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Fully Renewable Grid

by gmoke Mon Jun 20th, 2011 at 11:18:08 PM EST

A couple of years ago, Dr William Moomaw of Tufts mentioned a regional scale experiment with an all-renewable grid in Germany. I've been curious about that project since then. Today, I did a little googling and found a seven-minute youtube called "Fully renewable: biogas + wind + solar"

Dr. Jürgen Schmid at the University of Kassel, Department of Efficient Energy Conversion is the spokesperson from this December 2007 video. The system described is wind with pumped hydro storage and grid scale solar with methane from biomass (corn biofuels). When the sun isn't out in the South, the wind may be blowing in the North. When there's too much wind, it can be used to pump water into reservoirs that will provide hydroelectricity days or weeks later. When the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing, biomass can be burned or converted to methane. They say Germany can have a 100% renewable grid by 2050. Dr Schmid, along with John Sievers, Stefan Faulstich, Mathias Puchta, Ingo Stadler, is the co-author of Long-term perspectives for balancing fluctuating renewable energy sources (pdf alert), which details the steps necessary to get to a fully renewable grid.


If it can work in Germany, which has, on average, about as much sunlight as Seattle, it can work in the USA too. Maybe even in a city like New York.

The NYC Solar Map, a collaboration between New York City, the City University of New York, and the Department of Energy, shows 66.4 percent of the city's buildings have roof space suitable for solar panels and could generate up to 5,847 megawatts of energy, 14% of the city's total annual use (taking weather into account).

The data for the map was collected using a Lidar-equipped plane recorded the shape, angle, and size of the city rooftops and the shading provided from trees and structures around them.

New Yorkers can use the map to discover the solar power potential of their own roof, the associated costs, rebates, and various financial incentives by entering their address.

Today in NYC, about 400 solar installations produce 6.5 megawatts, and existing solar power installations nationwide produce about 2,300 megawatts. If the NYC data is replicable in other cities, we are currently using a little more than a tenth of what we could get from sunlight alone. And that's just counting electricity.

hat tip Treehugger article

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by rootless2 on Tue Jun 21st, 2011 at 10:24:47 AM EST
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I edited some lazy linking and added missing paragraph breaks. I also note that your text confuses power [instantaneous generation], generating capacity [maximum power] (both measured in megawatts) and energy (measured in kilowatt-hours); however, given that I haven't found the source for your NYC numbers, I haven't corrected those points.

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by DoDo on Wed Jun 22nd, 2011 at 03:48:57 AM EST
Ah, I see your source (and the origin of the energy-power confusions) is the Trehugger article. That one however is sourced to the article Map Shows New York City Rooftops' Potential for Solar Power in the New York Times, which didn't confuse the terms:

Map Shows New York City Rooftops' Potential for Solar Power - NYTimes.com

Over all, the images show that 66.4 percent of the city's buildings have roof space suitable for solar panels, said the CUNY team, which developed the map in partnership with the city and the federal Department of Energy. The rooftops could generate up to 5,847 megawatts from hundreds of thousands of buildings, the team said, compared with the negligible 6.5 megawatts yielded now from about 400 installations.

At those output levels, the panels could meet 49.7 percent of the current estimated daytime peak demand and about 14 percent of the city's total annual electricity use, the officials said. The figures consider typical weather conditions.

...Nationwide, the installed solar capacity is just 2,300 megawatts, less than half the rooftop potential of New York City.



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by DoDo on Wed Jun 22nd, 2011 at 03:52:56 AM EST
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I've decided that including the URL is more useful than a "blind" link. You can call it lazy if you like. I think it is more honest and a clearer reference.

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by gmoke on Wed Jun 22nd, 2011 at 05:27:11 PM EST
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The reason for requesting embedded links is that long URLs can blow the margins wide on some users' displays.

After all, nothing prevents you from giving full and proper attribution in the text - as honest and clear a reference as you think necessary.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jun 23rd, 2011 at 01:51:32 AM EST
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Sorry I forgot to link the relevant part of the New User Guide.

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by DoDo on Thu Jun 23rd, 2011 at 04:58:53 AM EST
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