew and Expand America's Roads, Railways and Runways | The White House

Some of the tangible accomplishments of the President's plan over the next six years include:

  • ROADS: Rebuild 150,000 miles of roads - renewing our commitment to the backbone of our transportation system;
     
  • RAILWAYS: Construct and maintain 4,000 miles of rail - enough to go coast-to-coast;
     
  • RUNWAYS: Rehabilitate or reconstruct 150 miles of runway - while putting in place a NextGen system that will reduce travel time and delays.
Meanwhile, Europe does Austerity™

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:14:02 AM EST

David Brooks gets his facts wrong on a regular basis and not just on side matters. Often the mistake is on an issue that is the central point of his column.

He gave us a beautiful example today. He told readers that the United States had decided to go the big government route to recover from the downturn whereas Germany had gone the austerity route. Brooks tells readers:

"This divergence created a natural experiment. Who was right? The early returns suggest the Germans were."

He then points to Germany's 9.0 percent growth in the second quarter compared to the near stagnation in the U.S. economy.

Brooks is good enough to note that, "results from one quarter do not settle the stimulus/austerity debate," but let's ask if they show anything.

The chart below shows the OECD's estimates of real government expenditures for Germany and the United States since the third quarter of 2008.

Can we please stop with the "Europe does austerity" thing? With the automatic stabilisers and policy decisions of the past 2 years, there has been a decent amount of stimulus in Europe. Maybe not enough, and they're lowing down too early, but we have to remember that it's a slow down from a trend which in Europe naturally goes more easily toward spending than in the US.

Wind power

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:22:43 AM EST
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Yeah, okay, nothing to see here move along. Europe can do no wrong.

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:50:41 AM EST
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[Europe.Is.Doomed™ Alert]

Wind power
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:08:25 PM EST
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can anyone help me with a computer question, please?

a friend booted up my mac from a ubuntu cd to show me around the system, and i told it to from mac system prefs, boot drive.

now when i boot up without the cd, it gives me some command line telling me to put in the cd and press any key, instead of reverting to the mac OS, as my friend assures me happens in windows. he's never done this on a mac before.

is there some key combo i can hold down to get it to default, as i checked the menus of ubuntu and found nothing i can discern as useful to changing boot prefs.

help!

ps ubuntu looks really easy on the eye, if i could get itunes d/loading podcasts automatically, and a good mail grabber, i might switch... right now i want to work on a tune in digital performer/mac so...

any tips for good audio/midi multitrack software for ubuntu/linux?

tia

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:49:35 PM EST
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try restart and hold the shift key pressed. that might give you an option of choice (Depending how old you mac is.
by PeWi on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 02:54:52 PM EST
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ah sorry that is safe more:

Restart your Mac while holding the Option key on your keyboard until boot options are displayed.

by PeWi on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 02:57:00 PM EST
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Interestingly on this site:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343
the command option is not listed, but you can try

press holding X during startup, as it apparently
"Force Mac OS X startup (if non-Mac OS X startup volumes are present)"

by PeWi on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 06:09:54 PM EST
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Looks like it has installed a boot loader.

Does anything here help?

iTunes is Mac/Win only. The only to run it under U would be inside an emulator.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 02:57:49 PM EST
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so there's no way to use an iphone with linux? or only if jailbroken?

thanks for the tips, guys. we resolved it eventually by leaning on the eject button while rebooting. whew.

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 06:44:53 PM EST
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I don't know about iPhones and Linux.

Windows has a default driver, which means you can copy photos from the iPhone without using iTunes/iPhoto.

But you certainly can't access the rest of the file system without jailbreaking the phone. There used to be apps that allowed this, but Apple killed them.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 07:03:51 PM EST
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Well no guarantees on Linux -iPhones but apparently this is the way to do it

Sync Your iPhone Wirelessly in Linux

Apple may open up its iPhone and iPod touch devices to third-party apps next month, but the chances that Linux users will get invited to the party are slim at best. That hasn't stopped some intrepid hackers from coming up with a better music-syncing solution than the one Mac and Windows users have--a two-way wireless transfer, from almost any music organizing app you like, no wait for iTunes or USB cable required. Linux users, let's take a look at how to set up your iPhone or iPod touch for any-time wireless access after the jump


never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 10:54:40 AM EST
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Eat the poor - Germany's austerity package | Social Europe Journal

Today the German government passed key measures in its austerity package first announced back in June. The stated aim is to ensure compliance with the bizarre new constitutional clause - the so-called debt-brake - requiring a balanced (structural) budget by 2016 at the latest and to get below the Maastricht 3% deficit limit by 2013. It is a sad day for the already disadvantaged in Germany and also for Europe.

The measures (here in English, hier auf deutsch) will bring about cuts totaling EUR80 billion in 2011 to 2014, of which 11bn take effect next year.  That is wrong in cyclical terms. Germany may have had a spectacularly good second quarter, but the growth outlook will certainly deteriorate and is highly uncertain going forward. Even in purely national terms discretionary tightening starting in just a few months time of around 1/2% of GDP is the wrong policy.

The measures are disproportionately targetted at the weakest in society, notably recipients of social benefit (Hartz IV), who bear almost half the burden in the first year (4.3 bn). The meanness of spirit is exemplified by the abolition of an allowance paid for two years to unemployed persons  after the initial benefit period (at a relatively high replacement rate) runs out: this will save just 200m (that's about 0.008% of GDP!) a year, but will mean considerable additional hardship for the (approx. 100,000) people affected; these are workers made redundant 1-2 years ago, i.e. the most obviously blameless victims of the crisis. Not only do such policy choices offend normal ideas of social justice, they will maximise the negative demand effects.



By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:52:27 AM EST
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Obama can propose all he wants, with the assurance that the Senate will either stonewall it or pare it down to practically nothing. A meaningless poltical stunt for election year ... exactly what I'd expect.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:32:27 PM EST
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I have a new laptop. Can anyone point me to the latest version of Trib ext.?  Thanks;

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:28:48 AM EST
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A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:49:36 AM EST
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Thanks much ;)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:10:41 PM EST
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A big shop in preparation for seeing friends on their boat next week. they need supplies.

so a lifetimes supply (or it felt like it anyway) of various household items to see them through the winter.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:35:34 PM EST
... of various household items ...

Is that what the kids are calling beer these days? I'm so far behind on the lingo.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:38:38 PM EST
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I did buy some beer, about 12 bottles but he's borderline diabetic so his consumption is allegedly limited these days. He used to drink terrifying quantities; I've seen him drink 3 litres of wine in an afternoon and was worried about his longevity.

I am reassured he's nothing like that anymore, but we'll see.

No it was tinned meat, mayonnaise, salad cream. British sundries you can't get where they are.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:48:39 PM EST
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What is "tinned meat"? I buy tuna in cans, sardines in cans, but "tinned meat"?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:01:10 PM EST
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meat in cans, specifically a chilli con carne they're fond of.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:08:09 PM EST
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Wot, no tea?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:00:19 PM EST
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They didn't ask for any.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:17:03 PM EST
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The set-up: Megan, my Chem tutee from 4 years ago, is now officially an RN, capable of finally affording her own place (goodbye housemates), and I'm on the hook for a toaster oven as a graduation gift. Any suggestions of brand/style? Best places to get good reviews?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:10:39 PM EST
What's a toaster oven?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:24:10 PM EST
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Absolutely essential.

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:28:38 PM EST
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One of these:

A small electric heated oven, usually located on a counter-top, used to for small scale baking/warming.


If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:29:17 PM EST
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Oooh.  We have microwave/grill combis here but I haven't seen a toaster oven before. Or is it the same thing?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:58:50 PM EST
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These are non-microwave.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 02:10:07 PM EST
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Well how is one supposed to cook baked beans then?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:29:58 PM EST
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Microwave oven ... separate beast.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:37:02 PM EST
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Toast 'em one by one.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:37:23 PM EST
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Makes sense.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:53:18 PM EST
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Fun too.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 04:03:34 PM EST
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Here's a page of them, with a dining room set(?).

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_7?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=toaster+oven&am p;sprefix=toaster

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:32:32 PM EST
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"Toaster oven" was also a tech slang term for the device used to heat small scale runs of integrated circuits to remove moisture, fix the components, & etc.

I would definitely get a commercial model of one of these!

:-)

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:36:43 PM EST
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Our preference is always a commercial built anything for the kitchen.  They will run more expensive, in the short term, and more than pay for themselves over the long term.

Be wary of "commercial grade" equipment.  They are, slightly, better than the standard consumer shoddy but not so much better for the price.  IMO.  YMMV.

If you have the time you can call through the restaurant supply companies in your area and see what they got.  Sometimes you can get a pretty good deal on refurbished second-hand, scratch-and-dent, or models going out of production -- make sure the latter isn't because they are a POS!  

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.

by ATinNM on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:27:08 PM EST
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I'm glad I didn't, and just got the cheapest I could find. The result of connecting a U.S. toaster oven directly to European current would have been the same (given the huge variety of types of sockets and devices I have here, it's a bit surprising that I've only done that once).
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:54:20 PM EST
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You can buy toaster ovens in the UK. They're not very popular - possibly because if you already have a toaster and a combi microwave you have no use for one.

Unless you're having an exciting toast party. Or such.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:01:58 PM EST
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Now I know just how to celebrate my 32nd birthday when it comes along. How exciting!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:28:52 PM EST
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No! My apartment has 4 types of wall sockets (the 2 prong thin Italian ones for lower power, the two prong wider Italian ones for regular devices, the 3-in-a-row Italian ones with earth and the European standard). The appliances include 240V ones will all these types of plugs, and appliances from the U.S which can run on 240V but have U.S. plugs.

Then there are the 120 V ones, with U.S. plugs, mostly run through a 200W transformer with U.S input and output plugs. Finally, there's the espresso machine, Italian-made but bought in Zabars, with it's own 1.500 W transformer with a European plug.

The last thing I'm going to do is get something with a British plug...

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 04:58:19 PM EST
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oh, santo gesu, it is mindboggling how many plugs there are in italy, and how many adaptors you have to bring along to gigs to be sure you can hook up ok.

totally maddening, irrational, mickey mouse, like so much else in this topsy turvy country.

then when you pull one out of the wall, the whole fixture comes out with it, lol.

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 06:53:02 PM EST
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hen when you pull one out of the wall, the whole fixture comes out with it, lol.

I thought that was just my apartment...

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 03:09:46 AM EST
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from my pre-vegan days, i remember they make the best cheese on toast, welsh rarebit with a smear of marmite on top, yes.

there were those double grills too that made wicked toasted cheese sarnies.

those toaster overs i saw more in the states, in the pre microwave days. they were the bees' knees for bedsit type situations, student digs etc.

Hopeful pessimist, hopeless optimist, it's a fine line

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 06:48:46 PM EST
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Hey, congratulations to Megan!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:02:09 PM EST
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Here's an excerpt from her email to me today:

and you keep searching for my fucking toaster..asshole... :)

I swear, I get no respect.


I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:08:10 PM EST
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Well, you tutored her, didn't you?

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:31:35 PM EST
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Ah, hell, I'll pitch in my tuppence:

Get a small CONVECTION toaster oven!

The circulation of the air makes for wonderful dry roasted meats, chicken, fish, etc. Instead of scorched outside, cold inside from radiation-only, or irregularly scorched and frozen microwave results.

And they're cheap. Get one with a non-electronic timer that goes clickety click.

Align culture with our nature.

by ormondotvos (ormond no spam lmi net no spam) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 02:59:39 AM EST
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Ian Tomlinson coroner asks for judge to preside over inquest in his place | UK news | The Guardian

The coroner presiding over the inquest into the death of Ian Tomlinson has officially requested that a senior judicial figure take over the case on the eve of formal proceedings.

City of London coroner Paul Matthews will tomorrow begin a pre-inquest review - a proceeding that will set out the scope of the judicial investigation into Tomlinson's death.

However the Guardian understands that Matthews, who controversially appointed pathologist Dr Freddy Patel to conduct the first postmortem into the newspaper vendor's death, has written to ministers raising doubts about his own lack of expertise in criminal cases.

The justice secretary, Ken Clarke, is considering the request, which has the support of Tomlinson's family.



never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 01:47:58 PM EST
3 September 2010
Radical Islam is world's greatest threat - Tony Blair

Asked about the argument that Chechens, Kashmiris, Palestinians, Iraqis and Afghans were resisting foreign occupation, he said Western policies were designed to confront radical Islamists because they were "regressive, wicked and backward-looking".

The aim of al-Qaeda in Iraq was "not to get American troops out of Baghdad [but] to destabilise a government the people of Iraq have voted for", he told the BBC's Owen Bennett Jones in a World Service interview.

The former British leader - who now acts as the Middle East envoy for the international Quartet - said that Iran was one of the biggest state sponsors of radical Islam, and it was necessary to prevent it by any means from developing a nuclear weapon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11182225

Pefect guy for Middle East envoy for whatever they're calling permanent occupation these days.

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 02:10:46 PM EST
And such a not-perfect guy for EU Council president, which is why I'm glad we opposed him.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:04:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Faisal Islam (faisalislam) on Twitter
Boris Johnson on the deficit is extraordinary --- Ed Balls makes 'compelling argument' says BoJo http://bit.ly/b3eKUd


never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 02:43:46 PM EST
I think this is more about his dislike of George Osborne than it is about admiration for Balls' arguments

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 02:57:51 PM EST
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That line is full of pitfalls that you avoid with elegance.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:05:53 PM EST
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BBC - Democracy Live - Urgent question

The Metropolitan Police and not the government should decide whether to re-open the investigation into the News of the World newspaper phone-hacking allegations, Home Secretary Theresa May has said.

Answering an urgent question on 6 September 2010 on fresh claims that No 10 aide Andy Coulson was complicit in phone-tapping while editor of the newspaper, Ms May told the House it was "right" for the police to say they would examine any new evidence in the case.

Fresh allegations made in the New York Times newspaper have renewed attention on the original investigation, which led to the paper's royal editor Clive Goodman being jailed in 2007; private investigator Glenn Mulcaire was also imprisoned.



never let desperation get in the way of judgement.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:26:44 PM EST
Is this bit of Brit animation about greed? i'm not quite sure what to make of this brilliance.



Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:33:08 PM EST
Giants/Dbacks on in less that 30 minutes. Giants only one game behind the Pads. Pads are pooping out.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:40:59 PM EST
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Yes, i'll watch tonight. Not often we get games that aren't live at 4AM. Pads are first 1st place team to lose 10 inaro since 1932 Pittsburgh. Still, it's up to the Jints to play some ball.

So is this greed?

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:50:35 PM EST
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I don't know what the hell it is. And what's up with all the words? Teaching 1st graders?

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 03:54:20 PM EST
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From of my film gurus in Sanfrandisco:

It's a cartoon using imagery from or inspired by British children's elementary-school reading primers to tell a cautionary tale about the consequences of greed.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 04:00:15 PM EST
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No idea what it means, sorry. You need the more cinematic types to chime in.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Sep 6th, 2010 at 04:06:36 PM EST
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Was rereading my Microbiology text ... Sac State fires up today.

Anyway, I think that the US in general, and I hope California, is pursuing a successful path followed by some bacteria who find themselves in trouble because their environmental conditions change: loss of food, accumulation of wastes, drying, etc.  The bacterium sequesters vital resources within an endospore which is very hearty (endospores are one of the problems in the canning industry), the rest of the bacterium dies away, and the endospore sprouts once the environment improves. The wealthy are currently following this model and I hope the state of CA will also. Europe Is Doomed?  Hell, the US really is.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 07:56:29 AM EST
Tinkerbell is on life support and you're not clapping.

If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough.
by ATinNM on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 01:17:48 PM EST
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Sorry Tink. I've put in 35 years (well over half my lifetime) trying to make a "better world" and, quite honestly, I have failed miserably! If I can help save California before I croak, I'll consider it a job well done.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 03:16:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Great stuff:

Robert Sheer rips Obama a new one, and more.

Must see TV!

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 08:48:59 AM EST
let us know when it's on youtube

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 09:30:01 AM EST
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Not sure they do YouTube. It usually shows up on the DemocracyNow.org site by now but I don't know what's up.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Sep 7th, 2010 at 09:50:06 AM EST
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